Vuuduu (NA)
: ME SEE CHAMPION, ME FIGHT THAT CHAMPION
just came off a really bad game where jhin yuumi rengar did NOTHING but fight and chase. while me garen tried to take turrets... fuck me i thought i had queued for solo/duo ranked but guess it was aram.
Tailypo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Genghis Khat,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E6U959VE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-04T15:52:35.483+0000) > > Pre nerf i could clear entire jungle pre 3:15 scuttle. after nerf. 3:15 just killed krugs and need a few seconds to walk to crab. hmmmmmm dont feel nerfed Love when Evelynn goes for that full clear before scuttle. -your friends warwick and rek'sai But yeah, I like Eve too. I don't understand the nerf / buff.
> [{quoted}](name=Tailypo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E6U959VE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-04T16:36:13.115+0000) > > Love when Evelynn goes for that full clear before scuttle. > > -your friends warwick and rek'sai > > But yeah, I like Eve too. I don't understand the nerf / buff. i mean i gotta afk farm to 6 xd
iiGazeii (NA)
: Her Q is up all the time. It's her clear, her damage, her primary tool for getting things done. Even a small nerf to this ability is a huge nerf to Evelynn overall. In contrast, her ult has a long cooldown. She doesn't get it all the time, and using it is a big spike in power for her. Buffing the ult makes those power spikes stronger, but doesn't affect anything outside of those brief moments.
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E6U959VE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-04T15:38:58.758+0000) > > Her Q is up all the time. It's her clear, her damage, her primary tool for getting things done. Even a small nerf to this ability is a huge nerf to Evelynn overall. > > In contrast, her ult has a long cooldown. She doesn't get it all the time, and using it is a big spike in power for her. Buffing the ult makes those power spikes stronger, but doesn't affect anything outside of those brief moments. Pre nerf i could clear entire jungle pre 3:15 scuttle. after nerf. 3:15 just killed krugs and need a few seconds to walk to crab. hmmmmmm dont feel nerfed
: > [{quoted}](name=Genghis Khat,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E6U959VE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-04T15:27:35.612+0000) > >buff her ult for 40% and that wont be too strong. It's a 20% damage increase, but yeah, it's still stupid.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E6U959VE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-04T15:36:03.070+0000) > > It's a 20% damage increase, but yeah, it's still stupid. You know what i meant.
Rioter Comments
Enderkk (NA)
: Because your post made you sound like a silver lol. That's why I was surprised you don't know this trivial stuff. You didn't even address anything else I said lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Enderkk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eLBGKN3c,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2019-09-02T21:52:59.494+0000) > > Because your post made you sound like a silver lol. That's why I was surprised you don't know this trivial stuff. You didn't even address anything else I said lol. Why would i bother reading anything else? from a negative winrate vlad player. no shit you gonna think he is weak if you can't onetrick above 50%. nothing you say has any value. just facts bruv. dont be mad.
Enderkk (NA)
: Bruh how are you Masters typing this lol. There is literally so much counter play. Laning against vlad is so free. He's hard to kill but his wave clear is god awful and is short ranged. Rushing grievous wounds can allow you to go for kills or you can just shove him in and roam. I feel like this stuff should be obvious to even gold players.
> [{quoted}](name=Enderkk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eLBGKN3c,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-02T19:45:03.767+0000) > > Bruh how are you Masters typing this lol. There is literally so much counter play. Laning against vlad is so free. He's hard to kill but his wave clear is god awful and is short ranged. Rushing grievous wounds can allow you to go for kills or you can just shove him in and roam. I feel like this stuff should be obvious to even gold players. "Bruh how are you Masters typing this lol." he says while being plat. that added alot to your opinion.
Nagisa21 (EUW)
: Tyler1 Sand fight with your girlfriend!
Sand fight? that is literally cringe... calling flour.. sand...
: LoL forums in a nutshell
False as more people use the legacy cursor than the new one. statistics prove it cause they dont release em.
Wildjack (NA)
: Why am I stuck in Bronze. Advice please.
trinty force tf.... in bronze rank, no offense but i am 100% sure you do not know the purpose of this build... so start building ap.
: You're only allowed to play one champion for the rest of your life.
{{champion:55}} why would i play kat? because i can.... bet no one in history of league has heard that one before...
