: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XWmHi0eH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T04:17:49.832+0000) > > It seems like that cloak... is not a cloak. That does seem like the only logical explanation doesn't it? Unless of course he really does just consider his hair "fur"... {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
It seems kinda common for vastaya to style their bodies in a way that their body parts mimic human clothing. Xayah and Rakan have wings that look like capes and Namis scales act like a dress.
: They do, actually. There are 5 iconic animals of Chinese mythical stories. The dragon, the beast, the turtle, the phoenix, and the tiger. Each skin represents one of those animals, with Draven being the dragon, Sett being the beast, Garen being the turtle, Leona being the phoenix, and Jax being the tiger.
Uhm isn't the beast just a second dragon? One of them being a blue dragon and the other being a golden one? You are referring to these guys aren't you? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Symbols
darkdill (NA)
: Since Sylas is getting a Freljord skin because of that short story, should Lux get an Ionia skin?
What is obvious is that Lux will try to change the system in Demacia and help the opressed mages and that you simply want a yukata-Lux skin(which honestly wouldn't work that well because Luxs animations would need to be changed for the skin)
: I do think we'll get Yone!?
Really doubt that. Lucians story was always about saving his wife from the lantern and she was tied to a faction that is build around necromancy, so her coming back as an undead was a pretty logical step forward. However Yone was killed and buried by Yasuo and given his LoR card he doesn't even look particularly edgy himself, he seems to be more like the responsible brother of the 2.
klin537 (NA)
: as far as animals go we have enough imo. crocodiles, wolves, dogs, cats, bears, birds, foxes, goats, fish, cows, snakes, and rats. Monsters like cho and rek may seem original but honsetly there isn't much variation between them. Vel koz is the only one that really differs from the rest. As far as big manly guys go, I'd make the case that sett is one. But if he seems a bit on the gay looking side, at the very least, that's unique since we already have darius, garen, and braum as big manly guys. my point is that they've clearly exhausted the animalistic archetype, and all they have left is sexy, cute or edgy, so that's what they'll do and it's been a while since they added a male who's main characteristic is sex appeal.
> [{quoted}](name=klin537,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=aJxWwZkc,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-12-12T01:27:36.178+0000) > > as far as animals go we have enough imo. crocodiles, wolves, dogs, cats, bears, birds, foxes, goats, fish, cows, snakes, and rats. > Animals vary wildly though, so every new animal species adds more flavor to the game that wasn't already there. And granted we did get an animal champ already this year with Yuumi, but she is far from feeling like a beast, since she is a domesticated cat. Also there are many distinct animal-types that still aren't represented in the game, people thought for example that Sett would be a bat-themed champ. > Monsters like cho and rek may seem original but honsetly there isn't much variation between them. Vel koz is the only one that really differs from the rest. > There are different types of monsters in fiction and the monster champs in LoL are all based on different archetypes, making each of them distinct. Cho'gath is a kaiju, Rek'sai a landshark, Kog'maw a monster puppy, Vel'koz a beholder, Kha'zix a praying mantis(so he doubles as a monster and animal champ). Similar to animals there are still tons of monster-archetypes left untouched in LoL. > As far as big manly guys go, I'd make the case that sett is one. But if he seems a bit on the gay looking side, at the very least, that's unique since we already have darius, garen, and braum as big manly guys. > He is muscular, its mostly that his face that falls into the pretty-boy group of characters and people are kind of sick of that considering that {{champion:523}}l the newest champ also falls into this category and like I said, the recent champion pool has been oversaturated with hot male champs. > my point is that they've clearly exhausted the animalistic archetype, and all they have left is sexy, cute or edgy, so that's what they'll do and it's been a while since they added a male who's main characteristic is sex appeal. That is extremely narrow minded. I don't see how "sexy, cute and edgy" are literally the only 3 characteristics besides animals. A champ can look badass, they can look spooky, they can look mysterious, they can look intimidating or simply look weird and interesting.
klin537 (NA)
: Am I the only one who actually likes sett?
