: This is one of Riot's problems. They're obsessed with win rate and keeping everyone near 50%, such that they don't consider balance per MMR tier. At lower MMR, Fizz is already a force to be reckoned with. To give him this kind of survival mechanism so that he's relevant at higher tiers makes him DESTROY lower tiers.
With mechanics like these he'd dominate high tiers just as easily. He isn't even a braindead champ and in fact has tons of outplay potential.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T2cBYYEL,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-11T20:25:51.856+0000) > > That isn't half as much the players in the official areas. Iirc even LoL Japan had more players. > > With 60k players you find yourself facing the same played every second match lmao. And that's in low elo such as bronze silver. In higher elo if you haven't played two matches without a common player, you're probably playing off Garena. I played on NA server in SIngapore. Garena supported league is not even a game.
Those fuckers had a slow af client for a reason. Besides their ping goes up every month. I used to get a ping of around 50 around half a year ago and get somewhere around 100 these days. No reason to play there.
Hordes66 (NA)
: Its true because more people are getting filled to jg. More people are getting filled to jg because the dev team at Riot makes bad decisions (Ahri is getting another charm buff ya'll).
I absolutely loathe playing against Ahri. She's broken regardless of what people say, and there's no way you're beating an Ahri who decides to sit under turret and farm with range every time she misses a charm and it goes off cooldown.
: I don't jungle. I've never liked the entire concept of a "dedicated jungler role". To me, buffs are for those who need them in lane and they tend to be wasted when all a jungler does early is farm. Personally, I play marauder. Take Kleptomancy and move speed and sprint from lane to lane, smacking champions and getting levels here and there. Works far better than jungle ever does.
I don't understand why people in LoL follow a meta so damn stubborn to the point doing anything else is seen as trolling. Adding a dedicated jungler adds to the mess as they usually have no other way to gain exp which causes a jungler with poor decision making throw games away just by playing in his/her regular manner.
: It doesn't help that Jungle is the least-populated and therefore most-autofilled role. Test it out, queue up for a game as Mid, see how long the queue takes, and decline, then queue up as Jungle, and you're looking at less than a 30 second wait in most cases. I'm betting some players are even willing to queue as jungle and bet on the coinflip just so they can spam more games, like that will actually benefit them in some way.
I think I can one up you on that. I've been trying to find a jungler to duo with on League's Discord since last night and can't find one. Support players pour by the dozens the moment you as for one to join you in the next match.
: I don't know if they are any worse than before but it does indeed feel like it. Junglers have always been generally speaking pretty clueless. Mostly junglers tend to fuck up by either not respecting lane priority or by being snowflakes and any type of criticism they receive will make them intentionally lose you the game because they think they are the main character in an anime or some shit and they are flawless. They also often do not know the win conditions, making them gank wrong lanes and refusing to help the lane that is actually the win condition. I know you are currently in the low skill tiers but it literally doesn't change even if you get higher.
Thanks. I realize this because I used ti play jungle. I tried playing jungle again today while I was autofilled and ended up having the best score as Vi. I am very surprised by how most junglers are so clueless. Also most junglers who get flamed are actually bad as a good jungler hardly ever gets flamed. I personally hardly ever used to get flamed as a jungler except on those obvious bad days where I'd fuck up. I would play more of jungle but I don't the meta jungle roster you have today and I can't take a liking to most successful jungle champions. If not for that I'd probably play the role myself.
Pyrosan (NA)
: It's not that they're doing worse it's just that when you're behind in the jungle now you cannot come back into your JG Lane losing? You've lost that part of your JG eg; Gromp if bot is losing, Krugs if top is losing You died? All your JG is gone and you just have to eat shit and gank
Well it is the stupid decisions which cause them to fall behind. Invading while their own camps exist, Not ganking top lane despite the top laner freezeing the wave, Ganking bot because the 'dragon is important' but taking no dragons, and the worst of the lot, The afk farmer who isn't playing either of Karthus or Nasus. These things existed in the past season but such mistakes are punished way harder in s9.
: Jungle is by far the hardest role for decision making. It isnt that the skill is much lower but that difference in skill shows alot more than in other lanes.
