RallerenP (EUW)
: The summoners code isn't a rulebook. It's a guide on how to be a friendly player, but it is not an enforcable set of rules. Otherwise people would be obligated to build friendships with other summoners, or be obligated to help players get better at the game. Neither of these things are enforced rules, but is a social codes. Ways to enhance the experience for you and others around you. Which is why it's called the summoners code and not the summoners rules. --- I agree that Nubrac deserves a punishment, but you can't make breaking the summoners code the reason for it.
Well, technically it isn’t a rule book, but it has been used like one for a very long time, to then point that a ban/chat restriction message openly tells you that you broke the Summoner’s code and that your punishment comes from that.
Spekkıo (NA)
: I don't see how people can justify Nubrac being banned. Everything I see about hating on Nubrac is literally just people asserting things like "He only does it to streamers to amp up his viewership." Alright, show me some evidence to support this. Stop throwing out claims that you can't back up because you 'feel' like it's true because someone said it was or because you're bias towards one side of the equation. Nubrac played something off-meta. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. What is important here is intent. Did he play the game? Did he try to win? Did he try to contribute? Etc... It's not "Did he play well? Did he win? Did he do better than if he had played the meta? Did he mute chat cause he knows he's trolling or because he doesn't want to hear everyone flaming him for trying something new?" etc... If he played the game and if he tried to win and if he did try to contribute, then he shouldn't be banned. It's not your place to determine otherwise. It's not your place to slander him because you don't like him or you think he looks ugly or because he's fat, etc... You're supposed to get at the meat of the situation and be objective. Nightblue flamed him on stream, Nightblue talked shit in chat, Nightblue AFK'd in the game. Did Nubrac flame him back? Did Nubrac talk shit in chat? Did Nubrac AFK? No. NB3 deserved to be banned. Nubrac does not. I wouldn't even want Nightblue playing the game after seeing how much of a virtue-signalling piece of shit he is. Do you honestly think Nightblue brings anything to your game, Riot? Think about that for two seconds. Think about what his playerbase is comprised of.... Mainly people who already play League. He's benefiting off your game, not the other way around. If Nightblue disappeared off Twitch/Youtube/etc... tomorrow, he'd be filled by someone else that the community chooses to step into those shoes. It's not like those people are going to quit playing League because some asshole got what he deserved. I'm not advocating for his removal just explaining that you shouldn't be actively defending him when he's in the wrong. Oh and no, people are not OBLIGATED to tell someone they're doing something off-meta. That's a courtesy, it's not mandatory. You might not like someone trying something new and weird but that doesn't mean they should be punished for NOT breaking any rules just because you personally feel annoyed by it. That's not how it works nor should it.
> [{quoted}](name=Spekkıo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WuJEL0RA,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-06-15T19:58:56.321+0000) > > I don't see how people can justify Nubrac being banned. > > Everything I see about hating on Nubrac is literally just people asserting things like "He only does it to streamers to amp up his viewership." > > Alright, show me some evidence to support this. > > Stop throwing out claims that you can't back up because you 'feel' like it's true because someone said it was or because you're bias towards one side of the equation. > > Nubrac played something off-meta. > > It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not. What is important here is intent. > > Did he play the game? Did he try to win? Did he try to contribute? Etc... > > It's not "Did he play well? Did he win? Did he do better than if he had played the meta? Did he mute chat cause he knows he's trolling or because he doesn't want to hear everyone flaming him for trying something new?" etc... > > If he played the game and if he tried to win and if he did try to contribute, then he shouldn't be banned. It's not your place to determine otherwise. It's not your place to slander him because you don't like him or you think he looks ugly or because he's fat, etc... > > You're supposed to get at the meat of the situation and be objective. > > Nightblue flamed him on stream, Nightblue talked shit in chat, Nightblue AFK'd in the game. > > Did Nubrac flame him back? Did Nubrac talk shit in chat? Did Nubrac AFK? No. > > NB3 deserved to be banned. > Nubrac does not. > > I wouldn't even want Nightblue playing the game after seeing how much of a virtue-signalling piece of shit he is. Do you honestly think Nightblue brings anything to your game, Riot? > > Think about that for two seconds. Think about what his playerbase is comprised of.... Mainly people who already play League. He's benefiting off your game, not the other way around. > > If Nightblue disappeared off Twitch/Youtube/etc... tomorrow, he'd be filled by someone else that the community chooses to step into those shoes. It's not like those people are going to quit playing League because some asshole got what he deserved. I'm not advocating for his removal just explaining that you shouldn't be actively defending him when he's in the wrong. > > Oh and no, people are not OBLIGATED to tell someone they're doing something off-meta. That's a courtesy, it's not mandatory. You might not like someone trying something new and weird but that doesn't mean they should be punished for NOT breaking any rules just because you personally feel annoyed by it. That's not how it works nor should it. Unfortunately it doesn’t work that way. After the Singed support case Riot explicitly said that you can only play off-meta as long as your team agrees with it. If you get multiple reports every game it means that 4 people on your team aren’t having fun because of your off meta strategy. Rightfully so I must say.
