: When Lee Sin finally sells enough prestige skins, can you finally NERF him ?
LeE SiN iS sO bUsTeD NeRf PlS, wow lmao, I have played against Lee Sin so many times as mid, I love to one shot him whenever I am 2-3 levels ahead. And yes my main is a Lee Sin, but apparently Shaco, Olaf and other attack speed point to click abusers are harder than Lee Sin to face against.
: Akali's shroud, sholud not be able to go into Mordekaisers ult
And morde's ult should not be so overwpowered, and give a bigger wider circle to kite this broken champ around.
: I think its what its called for. She has Very good damage. But in a state that leauge is in right now, Its just everyone has damage. irelia has very good sustain, Very good mobility, A nice team fight ult, with also good stun. I dont think her Q needs Any type of damage buffs. As a lot of champions are actually being countered from her Q, being Yorick being the one I can think of. Shes supposed to be a late game champion, and giving her more damage will just make a her a late game scaling Lane bully. And Its a good thing she cannot get a free reset just because she Qs a caster creep. It makes her Pushing power more strong than and giving more opportunities to escape to an already pretty difficult champ to catch. I Think the champions pretty strong for a late game champion THE only buff I think she needs is her 5MS back. :) (that or make her Ult a bit faster in projectile speed and further range. thats it.
> [{quoted}](name=Rıots Bad Client,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BjrwfU0I,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-13T01:29:43.360+0000) > > I think its what its called for. > > She has Very good damage. But in a state that leauge is in right now, Its just everyone has damage. irelia has very good sustain, Very good mobility, A nice team fight ult, with also good stun. > > I dont think her Q needs Any type of damage buffs. As a lot of champions are actually being countered from her Q, being Yorick being the one I can think of. > Shes supposed to be a late game champion, and giving her more damage will just make a her a late game scaling Lane bully. > > And Its a good thing she cannot get a free reset just because she Qs a caster creep. It makes her Pushing power more strong than and giving more opportunities to escape to an already pretty difficult champ to catch. > > I Think the champions pretty strong for a late game champion > THE only buff I think she needs is her 5MS back. :) > (that or make her Ult a bit faster in projectile speed and further range. thats it. That's the whole point she is garbage late game. She is more likely atm early champ, but falls off pretty hard late.
: > [{quoted}](name=Emperor Talquin,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ERFu5ohP,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-12T21:12:26.447+0000) > > Agreed, he's overloaded with power and utility, that gravitum flamethrower combo for example, being able to root all 5 players on a basic ability is beyond broken. Well Certainly T designed him so what did you expect. He designed Yasuo, reworked akali now Aphelios
> [{quoted}](name=metroman450,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ERFu5ohP,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-12T21:55:20.614+0000) > > Well Certainly T designed him so what did you expect. He designed Yasuo, reworked akali now Aphelios Oh god... CertainlyT did a mindblow champ again, I have no idea how he is still in there. Only bearable rework is Darius and Warwick thats it.
GilxeN (EUW)
: Prestige points
Thanks for info guys.
Rioter Comments
: I thought Dragonslayer Olaf looks good AND is thematically cool. I can imagine a berserker charging a dragon with 2 hand axes... The other 2 you could maybe pick others, but Olaf was definitely a good pick
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=c67LQTpN,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:42:14.137+0000) > > I thought Dragonslayer Olaf looks good AND is thematically cool. I can imagine a berserker charging a dragon with 2 hand axes... > > The other 2 you could maybe pick others, but Olaf was definitely a good pick Olaf yes, but Diana and Trundle, hell no.
floo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP8QH8yN,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:40:04.464+0000) > > **A L M O S T 10 levels.** LeT mE cOmPlAiN iF i WaNt To
> [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP8QH8yN,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T11:52:13.711+0000) > > LeT mE cOmPlAiN iF i WaNt To Not complaining at all, just a fact it takes so long to get your desired champ to buy, because simply GRINDING is nerfed, I could grind IP easier.