I like him as well, but I feel like the dislike for him is mostly part of a bigger problem: The fact that almost every new champ has to look either sexy or cute. Every champ since 2017 except for Ornn and Pyke was designed to be sexy and/or cute. A lot of people here on this board want more unique and interesting designs similar to the ones that we got in the seasons 4-6. When Sett was announced, almost everyone here thought he'd either look more animalistic or be a big manly guy. Instead he ended up looking rather bishounen, even if he is big and muscular.
Bultz (NA)
: Some thoughts on Sett and the Mecha skins
The Mecha kingdom skins aren't the lunar-revel event skins though, so it makes sense that they aren't rat-themed.
: i mean itd be interesting, but Draaaaaaaaaaaven loves Draven so idk.....
One of the LoR cards actually shows Draven flirting with a woman, so Draven making out with girls isn't out of question.
: First we'd have to deduce the reason for Diana going to Ionia. If she weren't chased off the mountain by the Solari, then why leave? It is possible something happened between Diana's color story and her leaving Mt Targon. Even in Nami's color story, the Solari elder of the coastal village called her a heretic for allying with the Aspect of the Moon, meaning Leona's influence had yet to spread across the Mountain and there may be extremist groups who oppose Leona, I would not be surprised if the Burning Ones are such a group. To be fair Diana's weapon isn't supposed to be called a scimitar, however, the main connection is that Aphelios' in-game interaction with Diana, Alune quotes her to be "fleeing" something.
Yeah overall it looks like we are still missing a lot of pieces here. The targon lore feels like the most convoluted lore of the major factions anyway, it just feels like so many lore pieces are missing.
Manxxom (NA)
: Sett's lore is actually quite sad and inspiring at the same time
Yeah, while Sett is not what I had hoped for(I wanted either a really big muscular guy like Braum or a more monstrous looking vastaya), I do have to say that I like his lore. There is a pretty good chance that his father might turn out to be {{champion:119}} which would give Draven finally something to do in the lore besides being the sidekick of Darius and drinking buddy of Swain.
: Why do so many people down vote this these ideas are great!
Given the speed at which this was downvoted it is likely that its because of a downvote bot. You'll occasionally see that a particular thread will get up/downvotes crazy fast because of some bot. With that being said, this is the wrong board for this, the concepts&creations board is the place for skinideas.
: So are the vastians related to the beings from sharima? (i appologize for spelling)
He is called Sett, not Seth though. Overall there is likely no connection besides the fact that some vastaya moved to the shuriman continent. A rioter once gave an explanation that Renekton, Nasus and Azir look like this because the ascension ritual reforms the body according to the ideals of the person and Shurima has or at least had a lot of animal-symbolism in their language, so a golden hawk was likely a symbol for leadership, hence why Azir turned into a hawk with gold armor.
Elipo (NA)
: Is he supposed to be Draven's son? Why does Draven appear on Seth's page.
Setts father was part of the ionia invasion and was the former star of the ionian fighting arena. However said father left to go to the noxian fighting arena, so its pretty likely that Draven is his dad or that Draven might have met or maybe even killed his dad in the arena.
Bultz (NA)
: Is this really sett.....?
According to his lore he is a half-vastaya. Half-vastaya are known as shapeshifters, so there is still hope that he could have a transformation ability(though his lore doesn't mention this, so the chances are low). EDIT: Just realized that he is still categorized as vastaya, which makes this theory less likely, though it makes me wonder about the circumstances of the shapeshifters.
Peardix (NA)
: The problem with Child of Zaun
Vi herself realized that she misjudged the voice, she thought he was just someone that manipulated others with empty promises, she thought that the voice made Urgot up, thats why she spoke against the voice. The voice simply came across as incredibly shady at first.
: This story likely occurs after {{champion:131}}'s flee from Targon, likely it was her scimitar which was in the possession of the barbarian. It also links back to the in game interaction {{champion:523}} has with her. **** It was interesting to see the connection/ comparison between the Solari and the Naktu religion from Lucian's story.