It is true, and that probably goes two fold with how easy it is to fall behind as a jungler these days.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EOMj3yz1,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-14T15:41:33.389+0000) > > You can hide it, silly. > > I see this post every month, when such threads have already been answered in the past and are only a Google search away. Hide the rune pages and you won't see them again. > > https://i.imgur.com/tTsO0o5.png It's not about seeing them, like at all. It's about the game switching to one of the presets, which happens whether they're hidden or not. Stop saying this on every thread, this isn't the issue.
It won't switch to a preset when you hide it. Literally. I've never had it switch after I chose to hid the extra pages.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: But this scenario doesn't occur only with akali.. {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:55}} all of these become uncontrollable "clusterfucks" whenever they get really fed early like that. I mean, i agree that these type of things shouldn't happen, but they occur and will continue to occur nonetheless...
{{champion:103}}, {{champion:105}}, {{champion:131}}, {{champion:245}}, {{champion:134}}, {{champion:99}}, and the remaining 90% of the midlane roster fits the bill.
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nAcERtcq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:07:22.651+0000) > > There's literally an entire front page post in the 'hot' section ranting about it. > > Including a popular Katarina main who claims that Katarina is a natural win over Talon and Yasuo in a matchup. kata does beat talon pretty easily. just saying. i mean i don't even do that barrier thing and get on by with a d-shield and some cloth armor, i think he's going overkill with the barrier but i guess the game changes a little the higher you go. will try teh barrier if i bother to play some kata again, currently enamored with qiqi and irelia keeps on giving on the fun factor, so yolo. allegedly shrekko can't even get a look in currently, gotdamn. as for yasuo, it is a skill matchup at all elo's likely. if you're the better player you win, simple as, and you win hard. there are various solutions each champion has for the other so it's a fun matchup if you're the better of the two players, no doubt. i can't speak for the kata vs akali matchup cause i wouldn't opt into that matchup as kata, but the guy has forwarded actual mechanical solutions, i'm just not consistent enough with those solutions and he is, and the champion is somewhat unplayable if you play her enough to be consistent with her elegant mechanical solutions for all plays she can be presented with. does she have hard counters? yeah, but even morde has hard counters right now so what value is that argument?
Jacadi (EUW)
: If u had read the topic about kata like a "low elo stomper", u would have seen that the complaints are rather based on high elo statistics...
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nAcERtcq,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:19:04.834+0000) > > In Masters Aurelion Sol is #1 in terms of rankings, but the day we nerf him we'd hear a lot of people calling Riot braindead monkeys. > > Of course his pick rate is far lower, but if the winrates are what you're going by then that's something to consider. > > Again, in Grandmasters Katarina falls down to the 14th place, ironically while she's only 10th place in challenger. Why are we only looking at Diamond in this case? Did I say Masters? No? I said D+, below everyone barely knows how to play League.
I don't know why you specifically pick diamond to cherry pick your argument, but I am sure we could play this game all day.
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nAcERtcq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T21:07:22.651+0000) > > There's literally an entire front page post in the 'hot' section ranting about it. > > Including a popular Katarina main who claims that Katarina is a natural win over Talon and Yasuo in a matchup. Because in D+ (the only thing you should look at concerning Champion Balance) she has a 52.94% WR. That's place number 4 in rankings.
In Masters Aurelion Sol is #1 in terms of rankings, but the day we nerf him we'd hear a lot of people calling Riot braindead monkeys. Of course his pick rate is far lower, but if the winrates are what you're going by then that's something to consider. Again, in Grandmasters Katarina falls down to the 14th place, ironically while she's only 10th place in challenger. Why are we only looking at Diamond in this case?
: You saying Ahri is frustrating to play against? I rather play against Ahri over any assassin.
That really depends on who you're playing. I hate playing against Ahri due to how safe her kit is. It's either miss a charm and farm safely under turret and try again later, or land a charm and take away 3/4th the lifebar on anyone. In fact that's the basic trend with mages but I wouldn't say she's overpowered. Just very annoying to play against.
Zardo (NA)
: Who is saying kat is OP?
There's literally an entire front page post in the 'hot' section ranting about it. Including a popular Katarina main who claims that Katarina is a natural win over Talon and Yasuo in a matchup.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=0012000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T19:02:18.175+0000) > > Zed has easier access to mobility. > > He can also jump walls with his shadows. They both have a ton of mobility but they are still different types of abilities when compared. For one Kata's E can go through anything while Zed's shadow has a far larger range and allows him to cross terrains. > > It's arguable who has the better mobility as they serve different niches. Zed still doesn't have resets. And for that matter, Kata can go over walls too. Her Shunpo is targeted so as long as she can see the person, I fail to see why she would arbitrarily not be able to blink to them. Regardless, the delays are there for good reason and make her far less of a pub stomp champion than she used to be. There are literally videos of people smashing the keyboard and getting double and triple kills with old Kata. I would *not* want to see that again.
