: Can we Please fixe camille interaction with yummi ? it Doesnt make any sence
A lot of things do not make sense. There are people that can use "R" while being Ashe-stunned or why the heck can't I heal - as "Summoner" - during a Warwick ulti? Consistency is a word RIOT never knew.
Lost R (NA)
: I'm seeing something consistent in all the games that are lost.
Dear OP, the problem is when you are only one building Lord Dominik as Ashe vs ChoGath, the problem is when I ping my bad Evelynn to the Infernal Dragon but I am toplane and she refuses to respond while being safe and already heading there, the problem is when I split pushed my lane two turrets and and lose that effort when I am babysitting 2.5 trash lanes. When I am Bard and see, despite being on bottom lane, that the top lane is being ambushed soon and the toplane's VERY OWN WARD is being ignored by my turkish Teemo whose only intention is to talk Döner Language as if this is a dating and chat website, why is that all my fault? When I look into the mirror, which is OP.GG, I often see "ACE", "ACE", "MVP". And I have a winrate of 38%. Sorry, no. Stop defedning much of this shit. As you say: "As Team". When the crappy matchmaking puts me with people that can not speak English and lack the common sense, why should I lose the right to bitch about said matchmaking?
: What's one thing that Riot did right or you like?
Bard Bard. I love baroque themes and they made play him. Have this skin on 4 accounts.
: Can we tone down damage and make league require skill again?
It would be great if RIOT would be passionate again. Every company that turns big has one problems: Cost. The bigger the company, the higher the cost, and then shit like Tencent happens, too. But the bigger the company, the more "suits" it will attract. "Suits" do not play the game, "suits" sit in an office to crunch numbers and milk potential wallets. LoL has barely any soul left, and that soul is the great, absolutely fantastic art teams. I love Bard Bard, Ashe, Morgana (and Kayle a bit) - these are very unique and grew to my heart just by their design. But the game around is dominated by suits. Look ,id Software had like 8 staff members and 1 suit (Jay Wilbur if I remember correctly) which was also part of the developer team when they made Commander Keen and DooM in the 1990s. Those games are great, because made with love. Many AMIGA and COMMODORE games were made by 5 or 4 people and those were great because they were gamers and made the game for gamers. CodeMasters made great games with joy in mind. Even LoL in 2010, when I started, was great. I remember those first shy Dreamhack attempts of a big stage (while EU West suffered from 4 hour login queues with a crash afterwards for 3 weeks straight). You saw these guys were semi-professional but they did it with their heart. Now you have Posterboys and balance is done around those. What kind of shit are those Sailor Moon and Pyjama skins? This game used to be serious, "Clash of fates" was the subtitle. Now they sold (literally!) their soul for girls playing League of Annoying Anime Soundeffects for easy money. Yeah, that Purple-Haired Jinx with her Anime sond effect next to a pool Party Lulu are so legendary!!1! Characters like Bard for example are neglected, because he is not flashy. Riven is, Lee Sin is, Yasuo is, Talon is. And Flashy means money. And money means balancing for money, not for the game's health or for fun. Thos times are over when you grow too big and the suits join your company. E.g. Bard's tunnel - why do I allow everyone to use it, but Yasuo can decide which attacks are sucked in by the windwall? Isn't Bard some sort of demi-god/spirt thing and Yasuo a mere human? My ulti affects all, not just one groupf people - maybe I can select that? I can't heal enemies, so Bard surely knows what to do. Yasuo can. Oh wait, Yasuo is flashy and brings money. Suits are the plague of every video game company, and RIOT is a first grade vicitim. So hopefully, the company dies down to a healthy level again (very low chance) or we should go somewhere else. I actually play myself, but after 9 years, you don't simply quit. But then, I use this game to get the enemy tilted and get my enjoyment from that instead of having handshakes of a proper PvP with a "GG" at the end.. And the bad "Matchmaking" that sends you on a 6-hour unwinnable game wasted time streak just to give you games you can auto attack your enemies to death after just makes it even worse. When I play FFXIV or Zelda, I realize how fun video games are, even when I kill Link 50 times, I know I did it myself and the developers want me to win, with a challenge. RIOT forgot about that. RIOT want you to play shit like Zed, Talon and those insta-delete characters or getting tilted by those yourself. LoL is a game that is unhealthy and shoud not be played by anyone when you look at your bloodpressure during gameplay.
: How do new players stand this game? Almost every mode is filled with botters
Nobody enjoys the game. No beginner and no "vetaran". I just had 4 games in a row lost due to "beginners" for some reason that go 1/6/1 and "tHeY aRe LeArNinG" (how to run into enemy bushes and shit that does nothing but common sense!) The more people leave this garbage coinflip skill-does-not-matter game the better, and "beginners" should play a different game that provides a healthy blood pressure.
Sukishoo (NA)
: They had to fully rebuild the game for Mobile devices, so it's going to look massively different. They won't be using those in the PC version though as they use completely different setups across everything.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bE4Gucl5,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-10-24T02:48:59.820+0000) > > They had to fully rebuild the game for Mobile devices, so it's going to look massively different. They won't be using those in the PC version though as they use completely different setups across everything. I am sure they did not choose to create models on a super obscure engine on purpose. Especially since these models are still mid-quality compared to such a gigantic company.. Maybe they are just too incompetent.
: Useless League of Legends Facts?