SEKAI (OCE)
: Except maple leaves are real.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=f7UVl3vM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-22T15:54:10.176+0000) > > Except maple leaves are real. mapleleaf as in make belief ,-, its a pun
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000000000000000200030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T00:21:15.021+0000) > > Another person who failed reading comprehension. I'm pretty fucking sure you don't even come close to the skill level of the rank 1 Katarina NA, so please stfu and stop trying to act like you know match ups more than the people playing a champ to their full potential. hol up katevolved is playing kat at full potential? he literally lost to d4 euw players. and you think he is any good? big oof.
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000000000000000200030000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:12:24.114+0000) > > {{champion:84}} Akali is crazy trash vs katarina, not favored for her. > {{champion:69}} true > {{champion:39}} can be outplayed, does not "dumpster" > {{champion:38}} conquerer is trash in general imo but yes it helps vs kass also hexdrinker makes kat impossible to kill for kass unless the kat is bad. > {{champion:50}} swain is literally hard trolling right now and kat is an impossible match up for swain. > {{champion:8}} lame matchup true but ignite gives kat an edge unless vlad is a genuine puss. > {{champion:157}} 50/50 match up, skill based ive lost to yasuos and ive beaten them purely skill based. however he will most likely push you in. > {{champion:7}} overnerfed easy to beat. > {{champion:79}} even if he manages to land his combo (without the ult) kat outdamages him + just poke him with daggers :/ > {{champion:74}} is trash into kat > {{champion:1}} barrier and its easy. > {{champion:90}} cant beat kat 1v1 > {{champion:131}} bane of my existence > {{champion:127}} she used to pre aftershock changes not anymore tho > {{champion:85}} is he even picked mid and even then what is he gonna do to kat? > {{champion:268}} lane is entirely up to how good azir is unless he manages to mess up 1 thing cant wont beat him. > {{champion:105}} thankfully most of fizz mains are that with a fish brain but ye he can mess up kat :( > {{champion:266}} I personally see no issue with him i can dance around his Q like a fish :p > {{champion:246}} outplayable > {{champion:82}} ... nerf plz riot said they are better at hotfixing clearly not :/ > {{champion:142}} pretty easy to beat imo. even if you get hit by a bubble (which with W can be dodged quite easily imo) you still drop a W regardless and she will take some damage while you are stunned and after the stun you can continue to do your damage as she used her entire kit. > {{champion:517}} imo is beatable, poke with Q dodging chain is piss easy with E, whilst poking him dont go close enough to let him use W and in lane you should be good. :/ > > :^) You clearly haven't seen KatEvolved's match ups against Kennen. Kennen vastly outdamages Katarina and brings a metric ton of CC to boot. It's obvious you haven't seen a good one mid, otherwise you'd know he's a nightmare for most melee champs. The top Katarina challenger could barely duel him, and only in late game when he got fed as Katarina and still almost died. Where Katarina beats Kennen is in lane prio and ability to roam, but Kenne is far more impactful on teamfights with ult as he is not relegated to clean up, but rather he sets up engages and cleans up at the same time to boot. Aatrox doesn't need to land Q's to kill you after he buys mercs and death's dance. It's OK, bruisers are supposed to counter assassins; Zed and Akali are just busted and the exception to the rule. Yasuo doesn't win by killing you, rather by keeping you pushed in and away from roaming to bot lane, which lets him scale to 3+ items at which point he becomes impossible to duel and split pushes far better than you while being still as useful in TF.
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00050000000000000002000300000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:56:35.018+0000) > > You clearly haven't seen KatEvolved's match ups against Kennen. Kennen vastly outdamages Katarina and brings a metric ton of CC to boot. It's obvious you haven't seen a good one mid, otherwise you'd know he's a nightmare for most melee champs. The top Katarina challenger could barely duel him, and only in late game when he got fed as Katarina and still almost died. > > Where Katarina beats Kennen is in lane prio and ability to roam, but Kenne is far more impactful on teamfights with ult as he is not relegated to clean up, but rather he sets up engages and cleans up at the same time to boot. > > Aatrox doesn't need to land Q's to kill you after he buys mercs and death's dance. It's OK, bruisers are supposed to counter assassins; Zed and Akali are just busted and the exception to the rule. > > Yasuo doesn't win by killing you, rather by keeping you pushed in and away from roaming to bot lane, which lets him scale to 3+ items at which point he becomes impossible to duel and split pushes far better than you while being still as useful in TF. Great example some random dude with no katarina experiance loses to kennen noice. I have no issue with kennens in laning phase, aatrox wont kill me cause by the time he gets DD i got GB and rabadons so dont let yasuo do that so easily? get a gank?