That's not what I refer to. Kata cannot escape somebody such as let's say Garen as easily as Zed can by jumping over the dragon's pit, but she has a far easier time avoiding Veigar's cage through her dash for example. Zed doesn't need a target while Kata does. Zed and Kata's mobility have their advantages each but Kata's isn't really best except when in combat. Zed's is generally better until you're in a groupfight. Old Kata was busted af.
: She *was* a low elo stomper... pre rework. Now she's a very complicated and interesting champion... who is actually too strong at higher elos because her mobility is insane. I don't feel like she needs to be nerfed but I also don't think she should be buffed like many *many* of her mains feels. Many of them want to remove the actual counterplay she has in the form of her delays. :/
As a Katarina main, I would prefer they nerfed gunblade and moved some of it's power into her kit. But considering it's Riot, they may just break so lol, let's just leave her in her current state.
: Having a champion with a steep learning curve like Kat is not a good excuse to overtune them. The incentive to playing a highly skilled champ is to just get better at the game.
Yeah, let's recommend new player to pick Kata over Garen to get better at the game.
: people call katarina a "low elo stomper"
I don't understand how this rant of a post has over 20 upvotes in 11 hours when even posts complaining about Riven don't gain so much of attention in such a short time span. Get off your votebot to push your agenda. People cannot possible be crying over this at such a high rate, and that includes comments from deep below which agree with you having tons of upvotes.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: Her number of games is low, which means 2 things: 1. She's played mostly by mains and one tricks 2. She's picked into favorable match-ups If I was a Kat main, I wouldn't pick her when the enemy teams looks like this: Croc boots top, Skarner jg, Alistar support and Talon mid, but I would pick her when it looks like Ryze top, Yi jg, Zed mid and Lux support. Basically, her winrate is a tad inflated.
This is exactly the type of argument people miss out on here. Katarina does amazing against shit team comps. And even in masters you don't decide what your teammates pick. Katarina does shit in any team which has a tank and more than a single champ with CC.
: > [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hyRvBTPE,comment-id=00120000,timestamp=2019-07-15T15:14:12.338+0000) > > To be perfectly honest - it would take a kat like a good couple of seconds to output her entire damage, mostly because her daggers take 1.5 seconds to fall.... where rengar or zed can do their entire damage within 0.3 seconds and 0.8 seconds respectively Rengar and Zed also have less mobility than Kat and don't reset and also don't do massive AoE damage to everyone in a radius around them. :)
Zed has easier access to mobility. He can also jump walls with his shadows. They both have a ton of mobility but they are still different types of abilities when compared. For one Kata's E can go through anything while Zed's shadow has a far larger range and allows him to cross terrains. It's arguable who has the better mobility as they serve different niches.
: people call katarina a "low elo stomper"
What's up with this upvote bot? If you guys are having trouble against Katarina in 2019 then there's a problem with you'll. These must be the same people who complain about Fiora being OP, and cry about how Darius have no counterplay. Like literally any form of magic resist shuts Katarina down, and her pick rate justifies her winrate. Not to mention the counterplay she has. Her laning phase is shit and she loses to pretty much every popular midlaner. I can name em here. {{champion:157}}, {{champion:238}}, {{champion:105}}, {{champion:7}}, {{champion:131}}, {{champion:245}}, {{champion:90}}, {{champion:91}}, {{champion:131}} and a lot more. She's amazing outside the laning phase but is again shut down the moment one of your teammates buy MR and hit her with CC. Ironically her winrate is only around 50% in low elo which means you will rarely come across a skilled Katarina under gold.