The names "Dr. Mundo" and "Ashe" come from real life names. Mundo was derived from a guy called Edmundo working at RIOT (I think I read that in 2010/11 by Zenon on the German EU (not West yet!) board) and Ashe comes from Ashley or something, a friend/fiance/wife from a RIOT employee.
: Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the Anniversary Gifts Riot is giving us?
Well, I think both is nice and a bit cheap from RIOT. First of all, getting _anything_ is nice. But then, it's PR for them. Imagine "LoL turns 10 and .. does nothing" in the gaming world. Every magazine, every blogger would call them cheap. They know that, so they toss cheap stuff at us. I mean, you rave about these gifts as if they are really giving this extremely rich company a dent. They have not much to maintain: 1 map, a crappy auto chess, their balance is off, their client garbage. But still I spent so much money over the course of my 9.5 years. I have the DVD collectors edition from 2010. I regret really nothing, but it's like in the (good, old) 90s Simpsons episode where Bart is getting ran over the Mr. Burns and Homer gets a $100 cheque. These gifts are cheap crap, the equivalent to free biros and airballoons with the company logo on it. I mean, you can rave about a free WalMart Keychain or a McDonald's air balloon as they are gifts nonetheless. But as someone said, imagine you can select ONE skin from ALL skins. After all, we made this company big, and the billions they have sacked in (but barely put back into the game as it seems with the aforementioned problems) that loss would be absolutely easy to manage. Kids with no way to pay digitally could finally have a skin and others can select from very rare ones. That'd bind customers...
: Bard Wants A Skin
I love the RPG skin set and have "Bard Bard" on 4 accounts. I just love this jabot-wearing big daddy type with a tricorn. Bardo is so under-appreciated anyways :S
: 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfSwhUwzcOw 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuCBabUEDrQ&t=15s 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FWOUBBCtA Watch and apply. Find out what your doing wrong and work on it.
> [{quoted}](name=ExcaliburX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JwiiuwtX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-12T04:54:20.799+0000) > > 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfSwhUwzcOw > 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuCBabUEDrQ&t=15s > 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8FWOUBBCtA > > Watch and apply. Find out what your doing wrong and work on it. This is exactly the kind of bullshit the OP did not need. That is like saying you're a race driver and your "mates" slash your tyres. You come up with videos about "How to shift gears better", "Aquaplanning and Drifting, Vol.2" and "How to calculate fuel usage". The problem of the slashed tyres are not adressed by that. What does it matter anyways when he is obviously reaching his limit and 50-75% of his "team" are utter crap? You can try to drive with those slashed tyres, go ahead. If you lose, I will mock you. I have a 4-premade of French bobs lately that went like 4/35 together. They died by invades, they died together, they were not communicating, my pings they did not mind, my wards they did not mind - I just went AFK and played Dishonored. Can you post me some: "What Low Elo players do wrong" videos now, too that won't change anything at the slightest?
: First off, lovely and well reasoned post. You presented your problems and proposed solutions clearly and well. Nice job!! Ok I sound like a high school English teacher...but I was really impressed by it{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Moving on XD I honestly have no problems aside from his gold and gray health thing. Even so, I just kinda deal with him when he shows up. I just play for fun so I don’t really get the DeLEt PykE ImmEdIaTe posts. That said, I think the changes you proposed are good solutions, and he does need to be taken down in power level a bit
> [{quoted}](name=MARJEN2301,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zRfmuAtu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-03T00:57:44.048+0000) > > First off, lovely and well reasoned post. You presented your problems and proposed solutions clearly and well. Nice job!! > > Ok I sound like a high school English teacher...but I was really impressed by it{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} 33% is about his personal playstyle that indicates nothing but many, many games with him (first graph). Nothing to do with the actual case. 33% is about a small dent inbetween a nerf and a buff which has low value of reasoning in it. 33% is about a superficial change that does not fix the multi-layered problem such a jack-of-all-trade champ brings. The rest is visual bloat. Sorry, my teacher would have given me a C (or "3" in our German rating system) if at all if I did Powerpoints with almost empty sheets. It's called "Filler". A nice presentation does not substitute the lack of actual content.
Hotarµ (NA)
: Pyke: Yes, he needs to be nerfed. A 560k mastery point main's perspective.
This thread is like a lemon: You have a handful of fruit but the juice you get out of it is almost nothing. The formatting is nice but looks like a substitute for actual content and people will go "Woooo, dat luuks so profezzional", but in fact it's just some Pyke player that shows us we know already and comes up with not-so great ideas and superficial things for such an overloaded kit that creates a multi-layered problem. I mean, why do you play Pyke so much in the first place? Because he is easy and safe. And I am sure you would drop him immediately if he get put in place properly, not fake nerfs like these. This thread sounds like some funky lobby-ist sort of thing.
: the support page is literal eye aids.
"Ranked Play" has a human with a red down arrow. Go figure. That symbol alone represents your ranks, mental health and fun when you do play ranked.
Razorex (EUW)
: I want Riot to see this.