Saezio (EUNE)
: IDK there are champs with bonkers winrates in other lanes (like ahri and nami in mid and support) and they are never addressed. Morde suffers from the one thing that SUPPOSEDLY riot wouldn't introduce to the game.. He is a fucking statcheck. He can never be balanced. Add to this the fact that 1300g makes him not able to ult you... Gj riot, really easily balancable champion.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J9fccG5I,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-12T10:09:32.963+0000) > > IDK there are champs with bonkers winrates in other lanes (like ahri and nami in mid and support) and they are never addressed. > > Morde suffers from the one thing that SUPPOSEDLY riot wouldn't introduce to the game.. He is a fucking statcheck. He can never be balanced. > Add to this the fact that 1300g makes him not able to ult you... Gj riot, really easily balancable champion. I kept saying that morde is statcheck for so long time, every one laughing at me, but then I say "hey you incels, look at his build he is going full tank and still two shotting people, what about that?".
Bauble (EUW)
: So, TT is gone, how are we doing dailies now bois?
You play ARAM/SR/Co-op vs al, what invention you want?
floo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP8QH8yN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T07:25:28.626+0000) > > If I want a champ with price 6300 I need almost 10 levels, depends on luck. No you don't. Minimum reward is 810 BE per level. That makes 8 level ups. With the max reward being 1260 from a 6.3k shard, the average gain per level up is around 1k BE. You'll need between 5 and 8 level ups depending on your luck, which.. isn't a lot for an expensive champion. And even then, every 10 levels you get a big capsule with even more BE. Not to mention you can get lucky and draw the corresponding champion shard, reducing the cost down to 3780 BE.
> [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sP8QH8yN,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T10:13:21.793+0000) > > No you don't. > > Minimum reward is 810 BE per level. That makes 8 level ups. > With the max reward being 1260 from a 6.3k shard, the average gain per level up is around 1k BE. You'll need between 5 and 8 level ups depending on your luck, which.. isn't a lot for an expensive champion. > And even then, every 10 levels you get a big capsule with even more BE. > Not to mention you can get lucky and draw the corresponding champion shard, reducing the cost down to 3780 BE. **A L M O S T 10 levels.**
: When they nerf Lee Sin, so never.
> [{quoted}](name=Crescent Dusk,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YJfrObFl,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-12-12T02:41:26.095+0000) > > When they nerf Lee Sin, so never. Nothing to nerf on Lee Sin, if you loosing to Lee, learn to play sir.
Bultz (NA)
: Malphite is not a ducking burst mage
Wait when silvers/golds will come to tell you "GIT GUD U DIDNT SIDESTEP THE ULT".
Jikker (NA)
: I've been actively hunting down bots in AI matches. Just report every single one you can find. I remember fighting the swarms of bots in Runescape; now it's showdown 2.0, League edition for me.
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=mLRIilQp,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-11T20:39:56.938+0000) > > I've been actively hunting down bots in AI matches. Just report every single one you can find. I remember fighting the swarms of bots in Runescape; now it's showdown 2.0, League edition for me. Reported couple in the past, nothing happened for them.
Remus Wins (EUNE)
: Sett Champion Spotlight
Well I hope true damage won't scale like camilles Q, then he should be fine with nerf hammers.
: Please fix matchmaking (role select)
Same situation here, primary mid, secondary jungle, getting only secondary role 90% of the time.
: Hey look, Sett is Simple, can you guys give the design team a break now?
: Level Up Capaules are unfair
If I want a champ with price 6300 I need almost 10 levels, depends on luck.
Afk on Lane (EUNE)
: Stormrazor is currently overloaded item.
Not only Kai'Sa, same with Jhin.
FURRY V2 (EUNE)
: The first actual post which is not a whine but a pleasantly fun point of view about the happenings.
> [{quoted}](name=FURRY V2,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=qUTEFmc0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-27T10:00:23.222+0000) > > The first actual post which is not a whine but a pleasantly fun point of view about the happenings. Indeed. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ImA6P6n8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:13:59.942+0000) > > [Lolwut](https://u.gg/lol/champions/leesin/build) Did you just link a 30% pickrate, 20% banrate, 50% winrate champ and implied it wasn't broken? Like, does he need to be 100% banrate like S3 Kassadin?
