: TANKS NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS
Tanks need to deal less damage. Then, we can give them something to not make them implode in a tf
iiGazeii (NA)
: Absolutely, it looks amazing. But he also got a skin six months ago despite being released fourteen months ago. He's getting another skin, meanwhile Ornn and Taliyah have yet to get their first skin after their release that isn't e-Sports related (those don't count, since it's the team that chose to put them into production, not the devs). He's getting another skin before Kled, Aurelion Sol, Kalista, Kindred, Rek'Sai, Ivern, and Illaoi get their second post-release skin.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xHg6oMfO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-14T17:58:36.491+0000) > > Absolutely, it looks amazing. > > But he also got a skin six months ago despite being released fourteen months ago. > > He's getting another skin, meanwhile Ornn and Taliyah have yet to get their first skin after their release that isn't e-Sports related (those don't count, since it's the team that chose to put them into production, not the devs). > > He's getting another skin before Kled, Aurelion Sol, Kalista, Kindred, Rek'Sai, Ivern, and Illaoi get their second post-release skin. Wait,isnt count kledula a thing?
: A MOBA isn't realistic tbh. They are massive undertakings and usually fail because of the dominance of WoW Even if it doesn't straight up fail, you have to remember this is Riot. League is still a massive game and if the MMO doesn't produce a similar result then Riot is gonna discontinue it. It's not gonna be like a TERA Online where they say "Ok WoW still has 95% market share, but hey the game is profitable so lets keep going".
> [{quoted}](name=mrmeddyman,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=9fMb33j3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-11T05:51:56.590+0000) > > A MOBA isn't realistic tbh. They are massive undertakings and usually fail because of the dominance of WoW > > Even if it doesn't straight up fail, you have to remember this is Riot. League is still a massive game and if the MMO doesn't produce a similar result then Riot is gonna discontinue it. It's not gonna be like a TERA Online where they say "Ok WoW still has 95% market share, but hey the game is profitable so lets keep going". Actually, I believe that there is A LOT of room for a MMO to dethrone WOW. But MMOs mean committement; they're high risk high reward, so to speak. You get it wrong, everybody goes back to WOW after a while and you go bankrupt. WOW is super old, looks like a potato and has a pricing method which is almost a deterrent for new (and old) players. Its mechanics are overcomplicated, its bag of knowledge immense, and the game itself is plagued by unfortunate balance directions (coff coff Ghostcrawler). In my opinion there is actually a good chance that the next good MMO is going to turn out the next phenomena, just like league was or fortnite is.
Galiö (NA)
: Galio changes on PBE get worse every day
I don't know what you're talking about mate. Galio's patch history is one big fucking meme. Every single change of that list is carefully picked from an hat by a blidfolded monkey
: Qiyana is fine
I actually believe she's on the strong side in competent hands. And the time has yet to come for the masses to realize that Koreans will build her tank and repeat once again the nightmare that tank ekko was.
Reksee (NA)
: I played a game of jungle for the first time in a while...
If 4 levels behind isn't an hyperbole, you did something very wrong that game. But one or two levels behind are completely plausible for a rough jungle game. Catching up when behind in the jungle can be nigh impossible. There's no correct play to do aside for hoping for a favourable gank occasion. I usually fare decently in the role, but recently I had a game where I lost connection during the 1st clear: as a result, I facetanked gromp, was very low, had to back halfway through the clear, lost both crabs, got invaded when low in the jungle and died. My game was over at that point: the enemy jungler stole my camps as he pleased, and I was too behind to countergank or teamfight. A very tilting experience. So if you tell me you're having trouble with jungling I recall that game and perfectly understand.
: > [{quoted}](name=steven4547466,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iWiUlzg8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-02T21:09:41.360+0000) > > As a swain main, I hate it. This is an all around nerf in my opinion I loved being able to 1v3 a gank, with these changes it's likely not easy to do anymore. > > Edit: Obviously gaining extra max hp is nice, but I liked the damage of new Swain This 100%. Op clearly doesn't play Swain. We're getting damage nerfs and gaining waveclear. His wave clear is fine. Salty.
> [{quoted}](name=Flawless Fetus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iWiUlzg8,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-07-02T21:14:55.626+0000) > > This 100%. Op clearly doesn't play Swain. We're getting damage nerfs and gaining waveclear. His wave clear is fine. Salty. Actually i belive that his waveclear is his most restricting aspect, the reason why he isnt very appreciated. That, and the fact that R2 deals literally zero damage even when fully charged, being the most anticlimatic thing to ever grace league
Rioter Comments
: I don't think there has ever been this many must ban/pick champions ever.
