Sukishoo (NA)
: >You can also lick fire until it goes down, but it won't work. Just like banning people. People that get banned don't care about it. They play on one of their accounts that isn't banned or make another one Actually Riot has shown that most players who are Permabanned tend to leave the game. Yes, there is fraction that still come back on a new account, as they allow that, but more often than not they leave.
Then banning people doesn't work. You told it yourself. They leave the game. They don't change their behavior. They are just gone. You will be toxic too. Then you will be gone or not. Maybe you will be toxic forever. Who knows.
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FxGpAhAH,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-02T19:01:03.748+0000) > > > It is trashtalk. Toxicity is more like you motherfucking piece of shit, go kys, Bruh its toxic its not cause you think it isnt that it isnt toxic its what the communitie find toxic. And for kys thats not toxic thats more sombody with a serieus problem
Community finds everything toxic. Even if you tell them that they are just weak or even less, that they shouldn't do that. Even if you give them advice, you are toxic in their opinion. In my opinion the only bannable word should be kys and maybe some other variations of saying to somebody that he should kill himself. The rest is arguing over the game. It is actually productive when somebody tells you that you are a moron and you should do things differently. Because every person is a moron.
RallerenP (EUW)
: I don't remember who said it, but you can equate it to this: > Just because there is a fire extinguisher in my house, doesn't mean you can try to burn it down. And just because I have a 'mute' button, doesn't mean you can be toxic.
> Just because there is a fire extinguisher in my house, doesn't mean you can try to burn it down. Toxicity is about the behavior of others towards you not your behavior. You are not burning the house, somebody else does that. That is why you need that fire extinguisher. It solves the problem. You are welcome. You can also lick fire until it goes down, but it won't work. Just like banning people. People that get banned don't care about it. They play on one of their accounts that isn't banned or make another one. It doesn't solve the problem. That person will only be more toxic in the future. Jail never works and banning never works. A person that goes out of jail is not a better person. He just has one hole a little bit wider. > And just because I have a 'mute' button, doesn't mean you can be toxic. It means that I "can" be toxic. That is why you have this button.
: A person who chooses to mute flamers and avoid negativity and toxicity in an online world isn't soft and weak. They're smart. Also, just because there's an option to mute flamers, doesn't mean you can just go around and insult people like it's nothing. Let's not use the mute button as an excuse to violate the rules.
The person who mutes, yes. That person is smart. The person that goes like "i will report you", is not. He has choice to get offended or not. He gets offended. Why? There is literally no reason to take any comment about you as true, unless its true.
Verxint (NA)
: "Other people are so sensitive they need to learn to deal with this" "OMG THIS GUY ISNT DOING WHAT I WANT IN A VIDEO GAME I HAVE TO ANONYMOUSLY CALL HIM NAMES ON THE INTERNET"
If you cannot do that in a video game, then where can you do that? Games are meant to be fun? Am I wrong? Did I miss something? Why do you care if somebody is calling you names. Why would anybody care. Let them think whatever they want to think. That is what freedom looks like. You have all kinds of people. Some are just like me. I will tell you IRL that you look fat and are ugly as fuck. You will care about my words. But if you call me names I will be like "whatever, i know that already".
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FxGpAhAH,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-02-01T19:55:10.406+0000) > > Would make sense, if only anybody had fun in this game. > talk about your self i enjoy the game as long as no one is toxic as hell
I can talk about my self. My self is gud.
: So what, we shouldn't strive for a better community and punish those who completely disregard others? If a person is banned is it not because they decided to put others down repeatedly and then still continue to not try and better their own behavior? They have already gone through chat restriction and several other bans at that point so would you not say they deserve to be kicked out if they refuse to change their behavior?
You don't understand do you? People that get banned don't give a single fuck if they get banned. We have several accounts and we can create another one easily. Getting to the same elo is easy, because if you once hit it, you will always hit it. And we don't pay for this game. Where is a loss here? Who needs that account?
: you can try to be toxic in real life too but dont wonder when ppl kick your from their places and/or hate you and avoid you completely also i prefer playing with ppl who use the chat box for strategy or asking for one not a guy yelling at ppl because he cant handle his anger in a god damn game
> you can try to be toxic in real life too Already am. People love it. More than loving a random default character who can only be nice. You need to be humanish, not nice. Real, likeable and different from others. Also I have a nice ass. That might also be a reason why they like me.