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:35:02.578+0000) > > Katarina? high skill cap? is this a new meme i am not aware of? You must've not played many champs lately beside katarina.... check out mordekaiser- you need a fucking pulse to carry with him , you'll understand how high skillcap katarina is compared
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000b00010000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:42:29.713+0000) > > You must've not played many champs lately beside katarina.... > check out mordekaiser- you need a fucking pulse to carry with him , > you'll understand how high skillcap katarina is compared I guess that is a compliment to me? ,---,
KazKaz (OCE)
: {{champion:84}} No, it's only slightly Akali favoured. {{champion:69}} No, it's borderline even (at least until Chall) {{champion:39}} Yes, she dumpsters Kat. {{champion:38}} Overrated. With Conqueror+Long Sword Kat can beat him (up until Chall) {{champion:50}} This is a champion atm? No, Kat beats him right now. {{champion:8}} Yeah. But this matchup is nowhere near unplayable, it's just volatile. {{champion:157}} Fuck this champion (Yes, he beats Kat, and in a "I have no counterplay" sort of way if he's even half-decent. You quite literally have to forego laning phase against even a decent Yas). {{champion:7}} Sort of? Kat can win fairly easily past level 2. {{champion:79}} Just don't fight him. There, done, Kat beats him. {{champion:74}} No. {{champion:1}} No. {{champion:90}} Sort of? Depends on whether or not his jungler is willing to suck him. {{champion:131}} Yeah, champ's dumb. {{champion:127}} No. {{champion:85}} No. {{champion:268}} Skill matchup, Kat favoured. I'll also add some more: {{champion:105}} : Smashes Kat so long as his brain isn't that of a fish. {{champion:266}} : A bruiser sent mid, Kat hates bruisers...you get the picture. {{champion:246}} : A spammable stun, stealth+movement speed, high damage and an ult that is almost guaranteed to hit if you even so much as think about jumping on her past 6. Oh, and did I mention her having high damage? Cause she does have high damage. {{champion:82}} : Broken. Just broken. If he ever gets through ban phase he'll beat ANYONE in lane and out of lane. He needs some more nerfs ASAP. {{champion:142}} : Not really a losing matchup, just an unfavourable one. Zoe does a ridiculous amount of damage, and her W more or less allows her to "cheat" the matchup. {{champion:517}} : This champ's design besides ult is dumb. His healing is dumb and his damage is dumb. Overall....just dumb, that's my word for him. Definitely beats Kat, so your only option past Plat is just to not fight him in lane EVER (unless your jungler comes).
> [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000500000000000000020003,timestamp=2019-07-15T20:52:41.679+0000) > > {{champion:84}} No, it's only slightly Akali favoured. > {{champion:69}} No, it's borderline even (at least until Chall) > {{champion:39}} Yes, she dumpsters Kat. > {{champion:38}} Overrated. With Conqueror+Long Sword Kat can beat him (up until Chall) > {{champion:50}} This is a champion atm? No, Kat beats him right now. > {{champion:8}} Yeah. But this matchup is nowhere near unplayable, it's just volatile. > {{champion:157}} Fuck this champion (Yes, he beats Kat, and in a "I have no counterplay" sort of way if he's even half-decent. You quite literally have to forego laning phase against even a decent Yas). > {{champion:7}} Sort of? Kat can win fairly easily past level 2. > {{champion:79}} Just don't fight him. There, done, Kat beats him. > {{champion:74}} No. > {{champion:1}} No. > {{champion:90}} Sort of? Depends on whether or not his jungler is willing to suck him. > {{champion:131}} Yeah, champ's dumb. > {{champion:127}} No. > {{champion:85}} No. > {{champion:268}} Skill matchup, Kat favoured. > > I'll also add some more: > > {{champion:105}} : Smashes Kat so long as his brain isn't that of a fish. > {{champion:266}} : A bruiser sent mid, Kat hates bruisers...you get the picture. > {{champion:246}} : A spammable stun, stealth+movement speed, high damage and an ult that is almost guaranteed to hit if you even so much as think about jumping on her past 6. Oh, and did I mention her having high damage? Cause she does have high damage. > {{champion:82}} : Broken. Just broken. If he ever gets through ban phase he'll beat ANYONE in lane and out of lane. He needs some more nerfs ASAP. > {{champion:142}} : Not really a losing matchup, just an unfavourable one. Zoe does a ridiculous amount of damage, and her W more or less allows her to "cheat" the matchup. > {{champion:517}} : This champ's design besides ult is dumb. His healing is dumb and his damage is dumb. Overall....just dumb, that's my word for him. Definitely beats Kat, so your only option past Plat is just to not fight him in lane EVER (unless your jungler comes). {{champion:84}} Akali is crazy trash vs katarina, not favored for her. {{champion:69}} true {{champion:39}} can be outplayed, does not "dumpster" {{champion:38}} conquerer is trash in