Ieafboom (NA)
: I find the reason for toxicity is because it's frustrating to lose because of your teammates when playing ranked. You have to spend an additional 3 hours in order to get to the place you were originally supposed to be at if you had a top/jg/mid/bot/whatever that didn't have a bad game. 2x Losses due to feeding lanes turns into 6 hours, and instead of starting at Noon and winning one game to climb the ladder, you end up spending your next 6 hours of playtime fighting to get back to square one, with every single game be unstable bridge that can result in another loss adding +3 hours to playtime to get back to the same exact rank. Gets frustrating after awhile
> [{quoted}](name=Ieafboom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=j9EMyEU6,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-07-15T08:33:29.783+0000) > > I find the reason for toxicity is because it's frustrating to lose because of your teammates when playing ranked. > > You have to spend an additional 3 hours in order to get to the place you were originally supposed to be at if you had a top/jg/mid/bot/whatever that didn't have a bad game. 2x Losses due to feeding lanes turns into 6 hours, and instead of starting at Noon and winning one game to climb the ladder, you end up spending your next 6 hours of playtime fighting to get back to square one, with every single game be unstable bridge that can result in another loss adding +3 hours to playtime to get back to the same exact rank. > > Gets frustrating after awhile Tell that to the bot laners who either hard carry games or feed their ass off, and the league of autofilled junglers who play like it's their time playing League.
Exin0 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=292drrqz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-14T19:56:12.517+0000) > > nerfs dont fix the fundamental problem league has in melee vs. range matchups. > > melee champions need ways to answer this kind of ranged poke, so these lanes can become more than "can i interact as little with my opponent as possible until my jungler may or may not show up?" its not fundamental problem its core of rock paper scissors balance. Honestly what do you want from riot to do? Nerf every ranged champion 2 feet under? Give every melee champions tools to easily deal with ranged opponent? First will kill half of the game second will create unkilable, unpokable, unkitable terminators and all ranged chapions will be f...d because ther will be countered by everyone (by assassins, by divers, by fighters, by jugg, etc.), great changes if you want kill off this game.
What is this rock paper scissors you talk about? If Melees are the rock, and ranged are the paper, who is the scissor? Assassins? Honestly, the only assassins who can beat ranged units reliably is Zed. The others only do incredibly well against marks men and die the moment they get stunlocked by mages who are also ranged units.
: > [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleepier,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=292drrqz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T19:54:17.557+0000) > > Vayne eh, but Teemo is definitely hiding under Riot's radar somehow. > > I was so hoping the Teemo ~~gutting~~ rework was gonna go through. You do know Teemo is the last straw to veteran players? He is the mascot of league of legends gutting him will literally kill league quicker than anything you've seen.
Pretty sure most people would recognize either of Ryze, Ahri, or Katarina instead. Teemo has never been a mascot more than those three.
: What are the 10 hardest skillshots to land?
Warwick's ultimate. That shit never hits.
: For the love of god, please allow us to delete preset rune pages
You can hide it, silly. I see this post every month, when such threads have already been answered in the past and are only a Google search away. Hide the rune pages and you won't see them again. https://i.imgur.com/tTsO0o5.png
: I never said they were easy to play, I simply said they are good at snowballing games. At no point did I say they were at the same level, you make it sound like a new player could pick yp renekton and first game beat a 2 mil mastery fiora definitely. Counterplay doesnt mean weakness, it just means it has a more complex kit and usually means it can be a much bigger carry. Its 2019 and people still cant understand eachother due to ignorance. I do not understand how
Well I could and I have. I play Fiora, and under 10 matches on Renekton I've stomped any Fiora I've come across. But the boards cry out of their panties like they're dying against a champ with plenty counterplay.
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oPBWFc3E,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-11T22:49:08.702+0000) > > A title like that, and nobody is complaining of sexualization. > > Imagine if we were talking about a female champion {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}. I wanna get into ALL of them in that case.
I don't wanna get into Irelia, Riven, or Ahri. Aids af.
: I want to get into Kayn
A title like that, and nobody is complaining of sexualization. Imagine if we were talking about a female champion {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}.
Kazekiba (NA)
: 60k is still a good number of people. I play MMOs with fewer people + 5 servers (Korea, China, and Japan have independent servers)
That isn't half as much the players in the official areas. Iirc even LoL Japan had more players. With 60k players you find yourself facing the same played every second match lmao. And that's in low elo such as bronze silver. In higher elo if you haven't played two matches without a common player, you're probably playing off Garena.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=T2cBYYEL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-11T19:20:40.981+0000) > > What laws are you talking about? > > Literally most other games have a server here. Dota, CS, and a ton of other games. Why would the law make an exception for LoL? It is very difficult for a foreign company to host a server in areas like china. You generally need a chinese company to do so.