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FxGpAhAH,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-01T16:56:37.764+0000) > > I mean. You can mute people, but you prefer them to be banned pernamently from the game, because they hurt your very very soft heart. Toxicity is everywhere. In real life too. Deal with it. Or maybe we should kill all the toxic people? Bear in mind that you will also be toxic at some point. Aye, you are just too alpha... in an anonymous free to play online video game.... Or maybe people don't want to spend their free time conversing with asshats. Or you can con't to think you are the baddest boy at the internet cafe, either way might want to shape up or lose the account.
And if i lose my account or 6 of them, so what? I can make another one. You really don't get it do you. Toxic people won't change and you will never get rid of them. And I am beta, I wish that you meet alpha in your life. It will change both your fate and your face.
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FxGpAhAH,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-01T16:56:37.764+0000) > > I mean. You can mute people, but you prefer them to be banned pernamently from the game, because they hurt your very very soft heart. Toxicity is everywhere. In real life too. Deal with it. Or maybe we should kill all the toxic people? Bear in mind that you will also be toxic at some point. As a person do you consider yourself soft and weak?
Well. I don't care if somebody calls me names? You do.
Xidphel (NA)
: I have a fire extinguisher, but I prefer arsonists to be jailed.
Did u ever EVER seen an arsonist that was jailed before he burned something down? ...? No you fucking didn't.
: I'm sorry your real life sucks that much.
Your too. You are a human being. I just asumed that. Maybe you are an alien. Sorry.
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Snowbrand (EUW)
: Never again a Yasuo in my ranked game!
The worst feeling is when he is in your team tho.
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FxGpAhAH,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-02-01T19:55:10.406+0000) > > Would make sense, if only anybody had fun in this game. You may not but I and many others sure do. > The second example. No. How can we even talk about verbal abuse, when you have mute button. There is no verbal abuse in League. There are only people that don't use mute button. Because verbal means that you use words, they cannot use words when they are muted. If you feel offended because of some comment, then that comment must have been true at least partially. Unless you mute all at the start the only way to know if someone is being verbally abusive is to wait until they've actually started being verbally abusive. Besides the mute button =/= a get out of jail free card and is meant to be a band-aid solution at most. > Simply put, Riot is wrong. But their home their rules. They don't work but what can i do? I'd say they do, but feel free to enlighten me on how you feel they don't. > Society and world aren't fair. It is survival of the fittest. If you are not fit, then get out of here. You cannot handle words, so what can you handle? Life is cruel, reality is cruel and people are cruel. If you cannot adjust you cannot survive. We live in a world with little to no wars, that is why weaklings are born. People never felt any hardships and cannot cope with it. The same could be said about those who are unable or unwilling to stop insulting and harassing others the moment things don't go their way. If they don't want to adapt to an environment that doesn't support abusing and harassing others then they're in for a rude awakening, and if that's the case then it begs the question who the real weaklings are: the ones who won't tolerate abuse and harassment or the ones who feel the need to lash out at others when things don't go their ways?
Ok. Will enlighten you. They don't work because people that int don't get banned. Only those that say stupid shit. The example might be my 20+ games inting streak in S8. "But it is only a bad game" 20 bad games. Feel free to show me how it works. People will not get less toxic, just because you ban them. Before S8 I didn't get even a chat ban. In S8 I was perma banned and had 3 chat bans. I had 4 clean seasons. What changed so suddenly? The game. It is a shithole of bullshittery right now. There are not enough champion bans in the ban phase to get rid of bullshit anymore. Permaban was for kys btw. Not for ruining 20 games. Because it was on different accounts. Tell me how people are enjoying this game, when in 4 seasons i didn't get a single kys, but in this one i get it many times. People don't enjoy the game. You might. Ask people in your games what they think about the game (if they will talk, because people are fucking scared of bans). League community doesn't hate toxicity. They just like to pretend that they hate it. Because then they feel incusive and included. You are mistaking two things. How reality should look like and how it actually looks.
Jo0o (NA)
: If one of my teammates flames another enough to tilt the other teammate to the point of hurting their performance, exactly what the fuck does a mute function do for me?
