Eedat (NA)
: Supports literally get autofill protection for playing support {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
With it not necessarily being the least popular role any more, would you be overly surprised if Riot removed it giving immunity but never updated that tooltip....?
: > [{quoted}](name=DerMangoJoghurt,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aiJlH4ZA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-18T11:56:55.032+0000) > > What's wrong with playing out a game, even if it's an uphill battle? why would you go 4v5 if you can play 5v5 in other game?
I'll play out a 4v5 if someone quit/dced and we're ahead; but if it's a Remake you can be damn sure I'm pushing that 'Yes' button. Even pushed Remake when it was my Premade that dced....
Azteryz (NA)
: thats also a pretty good one granted we dont know where they went afterwards :c
Yeah, would have been interesting to see how Riven fitted into the Ionia faction; would she go to Karma and beg fogiveness; go to Irelia to teach her Noxian fighting styles and tactics, to better repel them when they inevitably return? There's so much narrative that could be expanded upon, but it never really is.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=IainG10,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cuEXIaQK,comment-id=0010000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T07:11:44.992+0000) > > No; no they don't, because it's _really_ easy to fool the automated system. Riot have erred so far on the side of not penalising people for bad games that as long as you don't literally run it down Mid, you can get away with anything. Soft inting doesnt exist.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cuEXIaQK,comment-id=00100000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T13:31:17.931+0000) > > Soft inting doesnt exist. Not what I said; I said it's easy to fool the bot checking for trolling. E.g. I've seen people go to a side lane, take one minion/take one jungle mob and then run down mid, and repeat that pattern.
: So..... with the Blitz change....... Morgana?
{{champion:89}} "Oh, you grabbed me, now I can save my E for when you try to run" _Qs Blitz in the face_
Azteryz (NA)
: last time i saw any character progression was during the burning tides event graves and TF squashed their beef MF got her revenge on GP GP came back from the dead introductions to TK and Illaoi beautiful
Wasn't the Riven-Yasuo thing after that; where Yas found out that it was his master shattering Riven's Runeblade that killed him
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=IainG10,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cuEXIaQK,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2019-07-16T00:02:35.981+0000) > > Unfortunately that gives trolls a _lot_ of power.... Not really. If they throw the game they get banned.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cuEXIaQK,comment-id=001000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T02:45:22.980+0000) > > Not really. If they throw the game they get banned. No; no they don't, because it's _really_ easy to fool the automated system. Riot have erred so far on the side of not penalising people for bad games that as long as you don't literally run it down Mid, you can get away with anything.
Teh Song (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kenneky,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xHg6oMfO,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-14T18:20:16.160+0000) > > As a Pyke player myself, this skin is just amazing, really like the aesthetic. I couldn't imagine him getting a PROJECT skin tho, since he is a pirate and whatnot. Was hoping for Pool Party skin, It's just feels weird him getting such skin. Non the less, I'm still happy for this skin. its not so much about the robotics as the vengeful premise. Although by that logic Kallista should be with him.
> [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xHg6oMfO,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-07-14T19:12:05.753+0000) > > its not so much about the robotics as the vengeful premise. > Although by that logic Kallista should be with him. If he was unwillingly remade by PROJECT, that's an excellent Sci-fi bersion of his unwilling remake at the hands of the Swimming City
Crashyy (EUW)
: 'Font of Life' rune is very weak.
I constantly get over 3k out of it as a W-Max Lux Support over the course of a game; looks just fine to me.... It's a Team Rune, so if you want good personal results out of it, you are gonna be disappointed, because it's balanced around 5 players rather than 1.
: project jinx is honestly very disappointing
Would look more like Jinx to me if that was the base, and then she'd modded and spray-painted the ever-living fuck out of it.....
Pika Fox (NA)
: Dodging needs to be punished harder than losing. Problem solved.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cuEXIaQK,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2019-07-15T18:09:37.897+0000) > > Dodging needs to be punished harder than losing. Problem solved. Unfortunately that gives trolls a _lot_ of power....
Teh Song (NA)
: That's just the thing, without autofill, queues wouldn't be 10 minutes. They'd be a hell of a lot longer than that. You gotta remember why they made autofill in the first place: there was almost no one choosing support. Without autofill you and a zillion other people would be sitting in queue waiting for one of the dozen players that likes support to log in. You'd spend more time in queue than in the match.