Why would Diana loose her scimitar though? She still has it in her color story, which plays after she killed the elders. Also when Leona became the aspect of the sun, she realized that Lunari and Solari don't have to fight each other, so it'd be odd that solari soldiers are still on the hunt for lunari.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Actually from Riot King Cobra, it's not Sol. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6c646a7c9fbae153e3d889939383924e3d1438d129f26b07928b55e479f6d156.png
In that case I'm not sure what this could be then. It is clearly snakelike in terms of body shape, but without a humanoid upper body, so it can't be Cassiopeia and there is no other champ with such a body type(or one that even looks similar to it). Might be just an OC for the skinline, like the shadow samurai from Project Yis trailer.
tamaya (NA)
: The Solari never saw the light of day.
I'm not really sure how this paints the solari as any more evil than they already were. I mean we knew already from Aphelios bio that the solari were hunting the lunari, though its still not clear if this piece of lore happens before or after Leona took over the solari(though given that it says that their priests deny the existence of the lunari I'd say it happens before that incident). Other than that, it only shows the solari attacking a barbarian who is trespassing on their territory, given that the solari and the barbarians seem to be enemies(as they attack the solari settlements in Leonas color story). And its not really like Aphelios is presented in a positive light here either, he murders the solari and then murders the barbarian, even though the barbarian wasn't hostile to him. Granted I'd also like to see a more positive side of the solari in the future, but this is the story of Aphelios, one of the greatest enemies of the solari, so of course his story will focus on his point of view,not that of his enemies.
Falrein (EUW)
: Regarding Syndra - I agree. I'm not familiar with the Syndra mains, mostly because of that. I personally really like her current direction, even though it is flawed. I do think she _should_ be a big player in Ionia's future. And I do think she will be, it's just that we're getting progression rather slowly (which is understandable given the whole lot of champions they have to work on)! _______________________ While I agree, I don't think that's quite true. I don't think making Morgana 'more evil' (for lack of better words) would do much, apart from making her less appreciable, and we'd just find ourselves with two unattractive characters. Making Kayle look better would be more interesting. I think that what I would have appreciated more from Morgana's lore is a better take on her killing Ronas. Yes, she protects her followers, but she hated him, she could have just imprisonned him, it would've been better to make this more apparent? On that however I disagree. I _loved_ Morgana for being a witch. And to me, it's a problem if she just refuses to use magic. I understand that you don't mind it, but it's personally one of the reasons why I loved Morgana in the first place. I understand why she resents her celestial origins, and how it can be interesting from a storytelling point of view, but it's really just annoying (again, at least to me), to have Morgana have that stolen from her imo. Another reason why I think so is because when Kayle comes back, she'll have trained for a millenia (at least according to the AMA). I fear Morgana will just be completely useless (whatever the story ends up being) if she isn't a witch anymore and refuses to use her own celestial powers next to her sister who's been training for years. About Nasus, I think they are somewhat similar, but Morgana's just been growing resentment towards her sister, which is a bit different from Nasus (and also why I'm hoping she'll have trained in magic because she knows her sister will come back) Regarding the wings, Kayle has her 6 wings currently lore-wise. I think the in-game thing is just for the sake of her gameplay, and I do think Morgana started with only 2 wings as well? I don't disagree with that, except on the Kayle problem that she isn't portrayed in a good enough light. Sadly, I feel like we won't get much for them in a while :/ I think we're gonna step away from Demacia after the Novella, which is fine, but well :/
I agree that Kayle needs to show some of her good sides too. In the optimal case they should both be morally grey, neither of them should be pure evil or good. However they have already shown Kayles bad side, so I simply feel like Morganas should be made more clear too.
: It says 5 new pilots, I really wonder who else will join the mechas besides Jax. EDIT: Also, that shadow when he is talking about the threat they are fighting. Could it be that they are **finally** adding more Kaiju skins for the Mechas to fight?!
Looks a lot like Aurelion Sol, though I think this is a different skinline than regular mecha(the regular mechas are more like transformers, giant sentient robots). Might mean that Aurelion finally gets an Ao-Shin skin.