"I do not like watching League content because that is not the game I am playing" - That is so true. Imagine, the LCS would use the so-called matchmaking on stage. Nobody would want to watch blow-outs and rage wars, surrender polls and AFKs after first blood. LCS and all the other expensive shitshows use pre-determined teams of players you know and are ready. When we, the 99.9% of the other players and people that actually pay this company with our RP, try to play, we are stuck in a badly-maintained, unsupervised playgrounds with bullies. Yesterday I had a Qayana or whatever she is spelled that was AFK for 14 minutes, walked randomly around, took my EXP in the top bush and died 3 times by just AFKing in bushes troughout the map. Later, she claimed "she was on the phone, getting her takeaway food ready". 45 minutes, RIOT does jack shit about that, even the chatlog says it and the leaverbuster has very most likely triggered. But dear god, if you say two wrong words...
: Yasuo Windwall Utility is too high
Make the windwall block EVERYTHING. If a celestial being like Bard can not select who is being affected within his ulti, why should a human select that these Jinx bullets go trough but the enemy Jinx' not?
Win1Ocent (EUW)
: @RiotBlaustoise on mobility
As an {{champion:22}} main by heart I like to blow this feel of speed (mobility) with my passive. Some players forgot how it is to be slow except they get licked by Tahm Kench or, well, Nasus. But I often see me, Ashe, an immobile champ, getting charged by Darius with these speed boots and one auto attack makes him so slow that I can kite him. Some enemies, like Riven, are more tough, but the same applies when you fire your W in her direction. The same when some of them want to dash away - W and then permanently auto attack slow them. That is fun! Suddenly, their jumpy champion is slowed so much that I can overtake them if I did not kill them meanwhile. And so it happens that a Yasuo dies to an Ashe because I fire 500 small arrows of my Q into him while he desperately tries to get away after missing all his shit. With any other champion, it would be a chase now. But I rather have them crawling and dragging a layer of ice behind them.. :)
Gëcko (NA)
: Who truly likes this game?
I love the art style. I am a massive Ashe (and Bard Bard) fan. I have the Ashe statue and even the Warmother comic (framed!) on my wall. I am also here since 2010, so I still have the aftertaste of a good game in my mouth while I keep eating the junk we get fed now. I am sure the overall games are not going down too much, as I myself ridiculuse this over-rated company but (try to) play almost every day... I just like Ashe too much..
: Real fun when the client decides to not even load you into the load screen.
The Client and the Launcher are the usualy RIOT-quality: Non-functional garbage. You have to log off of Windows (not neccesarilly shutting down the PC) which causes every non-system task to be killed. Then log in again and re-try, because all ucked-up RIOT code is now re-initialized as well.. In one attempt I had 7x League of Legends.exe running - by itself, I did not repeatedly start it or something. Of course this mess causes a jam.
: The game is such a coin flip, it's embarrassing.
I started to soft-troll when I was on a good winning streak because I can't win anyways the next couple of games and before I try my best, I rather join my noob's level of shitness. I have a Morgana OTP account, too, and I am on a losing streak with heavily negative W/L. My stats are insane, I get S- in a lost game (as Morgana support, go figure), on op.gg every 2-3rd game is "ACE". As, I repeat, support Morgana. I won one game where I carried so hard 1vs2 top (as...SUPPORT MORGANA because my noobs wanted to feed the heck out of bottom lane together apparently), got most gold (!!), solid S, helped my noobs with shields and CC. This game was a win, but a punishment because I carried a bunch o'trash. Because I won, the next game was equally ridiculous, but unsalvable. 2/17/2 Diana taht always said "cryyyyyy" when someone mentinoed her shit gameplay (so much about "Tell them newbies the game! Teach them!!!"), my Lee SIn picked Smite but went mid and ended 0/9/2 - same as my Zoe (however that is possible!). Nah, the 5/0/6 Morgana has to lose, again, with an ACE in op.gg. Got another mastery token though... But still, if your trash noobs go 2/17/2, then it is clearly a missmatch, and everything eles than a "match". So "Match found" is a meme now, and, as said, I soft troll and soft int to lose on purpose so I can get real games afterwards. I am not there to carry more rigged games, I rather join my trashbobs by being trash and enjoy myself than the only one trying an dthen get reported for saying the truth to these fucknoobs.
: Bard shrine heals for so much. If you are only using the heal pre 10 seconds, you are not playing bard right.
You did not read, did you? He said that his mates won't walk back to a shrine in a teamfight, or do you do that? It's not about Bard, it's about his guys.
: With so many emotes in the game, to have a larger emote wheel would be nice
It is RIOT games, they can't do that because trash employees.
BoomXyros (EUNE)
: Nightblue3 got banned
It took them like 2 weeks, an outrage and several, probably dozens of player reports do do that. Nothing to be raving about actually! It should've happened at day #1 considering how quick social media was. But of course, you people now celebrate RIOT for that. I'd like to have you bobs as customers!
: Ha ha ha ha ha!!!! Obvious OP is like 11 years old. Get a job kiddo. Work 6 days a week for The Man travelling on a packed train or 30+ miles in traffic for a crappy paycheck barely able to afford to live. Then tell me you can't have a drink of beer when your get home to relax and your srub team mates push the lane stand under the enemy tower until the enemy jungle ganks and their vayne gets a double kill making any hope of a fair game a distant memory. No. Playing drunk is the best way to play LoL.
It is pretty clear you are not old either. No mature person would say that. Maybe, if you drink less, you get a real job/profession and not just low-wage helper jobs. But yes, being a run-down guy that has such a "bad life" *sob sob* needs to be drunk to play a video game - grow balls yourself first. Greetings, a 28-year old
: Now that Yuumi has been released, can Riot please put a VETERAN designer on the next support champ?
: Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe you just suck Does match making suck? Yeah. But I feel like a lot of people just straight suck and are looking for excuses to why they are losing.
> [{quoted}](name=MorgManBasher,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ioglAQOF,comment-id=0027,timestamp=2019-05-04T12:10:58.138+0000) > > Have you ever stopped to consider that maybe you just suck > > Does match making suck? Yeah. > But I feel like a lot of people just straight suck and are looking for excuses to why they are losing. If the matchmaking would work, they would face other people that "suck", thus they would not realize it at all. If you keep losing and losing shows the "matchmaking" does not match.
: Riot doesn't care
I went back to a real game and level my Lalafell Red Mage. Spending 13€ month really shows in quality. The forums are not censored as here, you can critize Square Enix and the support actually works with real humans. Also, the client does not crash, uses almost as much RAM as LoL (as a AAA MMORPG!), laods faster, no weird framerate drops with a Ryzen7 and a GTX1080 (!!??!!), no disconnects so far (and thus leaver), you can leave a dungeon when someone has been kicked/left,... All these nice things!
: Hi,I am going to start logging every game where I have a troll or afk.
This is absolutely great! I did something, too, but nobody believed me when I said that it's like 8:2 (my leavers/their leavers) or something. But it was.
BigFBear (EUW)
: To everyone who says there's no elo hell and matchmaking is fine:
: If SILVERS cannot Duo with PLATINUMS, WHY are they queued AGAINST ONE OTHER?
No no ,according to the boards, it is YOU that is at fault why this happens. Why? Don't know, ask the boards.
: Matchmaking outplays me pretty frequently...
Uh-oh, you should not have said that. Wait until the people that say "It's you, only you, why you lose" come and nitpick one game out of 250 via OP.GG...
: Then you have no clue how to "spread your lead". If you're actually winning lane and then think "let me go 3v3 with my feeding bot lane, that's definitely the way for me to win the game". Not to mention you have not once crushed your lane as hard as your "bot lane has fed". Also don't realize what this "spreading your lead" nonsense is if you have god awful kill participation. AKA you _actually_ don't do anything to help your team. If you were actually grouping with your team with your "lead" and fighting with them, your kill participation would be much higher. Maybe realize that your enemy laner is making enough mistakes that you could also make them a "feeder" - but you don't capitalize on it because you don't even see these opportunities. You have god awful CS numbers on every champion you play. Don't let boards fool you into thinking that "bad matchmaking" is the reason you can't climb. Having a 35% win rate doesn't mean "bad matchmaking". It means you, yes you, are a sole factor that is actually LOSING GAMES for your team. Having _you_ lowers your teams chances of winning the game. Aim to play better.
If the matchmaking would work, he would face opponents as "shitty" as him. And against people that tilt as easy. Or have "god awful CS". This is the very point of a matchmaking. To make a match. But obviously, this is not happening. When the enemy is better, either the matchmaking is not working or the MMR is useless. When I raged a couple of days ago, I read the same bullshit like you spit there. I never asked about "climbing", I asked about equally bad enemies and equally shit teammates - so we can have a fair game. But the thread has been filled with people like you. "OH, you use Dark Harvest, that's why you lose" - Eh, changing DH to another rune and my junglers stop sucking? Such bullshit logic is the real toxicity, just like this blind SJW nonsense of "dass rassist" whenver something even remotely comes up. In 2010, when people complained about Tryndamere ulti being 6 seconds, everyone was like "Git Gud lol". Strange, it has been nerfed later. Maybe the cause was deeper than just some random rager...? Your response is a kneejerk diss, but nothing really put any effort into. If he - and I - are so bad, please, PLEASE put me with equally bad players. I beg you. This is the point of MMR, matchmaking, leagues, divisions etc. This is why amateur boxing has so many weight classes. But hey, just let people free fall lose for 5+ games straight. No real matchmaking would let that happen, and gives you in the process a full 5-man premade. In my very scenario, in those 7 games, my "team"s had done 0 dragons. The enemy: 13+ (I don't know the last game as I ALT+F4ed). But hey, it's my fault after all, eh? And my runes, huh? Yes, yes, tell it to the marines. Please think about it first, read into the different matchmaking systems. LoL used ELO before, now it's MMR. They showed it first, now they hide it. And then, even APIs are restricted to not determine it. Why do you think is that? Because of constantly bad matchmade games. One of those bobs that came in like you had a game where he fed 1/6/1 for no reason in Diamond. Then his entire team lost 1-22 (!!!). Diamond, and meta picks. Do you think he, and his entire team, suddenly stopped to play properly in ranked? And decided he can lose some SoloQ for shits and giggles? Then, in another game, his Diamond 3 Hecarim went 0/10/1. "Platinum3". With HUNDREDS of games of data. I wonder if you even know how a proper Glicko(2) system works. Because this shit should not happen. But RIOT has fumbled with this garbage to increase queue times in late 2012 or 2013 IIRC. Before that, a 3vs3 game took about 4-6 minutes to pop in 2010-12. And these games were actually even.
y0r1ck (NA)
: Nah it's not your teammates or matchmaking. You're legitimately bad at the game.