You should carry solo. That is why its soloq. Every game is carrable solo. Just stop fucking around.
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FxGpAhAH,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-02-01T19:55:10.406+0000) > > Would make sense, if only anybody had fun in this game. You may not but I and many others sure do. > The second example. No. How can we even talk about verbal abuse, when you have mute button. There is no verbal abuse in League. There are only people that don't use mute button. Because verbal means that you use words, they cannot use words when they are muted. If you feel offended because of some comment, then that comment must have been true at least partially. Unless you mute all at the start the only way to know if someone is being verbally abusive is to wait until they've actually started being verbally abusive. Besides the mute button =/= a get out of jail free card and is meant to be a band-aid solution at most. > Simply put, Riot is wrong. But their home their rules. They don't work but what can i do? I'd say they do, but feel free to enlighten me on how you feel they don't. > Society and world aren't fair. It is survival of the fittest. If you are not fit, then get out of here. You cannot handle words, so what can you handle? Life is cruel, reality is cruel and people are cruel. If you cannot adjust you cannot survive. We live in a world with little to no wars, that is why weaklings are born. People never felt any hardships and cannot cope with it. The same could be said about those who are unable or unwilling to stop insulting and harassing others the moment things don't go their way. If they don't want to adapt to an environment that doesn't support abusing and harassing others then they're in for a rude awakening, and if that's the case then it begs the question who the real weaklings are: the ones who won't tolerate abuse and harassment or the ones who feel the need to lash out at others when things don't go their ways?
Ok. Will enlighten you. They don't work because people that int don't get banned. Only those that say stupid shit. The example might be my 20+ games inting streak in S8. "But it is only a bad game" 20 bad games. Feel free to show me how it works. People will not get less toxic, just because you ban them. Before S8 I didn't get even a chat ban. In S8 I was perma banned and had 3 chat bans. I had 4 clean seasons. What changed so suddenly? The game. It is a shithole of bullshittery right now. There are not enough champion bans in the ban phase to get rid of bullshit anymore. Permaban was for kys btw. Not for ruining 20 games. Because it was on different accounts. Tell me how people are enjoying this game, when in 4 seasons i didn't get a single kys, but in this one i get it many times. People don't enjoy the game. You might. Ask people in your games what they think about the game (if they will talk, because people are fucking scared of bans). League community doesn't hate toxicity. They just like to pretend that they hate it. Because then they feel incusive and included.
Prandine (NA)
: To quote [Chermorg]( https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/sWcqeM6R-good-job-player-support?comment=0000000000000000000000000000): > It being the internet doesn’t change the fact this is a game people play to enjoy, not to be flamed for every little tiny mistake. From [Ulanopo’s Knowledge Base](http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=43465401#post43465401): >**“People who report are simply being oversensitive. The mute button exists for a reason.”** >Let’s start with the Riot quote on this (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30696571#post30696571)): >_**Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter?**_ _Players shouldn’t need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player._ >Simply put, Riot says no. You can scream and cry all you want, but it is their house and their rules. >With that out of the way, I think the topic deserves some further discussion. The theory is that, if people resolved to care less, then they would be happier. I often refer to this as ”Argument from Stoicism” and I think it is a fairly weak philosophy because it places the burden on the person being expected to endure the behavior rather than the person exhibiting the behavior. “You should be able to handle it” is just a flimsy excuse for being a bully or a jerk. I have to be the bigger man so that you can do whatever you want? That hardly seems fair. >There is also the issue of how I spend my limited free time. Like most people, I am constantly required to make value judgments between the different forms of entertainment that are available to me and, let's be honest, we live in an age of nearly limitless entertainment options. If I'm having a bad day in League, I can just fire up Steam and play a whole bunch of games that don't require me to put up with someone's BS. >This is not an issue of weakness or thin-skin; it's a question of choosing activities that don't leave me feeling frustrated and angry. Too many of those experiences and I'll just find something else to do. Riot knows this.