C'mon Lux supp might be on the strong side right now, but I struggle seeing her as "a monstrosity". She's one of the fairest champions to play against
: PBE : Ornn Volcanic Rupture (Q) AD ratio increased from 100% to 110%
Just like the infamous AP ratio buff on WW Q that completely broke the meta
Moody P (NA)
: Old Galio only useful for flash taunt, new Galio only useful for flash taunt
No, no and no. I disagree firmly. Galio's problem was not his design, but the subsequent neverending degenerate balance direction of countless changes. We're talking about a kit designed for a tank, forced (repeatedly! patch after patch) to be some kind of... Mage assassin? To be honest this is the "Ornn issue" (but on steroids), aka Riot being somewhat unable to concieve the simple fact that A TANK MIGHT NOT NEED MORE DAMAGE TO WORK AS A TANK. Ornn released underpowered, so they buffed his brittle passive to questionable %hp amounts of damage. He ended up winning every trade in the toplane, so he was gutted and then lost his shield. The problem with galio? They couldn't, and can't, decide once and for all a design direction with him. What is galio is supposed to do, what he's supposed to build? Is he a damage dealer? If yes, is he an AP bruiser, a poke mage, or is he intended to have a 100-0 lockdown burst combo? Or is he a tank? Then, how much is important his anti-AP identity? Where he's supposed to go? In the toplane or in the midlane? Because having him being super effective vs AP mages AND AD bruisers sounds kind of broken. Now, I dream of a day where galio is the guy you pick to suppress an heavy-AP comp, or to deny lane kill pressure vs some pesky AP bummer, like LB in mid or kennen in the top. His Q his meant to help him competing in waveclear with mages, for he is a direct counter to them. I would remove his ap scalings altogether, and give him his old MR ratios.
PekiCodex (EUW)
: Do YOU support non-meta strategies?
Only to a certain degree. I was skeptical about someone going Sona taric bot before it was cool, but curious as well. No problems with that. I can tolerate some idiot going something nonsense as teemo or singed support, because let's be honest, it's a suboptimal strategy, but as long as they are trying to win... I keep my mouth shut. Would a teemo support do especially bad, I'd report him. I can respect someone trying to pull off a different team structure, like that Nunu smite "support" roaming around the map and counterjungling. But it doesn't work, it's stupid, and actively hinders your team putting it at a disadvantage.
: Ixtal's cultural connections already teased by Ezreal
Nice find. That said, I kind of fear the plot devices they are using lately. What are darkins? They are very old corrupted ascended! What are the ascended? God-warriors of an acient empire that created them with the help of targon, an even more acient society! What is targon? A branch of Ixtal, an even much, much more acient society!! It gotta stop somehow. There are more ways to hype up something. It doesn't necessarily have to be tied to an older, even more mysterious society to be relevant and interesting.
: How Qiyana's Lore (sort of) Saved Her Design And Steps in Perfecting It
Understandable points, fair opinion. But I still see her as a very uninspired character in all regards: lore, appearance and personality.
: > [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x419E12T,comment-id=000a0002,timestamp=2019-06-09T14:48:21.066+0000) > > Sure, a regular eleven years old trapped out of the sunlight for 10 years, ALONE, witnesses everybody she knew and loves being devoured or crushed, gets a ravenous void symbiote growing as her skin, is perpetually hunted by alien abominations... > > .... and she suffers *literally* zero psychological AND physiological consequences... "because she stronk, top tier". Such a believable justification, now everything is explained. Silly me to ask why... > > I don't know man, to me that's objectively trash tier character building. Completely unrealistic, no connection between a character and her past. It doesn't get much more amateurish than that. It's the same level you would expect from a 13 years old kid's fan fiction. I mean, do you actually know what 10 years of isolation ALONE can do to the human mind? Shouldn't we at least take it into consideration? > > But if you want to keep thinking you're right that's fine. But ... she does suffer psychological and physiological consequences. Ignoring for a second how her legs literally open up and show weird void tissue, and how the only part of her that remains mostly human is her face and that stupid V-neck (though personally, I wouldve gone further and made only parts of her face remain human, and definitely gotten rid of that stupid V-neck), even psychologically she is quite stunted. Besides her own difficulties with her missing humanity, and her poor social abilities (if she has any), she also has an incredibly railroaded mind. Its focused on one thing, and one thing only, on a level we dont see in most champions. She doesnt even have a proper joke or emote. Her level of one-track-mindedness puts even Pyke and Nautilus to shame who both at least have some sense of humour.