general imo but yes it helps vs kass also hexdrinker makes kat impossible to kill for kass unless the kat is bad. {{champion:50}} swain is literally hard trolling right now and kat is an impossible match up for swain. {{champion:8}} lame matchup true but ignite gives kat an edge unless vlad is a genuine puss. {{champion:157}} 50/50 match up, skill based ive lost to yasuos and ive beaten them purely skill based. however he will most likely push you in. {{champion:7}} overnerfed easy to beat. {{champion:79}} even if he manages to land his combo (without the ult) kat outdamages him + just poke him with daggers :/ {{champion:74}} is trash into kat {{champion:1}} barrier and its easy. {{champion:90}} cant beat kat 1v1 {{champion:131}} bane of my existence {{champion:127}} she used to pre aftershock changes not anymore tho {{champion:85}} is he even picked mid and even then what is he gonna do to kat? {{champion:268}} lane is entirely up to how good azir is unless he manages to mess up 1 thing cant wont beat him. {{champion:105}} thankfully most of fizz mains are that with a fish brain but ye he can mess up kat :( {{champion:266}} I personally see no issue with him i can dance around his Q like a fish :p {{champion:246}} outplayable {{champion:82}} ... nerf plz riot said they are better at hotfixing clearly not :/ {{champion:142}} pretty easy to beat imo. even if you get hit by a bubble (which with W can be dodged quite easily imo) you still drop a W regardless and she will take some damage while you are stunned and after the stun you can continue to do your damage as she used her entire kit. {{champion:517}} imo is beatable, poke with Q dodging chain is piss easy with E, whilst poking him dont go close enough to let him use W and in lane you should be good. :/ :^)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voluug13,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00050000000000000003,timestamp=2019-07-15T19:28:00.193+0000) > > Malz was a threat pre-rework/pre-nerfhammer. Right now Katarina can just harass him endlessly because of his mediocre skill damage early on and counterpush just about the same he can push because she gets manaless low cd aoe to easily clear voidlings. how to deal with malz as katachuchu E - W - wait - wait - Q - R - E well done you just killed a malzahar even though he combo'd you. double points if you built a hexderper
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000500000000000000030000,timestamp=2019-07-15T19:38:46.353+0000) > > how to deal with malz as katachuchu > > E - W - wait - wait - Q - R - E > > well done you just killed a malzahar even though he combo'd you. > double points if you built a hexderper true ,-, i remember the days malza was a counter to kat but now he can barely even put his shit on the minions xd without me jumping him and outtrading/killing him
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=001800000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:27:20.798+0000) > > im actually not... she is broken and i have been whining for the past 6 months for nerfs.... literally anytime this comes up i agree with everything. :/ not a joke. the diamond kata got downvoted. i bet it was by those pesky challenjours and their church of cc
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0018000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-15T19:06:21.592+0000) > > the diamond kata got downvoted. > i bet it was by those pesky challenjours and their church of cc those pesky downvote bots ;( probably someone like harvey used his bots to downvote :/
: As a Katarina main, I would prefer they nerfed gunblade and moved some of it's power into her kit. But considering it's Riot, they may just break so lol, let's just leave her in her current state.
> [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00120001,timestamp=2019-07-15T19:12:29.465+0000) > > As a Katarina main, I would prefer they nerfed gunblade and moved some of it's power into her kit. But considering it's Riot, they may just break so lol, let's just leave her in her current state. or just nerf gunblade cause its bs broken and not touch katarina at all or nerf her directly.
: What's up with this upvote bot? If you guys are having trouble against Katarina in 2019 then there's a problem with you'll. These must be the same people who complain about Fiora being OP, and cry about how Darius have no counterplay. Like literally any form of magic resist shuts Katarina down, and her pick rate justifies her winrate. Not to mention the counterplay she has. Her laning phase is shit and she loses to pretty much every popular midlaner. I can name em here. {{champion:157}}, {{champion:238}}, {{champion:105}}, {{champion:7}}, {{champion:131}}, {{champion:245}}, {{champion:90}}, {{champion:91}}, {{champion:131}} and a lot more. She's amazing outside the laning phase but is again shut down the moment one of your teammates buy MR and hit her with CC. Ironically her winrate is only around 50% in low elo which means you will rarely come across a skilled Katarina under gold.