> [{quoted}](name=y0r1ck,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LEfJljE8,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-21T15:14:26.162+0000) > > Nah it's not your teammates or matchmaking. You're legitimately bad at the game. So you are agreeing with him that the matchmaking sucks. Because if he is bad, the matchmaking should put him against people (or with people) of the same range eventually, which is not happening, hence the freefall losing. However, you can't freefall forever, but it's happening easily in this game.
: > [{quoted}](name=USAstar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-04-14T04:11:05.421+0000) > > You made a smart choice. I did the same years ago. Rito treats old players like shit we all knew that. You don't need to explain anything. Ignore those rito bootlickers. They will eventually get there. Good luck with everything. Ade Bud, I quit this game pretty often, but I still have fun... outside of ranked, lol. On the other hand I also don't play non-meta crap builds that will become double-edged swords. Great for snowballing, but no snowball, and you're melted.
> [{quoted}](name=TengenToppaGnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-04-14T04:13:29.332+0000) > > Bud, I quit this game pretty often, but I still have fun... outside of ranked, lol. On the other hand I also don't play non-meta crap builds that will become double-edged swords. Great for snowballing, but no snowball, and you're melted. Yes, and melted when you have no jungler, or your Garen bottom lane feeds, or your Riven feeds, or your Ziggs goes AFK. I told you already that my build is the least of a problem here. But hey, I switch to a meta build and then suddenly my guys do objectives and my enemies are no premades vs Solos then? Please, stop grabbing for straws.
BigFBear (EUW)
: Just a shitty RANT thread upvoted by the bot who is trolling boards since a while.
> [{quoted}](name=BigFBear,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-04-14T05:39:24.274+0000) > > Just a shitty RANT thread upvoted by the bot who is trolling boards since a while. And you are any better...
: He should just stop playing normals and find a duo / 5 man to play ranked. But i'm guessing this guy is a #ForFunGamer
> [{quoted}](name=rECatherine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-04-14T03:22:56.329+0000) > > He should just stop playing normals and find a duo / 5 man to play ranked. > But i'm guessing this guy is a #ForFunGamer As my cousin plays ranked, it's the same shitfest there. Just before you read things into my post that are not like the other here: We - my cousin included - do not talk about climbing. We talk about fair games in their skill region. He also loses absolutely bad games. Stomps. The boards are full with them, even with ranked players. A stomp should not happen with thousands of games worth of data IF the matchmaking would work properly.
: you had me in the first half not gonna lie. but no shit your teammates are noobs lol, your account level is 23 and your clearly a smurf so it matches you against better players naturally you cant just start flaming riot for matching you with noobs if you're playing on a fucking smurf lol. It isnt rigged matchmaking but you're smurfing at like level 23 so evreything is the way it should be. Also if you afk a third of your games i can see why you're not having fun
> [{quoted}](name=Master2139,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-04-14T05:41:05.173+0000) > > you had me in the first half not gonna lie. but no shit your teammates are noobs lol, your account level is 23 and your clearly a smurf so it matches you against better players naturally you cant just start flaming riot for matching you with noobs if you're playing on a fucking smurf lol. It isnt rigged matchmaking but you're smurfing at like level 23 so evreything is the way it should be. Also if you afk a third of your games i can see why you're not having fun The "better players" means premades AND bad noobs on my side? I can not even play my role because I get these 4/13 Garen and Lucian people there, and then I still end up as ACE? As "trash build" AP/Support Bard with Dark Harvest at toplane. Think about this situation just once. And now repeat this 7 times. Going AFK is not that much of a problem. Just look at the replay of the very last game. Even if I spazz out - it was my very last game of LoL anyways - you see that suddenly my entire "team" ws toplane. It was a funky shitfest, but only on my side as usual. That is, what I call, rigged. I just need ONE more guy. I don't mind losing in itself, as this would mean my MMR sinks, but it does not do anything in that matter. If you read carefully, I never talk bout going on winstreaks, or challenger, or climbing. I want to play in my skill region. Which I never reach. So you can be bad and STILL lose, despite your MMR should've fallen. I waited for that, but faced coordinated teams while my players were flatout useless. Way too many games in a row. Do you call this a matchmaking when it does not actually find any fair games even after me going AFK so much as you say? So you indirectly agree that the MMR and/or the matchmaking is broken. Imagine if I switch with "jungler", and I am a jungler main. And I do not get my objectives done - the dragons. You would say the same. So, my junglers are not doing the dragons or Heralds. So they are very bad. Why do I get those? Is the point of a "matchmaking" to give me - and only me - these weird bobs?
BigFBear (EUW)
: Dude, there are fucking MANY games where you obviously went afk after 5 minutes in game. Sry but you seem to be this whiney, salty guy who blames his ADC everytime and then just go afk, shitting on your whole team and leave them with 15-20 minutes of frustration. Obviously you dropped into Elo hell with this kind of behavior. You know: Normals have MMR too. I bet you are on rock bottom of Normal Elo. Like Iron 4 in Ranked. Ofc it's totally disgusting there to play because you play with other players like yourself: whiney leavers, and ragequiters. You even say in your post that you went afk in one of the last games. Well... obviously it is your typical behavior. #I count at least 10 afk games in your last 35 games (some even with lvl 1!!). That's almost 1/3 of your games!! WTF! Actually I wonder that you weren't banned already. You would have deserved it. I am happy that you stopped playing this game. It's better for everyone. Obviously you can't handle it and you make it a bad experience for everyone else. P.S. And then you even have nerve to say: "skill doesn't matter" and "matchmaking is rigged". Gosh I hate people like you from the bottom of my heart. You have no "skill" you are just bad af! I don't even know how it is possible to be THIS bad at something you've been doing for nine years! You don't even pick Flash, rofl. 9 years but didn't understand a thing. P.P.S. Also learn how to build Bard if you can't handle your off-meta build!