> [{quoted}](name=Generic Ninja,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x419E12T,comment-id=000a00020000,timestamp=2019-06-09T15:12:42.213+0000) > > But ... she does suffer psychological and physiological consequences. Ignoring for a second how her legs literally open up and show weird void tissue, and how the only part of her that remains mostly human is her face and that stupid V-neck (though personally, I wouldve gone further and made only parts of her face remain human, and definitely gotten rid of that stupid V-neck), even psychologically she is quite stunted. Besides her own difficulties with her missing humanity, and her poor social abilities (if she has any), she also has an incredibly railroaded mind. Its focused on one thing, and one thing only, on a level we dont see in most champions. She doesnt even have a proper joke or emote. Her level of one-track-mindedness puts even Pyke and Nautilus to shame who both at least have some sense of humour. Ok, let me clarify: *believable* psychological and physiological consequences. Because I have kind of an hard time considering as a "consequence" what is essentially a latex suit with a "conveniently placed opening", while her face is unscathed with perfect makeup and hair. The shoulder pads are good, though. Had her a rougher design, I wouldn't be so harsh. But I am not against her concept. What you said is correct, smart, on point: total apathy is a way, if not the only way, for a little girl to survive all of the above. But then, show it to me. Make me understand that she is devoid of emotions, that she had to be. Tell me that the symbiote had some role in this, that when she was scared and paralyzed by fear, the symbiote recognized her as unfit for survival and started compensating. Even then, "no emotions" is *not that simple*, and must be explored in its psychological aspects. As things are, I am more inclined to think this is not a problem of poor execution, but they simply didn't bother delving into a challenging piece of character building. Then you have a void symbiote growing on her skin, which only function is granting her super powers. The problem is... that's not a radioactive spider's bite, and she is not Spiderman. *She's Venom*. Show me her relationship with her newfound skin. Show me that the is *hungry* sometimes. Show me the thing to be *alive*. The symbiotic relationship is yet again completely ignored, another proof of poor quality design. There's a SHITTON of unused narrative space there.
: > [{quoted}](name=YaraUwU,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x419E12T,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-08T17:18:41.214+0000) > > Riot managed to turn a character that goes to the void and comes back basically unscathed and is kassadins daughter dull. Idk how they did it but they did. > > Its a human and a void creature mixed together and they made that boring. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DO THAT. Like her ult could have been the void creature talking over and her going berserk. If she had to be sexy then dont give her the body suit just leave her naked make her skin look like its been molded with a void creature and have carapace (the bone looking stuff on Velkoz) cover the "important" bits. Hell give the fucking void monster a voice in your head. There was no reason for this champion to be this dull. > > But instead we got a fucking counting simulator in a budget samus aran zero suit with a personality the depth of a puddle and a kit so massively thematicly uninspired it looks like an old concept they pulled out of recycle bin from 6 years ago and were told "make it purple" > > Shes the biggest missed opportunity to date and riots gonna have to try really hard to fucking beat the disappointment she is. I'm so sick of the "went to the void and came back unscathed" argument. Kai'sa is top tier. Her mind is strong. Maybe YOUR mind might get crushed by the void, but she is a LEGEND. The game is called League of LEGENDS. There has to be one (or more) characters that can handle the void. Traumatic events and terrible things do happen. There are those who crumple like paper, and there are those who are tempered by adversity. :P Just because you think (and are wrong) that everyone should be broken beyond repair doesn't mean your opinion is worth anything. My guess is you have a major turn on for the void and are angry that it didn't swallow and spit her up. Or maybe you don't look further into characters or their nuances. Either way your opinion is a dime a dozen, and I feel quite incorrect. Haven't looked at the new champion yet, but by your gross miss representation of Kai'sa I'd have to assume she's amazing since you seem to be the most kind of wrong. But hey, let's not get hurt feelings over anything. This is just a video game after all, just stating my opinion here too. (though I am right)
> [{quoted}](name=StonePlatypus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=x419E12T,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-06-08T23:56:23.670+0000) > > I'm so sick of the "went to the void and came back unscathed" argument. > > Kai'sa is top tier. > > Her mind is strong. > > Maybe YOUR mind might get crushed by the void, but she is a LEGEND. > > The game is called League of LEGENDS. > > There has to be one (or more) characters that can handle the void. > > Traumatic events and terrible things do happen. > > There are those who crumple like paper, and there are those who are tempered by adversity. > > :P Just because you think (and are wrong) that everyone should be broken beyond repair doesn't mean your opinion is worth anything. > > My guess is you have a major turn on for the void and are angry that it didn't swallow and spit her up. > > Or maybe you don't look further into characters or their nuances. > > Either way your opinion is a dime a dozen, and I feel quite incorrect. > > Haven't looked at the new champion yet, but by your gross miss representation of Kai'sa I'd have to assume she's amazing since you seem to be the most kind of wrong. > > But hey, let's not get hurt feelings over anything. This is just a video game after all, just stating my opinion here too. (though I am right) Sure, a regular eleven years old trapped out of the sunlight for 10 years, ALONE, witnesses everybody she knew and loves being devoured or crushed, gets a ravenous void symbiote growing as her skin, is perpetually hunted by alien abominations... .... and she suffers *literally* zero psychological AND physiological consequences... "because she stronk, top tier". Such a believable justification, now everything is explained. Silly me to ask why... I don't know man, to me that's objectively trash tier character building. Completely unrealistic, no connection between a character and her past. It doesn't get much more amateurish than that. It's the same level you would expect from a 13 years old kid's fan fiction. I mean, do you actually know what 10 years of isolation ALONE can do to the human mind? Shouldn't we at least take it into consideration? But if you want to keep thinking you're right that's fine.
Haziv (EUW)
: If Voliber will look like this after his rework ...