> [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2019-07-15T19:00:19.577+0000) > > What's up with this upvote bot? > > If you guys are having trouble against Katarina in 2019 then there's a problem with you'll. > > These must be the same people who complain about Fiora being OP, and cry about how Darius have no counterplay. Like literally any form of magic resist shuts Katarina down, and her pick rate justifies her winrate. > > Not to mention the counterplay she has. Her laning phase is shit and she loses to pretty much every popular midlaner. > > I can name em here. {{champion:157}}, {{champion:238}}, {{champion:105}}, {{champion:7}}, {{champion:131}}, {{champion:245}}, {{champion:90}}, {{champion:91}}, and a lot more. She's amazing outside the laning phase but is again shut down the moment one of your teammates buy MR and hit her with CC. > > Ironically her winrate is only around 50% in low elo which means you will rarely come across a skilled Katarina under gold. errr buddy check some statistics. kat beats talon, malza, ekko, lebroken, zed has 2 losing match ups so he counters EVERYTHING, yasuo is a skill match up, fuck fizz and diana true. and she barely has any counterplay (i as someone who plays kat know this) and for the love of all that is piss stop accusing upvote bots its not a thing jesus christ........... i can say the same for your 2 upvotes. omg upvote botted... dead ass ruins any credibility your comment can have.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000500010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:39:23.365+0000) > > ive played alot kat vs akali never lost once ^^ idk exactly how she "dumpsters" kat > E is not hittable, q does no damage, she cant reliably proc her passive vs katarina cause she jumps like a fish on ice, her shroud LITERALLY is useless cause kats dropped daggers/ult are the entire radius of it, her R is flashable ^.^ so how does she dumpster kat? i barely ever drop down below 50% while destroying akalis. i guess thats just me? I dunno man, every time i get to play against an akali she just sits ontop of the minion wave and q's me when i try to farm followed by a 1000000 units auto attack followed by another q if i try to last hit another minion. Also her AOE Q early on makes me get pushed hard into the turret where i am easier to flank from outside. If you got any tips, i'd love some.
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-15T18:16:39.555+0000) > > I dunno man, every time i get to play against an akali she just sits ontop of the minion wave and q's me when i try to farm followed by a 1000000 units auto attack followed by another q if i try to last hit another minion. > > Also her AOE Q early on makes me get pushed hard into the turret where i am easier to flank from outside. > > If you got any tips, i'd love some. go hard on her level 2? Q jump to her and the dagger aa? dodge her E? if she picked W second then u get free damage and jump out afterwards? basic plays? rince and repeat? dont let he hitr E simple plays really not hard to dodge it, W is useless for akali, You really think her Q and maybe AA + 2-3 minions outdamage your entire combo?
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00050001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:44:18.111+0000) > > I mean you dont really need alot of brain power to do basic things :/ akali is beyond slow and predictable. EXACTLY 2ms you = slow and predictable 20ms regular human = wtf it's shrekali! these are very small margins in reality but they make all the diff
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000500010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:45:42.408+0000) > > EXACTLY > 2ms you = slow and predictable > 20ms regular human = wtf it's shrekali! > > these are very small margins in reality but they make all the diff well ty for the compliment i guess ^^ tho i must add i play on 50-70 ms at all times and even then its predictable :/
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000500010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:39:23.365+0000) > > ive played alot kat vs akali never lost once ^^ idk exactly how she "dumpsters" kat > E is not hittable, q does no damage, she cant reliably proc her passive vs katarina cause she jumps like a fish on ice, her shroud LITERALLY is useless cause kats dropped daggers/ult are the entire radius of it, her R is flashable ^.^ so how does she dumpster kat? i barely ever drop down below 50% while destroying akalis. i guess thats just me? you gotta remember that not all our brains function on 2ms.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:43:17.941+0000) > > you gotta remember that not all our brains function on 2ms. I mean you dont really need alot of brain power to do basic things :/ akali is beyond slow and predictable.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=NelsieLisnen,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T16:00:09.535+0000) > > She is a stomper exactly because of people like the poster of this discussion. They think they can explain everything through winrates. I'd love to see them explain why she is never picked in pro play. According to u.gg Akali is Katarina's best matchup. Tell that to any serious pro and they'll die laughing in a shit puddle of their own making. Akali can continuously trade into Katarina, and keep her off the creeps for like the first 4 waves. Especially if you match her cheesy conqueror with yours. Akali can also negate Katarina's ultimate with the press of a button and then proceed to smash her with superior mobility. Any good mage can also keep her off the wave and severely punish her if she takes a dagger. Katarina's weakness comes down to her having a very streamlined and predictable engage pattern. If every player knew how to take advantage of her non existent early laning then we wouldn't be seeing these farces. I couldn't have said it better chief. I was shocked that it says on u.gg that akali is her highest winrate. akali is like her biggest counter in lane... she craps on katarina. And anyone who doesn't agree probably haven't been playing katarina vs akali a lot. those winrate websites are a load of nonsense.