> It being the internet doesn’t change the fact this is a game people play to enjoy, not to be flamed for every little tiny mistake. Would make sense, if only anybody had fun in this game. The second example. No. How can we even talk about verbal abuse, when you have mute button. There is no verbal abuse in League. There are only people that don't use mute button. Because verbal means that you use words, they cannot use words when they are muted. If you feel offended because of some comment, then that comment must have been true at least partially. > Simply put, Riot says no. You can scream and cry all you want, but it is their house and their rules. Simply put, Riot is wrong. But their home their rules. They don't work but what can i do? > With that out of the way, I think the topic deserves some further discussion. The theory is that, if people resolved to care less, then they would be happier. I often refer to this as ”Argument from Stoicism” and I think it is a fairly weak philosophy because it places the burden on the person being expected to endure the behavior rather than the person exhibiting the behavior. “You should be able to handle it” is just a flimsy excuse for being a bully or a jerk. I have to be the bigger man so that you can do whatever you want? That hardly seems fair. Society and world aren't fair. It is survival of the fittest. If you are not fit, then get out of here. You cannot handle words, so what can you handle? Life is cruel, reality is cruel and people are cruel. If you cannot adjust you cannot survive. We live in a world with little to no wars, that is why weaklings are born. People never felt any hardships and cannot cope with it.
Bârd (NA)
: Riot, if you want money, there are a lot of things we'd be willing to buy...
Rioter Comments
: Can't just /muteall every. single. game
You can. And you should. But maybe not muteall, maybe mute the dumbass that is screaming at ya.
Kei143 (NA)
: Low level is a known pocket of toxicity. You have the people whom were banned due to toxicity and they are creating alt accounts to continue playing. They don't learn and continue their toxic ways. Typically you'll see less of them once you hit lvl 25 or so, as many of them will be banned again.
: The best way? Don't become one of them.
You will eventually become one of them. It is inevitable. You might as well ban all players before they get banned eventually. Mute button exists. Actually 3 mute buttons. Just use it.
: > [{quoted}](name=aunknuckles26,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3FMvjjRb,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-01-31T03:22:22.506+0000) > > im learning that this game is just full of raging 13 or something or it bring out an inner evil. im starting to hate this and just humans Seriously quit before it's too late. It gets to you overtime and the game isn't worth it
: You can't really avoid them, and if you play long enough, you almost inevitably will become one of them. My advice? Get out before you get hooked on the game. Life will be much more enjoyable that way.
Or you can just, idk, mute them? You have 3 types of muting. That is a lot. This guy won't even be able to ping you or spam emotes. Wtf more do you want.
: because of people like me! not a great way to start any sort of point. lol
There are wrong arguments and right arguments. I don't care if i hurt somebody's feelings as long as i am right. The cause of this mess is that people are too soft. Grow up a pair of balls. Words don't hurt people and mute button exists. Toxic people exist. Even in real life. Deal with it.
: > [{quoted}](name=HÔPÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3FMvjjRb,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-31T15:29:00.281+0000) > > Mute them, because of people like you those toxic players get banned. They shouldn't. Toxicity is a gold of this game. I love it. Toxic people keep this boring ass game somewhat bearable. If you take toxicity seriously and you don't laugh when it happens, then something is wrong with you, not with that toxic or rather emotional person. You're weird lol and rather irrational.
Irrational is wanting somebody to get thrown out of the game pernamently because he hurt your very very soft heart. Mute button exists, use it.
: Why do people blame riot for their mistakes?
Because banning is bullshit. You have a mute button. You can use it. There is no reason to ban a person that trashtalks.
: kinda new noticed this game has a super toxic community. how do i avoid these players
Mute them, because of people like you those toxic players get banned. They shouldn't. Toxicity is a gold of this game. I love it. Toxic people keep this boring ass game somewhat bearable. If you take toxicity seriously and you don't laugh when it happens, then something is wrong with you, not with that toxic or rather emotional person.
: If you're actually a piece of shit to play with consistently you should be banned. I've seen a lot of stupid chat bans recently however.
Mute button exists. Nobody deserves a ban for talking shit is a video game. Its a fucking game. People who play Smash trashtalk. People who play any other MOBA trashtalk. In every game people trashtalk. But in League we get banned for that, but we have a great button, mute button. You can mute that person and ... you will never have to talk with him anymore. Wtf is wrong with people. Talking shouldn't be bannable.