Something like that, only more Eldritch and uncanny, adn the proverbial rusted weapons of the thousand pierced bear
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: looking at her kit where do we have high mobility? that tiny dash is garbage
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1GNqHu2A,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-07T20:18:30.627+0000) > > looking at her kit > > where do we have high mobility? > that tiny dash is garbage Same thing I thought, until I saw the gameplay video and realized those spells have no cd
: Hmm. I used Swain in terms of looking interesting and not bland because I kinda accepted that things are going to be sexualized no matter what. But in cases like Kai'sa where not only she is sexualized to that extent where it ruins her but she is completely bland and uninteresting both in character and in lore.
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GzJwvnWE,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2019-06-07T14:53:59.771+0000) > > Hmm. I used Swain in terms of looking interesting and not bland because I kinda accepted that things are going to be sexualized no matter what. But in cases like Kai'sa where not only she is sexualized to that extent where it ruins her but she is completely bland and uninteresting both in character and in lore. I agree about Kai'sa, she's certainly one of the worst offenders, if not the worst offender. As she is, she kinda ruins the whole void threat to me. If a little girl managed to survive it, is that really a maddening, almost unthinkable dimension that will consume everything? On top of that, she is unbelievably bland and generic, both in appearance and personality. But Swain does a similar thing to the whole "Noxian meritocracy" ideal. One of the most important (and my personal favorite) redeeming qualities of an expansionist empire such as Noxus was that, *no matter your social status, your culture, your wealth, if you're good at something, the empire will give you the role you seek and deserve. If you're strong, you can rise the grades of military (an orphan like Darius managed to reach the Trifarix). If you're smart, you will be implemented as a tactician or a governor. Swain used to be a somewhat useless, old, ugly, crippled war veteran that became noxus ruler out of his own strategic merits. You don't need strength, attractiveness, youth to rule, and Noxus knows that and doesn't care.* New Swain is given super powers and omniscience by a demon, and has no evident negative qualities (he isn't ugly, old-looking or a real cripple). And I feel that avoiding stripping him of those qualities would have made Noxus a more realistic, positive society.
: She's literally the only one non-skinny female Champion among over 20 skinny ones. Plus, she's muscular, not fat. We can have more than one non-skinny female Champion.
> [{quoted}](name=AnotherPurple379,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q1uubed1,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-07T00:42:24.776+0000) > > She's literally the only one non-skinny female Champion among over 20 skinny ones. Plus, she's muscular, not fat. We can have more than one non-skinny female Champion. Or... We could make a compromise and have somewhat skinny females, but with AT THE VERY LEAST, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, with a slightly different body/face type..
: I really don't know what is going on. They have characters like Jhin, Swain (from recent years) and they have characters like Yuumi, Kai'sa, and Sylas. I really don't understand. How is this possible. The only thing I can think of is that some Rioter care more about the art and the creation itself. While others just care about what the bigger masses want...
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GzJwvnWE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-06T23:04:36.117+0000) > > I really don't know what is going on. They have characters like Jhin, Swain (from recent years) and they have characters like Yuumi, Kai'sa, and Sylas. I really don't understand. How is this possible. The only thing I can think of is that some Rioter care more about the art and the creation itself. While others just care about what the bigger masses want... You are spot on. We have some good design and some very bland ones. The problem is evident: marketing consideration impose constraints on artistic creativity. When every female character ARE REQUIRED to have the same body type, similar facial features, and some degree of revealing clothes, you can't have cohesive, coherent and inspired champions like Illaoi. PS: I really wouldn't use Swain as an example of "good design". I consider him the poster child of the above mentioned issue, actually: he's old but not really (change is hair color from white to black and he suddenly looks 35), he's supposed to be a cripple but he has no trouble walking, and he couldn't mantain his grotesque transformation into a bird demon because "nobody plays monster champions". We expected Twin Lannister and got Lucius Malfoy...
: > [{quoted}](name=Burly Braum,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sJEO9b8u,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-06-07T01:46:29.573+0000) > > That's a fair opinion, though I imagine having a full-fledged cape on his back would make him bulkier. He'd lose a bit of definition in his silhouette sure, but I think he'd definitely be bulkier due to just how blocky a cape would make his backside, no? I don't know. I wouldn't define a cape as "bulky", at least not in the sense that I am intending. A big chunk of black metal plate is heavy, sturdy, intimidating. A flowing cape is cerimonial and elegant, and I don't feel those elements belong on current mordekaiser.
> [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sJEO9b8u,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-06-07T12:17:37.885+0000) > > I don't know. I wouldn't define a cape as "bulky", at least not in the sense that I am intending. > > A big chunk of black metal plate is heavy, sturdy, intimidating. > > A flowing cape is cerimonial and elegant, and I don't feel those elements belong on current mordekaiser (but do belong on his King of clubs skin)
: > [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sJEO9b8u,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-06T06:42:57.471+0000) > > I think a cape would make Mordekaiser lose some of bulkiness and thus his figure would be less imposing. > > That said, I believe that a fine cape belongs on King of Clubs Morde, and it must be implemented. That's a fair opinion, though I imagine having a full-fledged cape on his back would make him bulkier. He'd lose a bit of definition in his silhouette sure, but I think he'd definitely be bulkier due to just how blocky a cape would make his backside, no?