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00050001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T16:11:21.362+0000) > > I couldn't have said it better chief. > > I was shocked that it says on u.gg that akali is her highest winrate. > akali is like her biggest counter in lane... she craps on katarina. > And anyone who doesn't agree probably haven't been playing katarina vs akali a lot. > > those winrate websites are a load of nonsense. ive played alot kat vs akali never lost once ^^ idk exactly how she "dumpsters" kat E is not hittable, q does no damage, she cant reliably proc her passive vs katarina cause she jumps like a fish on ice, her shroud LITERALLY is useless cause kats dropped daggers/ult are the entire radius of it, her R is flashable ^.^ so how does she dumpster kat? i barely ever drop down below 50% while destroying akalis. i guess thats just me?
Unvictus (NA)
: Please don’t act like 1000 games is a lot considering you have it toggled to all servers. That being said, most of the people playing Katarina in that high of elo are Katarina one-tricks. When a champion has a high skill cap a 54% win rate is nothing to worry about considering the play rate. Not to mention if you look at the data for other champs, when someone one-tricks a champ the win rate is often much higher, somewhere between 57-60%. Now if her play rate was at 10% or more and people were doing well with her with little experience on the champ then you would have a problem. You sit here and say “the data doesn’t lie” but you are manipulating it to make it say what you want it to.
> [{quoted}](name=Unvictus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-07-15T12:14:59.919+0000) > > Please don’t act like 1000 games is a lot considering you have it toggled to all servers. That being said, most of the people playing Katarina in that high of elo are Katarina one-tricks. When a champion has a high skill cap a 54% win rate is nothing to worry about considering the play rate. Not to mention if you look at the data for other champs, when someone one-tricks a champ the win rate is often much higher, somewhere between 57-60%. Now if her play rate was at 10% or more and people were doing well with her with little experience on the champ then you would have a problem. You sit here and say “the data doesn’t lie” but you are manipulating it to make it say what you want it to. Katarina? high skill cap? is this a new meme i am not aware of?
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Spiced Rum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T13:46:10.904+0000) > > So zed, talon, fizz, Diana, Ekko and kassadin Except every single one of them has incredibly effective ranged poke and ranged wave clear. Katarina has only Q, for ranged waveclear which hits exactly 3 minions and she has to use it either on minions or the enemy laner. Or if the laner is dumb enough to stand ontop of the dying minions then it would hit him too. add that to your list of unfavorable matchups {{champion:84}} {{champion:69}}{{champion:39}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:74}} They fucking dumpster on her.
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00050000000000000002,timestamp=2019-07-15T14:31:15.107+0000) > > Except every single one of them has incredibly effective ranged poke and ranged wave clear. > Katarina has only Q, for ranged waveclear which hits exactly 3 minions and she has to use it either on minions or the enemy laner. > Or if the laner is dumb enough to stand ontop of the dying minions then it would hit him too. > > add that to your list of unfavorable matchups {{champion:84}} {{champion:69}}{{champion:39}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:74}} > > They fucking dumpster on her. hol up how does akali dumpster kat? how does kass even damage kat? literally buy hexdrinker and you won lane. SWAIN???????????????????? can he even land an ability on her? never had that happen to me. Pick ignite vs vlad. vs yasuo its a skill match up. Gragas?????????? actual question mark? and when is the last time you have seen one mid? heimerdonger? can he even hit an ability on her? idk if its just me but he cant hit anything on me ever. :/ weird. ekko also cant hit anything on kat :/ take barrier into talon,,, you dont need more damage to kill him, you need to survive his R which is easy as piss with barrier. Zed is a skill match up.