> [{quoted}](name=Jinzo Torrance,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ImA6P6n8,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:45:03.583+0000) > > Did you just link a 30% pickrate, 20% banrate, 50% winrate champ and implied it wasn't broken? > > Like, does he need to be 100% banrate like S3 Kassadin? No one even bans Lee, I'd rather perma ban Shaco, Ekko, Nocturne.
Godlzahar (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ImA6P6n8,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:29:13.295+0000) > > Give me source how lee sin 100-0 at lvl 3. > > BIASED DELUSION at it's finest. Look friend, i didnt post this to do the maths about the broken lee sin or zed or ekko that can one shot you without their combos ( im 100% sure about that ) unlike malzahar that you NEED to do his full combo to kill something and only at lvl 6 ( and many times u cant even kill them ) I didnt mean he can kill you in 100-0 at lvl 3 but for sure he do strong dmg to cut much of your hp( more than malzahar for sure and from other forgoten champions) Im a little tilted with the direction of riot has take thats all. With malzahar i need to build 3 items to do good damage and champions like them need only one Thats why i play with dmg runes on malzahar like cheap shot ( true dmg from rylai slows and on your ult for example) but you lose the cdr that malzahar needs too in his current state, Its sad. And again you dont do strong damage like ahri for example. Cause i dont want only to farm all time and be a ult bot all game Hell, you cant even farm and push in lane sometimes against some champions that can destroy your minions in one aoe. But this company cares only to make money from champions like yasuo, ekko etc, thats why the dont give a f* about us.
> [{quoted}](name=Godlzahar,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ImA6P6n8,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:38:52.126+0000) > > Look friend, i didnt post this to do the maths about the broken lee sin or zed or ekko that can one shot you without their combos ( im 100% sure about that ) unlike malzahar that you NEED to do his full combo to kill something and only at lvl 6 ( and many times u cant even kill them ) > I didnt mean he can kill you in 100-0 at lvl 3 but for sure he do strong dmg ( more than malzahar for sure and from other forgoten champions) > > Im a little tilted with the direction of riot has take thats all. Look friend, your bullshit does not bother me in anyway. Video source or delete this BS topic.
Done25 (NA)
: A 11/0 Diana will 1v5 even without Yuumi. Yuumi currently has a 42% win rate. She doesn't need nerfs.
> [{quoted}](name=Done25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Yn3xewrO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-27T13:29:31.276+0000) > > A 11/0 Diana will 1v5 even without Yuumi. Yuumi currently has a 42% win rate. She doesn't need nerfs. I agree her winrate is dogshit, but with certain champions due her kit she is too overhelming to deal with.
: Which Diana skin is your favorite?
Blood moon, no doubt.
Xenoid (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LjXRHBLl,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T11:57:47.628+0000) > > actually I would love this feature to chat with friends from other region, they probably making like a platform, for example: Battle.net by Blizzard/Activision. I am the type of person "I don't want my friends to know what I am doing and when" therefor I haven't used Battle tag feature until they implemented "appear offline" feature. And if we talk about Battle.net accounts, they did it smarter by using e-mail address as username. Since you can make e-mail address with desired user name with any out of hundreds mail services and nobody can take your username. And you can change your username at any time just by changing e-mail address in account settings.
> [{quoted}](name=Xenoid,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LjXRHBLl,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T12:12:05.628+0000) > > I am the type of person "I don't want my friends to know what I am doing and when" therefor I haven't used Battle tag feature until they implemented "appear offline" feature. > > And if we talk about Battle.net accounts, they did it smarter by using e-mail address as username. Since you can make e-mail address with desired user name with any out of hundreds mail services and nobody can take your username. And you can change your username at any time just by changing e-mail address in account settings. True true, personally I think Riot handling these account name changes wrong way.