> [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cuEXIaQK,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-15T11:38:14.679+0000) > > That's just the thing, without autofill, queues wouldn't be 10 minutes. > They'd be a hell of a lot longer than that. > > You gotta remember why they made autofill in the first place: there was almost no one choosing support. > Without autofill you and a zillion other people would be sitting in queue waiting for one of the dozen players that likes support to log in. You'd spend more time in queue than in the match. Depends where in the Elo bracket you fall; what would be _sensible_ is either an incentivised opt-in system (like bonus LP for winning in a filled role), or Autofill only kicking in after a cumulative set time queuing (to stop people just delisting then relisting to get around it).
: That's ridiculous. Here in NA, Vel'koz is a commonly chosen support (at least in my elo). I don't see why he wouldn't work in EUW.
He's pretty rare (at least in the mid Elos); people who want to mage Support tend to go with Lux, Brand or Zyra. Honestly don't know why people don't take Vel instead (I tend not to because I usually play a tank or enchanter); I guess people don't think he can shit out unreal damage like those 3 (he totally can).
: > [{quoted}](name=Deathhawk888,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8luWAswe,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-07-14T15:51:26.858+0000) > > Kinda funny that people will gladly have Brand support but hate Vel’Koz support, even though both are mages with zero “support” aspect. i know right! i literally just came out of a ranked game where Kalista adc went 0/10/0 in 15 minutes because she said it was no point in playing with a velkoz support! another 21 lp from me stolen by a troll! this is getting really tilting for me
Vel and Kalista really don't work well together, so whoever picked second should have chosen another champion, but with that said that's no excuse for the Kalista to troll.
toukaftw (NA)
: it flex rank important
This is literally the only thing stopping me from playing Flex, but it's a HARD stop.
: Pretty sure most people would recognize either of Ryze, Ahri, or Katarina instead. Teemo has never been a mascot more than those three.
Except that he's a meme for all the vets. But yeah, I doubt there are many vets that'd quit over Teemo getting changed; if anything most vets'd probably celebrate....
: My take/issue with the new PROJECT reveal
I'm willing to allow the Pyke because he didn't have any Sci-fi based skin up to this point.
: Who are your top 2 champs per position? Please comment
Top: {{champion:82}} {{champion:75}} Jungle: {{champion:31}} {{champion:141}} Mid: {{champion:518}} {{champion:45}} ADC: {{champion:81}} {{champion:222}} Support (Main): {{champion:99}} {{champion:89}}
DeltaDan (EUW)
: If you dont main {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:92}} prey that they dont gut your main
I mean, they even got round to my girl {{champion:99}} , and they're nerfing Support Lux rather than Mid (i.e. the one I play).... Edit: Fuck Aftershock all the way to Hades, Rito have nerfed at least 3 mages separately now for abusing it, but they'd rather do that than actually admit they made a mistake on one of their precious Reborn Runes....
radetari (EUNE)
: I do have to agree on the "play a tank thing" most of the time your team is too squishy and needs a tanky champion to balance a comp a bit if u do have tanks be it toplane or jungle than it is perfectly fine to play a squishy support or u ignore all of the above and play lux, karma and morgana because fuck it am i rite
> [{quoted}](name=radetari,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=415vXRor,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-07-10T17:47:02.346+0000) > > I do have to agree on the "play a tank thing" > most of the time your team is too squishy and needs a tanky champion to balance a comp a bit > > if u do have tanks be it toplane or jungle than it is perfectly fine to play a squishy support > > or u ignore all of the above and play lux, karma and morgana because fuck it am i rite Some times it's just not an option; if the enemy support takes Morgana, Lux, Karma or Brand, good luck with any tank (with the possible exception of Taric).
: This ADC and Support synergy
I once ran {{champion:15}} {{champion:25}} as a combo with my friend for Placements; nothing could touch us in that either.
mack9112 (NA)
: They also nerfed the projectile but let’s just not mention that right boards ?
That has no real impact on whether Yuumi stays attached or floats around loose. Whether it is warranted or not is not the discussion here.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: No ADC is building armor penetration, why is this not talked about?