: If you get that angry at people over a video game to the point you need to be abusive towards them, maybe you shouldnt be playing that game. just saying.
You have a mute button, people have to get banned, because you are too lazy to push the button. I would argue who is really an ass here.
Rioter Comments
: it's better not talking/muting then spreading/receiving toxicity, community will Never change and let's say 8/10 games will have many reasons to mute chat/not talk. Why even waste time typing to dummies anyways, chatting with toxic psychopaths will bring you more frustration then ''strategic ways'' to win a game, it's not even close to being worth it.
There are no strategic ways of winning, when you play in a damage meta. There is only Damage. Convert to the only true religion. Damage is everything. I love those psychopaths. They at least keep this boring ass game interesting enough to not uninstal it. Without them I would be gone long time ago.
Seenan (NA)
: Isn't it still solo+duoQ?
It is. Not to mention that combining solo and duo is the worst idea.
: yes riot wants to ruin the game and lose money and go out of business. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
My point is they have one game to balance and they can't even do that properly.
: Hanlon's Razor. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
saltran (EUW)
: >Is Riot killing the game on purpose? No
Then it is just because they are fucking stupid?
: No. For one, that would require the game actually being killed lmao. Games naturally decline over time after their big hype is gone. "Dying" and "declining to a more normal number" are not the same thing. And you're making the same mistake every conspiracy theory makes - there's no actual way to attribute malice to it. You're saying they're intentionally doing something that there's no real reason for them to do. And you're trying to claim that the things they did recently were bad...Which isn't objectively true. That, simply put, is your **opinion**.
Hahhahaa, yes objectively not ture xd So assassin as a support is just a normal thing. Getting shield from an ult that oneshots and cc's people as well, just normal. Maybe a jungler being on the same level as support is normal too? Or maybe even damage in this meta is normal? Maybe implementing big changes, not in preseason, but at the start of a new season is also normal? Maybe changing the whole ranked system during a season is also normal? Maybe those weird mmr drops are also normal? Maybe true damage is normal? I play this game for over 5 years. It might be just my opinion, but it is still valid. This game is getting worse and worse and I fucking hate it, because I loved this game so much. Right now balance has been thrown out the window.
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Moody P (NA)
: Carries do not belong in the jungle
Safest? Are you low elo? Jungle is the least safe. Any laner can just walk in there and kill you, they are just too dumb to do that and they don't ward enemy jng. Jng supportive role? Since when? Kha zix is support? Rengar too? Shaco? Kayn? There is only one supportive champion in jng, maybe two if counting Nedalee. Jungle is suppoused to carry. Laners should play around their jungler and help him in every situation he is in. That is how League works. Ganking wasn't the main priority of jng, it was farming jungle camps, but Riot forgot about that and now we have a shitshow with lvl 2 ganks and junglers with 3/0 at the same level as support. Nerfing exp is incorrect. They should nerf what makes jng so powerful, which is ... ganking. Lvl gankers were never this strong. Like, i am doing lvl 2 every single game, getting first kill and carrying solo. Because that nerf was bad. Junglers have enough influence over the match with objectives, but Riot wants us to gank 24/7. If they nerfed ganking and buffed farming, we would have to stay in jng. However faming is useless now and we have to babysit every single game. League 2019, one jungler babysits bot, the other top. Nobody has fun. And yes, skirmisher's saber was strong, but now is useless, as well as stalker's blade. Why do they even exist, they do almost nothing now.
: The first priority of the balance team is to keep the meta fresh and fun. Their goal is not 100% balance. Deal with it.
Then they fail with both fresh and fun xd Also "balance" means something different than manipulating meta.
Rioter Comments
: Vote for Riot in next election!
I would love Riot to have at least a little bit of interaction with the community.
: This damage is ridiculous
The game is braindead now. It feel like I don't have to outplay or outsmart anybody. I just need to press buttons on the right target and oneshot.
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: Who are you testing these jungle changes with
Idk who is testing this shit, but holy fuck, they are bad. They nerfed jungle several times and all those nerfs were incorrect. They had preseason to fucking rework jungle, but they didn't do anything.
: Basically, what I see everytime I play League
I am actually Plankton in every fucking match xd
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Idk why people complain about the client
hahahahaha, I had worse things, this client is trash
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