> [{quoted}](name=BigFBear,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-04-14T04:36:37.796+0000) > > Dude, there are fucking MANY games where you obviously went afk after 5 minutes in game. > Sry but you seem to be this whiney, salty guy who blames his ADC everytime and then just go afk, shitting on your whole team and leave them with 15-20 minutes of frustration. > Obviously you dropped into Elo hell with this kind of behavior. > You know: Normals have MMR too. I bet you are on rock bottom of Normal Elo. Like Iron 4 in Ranked. Ofc it's totally disgusting there to play because you play with other players like yourself: whiney leavers, and ragequiters. > You even say in your post that you went afk in one of the last games. Well... obviously it is your typical behavior. > #I count at least 10 afk games in your last 35 games (some even with lvl 1!!). > That's almost 1/3 of your games!! WTF! > Actually I wonder that you weren't banned already. You would have deserved it. > > I am happy that you stopped playing this game. It's better for everyone. > Obviously you can't handle it and you make it a bad experience for everyone else. > > > P.S. > And then you even have nerve to say: "skill doesn't matter" and "matchmaking is rigged". > Gosh I hate people like you from the bottom of my heart. > You have no "skill" you are just bad af! > I don't even know how it is possible to be THIS bad at something you've been doing for nine years! > You don't even pick Flash, rofl. > 9 years but didn't understand a thing. > > P.P.S. > Also learn how to build Bard if you can't handle your off-meta build! Calm down, kiddo. You are a Volibear one-trick that, if you can't get him, you feed 1/6/1. Deep down your history are games where you ragequitted yourself with 0/2/0 - coincidently your team lost 1-22. Oh, how did that happen?!? You are such a good player?! And the Matchmaking works? Or where you just a whiner and could not handle unfair games that - according to you - do not happen? In Ranked? With meta builds? IN DIAMOND AND PLATIN!?!? You ragequit yourself in such games, but wonder why I have leaves in SIMILAR games when they happen in streaks?? **_You are a very special kind of hypocrite, Sir._** Just to make things clear in the beginning about your personal skill and attitude... :-) I will elaborate even further as you fail to understand the basic meaning of "matchmaking". Maybe you played too much LoL, but there is interesting math out there that show how Glicko-based systems are supposed to work, which is not the case here, hence me quitting a game that HAD once a matchmaking changing according to the skill levels of players. This changed as RIOT fumbled with queue time increasing measures in 2012 or 2013...when the rigging began. I checked your OP.GG and I see that you profitted HARD from the rigged matchmaking, see last paragraph. You have 23 wins out of 30 the last games with absolutely bad enemies in Platinum and Diamond, shows that playing meta and ranked does not change jack shit. The enemy also has bad winrates (tilt!) and you still get your free wins handed that make no sense if the matchmaking would do it's job by - finding matches. You had feeding enemy botlanes and even entire teams so bad that makes every outsider ask the question if this game has a "matchmaking". Also, you read things into my post that aren't there. And then you can't see things that are clearly there, but instead of getting a balanced view on the matter, you just rage at me - which makes me wonder how YOU would act ingame, if this is already rant-worthy to you. From 2010 to 2013, the game worked absotely fine. It had a Matchmaking, and it worked. The flaw in your hate-and-rage induced post is that I am asking the matchmaking to work. I never talk about climbing. I talk about fair and competitive games. Which is NOT the case if the enemy steamrolls you as 5-premade with high Levelled players that are also good while I get bot-like players on my side. Only on my side. I don't even have an ADC in the first place. And dropping in ELO (which is not in place since a couple of years) is what I wish would happen. To play absolutely rock bottom as you say. This is fine, I want to be within my skill range, with other "leavers" and other people with "trash builds" and what you guys here brought up. But it does not happen. Why can't I play on rock-bottom bot niveau? Because the matchmaking is rigged. When I am falling, and falling, and falling until I play on Iron V level, why do I face preamdes, why are my premades ending 2/15 or 4/15? Why can't only my junlgers out of 7 games not get a single dragon done (vs the 13+ on the enemies)? Why does my "baaad" Bard build still gets me Ace twice? Why do you think I go AFK when my "mates" are going AFK themselves for no reason (like Ziggs?). I am, actually, not that bad as you think, you don't know me, you don't even have the data longer than a couple of weeks which, if you would think, could already be on a down spiral of my attitude. The "last end" so to speak. I wish I would not be "ACE" with such a trash build twice as you call it. But why does it happen? Think about it. If I check your op.gg, you are also steamrolling as Volibear one-trick, hence your name. Do you think it's fine to win like that straight? This shows the very opposite of the problem: The matchmaking does not work. A real MM would stop you from streaks as it places you against enemies that means tough fights. Or stop people from dropping endlessly. Look how the "matchmaking" worked in your favour: * In one of your games, the enemy Hecarim had 0/10/1. Is this a "match"? * In another of your games, the "Matchmaking" gave you an 1/7/1 Alistar, a 1/6/1 Zed, a 1/4/0 Kayle and a 1/5/1 Lucian as enemy. Is this a "match"? An utter stomp that should and would not happen. But apparently, the 1/7 Alistar is just off-meta trash. OR, maybe, the matchmaking was broken. And these people play meta, and it's even ranked, and Diamond. Now all your bullshit arguments above fly away like a feather in the wind. * After a huge winstreak, you still get perfect KDAs, with 12/2 midlaners on your side. He was unranked amongst Plats and Diamonds. Their bottom lane, however, went 5/17. Now that is another "good" match with "fair and competitive settings". * After winning and winning and winning, you still won a day ago with teamscores of 31-16. Go figure. * If you, for once, can't one-trick Volibear, hence your name, you feed 1/6/1 with Jarvan. Can't handle it, eh? And you think you are in the position to talk about me? Conclusion again: I do not mind losing, but with bad mates and bad enemies and me, a bad player. But seeing Diamond and Platin games with 1/7, 1/5, 1/4 as your enemies - there are hundreds of games worth of data - just illustrates that the "matchmaking" is not working. Because "having a bad day" happening to all 5 players at once - do the math about probability chance there..