> [{quoted}](name=Burly Braum,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sJEO9b8u,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-06-07T01:46:29.573+0000) > > That's a fair opinion, though I imagine having a full-fledged cape on his back would make him bulkier. He'd lose a bit of definition in his silhouette sure, but I think he'd definitely be bulkier due to just how blocky a cape would make his backside, no? I don't know. I wouldn't define a cape as "bulky", at least not in the sense that I am intending. A big chunk of black metal plate is heavy, sturdy, intimidating. A flowing cape is cerimonial and elegant, and I don't feel those elements belong on current mordekaiser.
: lol is stealing from mobile legends now this is epic
> [{quoted}](name=A Girl Supp Main,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6bft3zmu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-06T21:32:50.583+0000) > > lol is stealing from mobile legends now this is epic To be honest Kayle and Morgana's splashes already were so generic they could easily be mistaken for "league of angels" clickbait stuff lol
: Mordekaiser and his cape
I think a cape would make Mordekaiser lose some of bulkiness and thus his figure would be less imposing. That said, I believe that a fine cape belongs on King of Clubs Morde, and it must be implemented.
Zeanix (OCE)
: Wait hang on, Brand has two skins in the same universe?
: This is a good question! Short answer is that Mordekaiser is not a Shadow Isles champion anymore. For updates the champions bios get updated when they go to PBE but their Universe page is updated after they get fully released, which is why you still see Morde listed with Shadow Isles champs. As to the color question you're pretty much on the money, we just need to take a step further and think more holistically instead of region specific. Morde is a "vengeful spirit" bound to armor and many of the Shadow Isles are also "vengeful spirits" so they are very similar... just in different places in Runeterra. Which would beg the question is there potentially some unknown connection between what Mordekaiser is attempting and the effects of the Ruination? lol That might muddy the waters more than help but at least I hope that answers your question >. < my brain is a wondrous place and I recognize that sometimes what I say makes sense to me but no one else.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot LegendLarry,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0h3jqUk7,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-04T21:26:48.636+0000) > > This is a good question! > > Short answer is that Mordekaiser is not a Shadow Isles champion anymore. For updates the champions bios get updated when they go to PBE but their Universe page is updated after they get fully released, which is why you still see Morde listed with Shadow Isles champs. > > As to the color question you're pretty much on the money, we just need to take a step further and think more holistically instead of region specific. Morde is a "vengeful spirit" bound to armor and many of the Shadow Isles are also "vengeful spirits" so they are very similar... just in different places in Runeterra. > > Which would beg the question is there potentially some unknown connection between what Mordekaiser is attempting and the effects of the Ruination? lol That might muddy the waters more than help but at least I hope that answers your question >. < my brain is a wondrous place and I recognize that sometimes what I say makes sense to me but no one else. So... Basically you are hereby canonizing *lime green* as the official *vengeful spirit* color in runeterra. Be careful, there's no going back from that. So it is safe to assume that a benevolent spirit may appear of a different color... Like *rose pink*. Wonderful. I can't wait to die to figure out my color PS: I would have personally made the big step and definitely separate Moredekaiser from the "Shadow Isles green". A "Noxian red" would have been fitting in my opinion. Anyway, if you have envisioned some cosmic meaning for the lime green color, that's completely justified
GreenLore (EUW)
: Mordes new story actually explains why Beatrice was in the immortal Bastion
We kinda already knew that. Swain found Beatrice in the immortal bastion, and that the immortal bastion was erected by Mordekaiser. Even without explicitly knowing about the iron revenant's search for secrets, we could theorize that he put her there and that she was there for a reason. What it truly is interesting is what Beatrice actually knows for her to be that valuable and powerful. In order to retrieve her, Swain journeyed to the core of the Immortal Bastion. This is apparently described as a very risky and secretive task. I highly doubt that this perilous trip consisted in Swain physically finding a secret passage in the basement of the palace and proceeding to avoid a number of traps ala Indiana Jones. What if at the core of the immortal bastion there were the *gateway for mordekaiser's kingdom of afterlife*? *And Swain literally walked unnoticed among the dead to steal Beatrice directly from Mordekaiser's grasp?* We know Beatrice whispered to a death's door Swain through a crow and proposed him some sort of deal, that I am going to assume included Swain "freeing" her from Mordekaiser servitude. But Swain somehow tricked her in *his own* servitude. This would also explain Beatrice's powers of gathering the secrets of the recently passed away. She could have some sort of connection with the afterlife realm, so that she could talk to souls in the limbo before they faded as described in mordekaiser new story.