: I'm with banning the guy He deserved a ban imo and I won't change that opinion He made his adc lane 1v2 even if it worked , that's not off meta , that's trolling Tho , NB3 should have got banned as well , which is why it isn't fair
> [{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WuJEL0RA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T11:13:45.467+0000) > > I'm with banning the guy > He deserved a ban imo and I won't change that opinion > He made his adc lane 1v2 > even if it worked , that's not off meta , that's trolling > > Tho , NB3 should have got banned as well , which is why it isn't fair Honestly, I myself think that Nubrac is at fault because he doesn’t tell anything in pre-game lobby, making his team play in a way they might find unfun. But NB3? He went afk and flamed the guy multiple times. There’s also evidence that he holds pre game lobbies hostage if he doesn’t get jungle. He deserves a ban as well.
Rioter Comments
: Nightblue gets a player Falsely banned.
Reddit “mods” took the thread down. You can easily find a video of this bullshit on YouTube though.
: Morde sitting at 70% ban rate, 13% pick rate, and 56% WR even with 0 expereince on him
If he ults a melee 90% of the time that guy isn’t coming back alive. I think he’s fairly strong but not overbearing. I tried him yesterday and ulting a ranged champion mid to lategame was a suicide (if you ever reach them). It’s just that he’s very reliable and Darius-level hard. Not saying he doesn’t need a nerf, but he’s much easier than champions like Zoe at release because she was slightly harder to pull off. Personally I can see them nerfing the ult cooldown. It’s fairly low for what it does imo.
Rioter Comments
: Some depressing stats about Malphite
He’s getting some changes on PBE. Although it’s not a rework, it’s definitely something.
: Riot intentionally gives lower gains/higher losses in diamond.
Have you posted it on Reddit? I think it would be cool to have it there and I'm sure that the chances of getting an official reply would be much higher.
YDN Mala (EUW)
: Something is wrong here in D4
It has always been like this. I remember getting to D5 in previous seasons with a positive winrate and gaining 16LP for my first win in Diamond whereas I usually got at least 20 in Plat 1. Low Diamond MMR/LP gains have always been fucked up for some reason. Riot promised to address this 3 years ago but there has yet to be an improvement.
: https://champion.gg/champion/Riven/Top 53%? Would love to know where you are getting your stats. She has a 51.39% win rate, which actually is fairly balanced. Started the last patch with a 0% win rate, and only has a 49% win rate in games which last 20 minutes or less. Keep spreading more false information to justify your cognitive bias thinking. Also, saw someone say that she has a 15% play rate, no she does not. lol what the fuck even. It's pretty obvious why Riot doesn't listen to these boards, you guys are complete idiots.
Here are my serious sources unlike champion.gg: https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/riven/diamond https://www.op.gg/champion/riven/statistics/top But I guess we are the biased people, not the Riven main spreading false information.
: Unpopular opinion: {{champion:92}} is problematic in North American play not because she is as intensely broken as people believe, but because she is extremely good at punishing our continental sins - which often have to do with prioritizing "fun" champion fights over good fundamentals. If you push behind your wave, play patiently, are willing to take force-outs and get a CS advantage and not chase her, she becomes very manageable. If you play League like it's Street Fighter, though, she's going to stomp your face in and become a 1v5 horror. For the record, I'm very much in support of nerfs for her - particularly her low-cooldown, manaless, highly spammable shield. I would say that she needs nerfs both to her shield, and to her HP/level gains or other level-based tankiness, in order to prevent how much of a runaway, unkillable snowball she can be when, say, your jungler decides he's a legend in his own mind and eats it as she survives with 50 HP under her tower, then heads back to get an early {{item:3044}} so she can beat your head in with it. But, still, she's not unbeatable. {{champion:6}} in particular tends to have a very easy time forcing her out and denying her combos, but any ranged toplaner and most toplane juggernauts ought to give her a fair amount of trouble when played properly.