Falrein (EUW)
: Everything wrong with – Syndra, Kayle, Morgana
Kinda agree with Syndra, though that always felt like a problem with her character. The way her lore builds her up, I feel like she should be a major player in Ionia, but she has no connections to anyone and her goals seem kinda hazy. I also think that Syndras fanbase might be a problem here. I've seen some people get extremely defensive when it comes to Syndra here on the boards, so I fear that Riot might hesitate to rewrite Syndra too much(or add a lot), because it'll likely end rubbing her fans the wrong way. Diana is the only champ that had such a zealous fanbase here on the boards and her new lore feels like it was made specifically for those, as it painted Diana in a way more positive light. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ When it comes to Kayle and Morgana I agree that their lores depict Kayle a bit too evil, but also that Morganas lore depicts her in a far too positive light. Yes her idea of redeeming criminals instead of killing them is actually quite noble, but so far her view isn't really depicted as a problem like Kayles. I do agree that Morgana doesn't feel like a witch anymore, but I'd argue that this isn't a problem, as Morganas primary archetype was always that of a "fallen angel", which she still has. Her being also a witch, was kinda odd and to be honest I feel like Riot could make a better witch-champ eventually. And yeah Morgana feels similar to Nasus in that she is apparently an immortal who spent the last centuries sulking and doing nothing until their sibling gets active again. I also wonder why Morgana has 6 wings even though she rejects her celestial origins, while Kayle has seemingly to work for her additional wings... Overall however I feel like the problems of Kayle and Morgana stem more from the fact that riot hasn't decided to continue their lores and not because of a fundamental flaw in their lore or character.
Manxxom (NA)
: One thing I am anticipating for Sett since he is supposed to be a buff brawler.
I expect him to be at least as buff as Braum and Illaoi.
: I dont think every villain needs sympathy to be a good character though. and I mean I'm talking about Thresh here. maybe I'm wrong, but a reason many like Thresh is because just how evil he is of course, let there be more to him. but does he HAVE to be a villain that you need to think "awe, only if his life was better" when you learn about him?
> [{quoted}](name=TheMan292,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6E68WA99,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-08T05:26:40.199+0000) > > of course, let there be more to him. but does he HAVE to be a villain that you need to think "awe, only if his life was better" when you learn about him? I think thats what the opener is talking about when he says that depth doesn't need to de-villainize the villain. Mordekaiser is overall still an extremely selfish guy, who did evil things for his own gain. While you can feel a bit sorry for him I don't think anyone would consider this a "tragic backstory" or even try to excuse his actions just because his motivations are understandable doesn't mean that he is less of a villain.
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MrzdEc5U,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-12-06T17:01:51.336+0000) > > Not sure how Ascension was really changed. > It was still only bestowed upon the worthy ones, the unworthy ones that tried it were killed by it or turned into Baccai. But we haven't seen any Baccai. Only a bunch of Ascended that went completely mental. > Just because you are worthy though doesn't mean you'll always be worthy(Renekton is a prime example of this, so ascended warriors turning evil was something from the old lore already). Renekton didn't turn evil. He was driven mad after sealing himself with a vicious mage who tortured him for centuries. Even in his old lore, he got twisted because he could see evil in the hearts of people who sought the ancient knowledge he guarded. In both cases, he was affected because of isolation and being subjected to various kinds of horrible things. The Renekton in the new lore was brutal but at the same time, he was ready to sacrifice himself to save others. He was ready to die to let Nasus live because he believed that he, a soldier, a brute, didn't matter compared to his brilliant brother. He locked himself with Xerath without hesitating. So, there is a reason why he was chosen and that stayed with him till the end. The Darkin we saw in the story? Nobody knows why the fuck they were considered worthy of anything.
Baccai were considered failures and were killed, hence why there aren't any. And you are right that Renekton was turned evil by Xerath(who is an evil ascended himself, though he manipulated the ritual, so it makes sense that he'd be the exception), however it was also heavily implied that the void is responsible for the fall of the other ascended.
: The Darkin lore was a huge failure from the start. It just paints all the sides as terribly stupid and nothing really has any meaning anymore. - Ascencion is no longer granted to the worthiest and immolates the unworthiest, it's a supersoldier maker. - Azir saving Sivir and becoming worthy of Ascending doesn't matter anymore. If anyone can Ascend, why is Azir so special? - Nasus is a sad fuck who didn't do anything - and he didn't go crazy like his kin for...reasons? - Darkin are shown as one-sidedly as possible. Even though they are supposed to be broken soldiers without a king, they don't have half of the depth they're supposed to have. Aatrox is like the one doing all the tragic bits. - Targon is a bunch of assholes. - Icathia is a bunch of idiots who dropped an atomic bomb upon themselves and those who remained started giving themselves asspats while sitting balls deep in the Void.
