Kei143 (NA)
: You still aren't separating the unskilled and the trolls. You are describing the trolls in your post, which they should get punished. Don't clump the people that are bad at the game with people whom have bad attitudes to the game. They aren't the same. If you want to see people with better skills, climb and you'll see people whom are better. But you'll still get people with bad attitudes when you climb up. In fact, you'll probably get more people with attitude problems as you climb higher.
gee, how can i rep trolls if there is no such categories? griefing isnt trolling, feeding too, so trolling is now means being a negative one? lol > But you'll still get people with bad attitudes when you climb up. In fact, you'll probably get more people with attitude problems as you climb higher. thank you, Mr. obvious can you jsut get my point? ok? I always do things for winning my team don't even do by quarter- thats all i wanna say, and if they dont do it it means why in the hec should i play with these guys???
Kei143 (NA)
: You still aren't separating the unskilled and the trolls. You are describing the trolls in your post, which they should get punished. Don't clump the people that are bad at the game with people whom have bad attitudes to the game. They aren't the same. If you want to see people with better skills, climb and you'll see people whom are better. But you'll still get people with bad attitudes when you climb up. In fact, you'll probably get more people with attitude problems as you climb higher.
gee, how can i rep trolls if there is no such categories? griefing isnt trolling, feeding too, so trolling is now means being a negative one? lol > But you'll still get people with bad attitudes when you climb up. In fact, you'll probably get more people with attitude problems as you climb higher. thank you, Mr. obvious
: Oh do not pull that 'teacher' bull. Any student, no matter the age, is attending and under your academic tutelage to learn and understand for a benefit to them. Anyone who doesn't put the heart or misbehaves is potentially doomed to be stuck where they rightfully are. What you are insinuating with League is that if a random player can't work well with and for you, then their level of expertise doesn't deserve to be in your presence. Now apply that to your so called teaching: what would that make you look like if you told your _trying_ student he/she sucks at a subject and shouldn't be in your class because they're not meeting your desired level of expertise?! First of all, you'd be a terrible example of a teacher and second who would want you around if word got out? You're pretty much giving yourself a Rate My Professor review with this thread and I wouldn't want you on my team if that's how your player logic is.
> Anyone who doesn't put the heart or misbehaves is potentially doomed to be stuck where they rightfully are. looks like you are living the life of miracles
: Oh do not pull that 'teacher' bull. Any student, no matter the age, is attending and under your academic tutelage to learn and understand for a benefit to them. Anyone who doesn't put the heart or misbehaves is potentially doomed to be stuck where they rightfully are. What you are insinuating with League is that if a random player can't work well with and for you, then their level of expertise doesn't deserve to be in your presence. Now apply that to your so called teaching: what would that make you look like if you told your _trying_ student he/she sucks at a subject and shouldn't be in your class because they're not meeting your desired level of expertise?! First of all, you'd be a terrible example of a teacher and second who would want you around if word got out? You're pretty much giving yourself a Rate My Professor review with this thread and I wouldn't want you on my team if that's how your player logic is.
jesus, i havent drawn a parallel between teaching and gaming, you did it yourself, who in the world let me get some studets out of my groups, are you mad? If someone's is sucking so my obligation is to do most of things to help this dude no matter what i personally want. My point is i always do my best, do the best damage , do ganks, do everything posssible to get a win....but...my "lucky" team dont even do a half of it. And it happens often. Why? Dunno. I have no answers.
rujitra (NA)
: You say people should be punished for ignoring you. This is equivalent to saying they should be forced to listen to you by threat of punishment.
my godness, gee, its a TEAM game, cooperation, partnership, are you really playing the league?