: > [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Enzv4pRP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-01T23:08:59.320+0000) > > There is no design problem with Hecarim. > > He's just overtuned right now, due to buffs. > > Nerfs shall put him back in the fine spot he has been in since forever Overtuned? He has been broken or useless since season 3. Thank you E and your potential one shots with any MS item added to the game. I mean he was most recently broken when lethality and celerity were both strong. Turns out when you make a kit reliant on hitting 4 very easy to hit abilities its really hard to tune their kit especially when the character is a jungler. There is no real skill ceiling to Hecarim. It's pretty damn low and I would say his skill floor is pretty low too IMO.
> [{quoted}](name=Jefftiffy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Enzv4pRP,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-01T23:31:25.802+0000) > > Overtuned? He has been broken or useless since season 3. Thank you E and your potential one shots with any MS item added to the game. I mean he was most recently broken when lethality and celerity were both strong. Turns out when you make a kit reliant on hitting 4 very easy to hit abilities its really hard to tune their kit especially when the character is a jungler. There is no real skill ceiling to Hecarim. It's pretty damn low and I would say his skill floor is pretty low too IMO. Granted hecarim is a fairly easy and simple champion, he has been in a fine spot most of the time. The only periods in which he was useless is when the jungle was too harsh for him to clear. When he was over tuned, he was mostly abused in the toplane with E+tp+homeguard interaction, which is no more. And the S7 lethality predator hecarim one shots are more about Riot fucking up the game with loads of extra damage than about the champion itself; even then, he never managed to be truly stong, but only extremely oppressive when ahead and useless when behind.
: Volibear
Nice art! Reading the story, I envisioned a much less clean, symmetrical, mundane creature. For example: a much more traditional armor piece, impaled more weapons, rust everywhere, dry blood soiled fur etc
Murr Wurr (OCE)
: Why did Riot have to remove Graves from the bot lane?
Graves was incredibly generic as a carry, and completely failed to deliver his "shotgun guy" fantasy. The rework was awesome thematically. He was really the "get close and personal ranged carry". But he ended up being played in the jungle, and they had to balance him in that role. Subsequent and necessary nerfs made him unviable in his now secondary role. You can't really have "shotgun fantasy" with shots that go through minions and are high range. And it wouldn't even be balanced having best of both worlds, with range AND close up damage.
: Hecarim is probably the most oppressive jungler right now
There is no design problem with Hecarim. He's just overtuned right now, due to buffs. Nerfs shall put him back in the fine spot he has been in since forever
Ralanr (NA)
: The tragedy of Sion's bio is that Sion is no longer a tragic character.
I have come to hate and fear lore retcon. The new work is frankly not at the same level of the old one. We witnessed so many downgrades, and fortunately avoided disasters like: - Varus losing his whole "duty vs love" personal dilemma, and his identity as one of the very few parents in league of legends. - the internals at Riot somehow (but how is beyond me) being ok with stripping Nautilus of his lore to give it to Pyke. The worse part? Ruining those great pieces of characterization is very often *needless and arbitrary.* The stories shorten and simplify; they become more vague, and core thematics can entirely disappear.
: The King in Yellow is certainly an interesting way of looking for supernatural fear inspiration. However, worth noting, they had mentioned that they may be hoping to double down on making him "THE iconic ambusher in League. Catching enemies by surprise is the true art of playing Fiddle..." Fear of the unknown may play well to the idea, but ambush implies a slightly different tone of scare. The jump scare is certainly different than dread. Which is different from feeling creepy. IF HOWEVER, the designers can find a way to induce multiple forms of fear, perhaps using some of the inspirations you suggest along with embracing a few other methods to allow them to capture the ambusher play style....then that would truly be a frightful rework indeed.....*horrible cackling in the distance building into a cadence of cawing sounds*
> [{quoted}](name=Tarcathos,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zFXgEW1z,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-31T20:13:26.612+0000) > > The King in Yellow is certainly an interesting way of looking for supernatural fear inspiration. However, worth noting, they had mentioned that they may be hoping to double down on making him "THE iconic ambusher in League. Catching enemies by surprise is the true art of playing Fiddle..." > > Fear of the unknown may play well to the idea, but ambush implies a slightly different tone of scare. The jump scare is certainly different than dread. Which is different from feeling creepy. > > IF HOWEVER, the designers can find a way to induce multiple forms of fear, perhaps using some of the inspirations you suggest along with embracing a few other methods to allow them to capture the ambusher play style....then that would truly be a frightful rework indeed.....*horrible cackling in the distance building into a cadence of cawing sounds* I wholeheartedly support "professional jump scare mememeister fiddlesticks", and firmly reject the "Lovecraftian unspeakable horror fiddlesticks". A maddeding truth and an Eldritch appearance aren't the kind of fear I expect from a scarecrow. It's a much mundane, classical kind of horror: weird, sinister, unclear, murderous, evil.
Gidrah (NA)
: A Volibear Mains Thoughts on his upcoming VGU.