Not sure how Ascension was really changed. It was still only bestowed upon the worthy ones, the unworthy ones that tried it were killed by it or turned into Baccai. Just because you are worthy though doesn't mean you'll always be worthy(Renekton is a prime example of this, so ascended warriors turning evil was something from the old lore already).
: Nah, but considering that we have seen her in detail in universe, I guess we are not going to see her added as a champion. Senna was kinda a special case, since she has such strong lore connections with Lucian and Thresh, but this is the exception, not the rule. I can't remember a precedence of a side character that got later added as a champion besides Senna.
Lissandra was mentioned in the Journal of Justice making an alliance with Ashe(which is of course just a farce, but Ashe doesn't know that). Kai'sa is implied to be Kassadins daughter, who was first mentioned before the retcon. Illaoi appeared in a story before she was revealed(though that was like only 1 month before, so you could count it as a teaser) Renekton was mentioned in the very first lore of Nasus. Granted so far we've never had a clear image of any of these characters(except for Lissandra, but that was her in disguise), but with her it'd be easy to just transplant her head onto a new body, opening up a whole new world of design possibilities.(or just modify her body) So while that would be unprecedented, I wouldn't say it is out of the realm of possibilities
: Hecarim's Largely Unjustified Ego
It's possible that Hecarim straight up doesn't remember getting killed by them. After all the black mist destroys the mind of its victims. Or Hecarim is sometimes the one who lands the killing blow and Ledros simply didn't mention it in his story.
: What is Evelynn's lore?
> -Evelynn is perfectly capable of inflicting pain with her claws and did so in both the old and new splash art, and it was in her old kit as well. So outside of just being more of a silhouette on her model and a way to make her not just a naked save for shadows demon lady, what does she use the lashers for? She likely uses them as weapons. Yes claws are nice and all, but her tentacles have a larger reach and are likely even more deadly. > -Also most demons have some sort of fall from grace or something that conjures them into existence but Evelynn is just kinda here to be a plot device for Vayne? Demons in runeterra aren't like that though(the darkin are closer to the "fall from grace"-kind). In general we don't know the exact nature of demons in runeterra, but they seem to be primordial spirits who feed on human suffering in one way or another. Evelynn is a spirit who literally feeds on pain. -Why wouldn't she kill Vayne? Does she have the big grand plan? Could she turn Vayne into a demon like herself? After all Vayne has become a cold blooded rutheless monster killing machine and it would make sense seeing as how she's going down a dark road.... In-universe Evelynn is unable to just walk up to someone and kill them. She needs her victim to touch her with "desire" before she can attack them. So Vaynes parents likely did this before they were killed, but Vayne was just a child at that time(one that just walked into a room with her dead parents), there simply wasn't a way for Evelynn to physically assault Vayne. -Why does Evelynn eat things like dragon if she feeds off pain? Can demons feed off normal means and just choose to feed of the suffering of others (in Evelynn's case because Tahm quite literally eats people if I'm not mistaken) because it's fun for them and they can do so? That's just a joke. -On top of all that Evelynn seems to have disdain for Ahri (in the theoretical circumstance that they were to one day meet based off of interactions in game) and calls her a skank, and while I don't think Eve is quite a succubus she does use sexuality to her advantage to lure in prey, but we never really see how Evelynn is on her own. I mean its the same for the other demons in league as well, we only see them in the context of what they hunt, never seeing them how they see themselves and how they conduct themselves while not hunting. So whats Eve truly like? Evelynn uses sexuality as a trap, but she has never sex with her victims. I'm pretty sure though that this is just a quote to give these 2 a sort of rivalry, because they hunt in a very similar fashion within the lore, making them sort of counterparts to each other.