Kei143 (NA)
: I know you are, but you seem to confuse the two together. Trolling is punishable but being bad isn't. People can troll by looking bad, but bad players are not necessarily trolling. You can getting into all these disagreeable debates with others because you aren't able to distinguish between the two. Because of that, you'll end up frustrating yourself, in-game and on these boards.
i am not frustrating myself both in game and in here, i am jsut a bit upset people have become flabby and dont want to see the game as a way to improve the skills, people jsut think somtehting of the sort like - its jsut a game, should i really tryhard or improve myself in process ..,, no- And its a perfect excuse for everthing, like you are noob- yes i am but its jsut a game why not, you are are troll? why not, some people can troll if they wanna to, you do afk at 20 min? pffff izi pizi, its just a game really, why should i care about people's time wasted- its JUST a GAME dont take it serious, right? For me those people who disrespect the others are just self assured cads. Its not about gaming as it is, its all about people who first think about themselves like the world's their our place to live
: ok league of trolling, now i know what to do- who says you cant go "helping toper as an adc" you can go there and no one can report you for trolling, and if you a supp- y can leave your adc alone from the very beginning and go "roamiing" other lanes and jungle- who says you are trolling- it doesnt exist, these guys are ok, or if you are a jungle just ignore your team, farm the jungle till 30 min - let the enemy jungle totally destroy your teammates' lanes- you arent team ignoring- you are just "playing your own game " so to speak,,,, yeahhh its so cool , really this world has gone mad{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
so tell me what wrong i have said if y dont go along with me....gee these players ...
rujitra (NA)
: How is it fair that everyone has to listen to you and you don’t have to respect their opinions?
are you ok? have i said someone should listen to me? i have a suggestion
rujitra (NA)
: And that’s fine. People aren’t forced to play the way you want them to. It’s a team game - teams involve **shared** decisions, not you forcing your ideas onto others.
pff i dont want to force them to do smth, jesus, i want the old categories back ( or adding new ones) and if you just want "fun" so to speak go play normals
: If people play poorly, from game to game, they will have a tendency to lose games, yes? If they don't have that tendency over many games, perhaps their decisions aren't poor compared to the other players of the same rank. Those who lose games, will go down in MMR. If your decisions are better than theirs, you will have a tendency to win games, yes? If you don't have that tendency over many games, perhaps your decisions aren't good compared to the other players of the same rank. If you win games, your MMR will go up.
like what you have said have somthing in common with the real situation, most of times totally unskillds jsut get carried. And i face it many times i have a choice whether to lose or to carry these ones
: How about adding(getting back) a new (old) report categories ?
ok league of trolling, now i know what to do- who says you cant go "helping toper as an adc" you can go there and no one can report you for trolling, and if you a supp- y can leave your adc alone from the very beginning and go "roamiing" other lanes and jungle- who says you are trolling- it doesnt exist, these guys are ok, or if you are a jungle just ignore your team, farm the jungle till 30 min - let the enemy jungle totally destroy your teammates' lanes- you arent team ignoring- you are just "playing your own game " so to speak,,,, yeahhh its so cool , really this world has gone mad{{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: How do they climb the ladder if you ban everyone below gold? Also, your "alt" is irrelevant, because it's not here, and has no proof it even exists and that it's yours.
you can check this acc stats it will be enough
: How do they climb the ladder if you ban everyone below gold? Also, your "alt" is irrelevant, because it's not here, and has no proof it even exists and that it's yours.
i mean i would NOT ban people below gold, y got me wrong
: really people, this world is getting mad if you think you should only punish players in cybersport sompetitive teambased online game by their bad talks, not for bad playing or team disrespecting\ignoring{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
looks like the game cares about fair playing no more jsut about attacting new audience\money. Every team sport or competition needs skills improving or team respecting, if you dont understand it you must be entirely oodly bonkers
: How about adding(getting back) a new (old) report categories ?
really people, this world is getting mad if you think you should only punish players in cybersport sompetitive teambased online game by their bad talks, not for bad playing or team disrespecting\ignoring{{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: so let me get this straight...you think that anyone less than Gold tier should be banned from ranked? are you high?
on this acc not, but my kda and damage is the best almost every game, yes i think that even in iron there are good players and still they have to play with unskilled/trolls/ignoring players so they cant climb the ladder
Kei143 (NA)
: There's a huge difference between unskilled players and trolls. You need to learn the difference.