I think the idea is that ADCs peel things open at their leisure whilst other people hold the enmy down; whereas assassins (who DO buy ArP/Lethality) need to crack their target open in one rotation That said yes, armour is in a terrible place right now. Also, on the rare occasions I ADC and the game reaches late, I do build {{item:3033}} (or even more occasionally when it's just tanks and no drain, a {{item:3036}} )
: > he arguably has the most mobility out of any assassin ????? What drugs are you tripping on * Talon can run through entire walls, the fact it has large per-wall cooldown doesn't help the momentary versatiliy, If this alone isn't more mobility in your book then I suppose you'd need Irelia as Assasin to uncould your bias * Akali... Just Akali... Two long dashes, ms boost on W, ms boost on passive, backflip into unlimited dash... LeSs MObiLitY * Fizz can gapclose practically even distance with E and Q * Ekko has dash into blink plus dash-back * Quiyana already has better mobility, dash from better distance, lowCD microdash plus ms boost on trail * LB can potentially have two long dashes with blink back * Ahri can be the only one comparable since her mobility is mainly ult (even then she has ms boost in basic kit), even then she has three dashes Compare that to Zed's short-range blink in basic kit and two decent-range blinks in ult and at best you can say he is on par with some less mobile assasins. Zed is frustrating to play against and may have some problems, but this sentence alone shows you just came here complaining with bias while not actually critically thinking about anything because saying he has most mobility out of any assassin is not just wrong but plain dumb, especially since Akali exists. > has a very powerful ult that can be used both offensively and defensively Which assassin's ult cannot? Fizz can throw fish into your face for rapid slow and knockup to run away; additionally it's extremly good zoning and isolation tool. Akali can dash to another side of universe, potentially microstunning you in the process; and can deal even higher damage than Zed's ult to multiple people If used with good teamcomp I hope I don't even have to explain why Ekko's ult is much better defensively; and offensively it's much more telegraphed but can deal higher damage than Zed's ult to multiple people. Quiyana can knock-back, stun and damage several targets with max hp scaling; the knock-back isn't the most powerful defensive tool but can be easily used as one. *** > why does he need to have more dmg output then every other assassin on top of this? He doesn't. If I wanted to be lazy I'd just list Akali who is known for overkilling targets. Then there are Rengar, Evelynn, LB, Shadow Assasin Kayn etc. who at worst are equal and quite certainly even better. Also his burst pattern is relatively fair when you compare that to what Rengar, LB, Shadow Assasin Kayn can do. He's BS to play against but you barely provided any non-biased points.
For what it's worth, I think Blue Kayn has the best mobility of any assassin; no lockout on his wall bypass, get's a hunge speed boost, and it has a low CD
: > [{quoted}](name=N1C Jeddy017,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1XvhlKn5,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-07-05T14:54:25.724+0000) > > Really? A worse skin than Pool Party? I don't recall there being a skin like that. Both skins after Pool Party were great. nah i find it hard to believe myself, but bbq leo is easily the worst skin she's ever gotten. i'd say it's almost as bad as augmented singed in terms of being garbage.
Nah, Valkyrie is worse, because at least Pool Party isn't claiming to be battle armour. Iirc, Leona was created in response to people asking for a proper, front line tanky female character; the only female character before her with any armour was Kayle; all the others wore amounts of cloth or leather varying between full (like Lux) to none (like Eve). Pool Party Leona is having a day off and has dressed appropriately. BBQ is in full apron and cooking apparel, and even has protective oven mitts to deal with the fact she's carrying a lit BBQ Valkyrie Leona has turned up to her job as a team's engage wearing Princess Leia's slave bikini and a winged helmet. Valkyrie as a skin goes against the whole design of the character; a Valkyrie-themed skin would be fine, if it had actual armour.
: To this day I still don't get why we couldn't have Solar Eclipse Leona and Lunar Eclipse Diana
They made both concepts for Leona and asked which people preferred; the answer was so close, and since both designs were so similar that making both was worth the effort. The effects are just recolours, and the model difference is only a few spikes on the halo and the sword blade.
: > [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oXkLzaRR,comment-id=000300010000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-04T11:18:16.110+0000) > > And Jinx has the ability to cancel his dash with her E. Not to mention Jinx heavily outranges him. If Jinx is able to kite around him after he dashes, Renekton loses. No. She doesn’t. Her e has a massive delay on it. So unless he has the reaction speed of a corn dog she can’t land it.
She's literally gonna drop it at her feet and stand there as bait: either Renek engages; gets trapped and dies, he waits it out standing there, and dies waiting; or he runs and she escapes.
Moody P (NA)
: And run into the sustain problem we have now where shields are forced to be balanced around the expectation that they'll always be reduced or broken by enemies in demand? Do you want to see every support and tank shitting out 1K shields every cast because nobody on your team bought the item? This approach is far better.
Not say it's good, but certainly better than Item Based (just look at Spear...)
: Except ADC was one of if not the most popular roles back in the "old days" cause you could actually carry. Now ADC in most elos has a much lower playrate. Sure is fun being 5/1 and getting 1-shot by anything that moves. Love all these stupid fucking champs like Sylas/Irelia/Akali that make the game unplayable as ADC. And whenever they get nerfed the next cancer comes out that makes bot lane unplayable.