: This should be in RANT, since your build would be considered non-meta trash, and you're also in Normals, so wtf does it matter? Not like you're getting put in Ranked and getting these people.
> [{quoted}](name=TengenToppaGnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-04-14T03:40:23.273+0000) > > This should be in RANT, since your build would be considered non-meta trash, and you're also in Normals, so wtf does it matter? Not like you're getting put in Ranked and getting these people. If it can't find "matches" here, the same system can't find matches in Ranked. My "build" is still one of the best out of my "teams" and I still manage to get a healthy KDA of 2/1/4, which is fine considering the circumstances. I would change the Kills with Assists, but my guys are not able to actually do kills, so I have a higher number there. Or do you tell me I am suppsed to feed more? You can try to keep those numbers when you are surrounded by those 2/13 bottom laners. I am kinda disappointed that you guys can't even think about the broader picture but then again, I actually just "ranted", just like you do.
: Playing normals with a troll set up and complaining about matchmaking. Wtf. I really understand those people that complain about matchmaking in ranked games because it’s dog shit since the last changes to decrease queue avg time. This behaviour of lets flame league on boards is why riot doesn’t take this place seriously. Just do a favour to yourself and delete this thread
> [{quoted}](name=huntervicious,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-04-14T04:59:08.013+0000) > > Playing normals with a troll set up and complaining about matchmaking. Wtf. > > I really understand those people that complain about matchmaking in ranked games because it’s dog shit since the last changes to decrease queue avg time. > > This behaviour of lets flame league on boards is why riot doesn’t take this place seriously. Just do a favour to yourself and delete this thread The matchmaking is obviously bad. It was very good in 2010 to about 2012, when they "changed something for queue speed reasoning" which was ridiculous as the numbers exploded in terms of players. Since that, it went downhill. And yes, the "troll setup" is still the best out of my "teams" and even that, you still avoid leaving a word about the premades, the high-level enemies stomping my bobs, my junglers not doing their job properly with their unability for Barons, Heralds or dragons. About the Ziggs leaver or the double ADC. This is happening only on my side. THat is the point. And no, RIOT stopped caring before threads like this appeared. But you can not know that, the game was really good.
: u honestly arent even trying. also, these high level players? they just play the game a lot. your league level =/= skill That kal sal barely did anything that game yet you didn't try that game because of her level? idk also, those old league pics. man, i can literally enter that game right now and remember everything. look at that client too. holy shit. you have PLAY, the shop, and runes. WOW HOW SIMPLE IS THAT. i can barely navigate the current client.
> [{quoted}](name=IS2cc045cb42356,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-14T03:46:42.566+0000) > > u honestly arent even trying. > > also, these high level players? they just play the game a lot. your league level =/= skill That kal sal barely did anything that game yet you didn't try that game because of her level? > > idk > > also, those old league pics. man, i can literally enter that game right now and remember everything. look at that client too. holy shit. you have PLAY, the shop, and runes. WOW HOW SIMPLE IS THAT. i can barely navigate the current client. You would stop trying too. I "tried" too many games where in the lobby your French or Turkish people just do their stuff. Fine, as I am not in Draft. But ending up like that in every game? Being ACE and my "Junglers" not being able to get a single dragon done in 7 games. Or facing premades while my premade guys go x/15? Think about a bit further. I did not look up the level of her until later, but if you would look properly, you'd see that my two-ADC setup did not even get a single turret, but the enemy has 11 (!). So they crushes several lanes instead of funneling. That is a lot of time to get at least ONE turret, but alas, there are my "teams". And back then, the client - and the matchmaking - worked. Me and my cousin would've never been so long around here as we both just play normals. He didn't play for a week. He has about 6,000 normal games with a good W/L ratio.
BigFBear (EUW)
: Probably OP itself, lol.
> [{quoted}](name=BigFBear,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-14T04:50:36.239+0000) > > Probably OP itself, lol. No, I don't really care about upvotes or downvotes. I am pre-Facebook Millienial time and value other indicators.