: {{champion:1}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:235}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:163}} all of these are female champions that aren't sexual or alluring in nature (outside of alt skins, but alt skins are for fan service.) several of them are "dark" in nature. exactly what you're asking for. most of them are clothed from head to toe, with the exception of Riven who has sandles.
How is Zyra who is literally running around in a leaf-bikini not sexualized? If anything I'd say that she is one of the worst offenders, because there is nothing in her lore that would imply that she is sexualized.
: Ah, yes, Baron Velveteen Lenare! https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Flolstatic-a.akamaihd.net%2Ffrontpage%2Fapps%2Fprod%2Funiverse-map%2Fen_GB%2F61d0e6fadd7044bbdacb73ba6fdcc10fa1c31ef0%2Fassets%2Fimages%2Fzaun_baron_02.jpg&key=f0abbd34f14549f3a15cd94dd9970851&width=425 I also really liked her design and wished that she would be a champion, but she in particular is ruled out now unfortunately. But yes, I would like to see something similar. A female who had to replace alot of her body parts.
Uhm why is she in particular ruled out? Did something happen to her in a lore piece that I'm forgetting?
: The Vlad story in Realms of Runeterra is pretty explicit about his good looks
Haven't read Realms of Runeterra yet, so I'll have to take your word on this.
: "cruel, angular features", "long hair flowing dramatically", "marks of nobility" this is all pretty attractive, and frankly the most attractive we'd seen at League for a male champ back then. Easly season 1, when the game was much more conservative.
Long hair, nobility and "angular features" don't necessarily translate to handsome though, you can have any of those and still not look handsome.
SSmotzer (NA)
: wtf is lor?
Legends of Runeterra, the upcoming LoL-card game.
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y0JkA82H,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-03T16:14:22.590+0000) > > So one thing I'm wondering: > Why do you think that Vlad is supposed to be good looking in the first place? > > Yes he is based on vampires, but that doesn't mean he has to look good. https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/art-is-life/ that story should help you get a feel for what Vlad's about
Yeah in that story it is clear that Vladimir is extremely vain and very good with words. But vanity doesn't equal good looks. Sure it is mentioned in this story that Vlad used to be extremely handsome, when he was a young man, but that was in the past, he changed his appearance quite a bit over time.
: Has been described as extremely handsome in the lore since his release 9 years ago (and in the most recent stories about him too, spoilers for Realms of Runeterra)? Seduction is part of his themes and appeal (specifically power+sexuality)?
His old lore never described him as handsome or even good-looking, the closes thing we have to that is his judgement in which they merely describe his overall demeanor "The regal demeanor of our guest is a hoax, a trap for those foolish enough not to look beyond the surface; the perfectly groomed hair, the extravagant attire, the manicured fingernails... these marks of nobility are false" So while he dresses himself in a very elegant manner, he himself isn't necessarily good looking. Also from what I can get his character is primarily based around hedonism and vanity. Sexuality does play into that, but hedonism covers a lot more topics than sex.
: Why does LoR Vlad have to be ugly?
So one thing I'm wondering: Why do you think that Vlad is supposed to be good looking in the first place? Yes he is based on vampires, but that doesn't mean he has to look good.
Jaspers (EUW)
: I actually think the lore behind Darkin is pretty filled out, we know who they are, why they exist all that. What you want is stories on the individual characters right? I'm fine with Varus and Aatrox stuff but the less about Rhaast we know the better. Some characters are better left as homicidal maniacs. Do people want characterisation or _humanity_ added to a nutjob who goes on about killing everything he sees?
To be honest, I would like more characterization about Rhaast, but it shouldn't necessarily humanize him, just add to how much of a nutjob he is. Like seeing his view on life and why he enjoys killing so much, it doesn't have to be anything tragic or something like that, but even a nutjob can have more character than "I like killing".
Phridolin (EUW)
: yes i do. it was primary just an example especially regarding the overall look /face, hair, far better armor. but since you mentioned this sword issue, i kinda really like the idea that Garen could be a sword/shield guy. so... thank you! :)
Riot tries to keep the champs diverse and I think that making Garen a sword/shield guy would make him too similar to Leona, especially since both of them are also associated with light.