I am no Volibear main, but I do play him quite often recently. I don't know at what level you play, but from my personal experience, he's actually a flat, feast-or-famine, uninteresting piece of garbage. So, why do I put myself in suffering and play that champion? Am I a masochist? Do I like being kited to oblivion by every competent player? It's because I have read "Silence of the damned", and I am intrigued by Volibear's newfound identity of Eldritch god-beast of war, wild and thunder. He is completely covered in rusted weapons from battles of old, and perpetually showered with gore and blood. He is a psyonic juggernaut that numbs the consciousness of those around. He has a clergy of bearmen abominations that surrendered their identity to his image. And I want them to deliver on that fantasy, both in terms of appearance, voiceover and gameplay. I recognize that his current kit has some high moments that give a good general direction of what his future rework should have: - E interrupting dashes, anti-airborne niche, minion fear - the flip being an "oh fuck no" moment for the enemy - a violently inflicted big chunk of damage with build-up
: Inexperienced WW player do. The optimal way is actually to put 3 points in W and then max Q, but most players top abilities 1 by 1 https://champion.gg/champion/Warwick/Jungle?
> [{quoted}](name=DeadUnborn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l6NArsLm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-29T18:39:32.074+0000) > > Inexperienced WW player do. The optimal way is actually to put 3 points in W and then max Q, but most players top abilities 1 by 1 > > https://champion.gg/champion/Warwick/Jungle? I will never accept the w max It doesn't make any sense to me
Cevrad (NA)
: Is weird, I'm in your mmr range on this account and get autofilled every 4 games on cooldown to support or ADC as a jungle main. I can't tell if you are trolling btw, but the most popular position in the game is mid lane by a mile. So if you queue JG/Mid every game, you are gonna get jungle almost every game. And if you find the position to be boring, QUEUE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. The position is actually quite fun if you are willing to adapt. Hell I don't even play the top meta picks, I just spam Sejuani, Kha'Zix, Twitch and AP Shyv. I have a blast playing the game when my bot lane isn't turbo inting me into a loss I don't deserve. But it was one game out of 80. You are making it out to be something it isn't by stretching so far to make a point that is completely wrong. If you find the position boring, stop queuing for it. Simple.
> [{quoted}](name=Cevrad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=X57hVEPF,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-05-28T23:05:17.881+0000) > > Is weird, I'm in your mmr range on this account and get autofilled every 4 games on cooldown to support or ADC as a jungle main. > > I can't tell if you are trolling btw, but the most popular position in the game is mid lane by a mile. So if you queue JG/Mid every game, you are gonna get jungle almost every game. And if you find the position to be boring, QUEUE FOR SOMETHING ELSE. The position is actually quite fun if you are willing to adapt. Hell I don't even play the top meta picks, I just spam Sejuani, Kha'Zix, Twitch and AP Shyv. I have a blast playing the game when my bot lane isn't turbo inting me into a loss I don't deserve. But it was one game out of 80. > > You are making it out to be something it isn't by stretching so far to make a point that is completely wrong. If you find the position boring, stop queuing for it. Simple. You're missing the point. A lot of people started finding the position boring, and stopped queuing for it. Now Jungle is statistically the least desired role, which has never been through the years. This may be a strong indicator that there is something wrong with the role itself.
Sherogarth (EUNE)
: Lets face it: Mordekaiser's ult will become a balancing nightmare.
You are right. The chances of his new ult ending up being unbalanceable cancer are high. Moreover I'm calling it here and now. *Proplay nightmare SUPPORT MORDEKAISER* *Morde flash+ult the most valuable enemy to 1v1 him. But mordekaiser first zhonias, then uses stopwatch.* *Gg you gave just traded a support for a carry with 0 counterplay, effectively a 7 s cc*
: Can Soloq MMR affect Flex MMR?
I second this. In order to have an healthy coexistence of the two queques, we need something to actually ease up the insane grind. You can't just be required X2 the time to rank up. By mere time constraints, many are forced to seriously try to rank up in one or the other, and not both. As a result of this, flex q is devoid of players and it suffers from heavy matchmaking and game quality issues. I would make so that your flex rank is calculated from your soloQ rank, minus one or two divisions. Example: one getting diamond in soloq would guarantee getting plat/gold in flex. Maybe, even the other way around, with flex rank guaranteeing a corrispective (significantly lower) soloq rank. I also would remove the possibility to duo from soloq and make it flex only. I am aware that this is a very unpopular statement, but I also admit that duos kinda have an advantage over random players. I speak by experience, for I know a certain duo which is very dominant in abusing uncoordinated randoms, and yet struggles any time we actually play versus another coordinated bot.
: That's really odd. I wonder if it's based off of Yuumi's position relative to you?
> [{quoted}](name=The Taco Kat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JWlkR6ZQ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-27T03:43:08.252+0000) > > That's really odd. I wonder if it's based off of Yuumi's position relative to you? Maybe if Yuumi attaches when she's in front of you, you get that bonus, so that it counts as if you're moving towards her? One would need to look at how Yuumi attachment is coded. Maybe when that filthy animal attaches, her model disappears and it's kept in place at a fixed distance and direction respect to her attachement target, while the animation itself plays out visibly.
: if you are winning a game and type "EZ" in chat
If it tilted you that much, then it was worth it :^)
SP00NS (NA)
: Why is Lee sin in every single meta?