Sorry, but that’s not how it works. Riven has a even higher win rate in [Korea](https://www.op.gg/champion/riven/statistics/top), being the first toplaner win and pick rate wise. So no, the whole “western phenomenon” thing doesn’t add up.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tPOwEUh0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-23T09:44:36.302+0000) > > Considering her 15% playrate, I doubt she’s even that hard to succeed with right now. Why not play her then and confirm that then, or is this going to be one of those times where there is some excuse on why you won't try her? Or my other favorite excuse "on my diamond smurf, I have a 100% win rate over 100 games with her." times instead. Or is this a "I don't enjoy her playstyle, so I don't want to touch her." excuses instead?
Because I don’t want to first time a champ in ranked for no reason. But if I had time I’d indeed pick her up and spam her to diamond for the freest elo of my life. It’s not an excuse, people with 3 working fingers can spam her after 5 normals and still win because she’s so absurdly OP and forgiving that everybody and their mothers can probably pick her up in no time. I’ll check my alt account to see if I have enough BE to buy her and play her.
: She is picked in pro play.
Not enough to warrant a nerf, according to Riot at least.
wolvius (EUW)
: Don't worry tahm is getting nerfs at 42% winrate support, surely that means vayne and riven are next up right???
Because pro play balance > SoloQ balance. Who cares about the majority of the playerbase when Riven isn’t picked at all in pro play eks de.
Jamaree (NA)
: If everyone spammed Riven, her winrate would plummet, she isn't as easy as people make her out to be. Edit: I want to point out that out of the 8 people who have responded to me, 7 have never played Riven in a ranked setting and the other one doesn’t even have a good kda with them and out of the multiple people who downvoted me, they are probably the same as well. I stick to what I say, I think she needs a tiny nerf yes, but she isn’t as easy as any of you think she is and if you guys actually played her, you would see that, but you know how the forums work, got to circlejerk, it can’t be that you are bad or your champion gets countered by them, nope, self improvement fuck that.
Considering her 15% playrate, I doubt she’s even that hard to succeed with right now.
Rioter Comments
Infernape (EUW)
: LeBlanc's passive grew out of control
Classic misdirection.
: Everyone is complaining about the state of the game, why don't we complain about the client instead?
The client is terribly optimized, that’s no news. I mean, the client itself uses more resources than the actual game, and that’s ridiculous for one of the biggest games out there. Low specs mode barely works (actually I don’t see many performance differences between low specs and normal mode) and the client takes forever to load if you check the “close client during the game” option. Fun fact: the open alpha/beta that was available before the official release ran way better than the current version.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 13
Hey Meddler, any context on the LeBlanc nerf? I, and many others LB players feel like that’s the wrong way to hit LB’s pro play power.
: That was the past, but Morganas playstyle is not healthy for mid lane, since it revolves completely around just perma pushing the wave with W while avoiding any kind of player interaction with Q and E. Which is exactly the opposite of what Riots design philosophy has become over time. They want **more** player interaction, not less. Morgana simply denies every engage on her as long as she isn't sure that she can easily kill you and pushes endlessly, forcing you to play farm simulator under your tower if your wave clear doesn't match hers.
Then turn Anivia and Viktor into supports, all they do is clear waves most of the time anyway. /s
Rioter Comments
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: IMHO they didn't lie. They said that ppl aren't as frustrated with her in the East, because she isn't banned as much, they didn't say she wasn't just as strong there.
The issue with that statement is that Riot has never balanced champions based on how frustrating they are. They can’t say “Riven is strong but not frustrating for eastern players so we won’t nerf her” because it makes 0 sense and goes against their very balance philosophy.
: Maybe in other regions people understand that {{item:3161}} and {{item:3812}} are a little too good on her.
Watch Riot proceed to nerf both those items while leaving Riven the way she is because “it’s conqueror and items!!!”. The Riot special: nerf everything an overpowered champion uses, then nerf the champion eventually, while leaving 10 other champions to be trash tier.
: Riot Repertoir lies about how broken Riven is.
It’s also interesting to see how they’re nerfing champions that are okay/average in SoloQ (LB, Zoe and Jayce for instance, all of them have sub-50% WR) while leaving Riven and Vayne untouched. Both of them are incredibly broken right now but I guess pro play > SoloQ, as always.
VanaQuish (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vh7kQK0F,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-07T16:26:25.483+0000) > > "yasuo shouldn't have an ability that negates ultimates" > > "an item that negates ultimates should be buffed more" This compare sucks tbh. Yasuo is free to move around and act. Zhonyas is a stasis. You cant move or act at all. You cant even be targeted by allies.