There has definitely been a decrease in ADCs played anywhere but Bot; we have Vayne/Quinn Top, and the Jungle Rat (I'm not counting the Kindred, they were designed for Jungle). Seasons ago Ezreal, MF, Trist and Lucian were seen Midlane; no longer. Jungle Vayne has died out completely as far as I can tell. Hell, even Kai'sa Mid was a thing on her release.
Ralanr (NA)
: Tahm is a lot harder to kill when he gets going. It’s not worth banning Nasus over Tahm.
Nasus is worth far, far more when he finally stops farming and leaves lane
: Exactly this, there is an obvious pattern and I don't know how people let alone riot haven't paid enough attention to see it.
It was said by Boards every time it happened, but Rito have an absolute phobia of admitting they made a mistake
: She's far from the only champion it gets used on you know? And it doesn't get used mid lane so why nerf that? You're nerfing a champion because of the strength of one very specific use case? As suggested nerf aftershock for ranged champions, takes care of the problem no one else really cares, doesn't effect the melee tanks that like to use it. See how easy this is to fix with a little thinking? WIthout and prior to the use of this rune Lux had much lower popularity and winrate, and still maintains that in mid lane, so the problem is clearly not with the champion by herself. Nerfing the champion like this in this case is the meme.
She IS the 5th or 6th champ receiving a nerf because of Aftershock, most of them CC mages.
Razelth (NA)
: You're the one claiming that people with multiple accounts are hard stuck on their mains more so than on their smurfs. The burden of proof lies on you.
And I have given the proof that is actually aquirable by a non-employee; you have said that since I can't get that my argument is invalid. I have fulfilled my burden as much as I possibly can; you have not even provided insufficient proof; you've just gone 'here are some unreachable goalposts, until you reach them you are not worth listening to'. You clearly have no actual interest in the discussion, you just want to pick apart peoples' best attempts at one. Therefore, not wasting any more time replying to you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Stone766,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tx6M4P2P,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-29T18:56:42.985+0000) > For real, noone really seems to be playing her Yoooo, that's true. I've never seen a new champion with few people playing her. She's not even perma banned in ranked and people don't give an F if she's picked. #I pray to God that Riot doesn't buff her.
> [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tx6M4P2P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-29T22:56:05.874+0000) > > Yoooo, that's true. I've never seen a new champion with few people playing her. She's not even perma banned in ranked and people don't give an F if she's picked. > > #I pray to God that Riot doesn't buff her. TBH, I think part of it is that currently the other AD assassins are in a pretty good spot, and she isn't actually all that different to them in feel. I think she might actually be the least safe AD assassin as well, and that can't help....
: > [{quoted}](name=Diamond Senpai,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WolyAHdr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-29T23:07:01.152+0000) > > Honestly I prefer having a champ that I don't have then a skin on yi that I'll never play. Or even an emote At least you could still get that champion through continuous play. Besides, you could save the skin shard for one you do want later on with how expensive Riot made enchanting skin shards.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WolyAHdr,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-06-29T23:09:25.158+0000) > > At least you could still get that champion through continuous play. > > Besides, you could save the skin shard for one you do want later on with how expensive Riot made enchanting skin shards. Speaking as a fellow veteran, I have every champ except Gnar (including Qiyana, because the difference for early unlock was only 1.5k BE and more people are likely to want to trade Qiyana); I'm now almost at the point where I have the required shards saved up to get every champ to MR7. I keep 1 shard for those I'm on MR6 on, and 2 for all the others (and straight up melt everythiong that's already MR7). Champ shards are pretty much ENTIRELY pointless to me now, apart from as BE, and the only use I have for that is the occasional new release champ, or the even more occasional BE Emporium. I would rather get one of the old 420RP skin shards for a champ I own purely for trading purposes than ANY champ shard. 1OE is worth 1000x more than 1BE to older players.
: I main ADC and I'm a good support cause I watched what my good supports do. Also have quite a few buddies who play support are duh bomb. Shit, I got an S on leona first time i played her from watching these guys help me get double after double. GLORIOUS.
I go Supp/Mid, because I mostly play skillshot cc Supports (Lux, Leona, Morg and Thresh, in that order), and it turns out that translates well to Artillery Mages
iPrawn (NA)
: Pisses me off when our autofilled ADC mains support, and our autofilled support mains ADC.
This is shear laziness in coding, plain and simple. Whilst it would be the work a few hours to include an additional few lines in Lobby to check what the people in it had ACTUALLY selected, anyone with even 2 brain cells to rub together should see that it's worth doing.
: the real question is how the hell did your support manage to get autofilled?
Welcome to the on-and-off clusterfuck situation that is Jungle, and the permanent clusterfuck situation that is Toplane. Riot has completely destroyed the fun of the former, and has never even touched the latter.