Xenoid (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LjXRHBLl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-27T11:45:11.605+0000) > > Because your login username may conflict with other server usernames, just an opinion... I understand that, but why? What advantage do players get by doing so? Chat with friends from other regions? Did anyone ask for that feature? If the accounts from all regions won't be merged into one what's the point of having 10 Riot Accounts instead of 10 League Accounts? {{sticker:sg-janna}}
> [{quoted}](name=Xenoid,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=LjXRHBLl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T11:55:30.937+0000) > > I understand that, but why? What advantage do players get by doing so? Chat with friends from other regions? Did anyone ask for that feature? If the accounts from all regions won't be merged into one what's the point of having 10 Riot Accounts instead of 10 League Accounts? > {{sticker:sg-janna}} actually I would love this feature to chat with friends from other region, they probably making like a platform, for example: Battle.net by Blizzard/Activision.
: I have multiple accounts, it's going to be real fucking annoying to memorize new usernames for 7 different accounts.
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Drive,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZOoskXAZ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-27T10:11:03.459+0000) > > I have multiple accounts, it's going to be real fucking annoying to memorize new usernames for 7 different accounts. SO stop smurfing 4HEAD.
abca98 (EUW)
: Still don't get why I have to change my username.
Because your login username may conflict with other server usernames, just an opinion...
Crashyy (EUW)
: I'm praying for this to come back.
> [{quoted}](name=Crashyy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=B8FEgAhW,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-26T20:49:11.379+0000) > > I'm praying for this to come back. You can pray all day long, but it's not gonna happen.
Myrmiron (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6pxf8ULv,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-27T09:23:42.818+0000) > > Oh look who is back, > the king of downvotes! Why would you downvote him if he's right?
> [{quoted}](name=Myrmiron,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6pxf8ULv,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-27T09:31:31.089+0000) > > Why would you downvote him if he's right? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Do you even know how to read?
016 Hiro (EUNE)
: And suddenly Warwick who has fast clear, good early ganks, good duels, decent mobility is now god tier with 55%+ WR I can understand catchup exp being removed or experience from camps lowered, but with both nerf you do one mistake in jungle and you are screwed for next 10 minutes Every jungler who scale, have bad clear are now total trash tier. Now I am not allowed to touch any "fun pick" like Karth or Brand
> [{quoted}](name=016 Hiro,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XgzAVNHy,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-26T21:33:13.571+0000) > > And suddenly Warwick who has fast clear, good early ganks, good duels, decent mobility is now god tier with 55%+ WR > > I can understand catchup exp being removed or experience from camps lowered, but with both nerf you do one mistake in jungle and you are screwed for next 10 minutes > > Every jungler who scale, have bad clear are now total trash tier. Now I am not allowed to touch any "fun pick" like Karth or Brand Lol karthus atm is sitting S tier.
: League accounts are now riot accounts?????????
You don't own account you got just temporary service by Riot, why u are so surprised? {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: wait so you quit the game because china won worlds? you do realize that EU and CH had the same play style correct? these 2 regions were the only ones up to date and honestly there haven't been an evenly matched finals for years it's been 3/0s for quite a while and im almost sure they weren't told to throw the match so that china can have a "win" but hay if that came to be true id imagine riot and tencent would get a major fucking hole in their reputation and would lose all credibility sponsorships and what not from their pro scene so is it worth potentially losing their esports brand so that the chinese team can get a 1st place in their esports?
> [{quoted}](name=Thingamajig,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hknXbPyH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-26T12:37:54.586+0000) > > wait so you quit the game because china won worlds? > > you do realize that EU and CH had the same play style correct? > these 2 regions were the only ones up to date > and honestly there haven't been an evenly matched finals for years > it's been 3/0s for quite a while > and im almost sure they weren't told to throw the match so that china can have a "win" > but hay if that came to be true id imagine riot and tencent would get a major fucking hole in their reputation and would lose all credibility sponsorships and what not from their pro scene > > so is it worth potentially losing their esports brand so that the chinese team can get a 1st place in their esports? Worlds were scripted, just my opinion... G2 played like in a solo q match, they indirectly trolled, was actually embarrasing to watch.