Haziness (NA)
: Dragon map changes
I agree that the elemental effects could be stronger, but I think that they shouldn't be overbearing. The way you made the infernal effect loos ok on baron pit, but the glowing lava on the floor looks like it'd damage you if you step on it.
: To be fair, there's no reason the Black Mist should favor her in a manner that allows her to manipulate souls after being imprisoned with no drawbacks whatsoever. She's not insane, she's not traumatized, her body is essentially 'complete', her mental state is stable. The Black Mist did nothing but benefit her, which basically goes against everything the Black Mist is supposed to be.
She is actually traumatized, its not present in most of her quotes, but some make it pretty clear that the lantern did leave her mark on her. "Part of me keeps wondering when I'll run into the lantern's walls." I agree that there should have been some physical scars on her body though, at least a scar that marks the part of her body where Thresh struck the killing blow.
: Why is Senna a champion at all?
The gun and her body aren't physical, they are manifestation of her soul/the souls of the other purifiers. Souls being able to manifest the weapons they wielded in life isn't really anything new, Hecarims halberd isn't a physical weapon, his armor isn't really physical either, they are part of his soul, when he dies his weapons and armor disappear with him and he respawns with them on the shadow isles. So if the black mist is able to replicate armor and a weapon, then its not unreasonable to believe that it could also replicate the guns of the purifiers. Senna herself is also merely shaping her body like her original one, when she uses her E we see what she really looks like. In threshs lore it was mentioned how he became more inhuman looking over time, so most of the shadow islanders likely used to look relatively human back in the past.
Shibis (NA)
: Very SERIOUS IMPORTANT question
Honestly I think Yuumis owner is planned to become a champ eventually given that she takes a very similar role to Senna in Yuumis story(lost loved one that the champ is trying to safe, Yuumi and Lucian are even both using magical artifacts of the person they lost). With that being said, I wouldn't expect her any time soon, after all they'd have to redo a lot of Yuumis VO when her master becomes a champion, so they certainly won't do it while Yuumi is still pretty up to date in terms of VO-quality.
: I remember making a comment on Alistar being the antithesis of Sylas. Alistar would be the savior of slaves, the untamed rebel of justice, the breaker of chains, the unstoppable will who decides to help those in need against oppressive regimes like Noxus or Demacia. He has no true faction loyalty, but he's a force of good who morally knows best for those enslaved. Since Alistar lost his family to a Noxian invasion, the slaves he freed become his new family as they all strive to free others in need of help.
To be honest the problem I'd have with that is due to the sheer size of runeterra it seems kinda unlikely for Alistar to ever be able to end all of the noxian opression, which in turn would mean that he'd have no reason to go to Demacia. (though it'd be different if he tried to seek refuge there, but even then I kinda wonder what he'd even do there) But even then, what is he supposed to achieve in Noxus and how would he go about it? Will he start a revolution to overthrow the government?Does he ambush noxian troops, just to sabotage them? Will he invade the city to free the slaves? I honestly can't imagine Alistar doing any of these. I mean the first one is basically impossible and the others require the giant minotaur to be stealthy, which just doesn't work out very well.
: Alistar Thoughts
To be honest, I feel like it'd be ok to make a complete rewrite of Alistars story. I mean the noxian arena is pretty much the most interesting part of his character, so I'd say it'd be actually better if his story took place within the arena, not outside of it. Besides, what is alistar supposed to do against noxus outside of the arena? He won't be joining demacia, since demacia is quite far away and he has no reason to go there, so he'll likely live in the noxian territory. Unless they establish some sort of rebel group within that territory, then I don't see how his story would even proceed there.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Yes, that's what I was saying. 9.24 is the last one of the year, so we won't see anything for awhile, but still if it's related to a new champion and it's on the PBE NOW why isn't he? Hmm? Maybe like I said, we can gain it during the upcoming event, and then use it later? Since again it clearly says openable ON a certain date.
Like I said, we might get the REVEAL of the champ with these calling cards, not the champ itself. After all the calling card preceeds the actual event. So the reveal of the champ might correlate with the time where the calling card can be used, meaning that the champ would be revealed in january(which would be the time where they hit the PBE) and only get released in febuary.