Julevi (EUW)
: If you wanna see “unskilled“ players being banned - you mean also all Iron, Bronze, Silver players, basically players like you and me (assuming that you are a new player and haven't been banned before)? Because let's admit it - although people in this elo understand some aspects, have their own strengths and weaknesses they are certainly not incredible skilled overall.
so as i see it if its a sportsmanlike managed game and bla bla bla you should match its rpinciples like skill improving and high team cooperation, Who in the world wants solo players in team supposed games??? Or jsut declare for eveyone- our rules of comtetitive matches is a clown fiesta, do what you want- pick what you want- play as you want- its ok
Julevi (EUW)
: If you wanna see “unskilled“ players being banned - you mean also all Iron, Bronze, Silver players, basically players like you and me (assuming that you are a new player and haven't been banned before)? Because let's admit it - although people in this elo understand some aspects, have their own strengths and weaknesses they are certainly not incredible skilled overall.
even in iron there are players who play like high elo, but the team just horrid, and some people just saying like this- "its jsut a game= why should i try?? or lets surr 15 i got a fb,,,, i have no int to play...."
Julevi (EUW)
: If you wanna see “unskilled“ players being banned - you mean also all Iron, Bronze, Silver players, basically players like you and me (assuming that you are a new player and haven't been banned before)? Because let's admit it - although people in this elo understand some aspects, have their own strengths and weaknesses they are certainly not incredible skilled overall.
i dont want to see them banned i want to see them banned from rankeds and go play for fun as much as you want if you dont want to improve or play seriously
: Trolling doesn't mean unskilled. If someone is trolling, you report them for griefing, which is Negative Attitude. If they're unskilled, you HELP THEM get better. Not scream at them and demand they be reported and banned. I'm going to assume now that you're either a smurf who's main got banned for being toxic and can't seem to wrap your head around the fact not everyone around level 58 knows every champion like Faker, or some new player who can't wrap their head around the fact _you're only level 58 people are still learning champions_. As such I will no longer be responding.
griefing doesnt mean trolling, dude, trolling is when you provoke the team or play anivia jungle, and griefing is for example int feeding, but you dont even see the difference , dude and i am a teacher in real life every day i try to do people better but there is such a category of people who are just dumb from life and you cant do anything, and once again, i am not talking about crying at someone , i dont, i am talking about the fact- if y are bad or team ignoring you mustnt play rankeds
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O7QmYOOH,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-08T11:06:38.716+0000) > > Because you can't punish someone for thinking your call is fucking stupid (and no, your call is not as good as you think it is), or for just being bad at the game. And because if we start punishing everyone for a bad play, this game wouldn't exist.
"this game wouldnt exist" y say? huh, its a sport or at least a competitive principle no one will play with you if y are bad.... jesus, jsut imagine you are bad at i dunno at tennis, but you want to play high league - who let you do it? its so funny to hear such words, if you are bad or cant play in team you just bad or cant play in team, you are not allowed to the competitive mode , go play it for fun
: Because you can't punish someone for thinking your call is fucking stupid (and no, your call is not as good as you think it is), or for just being bad at the game.
yeah i got ye- let all the noobs who dont want to improve in- gl in rankeds
: If they're bad/unskilled, they don't need to be punished. Why would they need to be punished? HELP THEM learn instead of demanding they be banned because they're not Challenger 1, Korean pro players. Not everyone is going to be a pro at this game, especially not at your level. You're only level 58, assuming you're not a smurf account, most if not all of the people you're with/against are going to be new players who are still learning champions and roles. If they're tolling, REPORT THEM. Funfact, there is a report option for that! Use it. It works. It works a lot better then a report option that would do literally nothing if it existed. If they're ignoring the team, REPORT THEM. There's a report option for that, too! Use it. It works. It works a lot better than a report option that would do literally nothing if it existed.
how can i rep 'trolls" if there is no even such a category ?? Negative behaviour jsut means bad talks and so on. So IF You dont want to improve play normals and dont make the people who want to clime the ladder lose lp. its easy
: > [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=O7QmYOOH,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-12-08T11:06:38.716+0000) > > Because you can't punish someone for thinking your call is fucking stupid (and no, your call is not as good as you think it is), or for just being bad at the game. And because if we start punishing everyone for a bad play, this game wouldn't exist.