Not sure why you were downvoted. Zhonya’s is a self applied stasis that has a TWO MINUTES cooldown. Windwall is just some AoE basic ability with an ultimate’s power that barely has a cooldown considering how impactful it is.
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=dEJlkaX9,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-03-04T17:10:50.264+0000) > > Eh, it depends. Sometimes I need to manually input my login informations, sometimes I don't. Are you logging in on mobile or pc? I've had to login again on mobile even if I'm logged in on pc.
I’ve been logged in on both for ages, but now I need to log in every time on PC and on mobile too.
Jikker (NA)
: When you click the login button does it automatically log you in then or do you need to manually input your login information?
Eh, it depends. Sometimes I need to manually input my login informations, sometimes I don't.
: Try clicking on "Cookie preferences" in the bottom left an enable functional cookies.
Never disabled them in the first place, they’re still enabled but the boards won’t allow me to automatically log in. I don’t know why.
: I like how you casually add "And fan service" though I guess League does have fan service too {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} LOL
Well, FFXIV is full of FF fan service. If you’re a fan, you’ll have a lot of fun. For instance, I loved the Return to Ivalice event.
Rioter Comments
: No one cares but i'm not having fun playing this shit
Problems with League aside, try FFXIV if you’re a fan of the series. Very good story, lots of people and fan service.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KsfzIaMx,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-01-16T02:22:49.422+0000) > > He is supposed to counter AP champs why exactly? > > Oh right, it’s because of the interactive “you take 15% less magic damage because yes” passive. > > Playing any AP champion not named Cassiopeia or Galii against current Kassadin is a suicide. No way to exploit his “””weak””” early game, not with all the sustain he’s got. Because that's his niece?
I didn’t know Kaisa had a cousin.
NarbYou (NA)
: Help me, cannot play game after 27 minute mark :(
It’s their shitty anti-cheat. It triggers for no reason apparently, been having it for days and I’ve quit playing until they fix it. I’ve lost enough LPs because of that. Let’s see if it’s on Riot’s priority list or (probably) not.
: He is supposed to counter ap champs. AD champs will completely destroy him after that nerf.
He is supposed to counter AP champs why exactly? Oh right, it’s because of the interactive “you take 15% less magic damage because yes” passive. Playing any AP champion not named Cassiopeia or Galii against current Kassadin is a suicide. No way to exploit his “””weak””” early game, not with all the sustain he’s got.
: Is anyone else getting anti-hack crashes today? This is my 3rd one.
Same for me, and I can’t seem to fix it. I’ve lost my last 3 games (on another account) because the game started giving me critical errors after 25/30 minutes.
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=goNhoYNq,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-11T07:44:50.648+0000) > > While I somehow agree that players shouldn’t be punished for a company’s mistake, I can’t accept that some people got to buy 200 capsules for 200 BE. That’s literally thousand of dollars of content FOR FREE, that’s a slap in the face to everyone that has ever bought RP. > > We’re talking about 100+ skins and something like 30/40 gemstones, not 5 skin shards. i mean some people got to go to college for free others had to pay through the nose
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=goNhoYNq,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-11T08:52:35.983+0000) > > i mean some people got to go to college for free > > others had to pay through the nose That’s a whole different story though. People who don’t pay for it either would have trouble paying for it in the first place, or are good enough to get a scholarship. That’s how it works where I live at least.
CLG ear (NA)
: why would they punish players for their mistake? they saw the price of something and bought it. It's not their fault that riot priced them for way lower than they should have been.
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=goNhoYNq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-11T06:14:00.541+0000) > > why would they punish players for their mistake? > > they saw the price of something and bought it. It's not their fault that riot priced them for way lower than they should have been. While I somehow agree that players shouldn’t be punished for a company’s mistake, I can’t accept that some people got to buy 200 capsules for 200 BE. That’s literally thousand of dollars of content FOR FREE, that’s a slap in the face to everyone that has ever bought RP. We’re talking about 100+ skins and something like 30/40 gemstones, not 5 skin shards.