Sukishoo (NA)
: But it generally doesn't make any sense for a event item to appear a month and a half to two months before an event. Plus 2020 is the year of the Rat.. so why would something that has a Bat design get released for that? Cause of that is a rat, Riot is way off. We shouldn't see lunar revel content till 10.1 or even 10.2 depending on the timing for Riot. The Chinese New year that it revolves around is Jan 25th afterall.
Riot is soon gonna enter their "end of the year"-pause. The next patch will likely be the last one this year and the first patch next year will likely not even come out until january(possibly not even until the end of january, like this year). So we'll have like ~1 month, if not more, without updates. Besides if the next champ is bat-themed, then it'd make sense that the card is bat-themed regardless if this is for the lunar revel or not, the champs teaser would simply take priority over the lunar revel theme(or the calling card is for the time before the lunar revel)
Sukishoo (NA)
: But it IS received before then or it makes no sense for it to say that. It's for something special that they haven't done before. And I did say what the name could be related too, but that requires reading. Also that card is far from Asian imo, it looks like a bat
Saying that the name would be just related to the lore of an event, seems rather vague though. I mean why would a lorecharacter, one related to an alternate universe, be the central focus for this?Especially if its not a new champion, in which case "Sett" would likely be a rather minor character to all the other night/dawn-champs. And why does the card look nothing like the night/dawn-theme that the event is based around? There is also no character related to bats in that event, so the card design doesn't make sense in that regard either. There are even other loot assets already for the night/dawn event and they look nothing like the calling card. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lvlcAJ-9VmI/Xd2uCjMS3eI/AAAAAAABb3I/CZu4KfCsH644LZoSoMxhgkT6CNU3JXOsgCLcBGAsYHQ/s200/dawnnightbringer_orbresize_490px.png The note about you being unable to open it until january the 14th could also be just there so that people on the pbe don't get confused about being unable to open it, specifically because it isn't supposed to be opened before that. And even if we do get it before, it might still be supposed to relate to the reveal of the champ, meaning that the champ would be revealed around the 14th of january and only be released at the end of january. Also just because it looks like a bat, doesn't mean it can't look asian. The design of the head looks very similar to the one of the dog head from the year of the dog https://am-a.akamaihd.net/image?f=https://news-a.akamaihd.net/public/images/articles/2018/february/lr2018-learnmore/lr2018-shard.png&resize=175: and the gold/red-colors are typical for the lunar revel.
Sukishoo (NA)
: I doubt we will be seeing another champion that soon after we literally just got two of them. I mean Sylas did come out during lunar reveal this year but that doesn't mean anything. Sett is just something relating to an event since again it's a loot asset. The "name" could just be something related to the lore of an event. It says " openable on January 14th, 2020" afterall, so it's something obviously gained before then that you will have to hold on to. Lunar revel has generally been much later in January to early Feb (usually between happening some time around Jan 25th or February 10th)
People were already doubting that we'd get Aphelios this year, yet he comes out in the next patch. Riot tends to release one big release Openable on january 14th means that the card is likely NOT received before then, because then it'd mean that people could earn a piece of loot, that they can't open, which would be really weird. Eitherway you still haven't given any explanation about what else "Sett" should refer to. It's a new name on an asian looking card, when we know that a new champ from ionia is coming. And like I said, it is possible that the champ will be revealed one patch after the card hits the live servers, so if this card comes out on january 14th, then the champ might be only revealed on january 28th, in which case he'd be released in febuary.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Why would that appear as an Asset on the PBE far before anything for the champion is even known? They generally put items on the PBE that are like this when they relate to an upcoming event. Since there is one in December...
Then what would the name Sett refer to then? I mean the name has no connection to anything else, so the most likely guess is that it refers to a new champ. Besides we had champion teasers for champs that come out on a later cycle in the past. Bards symbols started appearing on the rift before Bard was even revealed. Besides its color scheme doesn't look like the night&dawn aesthetic at all and its appearance doesn't refer to anything for that event, it looks much more like something for the lunar revel
: this is for the chinese new year event next year year of the rat so 100% a twitch skin
You know they tend to release more than just 1 skin.... Also why would they call Twitch Sett?
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