Shhhh don't speak. Don't complain. I don't care as long as he doesn't DOMINATE every meta. I have played this game so many years and I will tell you that any jungle meta that has Lee Sin under 50% pickrate is a gift from the heavens. We had *entire competitive seasons* where Lee Sin neared 90% pickrate. Neverending borefests of Lee vs [either Kha or Elise]. We had Lee Sin setting the bar for who is allowed to jungle for *literally* YEARS. He would just sit in your jungle, farm your camps and kill you whenever he pleased. It is EVIDENT that Riot has an unfathomable hard-on for the blind boi, and it took an utterly idiotic amount of time in order to realize that having him THAT dominant was unhealthy for the game as whole. We ended up with a nice deal in the end: Lee Sin will be guaranteed to be Tier 1 no matter the meta and the balance team will refrain their impulses to buff him into "undisputed king of the jungle" once again.
Ayzev (EUW)
: Yes, newly released champions tend to have shit win rates because people don't have them instantly figured out. But 29%, [if not even lower](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/yuumi), is rather extreme.
> [{quoted}](name=Ayzev,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YNtIJnzy,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-05-15T12:22:01.639+0000) > > Yes, newly released champions tend to have shit win rates because people don't have them instantly figured out. But 29%, [if not even lower](https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/yuumi), is rather extreme. To be fair, she has an extremely peculiar kit with many non-intuitive, brand new mechanics to master. I'd even stretch my statement and claim she's the weirdest champion in the roster to play. Also, part of her counterplay lies in being the squishiest champion in the game, meaning a mistake is harshly punished. I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up having a steep rising winrate curve, but still stabilizing around a negative, yet reasonable, value.
: You talk pretty tough hiding behind an unranked account. How about you put your money where your mouth is and post on your main? Show the world how awesome of a support player you are. You seem to be an expert support ready to dole out tips on the boards. Let's see if you know what it is you are talking about. Let's see that Yuumi win rate of yours
> [{quoted}](name=ixi Josh Sand,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RYOnyQQk,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T15:26:02.964+0000) > > You talk pretty tough hiding behind an unranked account. How about you put your money where your mouth is and post on your main? > > Show the world how awesome of a support player you are. You seem to be an expert support ready to dole out tips on the boards. Let's see if you know what it is you are talking about. > > Let's see that Yuumi win rate of yours Yuumi will see a steep rise in winrate in the next month, and stabilize around 47-49%. She will suffer the same Ivern went through, and tilted people bitching on forums will take a while to catch up to the fact that the champion can actually be effective. I understand and somewhat share your disappointement in seeing yet another enchanter being a ball of stats. But Yuumi is unique and inspired in many parts of her kit, and I fully support her peculiar nature, because we need variety and NOT those jack-of-all-trades, flashy dashy bursty generic outplay machines like Akali and Irelia. Alas, I can abide, yet again for the sake of variety, having one more of those in the enchanter class, as I mentioned above, but that's no reason to reject Yuumi a priori.
Slajmi (EUNE)
: Warwick is too loud
This specific bug has been reported countless times already. I do not know if Riot intends to fix it any time soon, though.
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Lewanor (NA)
: Mordekaiser is the "Lightbringer"
I used to think that, but in the end I believe Mordekaiser would be out of character as an illusionist/deceiver. He's a conqueror and a tyrant. Rules with fear and an iron fist.
iDarkWind (EUW)
: Their pride can't let them accept that this new Aatrox (in this current patch) is healthier and funnier to play while being much interesting. Plus, what you said is totally correct. The Pre-Rework Aatrox was just good because of Rageblade, a toxic item that is being changed constantly.
> [{quoted}](name=iDarkWind,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bBBuy5mR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-10T13:26:29.935+0000) > > Their pride can't let them accept that this new Aatrox (in this current patch) is healthier and funnier to play [...] just lol
: > [{quoted}](name=nelogis,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bBBuy5mR,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-10T12:38:44.849+0000) > > Can you please explain me the word "stat check" Sure. A statcheck is any champion who wins fights through simply having the sheer *stats* to win (instead of heavy strategy or skill being required) and this being constantly true. A champion that gets fed as fuck will win through sheer stats, but this does not mean they're a statcheck - just as if you wear a green shirt it doesn't mean you are green yourself.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bBBuy5mR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-10T12:47:09.046+0000) > > Sure. A statcheck is any champion who wins fights through simply having the sheer *stats* to win (instead of heavy strategy or skill being required) and this being constantly true. A champion that gets fed as fuck will win through sheer stats, but this does not mean they're a statcheck - just as if you wear a green shirt it doesn't mean you are green yourself. To be honest, with current Aatrox's focus on lifesteal, he is more of a stat check [to melee champions] than his previous self has ever been. In that regard, asking for a revert is more adequate than ever.
: ITS HAPPENING.
Being optimistic is a nice quality. However, "Riot fixing things" is a meme more than anything Don't get your hopes up..
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