: I know youre probably meming here but you got my upvote {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00180000,timestamp=2019-07-15T17:24:33.195+0000) > > I know youre probably meming here but you got my upvote {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} im actually not... she is broken and i have been whining for the past 6 months for nerfs.... literally anytime this comes up i agree with everything. :/ not a joke.
: it's s9 and lol community still doesn't know how to use CC
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-07-15T10:25:17.802+0000) > > it's s9 and lol community still doesn't know how to use CC https://www.op.gg/champion/katarina/statistics/mid check counters ^^ she has barely any losing match ups and the ones she does lose are known to be hard counters for her :) she beats almost everything. and please tell me how many mastery points i got on her ^^ she is broken beyond any reasonable doubt.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: LOL. Katarina is not OP in any way. Every single cc in the game cripples her. Not to mention every single matchup beside {{champion:136}} and {{champion:45}} in mid lane is a losing matchup naturally because she is melee. @op, you got 1.7k mastery on her... Play her more and see her weaknesses are very easy to exploit. EDIT: i love it that people don't have any actual counter argument to the truth so they just downvote and don't even reply to my post
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-15T10:33:19.252+0000) > > LOL. > Katarina is not OP in any way. > Every single cc in the game cripples her. > > Not to mention every single matchup beside {{champion:136}} and {{champion:45}} in mid lane is a losing matchup naturally because she is melee. > > @op, you got 1.7k mastery on her... > Play her more and see her weaknesses are very easy to exploit. > > EDIT: > i love it that people don't have any actual counter argument to the truth so they just downvote and don't even reply to my post https://www.op.gg/champion/katarina/statistics/mid check counters ^^ she has barely any losing match ups and the ones she does lose are known to be hard counters for her :) she beats almost everything. and please tell me how many mastery points i got on her ^^ she is broken beyond any reasonable doubt.
: people call katarina a "low elo stomper"
Katarina is broken and thats a fact! This isnt a joke btw. no squishy can survive her Q E gunblade, literally no squishy in the game can do that. and after thats its an instant reset to destroy everything else.
: The results of my soloqueue strategy.
Grumpig (NA)
: With Riot currently doing world building for Runeterra, what place would you like to see get more?
Remus Wins (EUNE)
: Mordekaiser Actual Voice
: why do i lose lp for remake when im not the one who afks?
Ye it was his premade, well deserved lp loss
: Pool Party Akali
hmmm yiss this pleases katarina. :^) i would love to abuse this akali in her current 47% wr state with my non broken 52% tier 1 champ.
: Kalista sees Poppy's W now grounding units that use movement abilities
Katarina does get affected... Her E gets stopped by grounded effects like cassiopea and singed...
: Took some time into it but at the same time other irl things had to be worked on, but a promise is a promise haha
> [{quoted}](name=Mendling Fool,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=u1zATUe7,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-29T01:04:49.383+0000) > > Took some time into it but at the same time other irl things had to be worked on, but a promise is a promise haha why is the image so much smaller then the rest? 3^:<
: Hey! Your drawing kitty kat is finally out haha
> [{quoted}](name=Mendling Fool,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=u1zATUe7,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-28T22:28:59.038+0000) > > Hey! Your drawing kitty kat is finally out haha Owo??????? ty :^)
Haze97 (EUW)
: I am giving up Katarina.
Good never play her again ty. good riddance.
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gzZVhZBd,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-06-16T10:41:36.918+0000) > > just an FYI before russians invented the 1-1-1-2 there was no such meta where supp had to go bot all the time :) And exactly how long ago was that? At least **SEVEN YEARS** ago. Do you know exactly why it was invented? Where does dragon spawn? That's right bot lane. Are mid and top laners dependent on Items as marksmen? No but they do have stronger level power spikes. So what does that mean? The support goes to the role that depends on XP the LEAST. What role fits that description? Marksmen ofc. At the very start of SEASON 4 guess what riot did to mid and top lane towers? They gave both of those towers damage reduction, so guess what happens to bot lane tower if there is only 1 person defending it vs two from the enemy team? I shouldn't have to spell it out.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gzZVhZBd,comment-id=000b0001,timestamp=2019-06-16T19:29:24.927+0000) > > And exactly how long ago was that? At least **SEVEN YEARS** ago. > > Do you know exactly why it was invented? > > Where does dragon spawn? That's right bot lane. > > Are mid and top laners dependent on Items as marksmen? No but they do have stronger level power spikes. > > So what does that mean? The support goes to the role that depends on XP the LEAST. > > What role fits that description? Marksmen ofc. > > At the very start of SEASON 4 guess what riot did to mid and top lane towers? > > They gave both of those towers damage reduction, so guess what happens to bot lane tower if there is only 1 person defending it vs two from the enemy team? > > I shouldn't have to spell it out. So what you are saying is... this game cannot evolve anymore? and off meta should be perma banned on sight. gotcha. literally so stupid i lost atleast 90% of my braincells reading something so shortsighted.