: You go heal ignite dark harvest bard every game, normals are random, by definition it's going to be bad matchmaking DUDE Just untilt man, it's not that bad. Your setup is very good for snowball games, you take dark harvest and buy items way out of a supports price range, that's okay, but understand that the game's probably lost if you don't snowball, and that's your fault dude
> [{quoted}](name=Morgana Q Misser,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-14T03:04:15.700+0000) > > You go heal ignite dark harvest bard every game, normals are random, by definition it's going to be bad matchmaking > > DUDE > > Just untilt man, it's not that bad. > > Your setup is very good for snowball games, you take dark harvest and buy items way out of a supports price range, that's okay, but understand that the game's probably lost if you don't snowball, and that's your fault dude The "matchmaking" being with 5-man premades that are obviously good and well-levelled vs a bunch of randoms that go 3/14 on bottom lane have SO MUCH to do with me picking Dark Harvest, eh? Snowballing is difficult if you have no team behind you, but then, my build works with only a tiny bit of a team behind. There are none in the past games. Just look for a braoder image and not just pick the first reason. Also, thanks for basically agreeing with me by saying it does not work. It worked for about 4 years in the beginning pretty well. Something you can't know..
: Yeah I was reading it all like, man, that really sucks. Then I get to the bottom and see they are pre-30 games... well duh matchmaking isn't gonna work right there. There's a mixture of smurfs and new players playing with older players there. And yeah, you'd think after 9 years he'd know how to build or at least known that flash has been meta since the dawn of time. Edit: Nevermind. Matchmaking was working perfectly fine. Check his op.gg. All the data is there. Those games were very evenly matched level/rank-wise. To add to that, he afk'd in 2 of his last 5 games.
I played the game without flash because back then it was not necessary. You get to get used around that. Just like people playing with fixed camera. Again, do you see me feeding? I still have a healthy contribution - better than my "team mates". Do not overlook that. And the matchmaking is not gonna working only for the enemy side pretty well, that is my point. Giving high-levelled premades that have a history of literally 1000+ games into a game with a Level 6 guy CAN NOT work by default. Why do you call that a match?
: This seems crazy dramatic for pre 30 norm game loses... especially since you either dont know how to actually build ur champ or u were trolling those games. U didnt even take flash, and u went dh, and idk what those items about.
> [{quoted}](name=AnotherFeeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IYay6XyX,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-14T03:19:17.688+0000) > > This seems crazy dramatic for pre 30 norm game loses... especially since you either dont know how to actually build ur champ or u were trolling those games. U didnt even take flash, and u went dh, and idk what those items about. And you fail to see that it still worked out the best? I am not talking about "climbing", I know where I am supposed to be, but within that range, it should work. If you are better than your guys even with Dark Harvest and all that you and like-minded people say, why are my guys **worse **then?
Rioter Comments
: Extremely Immature players since a week ago - something changed
Mh, I had a Fiora (with skin, so she was very proud) that was doing well. She pushed top and was the most pushed lane, so of course, she is priority #1 and also being quickly in danger so close to the enemy nest (= base). She died twice, she is 4/4/0 and posts a surrender on a 24-26 game. She did not even wait the surrender, when the second red bar popped up "FIORA HAS QUIT". She fought almost close to the base - her goal. We were equal in kills and obectives = our goal. Her deed: Surrendering and quitting. What is wrong with these crap players? I know what you mean, man. RIOT's non-existant reporting feature won't do jack shit, so turn on some movie and try to get the time past when you are being held hostage without yourself getting leavermarks..
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Fix your broken game, Riot
I could rip out my hair how Bard's Cosmic Binding (Q) bends the rules. I should collect screenshots and the replay from now on, but when the stun does not count and "vaporizes" despite there is another enemy closely following, or stuns of extra long range that should not happen (even the binding visual effect was interrupted as the A and the B point was so large RIOT didn't intend it I guess) or, my favourite, the "Oh, let's don't stun in a line, but sideways" bullshit when you hit a Minion and a chmp is behind it, it will not stun the champ as supposed, but a minion standing LEFT or RIGHT to it, missing the champ. So, hitboxes are shit in this game.
FâgLord (EUW)
: The best rework riot have ever done
I know what you mean and your joy (I have that with Morgana, she's here since I started so I was amazed how well they updated her), but Nunu - the kid - looks like a cardobard cutout with a static face that reeks "Botox overload". I mean, it's very creepy to look at his never-changing, ever-smiling face. As Bard main, I don't have THAT particular problem though..
: The impossible happened
I have a similar story that, when I tell it to my veteran mates (me and my cousin for example play now since 9 solid years!), we all have to "WOW". There was this very bad Kayn player. His ganks were bad, he died to jungle creeps and well, he was someone you rather wish would disconnect. As Kayn players were so incredibly "toxic" before (not sure what the target group is? Very young male Naruto watchers?) and I am Bard Bard which means I do not talk in ghetto language to reflect my visuals. I kindly said that his skills might leave much to be desired and he just said: _**"Yes, I suck with this champ. I can not play him, I don't like him and I will never play him again. Sorry! I will do my best but after that I will never touch im again."**_ I cried in joy. Every word was right and true. This person was the first that I met since my 9 years that was really aware of it without "no u suckz" or "play challengerzzz men". EDIT: He was not devastated btw. Nobody flamed him. It was just a sincere guy, honest to the bones but looking forward to a champ he might like more.
: To those who never get chat restricted or suspended, how do you do it?
I do /fullmute all in the beginning as I don't really care what my "team mates" have to say. It works.
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