I don't live in China and China already has servers which require a different client. For countries such as India, Sinagpore, and Malaysia, we don't have a real server. The Garena system sucks ass and is unbearable to play on.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Likely never, given laws in the area would make it difficult for riot to host a server there themselves anyway.
What laws are you talking about? Literally most other games have a server here. Dota, CS, and a ton of other games. Why would the law make an exception for LoL?
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MEIesELH,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-07-11T18:59:21.035+0000) > > Honestly, I've seen more Katarina x Lux hentai than her with Sylas. > > I do not understand what you're talking about. You spelled Garen wrong
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MEIesELH,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-07-11T19:07:52.852+0000) > > You spelled Garen wrong No, I know what I've said.
: Lux and Sylas
Honestly, I've seen more Katarina x Lux hentai than her with Sylas. I do not understand what you're talking about.
Rioter Comments
: Best way to win is making the enemy ragequit Turns out...a certain few champions {{champion:114}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:39}} are very good at waiting in the brush between the enemies inner and outer turret where jayce so happens to be passing through, it also turns out jayce can die very easily to those said champions, which can then wait in the bush for him to arrive again I managed to kill sla jayce as he was walking back to lane 4 times in a row He ragequit
Stop mentioning Fiora and Irelia like they're at the same level as Renekton. Both of them have far more counterplay then the croc, and especially Riven. Fiora in fact even takes skill to play while the other three are facerolls. It's 2019 and you guys are still struggling against Fiora. I do not understand how.
: [Spoilers] Lux: Issue Nr. 3 - Feedback, Discussion and Questions
I don't read many comics. I just don't like the inconsistency most series have and am avid novel reader instead. But the more I give this comic a try, the more I take a liking to Noxus. It isn't the topic of the conversation I am aware, but Demacians seem like ignorant whiny bitches at this point really. Like they've used Petricite for ages but their conservative mentality prevented them from even finding our what the Petricite really did? Amazing. Also, just how nutritious are Demacian prison rats?
usul1202 (NA)
: I'm sure there's an *ice* community for you somewhere out there.
He must watch a lot of Frozen.
: Pool Party Anivia. She is the pool.
You must love fitting so many guys into her.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=HarveyiKfAbQ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=i7GJ53Yt,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-28T00:32:50.322+0000) > > It's a pity people love generic shounen so much. The setting is, but the characters and plots are okay and have good ideas here and there. After all, how generic can a series be when your main protagonist is a midget who is calm and level-headed and is already insanely strong, in a team that was not built over the course of the story given it was already built way before the story started and the story starts with them reuniting with each other, which the said team has characters who are also already super strong with a couple so strong they're possibly already the strongest introduced so far (though one of them work on conditions, but in the most favourable condition the guy is by definition, literally invincible)? If the generic shounen's idea is to "get strong", which is how many people see it, then Nanatsu no Taizai at least flips that on its head given the story rarely have to do with getting stronger since the main characters are already extremely strong and a few of them obscenely so.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=i7GJ53Yt,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-28T00:46:02.954+0000) > > The setting is, but the characters and plots are okay and have good ideas here and there. > > After all, how generic can a series be when your main protagonist is a midget who is calm and level-headed and is already insanely strong, in a team that was not built over the course of the story given it was already built way before the story started and the story starts with them reuniting with each other, which the said team has characters who are also already super strong with a couple so strong they're possibly already the strongest introduced so far (though one of them work on conditions, but in the most favourable condition the guy is by definition, literally invincible)? > > If the generic shounen's idea is to "get strong", which is how many people see it, then Nanatsu no Taizai at least flips that on its head given the story rarely have to do with getting stronger since the main characters are already extremely strong and a few of them obscenely so. I understand what you're trying to say but such shounen only revolve around heavy plot power and linear power scaling which makes things spiral out of control every single time. I would much prefer a shonen power scaling like One Piece or Jojo's (which may not be shounen) when compared to the way most generic shounen is handled.
: Nanatsu no taizai is trash
It's a pity people love generic shounen so much.
: is a shame the company has lost 700 mill in revenue.
They deserve it to be honest and I couldn't care less about whether they go broke at this point. Hopefully they will sell LoL out to a different company when that happens.

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