KnifeCat (OCE)
: Sylas might be the biggest balance nightmare in the history of League
“Sylas might be the biggest balance nightmare in the history of League” CertainlyT: “hold my beer”.
wolf jade (EUNE)
: play rate - 4.73% (top) play rate - 4.54% (ig) jax is in 9% of the games. are you for real telling me that youre gonna take something like 73M players on 3 profiles? Nice
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wkzsJNUr,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-04T23:48:35.142+0000) > > What? I mean, I started playing late S3 so if it was a simple burnout I’d be out by now, don’t you think? Nope. I started in beta and I am still there (even if I am enjoying the game MUCH less than in "my prime time"...when LoL was new to me...and TOTAL SHIT compared to now, with 10 times more bugs, technical problems, HUGE balance issues, NOTHING against flamers and so forth), LoL is SO good that going "full burnout" take a LOT, and your timing is right about average. Oh, btw: this happens to EVERY SINGLE MMO EVER, with LEGIONS of veteran players saying that the game turned to shit, that the "true" game was X years ago (were, statistically, taking in consideration how MMO evolve, was like TEN TIME WORSE) and so on. Edit: while at it. Is not HUMANLY POSSIBLE to not start to feel more and more burnout about a game you played a lot for years, NOT POSSIBLE. Not for me, not for you, not for ANYONE playing LoL for that much (and so much).
You’re so entitled you think you can tell me why I complain about the game, but in reality I bet you didn’t even read the full post (and the response above is a clear example of that). League evolved and that’s for sure, but in my mind the game was supposed to be something completely different than the thing it’s being turned into. LoL is not “so good” that burning out takes forever, it’s that the last 2 season massively decreased the time it takes for some people to get burned out playing League. Go browse twitch and tell me how many streamers seem to have fun with the game like they used to. They probably play for a living, not because they still enjoy the game like they did in previous seasons.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wkzsJNUr,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-04T23:39:32.886+0000) > Tl;dr: usual thing, League hasn’t been fun for quite some time and I don’t think it will ever be again, simply because... ...you played the fuck out of it and is not as "fresh" anymore. But your subconscious can't accept this simple fact and you rather blame the state of the game, overglorifying the "good old days" (and they weren't that good...at all; played since beta and seen it all).
What? I mean, I started playing late S3 so if it was a simple burnout I’d be out by now, don’t you think?
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Fisher No Chains,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3TdcZLK4,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-27T05:42:50.544+0000) > > It’s been like this for 2 years straight. I’ve posted countless threads on Reddit about the garbage ass client we’re stuck with and most of them reached the front page with 4K+ upvotes. Many other people posted client buglists and have been complaining about the client for years now, and yet we’ve had no response at all from Riot. > > I’m starting to think that they just don’t know how to fix things. Their programmers are probably so bad they can’t get the client to work properly after years. > > Multi billionaire company by the way. They're trying to find "solutions" that other companies wouldn't think to try, because using what works is something Riot will never do. It's all about the "creative solutions." So we get to suffer.
In my opinion, that’s a short excuse for “we don’t know how to fix it properly and we’d need to rewrite the whole thing”.
: In this season alone, all my rune pages have been deleted twice.
At least it wasn’t your LP getting deleted because of the “there was an error selecting your champion” error at 0 seconds. :^)
Eedat (NA)
: It's frankly an embarrassment how bad of a state the client is left in
It’s been like this for 2 years straight. I’ve posted countless threads on Reddit about the garbage ass client we’re stuck with and most of them reached the front page with 4K+ upvotes. Many other people posted client buglists and have been complaining about the client for years now, and yet we’ve had no response at all from Riot. I’m starting to think that they just don’t know how to fix things. Their programmers are probably so bad they can’t get the client to work properly after years. Multi billionaire company by the way.
WrÆth (NA)
: Yeah and it's completely coincidental that you literally just played against a trynd an hour before you made this post. People really need to stop complaining about champs they just lost to and wait for like a day before using boards. https://imgur.com/a/gpb2Cun
Does it make his argument wrong though? I haven't seen/lost to a Trynd in ages, yet I think he's top 5 cancer champions to play against.
: Hey wukongs players, Wukong is sitting at a 53.76% winrate. Are you sure he needs a buff?
\>Champion.gg \>reliable source Pick one. Leagueofgraphs lists him at 51.5%WR in Plat+, which is kinda different than 53/54%. I’m not even a Wukong player, I just hate when people bring champion.gg stats to prove their arguments.
Meddler (NA)
: A bunch of Heimerdinger bugs got introduced this patch. We're working on a hotfix for those at the moment, hoping to have it out today or tomorrow. If something meaningful (e.g. stun duration) has changed and it's not listed in the patch notes it's unintentional.
There’s also a bug with Neeko tooltips’ numbers, I can’t even see her spells’ names. Not gamebreaking but insanely annoying.
Fízz v2 (EUW)
: Cant wait for lb mains to complain about nerfs because apparently they cant play her and think she is weak lel
2 people on r/LBMains aren’t “LeBlanc mains”, actually most of us know that the champ is busted and a nerf is warranted. What we’d like to see is the right nerf though, like reverting the unnecessary buff to W cd and/or nerf the chain length.
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