: Don't you mean to ask him how many years he's been playing? League's been out for 10 years. It's easy to have a lot of BE once you have all the champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Wimbledofy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iWyFg8bu,comment-id=0002000000020000,timestamp=2019-11-26T10:56:30.273+0000) > > Don't you mean to ask him how many years he's been playing? League's been out for 10 years. It's easy to have a lot of BE once you have all the champions. Lol year is not a factor, I can have the account for years but If I play 2 games in a month, whats the point of account age?
: Well im just glad that they did something to prevent Junglers from afking on my lane hope it will stay that way
> [{quoted}](name=NerfMIDLANERS0,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TtEkVNWg,comment-id=000a0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-26T09:39:23.938+0000) > > Well im just glad that they did something to prevent Junglers from afking on my lane hope it will stay that way Learn to play, what I can say, I hadn't problems in Season 9 against a jungler, proper vision, proper positioning and I am pretty much safe.
: https://youtu.be/vIDIQfxX_ZA :D
> [{quoted}](name=Abibyama II,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Rn3mEAW7,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-11-25T10:57:19.078+0000) > > https://youtu.be/vIDIQfxX_ZA > > :D God Season 9 I thought is worst, but Season 10 will be the champion of disgusting trash season.
: Aphelios Kit Primer
Can't wait to see Knock up, Stun, Silence, Dash, aoe, global damage in one single champion, show us complete obliteration! Show us what kind of dumb champions you can make!
GigglesO (NA)
: Who gives a shit if its overpriced... 350k essence and nothing I want
> [{quoted}](name=GigglesO,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iWyFg8bu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-26T00:15:43.521+0000) > > Who gives a shit if its overpriced... 350k essence and nothing I want 350k? Wat... How? How many games u play per day?
: Don't forget trist, an adc all ining you lvl 2.
> [{quoted}](name=Schlagobert,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QidRBlqx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-26T09:14:46.735+0000) > > Don't forget trist, an adc all ining you lvl 2. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
BlackXIV (EUW)
: That's a huge misconception, Mid and bot dictate dragons, not jungle. Jungler only needs to be there to smite, and it's not even that important.
> [{quoted}](name=BlackXIV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TtEkVNWg,comment-id=00020002,timestamp=2019-11-24T20:18:38.960+0000) > > That's a huge misconception, Mid and bot dictate dragons, not jungle. Jungler only needs to be there to smite, and it's not even that important. Exactly, Jungle role is just too influenced by a mid and bot lane presence, because Riot forced like this. Basically Drakes will be secured by a better vision of bot lane and mid roams/participation in objective control. I already felt this in my games, assassins roams are just overhelming despite that they are 2-3 levels always ahead, no matter how I am getting kills but I am still under XP deficit.
: Im always deep warding and no its not my fault that Junglers in Season 9 After clearing the jungle had nothing to do and could just sit on a lane for 2 mins till their camps respawned and didn't get punished for it because duo exp wasn't that bad. Preseason changes are good because now if jungler decides to just sit on a lane or hide in bush for min he will lose time that he could spend to get more farm in jungle. Maybe fellow Junglers instead of crying should just adapt and don't waste their time afking on lanes and actually do their jungle ? Jungle was best role in season 9 these "nerfs" didn't come out of nowhere
> [{quoted}](name=NerfMIDLANERS0,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TtEkVNWg,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2019-11-26T08:08:04.821+0000) > > Im always deep warding and no its not my fault that Junglers in Season 9 After clearing the jungle had nothing to do and could just sit on a lane for 2 mins till their camps respawned and didn't get punished for it because duo exp wasn't that bad. Preseason changes are good because now if jungler decides to just sit on a lane or hide in bush for min he will lose time that he could spend to get more farm in jungle. > Maybe fellow Junglers instead of crying should just adapt and don't waste their time afking on lanes and actually do their jungle ? > Jungle was best role in season 9 these "nerfs" didn't come out of nowhere Jungle solo q in season 9 far away to be the best and most influent. Yes yes yes u will talk about high elo, pro players etc etc. Don't forget who enforced those endless ganks and XP changes, not the players, but Riot.