Razelth (NA)
: Plenty is relative to how many players there are. The boards is a very small sample to the overall playerbase. If you can atleast give me stats showing that 50%+ of the playerbase that makes smurfs to play ranked with are harder stuck on their main than their smurf, I'll believe you.
The day that Rito actually survey any form of satisfaction beyond occasionally popping up an un-nuanced 'out of 5' box is the day they actually admit something is wrong; something the current corporate control will NEVER do (they've actively decreased data transparency for crying out loud). So short of somehow hacking the client server myself to put that kind of data gathering question out (which I have neither the skills nor the desire to do), we have to go with the data we have, which is the Boards (and to a lesser extent Reddit). The stats you are asking for are only aquirable by Riot, and without a SERIOUS player push to do so they never will. So I'm gonna throw your argument right back at you and say that without the data, you can't prove it's NOT what's happening. It physically pains the scientist within me to do so, but I also believe that insufficient data is better than no data, and whilst my data is insufficient (at least at a proper scientific level), it is non-zero.
Razelth (NA)
: Everyone says matchmaking is rigged and broken. Really it isn't. People have been able to climb out of every ELO. When people can't climb, it isn't matchmaking. Its their own lack of skill. Matchmaking affects everyone in the game. It doesn't favor anyone. It affects everyone the same way. There is no secret that can be abused. Its just ridiculous to blame matchmaking. Every season I've played ranked in I've been able to reach a higher peak than the season before. Improve your own skill before blaming a system that affects everyone the same way it affects you.
Which is of course why there are plenty of people with multiple accounts that say their lower ranked account is harder stuck than their main..... I am not one of those people myself, but there's a fair few of them in this very thread
: Easy champions that you yourself are not good at?
: ***
Thresh came before Yas, and at least if you put a Thresh down he stays there. Yas builds 2 items and becomes God
: Which is why the playerbase keeps getting smaller I guess :/
If they leave silently Rito can go 'Oh well, another one who prefers Fortnite; nothing we can do there'
: I'm a Kayle main, and I think the rework is total shit. Her build got fucked up because they gave her attack speed. Her playstyle has degenerated to Klepto abuse. Her unique laning got removed by removing her old E. Her healing is fucking shit now because it isn't single target anymore. Please fix my champion.
Don't forget they changed the way her Ranged-Mode works so that Yas's Windwall can stop it. Old Kayle used to be my go-to Yas killer....
Razelth (NA)
: You are the one unchanging factor in your ranked games. You can't blame everything on your team. People have been able to climb out of that ELO before, its not matchmaking. Your losing streak sounds like its an issue of consistency and unstable mental state. You should've taken a break way before you lost that many games in a row.
Matchmaking is an unchanged factor in every Ranked game, and it is a steaming pile of shit currently
: > level of satisfaction Pride and Accomplishment!
Well, Tencent are EA's biggest fans (at least business model-wise); buy up any IP that might make you money, and run it into the ground trying to milk every fast buck you can out of it
: Malphite should get oneshot if he ults into a windwall
Were this in Memes it'd get an Upvote; since it's in Gameplay it gets a Downvote
: Issue is, you hit Conq too hard, champs like Aatrox only have Grasp to use, and that doesn't give him a good chunk of damage.
True, there does need to be a decent option for champs like Aatrox, but Conq has more abusers than balanced users. Also, Electrocute shouldn't be too bad on him.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=eTJhtogg,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-23T01:38:06.615+0000) > > I'm kind of annoyed they still haven't hit the actual problem and are targeting Riven. > > If they would just fix Conqueror so it doesn't allow you to stack it multiple times from abilities that hit multiple times, like it already does for abilities that apply a DoT, it would nerf it on champions who can abuse it like that while simultaneously allowing them to buff it for champions who don't. Shes so good right now, you dont even need conq.
Not disagreeing, but they do also need to hit Conq...hard.
: In addition to lower queue times, autofill encourages players to learn new roles and champs as well as encouraging them to form their own teams. If you queue up as a team you don't have to worry about autofill, and being able to play any position helps you to become a better player in every position.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkfire1408,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MehEyk7N,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-23T19:09:26.584+0000) > > In addition to lower queue times, autofill encourages players to learn new roles and champs as well as encouraging them to form their own teams. If you queue up as a team you don't have to worry about autofill, and being able to play any position helps you to become a better player in every position. You want that, then we should go back to Pick Order. All Autofill is doing is encouraging people to FF the 1 in 3/4 games they're autofilled to go next, where they are assured their role and plan to carry with it. Or they leave and requeue at the prediction mark in the hopes that Autofill passes them over this time
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