: Please stop with the false information
Can someone find in the summoners code or something where it says that support MUST 100% of the time be botlane? just an FYI before russians invented the 1-1-1-2 there was no such meta where supp had to go bot all the time :)
SEKAI (OCE)
: They did. They announced that the guy who went Teemo support and roamed 24/7 is found to only do this when they found themselves in a game with big shot streamers. They can deduce that it is a case of deliberate trolling from that fact. The guy also has a regular history of being reported for doing that in their games, by other streamers most likely, which all resulted in no ban because the IFS can not pick up this kind of context (or nuance in general) and probably assumed as merely case of someone reporting just because of off-meta and discarded the reports instead. Make no mistake, it wasn't their playstyle that got them banned. It was their intent behind the said playstyle that did. It's just that finally someone called them out by bothering with calling a human review that this guy is finally dealt with. That's all there is to this.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=t1cqgd1b,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-16T02:51:04.487+0000) > > They did. > > They announced that the guy who went Teemo support and roamed 24/7 is found to only do this when they found themselves in a game with big shot streamers. They can deduce that it is a case of deliberate trolling from that fact. > > The guy also has a regular history of being reported for doing that in their games, by other streamers most likely, which all resulted in no ban because the IFS can not pick up this kind of context (or nuance in general) and probably assumed as merely case of someone reporting just because of off-meta and discarded the reports instead. > > Make no mistake, it wasn't their playstyle that got them banned. It was their intent behind the said playstyle that did. > > It's just that finally someone called them out by bothering with calling a human review that this guy is finally dealt with. That's all there is to this. yeah except riot lied about him doing that in "streamers game" dude played 400 games in a row with that teemo strat. :) and you think all 400 games this season had streamers in them? not like riot have been called out for lying about that or anything.
: WTF HOLY BALLS I LOVE YOU RITO
ugh same... i got lux permanent a few months ago i was so triggered cause that skin is god awful and lux is a bitch. rng didnt give me sona instead :(
: Quick Tip: Did you know..
Quick tip: Riot does not punish anyone for private messages. I literally have multiple tickets with them saying it is not possible to punish them.
The Gaza (NA)
: K/DA Kat concept (creator unknown)
no. horrible skin, ugly and terrible concept considering she most definitely likes penta kill.
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-05-31T15:47:37.372+0000) > > kat and skill espessive? good meme. she takes as much skill as rammus (coming from 2.3mil kat) 690k kat*
> [{quoted}](name=Katarina OwO,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=0005000100000001,timestamp=2019-06-01T16:29:39.553+0000) > > 690k kat* 2.3mil across multiple accounts* no need to correct anything wannabe kat main
: Katarina Q + Yasuo W interactions that should've been hotfixed a long time ago.
Not a bug and its a good interaction and works just like it should, yes its frustrating but thats how it is and should be, end of case.
: > [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-05-31T15:47:37.372+0000) > > kat and skill espessive? good meme. she takes as much skill as rammus (coming from 2.3mil kat) I mean, in the way that singed pr shaco are There isnt really a combat syle like hers
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-31T16:29:23.234+0000) > > I mean, in the way that singed pr shaco are > > There isnt really a combat syle like hers so what if there isnt a combat style like hers doesnt mean she needs skill or braincells to play :/ cookie clicker champ.
: > [{quoted}](name=TisBis,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-05-31T04:00:12.335+0000) > > Why are there so many Kat one tricks? Cause she's skill expressiv3 and unique, which daraws people in
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-05-31T15:06:20.515+0000) > > Cause she's skill expressiv3 and unique, which daraws people in kat and skill espessive? good meme. she takes as much skill as rammus (coming from 2.3mil kat)
: Wow this obvious upvote manipulation...
> [{quoted}](name=KittyKatKatarina,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LVBWPINi,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-05-31T13:03:20.337+0000) > > Wow this obvious upvote manipulation... aww did i trigger the fake kat mains? D;
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