i am not talking about bad plays i am talking about players playstyle which he shows from game to game
: Because you can't punish someone for thinking your call is fucking stupid (and no, your call is not as good as you think it is), or for just being bad at the game.
pffff, if my jungle doesnt do counterganks it means he is unskilled or team ignoring, if y have low tf participation its also a team ignoring behaviour its easy to get. And if you are just happyplaying unskilled noob which doesnt want to improve - play normals or get restriction from rankeds
: If they're bad/unskilled, they don't need to be punished. Why would they need to be punished? HELP THEM learn instead of demanding they be banned because they're not Challenger 1, Korean pro players. Not everyone is going to be a pro at this game, especially not at your level. You're only level 58, assuming you're not a smurf account, most if not all of the people you're with/against are going to be new players who are still learning champions and roles. If they're tolling, REPORT THEM. Funfact, there is a report option for that! Use it. It works. It works a lot better then a report option that would do literally nothing if it existed. If they're ignoring the team, REPORT THEM. There's a report option for that, too! Use it. It works. It works a lot better than a report option that would do literally nothing if it existed.
Riots dont ban 'trolls' cause there is no such a category
: The unskilled report did.... literally nothing. It was just an option there for people like you to feel better about yourself when someone didn't do what you wanted them to do. Instead of getting mad at them and cursing them out, CALMLY say what could help. Such as, "hey, maybe try to farm under tower." or, "try building some mr/armor." or, "this item works better for/against that champ." Or maybe even, if you know how the champion works and you understand the match up, "try doing x instead of y. and when he does a, try doing c." You'd be surprised how well a player can play when helped and not screamed at. A lot, if not all, unskilled players are willing to LEARN. They can't learn if you scream at them. If they're trolling, just mute them if they're being toxic in chat, ignore them best you can, and report them after the game for trolling or being toxic. If they're not gonna listen, just ignore them.
so for example, you are a football player of a sort, you do no teamworks, ignores your teammates and do a bad performance, pretending to be a "superstar"( which y are not) - so people jsut saying- "hay mate- y are bad and y are justt ignoring us " , what will the manager of the team do if he sees the situation continues? Right, the player will get fired if he ignores the team principles, BUT what have we got in league? Also cyber SPORT sportsmanlike pretending game and bla bla bla- people are playing rankeds ( the competitive mode) and dont even try or ignore the team- its ok.
: The unskilled report did.... literally nothing. It was just an option there for people like you to feel better about yourself when someone didn't do what you wanted them to do. Instead of getting mad at them and cursing them out, CALMLY say what could help. Such as, "hey, maybe try to farm under tower." or, "try building some mr/armor." or, "this item works better for/against that champ." Or maybe even, if you know how the champion works and you understand the match up, "try doing x instead of y. and when he does a, try doing c." You'd be surprised how well a player can play when helped and not screamed at. A lot, if not all, unskilled players are willing to LEARN. They can't learn if you scream at them. If they're trolling, just mute them if they're being toxic in chat, ignore them best you can, and report them after the game for trolling or being toxic. If they're not gonna listen, just ignore them.
is this a team game? YES is this game about cooperation? YES is it supposed to be a sportsmanlike game ? YES - SO why shouldn't players who don't match the games basics be punished?
: The unskilled report did.... literally nothing. It was just an option there for people like you to feel better about yourself when someone didn't do what you wanted them to do. Instead of getting mad at them and cursing them out, CALMLY say what could help. Such as, "hey, maybe try to farm under tower." or, "try building some mr/armor." or, "this item works better for/against that champ." Or maybe even, if you know how the champion works and you understand the match up, "try doing x instead of y. and when he does a, try doing c." You'd be surprised how well a player can play when helped and not screamed at. A lot, if not all, unskilled players are willing to LEARN. They can't learn if you scream at them. If they're trolling, just mute them if they're being toxic in chat, ignore them best you can, and report them after the game for trolling or being toxic. If they're not gonna listen, just ignore them.
i am not talking about the flaming i am talking about bad\troll\unskilled\ ignoring players ruining the games and still unpunished
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