: Finally Junglers got nerfs they deserved .Got tired of all this lane camping in season 9 now they are being punished for doing it
> [{quoted}](name=NerfMIDLANERS0,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TtEkVNWg,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-11-25T13:25:44.288+0000) > > Finally Junglers got nerfs they deserved .Got tired of all this lane camping in season 9 now they are being punished for doing it If ur vision score was only 10 and u didnt bought any single pinkward, u deserve to be camped.
: Now that Worlds is over, can Lee Sin get nerfed?
Talking about positive win-rate, he doesn't have it, across all elo's. Whole this post is a big shitpost.
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HGMW8Wvd,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-11-25T09:16:26.943+0000) > > LeE SiN OP NeRf HiM PlEAsE, bunch of silvers crying about high skill-cap champion. > > Whoever thinks he is op, jungle him for the next 10 games and post me results here. Oh god, you're a main. I'm so glad I uninstalled this game, get mental help seriously.
> [{quoted}](name=RegardsKitty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HGMW8Wvd,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-11-25T11:10:12.474+0000) > > Oh god, you're a main. > > I'm so glad I uninstalled this game, get mental help seriously. I am glad one silver and inting player less in this clown fiesta.
Wrecked (NA)
: I think people complaining about executes are just kinda bad. What's the difference between an execute and a ultimate that does damage? Execute works on % health or tells you when it'll kill, instead of damage/ability power. That's it. Veigar ult is pretty much an execute. Except it scales. Same for Lux. Etc etc... Elder is a little more stupid, because it's not a missable or close-ranged ult with a decent CD, it's a basic they can use any time. But trying to complain about executes in general, shows the person is just a bad player who shouldn't be talking about balance. But let's talk about why this is a good change. People talking about how it's basically another win condition. Uh... yeah? It requires a team to have 4 drakes plus for elder to spawn. Assuming it's not a landslide of the game, let's put the enemy team got at least 1. Plus 5 minutes for first to spawn, that's a MINIMUM of 35 minute game. 40 if enemy team got 2 drakes, 45 if they got 3. I think the purpose of new Elder is yes, to be a alternate win condition. Because games that go that long, usually suffer from an issue of one team is winning, but doesn't have the comp to siege the enemy base because enemy can clear waves well. So this is a good change, because it gives games that are going on too long, a good way to close. If your team is bad enough to go that long while winning, then proceed to lose the elder to the enemy, and the enemy ends up winning off of it, then you deserve that loss. Simple as that. What makes it any different than when people get baron buff, which makes their abilities chunk your health and give them insane siege power? Not much, other than the method of which you die. All this change does, is make the third win condition that was always on the map, comparatively good to the first two. (Pushing/fighting and baron)
> [{quoted}](name=Wrecked,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NQARZX0r,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-11-22T11:07:11.969+0000) > > I think people complaining about executes are just kinda bad. What's the difference between an execute and a ultimate that does damage? Execute works on % health or tells you when it'll kill, instead of damage/ability power. That's it. Veigar ult is pretty much an execute. Except it scales. Same for Lux. Etc etc... > > Elder is a little more stupid, because it's not a missable or close-ranged ult with a decent CD, it's a basic they can use any time. But trying to complain about executes in general, shows the person is just a bad player who shouldn't be talking about balance. > > But let's talk about why this is a good change. People talking about how it's basically another win condition. Uh... yeah? It requires a team to have 4 drakes plus for elder to spawn. Assuming it's not a landslide of the game, let's put the enemy team got at least 1. Plus 5 minutes for first to spawn, that's a MINIMUM of 35 minute game. 40 if enemy team got 2 drakes, 45 if they got 3. I think the purpose of new Elder is yes, to be a alternate win condition. Because games that go that long, usually suffer from an issue of one team is winning, but doesn't have the comp to siege the enemy base because enemy can clear waves well. So this is a good change, because it gives games that are going on too long, a good way to close. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} I would trash talk at you with valid reason, but it's against rules.
: > [{quoted}](name=Akumu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rBnxdUYn,comment-id=00090002,timestamp=2019-11-21T22:42:47.560+0000) > > Uhh no? You're wrong. > > Preseason is not the time for trying stuff out. Their internal preseason development time is the time when they try things out. > > How many times have changes in preseason been completely reverted before the season goes live???? ** ZERO** > Preseason changes always go live with minor changes. This preseason doesnt need minor changes, it needs to be removed. > > > Seems the 'stupid' person that 'cant grasp' things is you. The only thing that should go is the elder drake buff. I'm happy with everything else in this preseason : They : - Tonned down damages giving half the drakes defensive stats instead of offensive - Nerfed the fire drake - Gave more resistance to plates when multiple players gather to kill an early turret - Nerfed a bit the overganking junglers - Nerfed the bot XP and gave toplane xp a boost so toplane is revelant again and best adc does not always win - Nerfed damages from frosthang People wanted a more macro oriented and strategic game so they gave more importances to rift herald and drakes and you are not happy ? Nothing they can do will make you happy, you built up a false idea of how good the game was in the first season you played and you forgot everything that was absolutely BAD. I play since season 4 and i'm still having fun, the day I stop having fun I just quit and maybe come back one year later to see it it changed in a way that fits my will. I do not throw a tantrum on the boards. And YES preseason is meant for trying out stuff.
> [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rBnxdUYn,comment-id=000900020000,timestamp=2019-11-22T09:39:33.688+0000) > > The only thing that should go is the elder drake buff. I'm happy with everything else in this preseason : > > They : > - Tonned down damages giving half the drakes defensive stats instead of offensive > - Nerfed the fire drake > - Gave more resistance to plates when multiple players gather to kill an early turret > - Nerfed a bit the overganking junglers > - Nerfed the bot XP and gave toplane xp a boost so toplane is revelant again and best adc does not always win > - Nerfed damages from frosthang > > People wanted a more macro oriented and strategic game so they gave more importances to rift herald and drakes and you are not happy ? Nothing they can do will make you happy, you built up a false idea of how good the game was in the first season you played and you forgot everything that was absolutely BAD. > > I play since season 4 and i'm still having fun, the day I stop having fun I just quit and maybe come back one year later to see it it changed in a way that fits my will. I do not throw a tantrum on the boards. > > And YES preseason is meant for trying out stuff. Mountain drake scales only for late game, but what's the point of the late game when Dragon soul will execute at low hp threshold? Infernal drake nerf influence early game is not significantly huge, in overall I don't see damage reduction all I see they added more damage creep to work with. If u didn't open your eyes yet, it's time to do it.
Yenn (NA)
: Lee Sin's animation cancel on W + Q + R should be fixed ASAP
I am pretty much not aware of those buggs, because I am not into exploiting, I will try to figure it out later.
XDynamite (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NQARZX0r,comment-id=00210000,timestamp=2019-11-22T07:37:06.762+0000) > > I guess high elo streamers also should learn how to play the game, right? Every high elo player finds elder Drake balanced ,what are you talking about.
> [{quoted}](name=XDynamite,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NQARZX0r,comment-id=002100000000,timestamp=2019-11-22T09:34:16.822+0000) > > Every high elo player finds elder Drake balanced ,what are you talking about. Source please, seems u are watching other universe streamers. Negative feedbacks are already backlashing.
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtpCwn-jUb4&t=27m30s watch delete thread
> [{quoted}](name=Thingamajig,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eYNQoVBU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-21T23:34:49.149+0000) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtpCwn-jUb4&t=27m30s > > watch > delete thread Delete thread why? Because him self clarified few things that champions who are at low hp are getting instantly killed and those champs are completely nullified who can heal at lower HP?
: A positive comment about new Drakes
Lol ocean drake is superiory hated for me, the map becomes darker, and most annoying is infernal drake when they deforming buffs pits.
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