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Mihalikb (EUW)
: Uhum. Just like how Steraks was abused by ADCs, Tabi was abused by everyone, Shojin is being abused by some ADCs etc. Items that give situational power spikes even defensive ones do get abused if the opportunity arises. You also haven't addressed how you would stop supports from abusing them.
ADCs and assassins are different classes. Katarina and Akali won't build those bruiser AP items for the same reason Zed and Talon don't build Sterak's and are better off going into a LDR or BC due to the passives, not the stats.
: > [{quoted}](name=Doc Strange,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=w0H8h5c7,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-17T21:49:01.409+0000) > > I like to skim through these posts about how the summoner doesn't deserve the ban even though they clearly do. > I want to know that if they were standing in front of the guy that they flamed, would they still say those same words that got them banned? > What is happening to these people that makes them act like this? I 100% would say everything to them in person to as most of the time I end up defending my self of blatant harassment and if it comes down to it I'd fight them as well.
Sadly idiots here don't get that. They probably grew up in a culture where their schools often punished them for punching back bullies but if someone was ruining my game, I'd 100% have the same reaction. Truth be said most people in real life don't act as obnoxious as those in LoL do because it takes bigger balls to ruin other people's day in person.
: KDA Gragas
Goodbye sleep.
: Let's talk about these people who are getting banned for being "Toxic"
I'd rather punch them in the face for being an obnoxious, ignorant, utter moron. I don't flame a player until they are either hard feeding or trolling. I recently got a chat restrict for telling this Kaisa jungle on my other account to stop trolling after she decided to walk into my lane, take my CS, and then feed my laner to try and tilt me. She then followed me around the map for no reason while I kept losing my exp to an uninvited shared laner. To anyone who cries about how I shouldn't express my discontent, and should quietly accept another person sticking their hand up my anus can fuck off. You may cry about the rules of the game but if this were the real world, realize that 90% of the people who troll and hard feed from behind their keyboards wouldn't bother doing it due to fear of being kicked in the balls. >I want to know that if they were standing in front of the guy that they flamed, would they still say those same words that got them banned? They wouldn't do shit to agitate me in the first place if this was the real world.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Kata best waifu,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=W1VgXxPM,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-13T10:19:58.442+0000) > > I don't want to play ADC, and I don't need to. And it doesn't matter what my MMR is because even at Iron level my opponents should be of the same skill level and not above. > > Telling me to play ADC because your average ADC is an idiot isn't a reason for me to take up their role. You are playing in Iron, it's the god damn wild wild west. You need to get better to carry yourself out. Also, how you going to complain about it always being bot lanes fault you lose when your last game, you went 3/9 as Jax and your bot lane hard carried your ass?
You may be a moron but comments from diamond players here tell me otherwise.
: It's just that runes have really polarized bot lane. Your "feeders" probably aren't actually feeders. They are bad communicators or slow to react to their duo lane. For example, my Plat I partner last night was behaving erratic, probably sleepy, but wanted to play. Got into game with him as Morgana Support vs Tristana/Shaco. I traded kills with their Rengar jungle level 1, who dove turret to kill me after his team invaded. My duo literally recalled rather than peeling me, or I would have had FB and not died. Then, in lane, Shaco was horribly out of position, got Q rooted three times, and on the second time, actually dropped to 1-5 HP. My duo took 5-6 seconds to decide to go in, by which time Shaco just Decieved out, and Tristana had been poking me while I'm trying to kill Shaco. I Q'd Trist; she bombed my duo, and killed him because he used his dash to "too late" try to kill Shaco, so now he was a sitting duck. She kills him, kills me on the reset. This lack of response defined that entire game. I repeatedly caught and set up people for kills the entire game. Repeatedly..... my duo and rest of team hesitated to use anything, and I think I was the only CC on our entire team, so literally.... not using It = fast base destruction, loss. ----- ^ Happens to one team every single game, unless both teams are duos, excessively practiced, etc, and Lethal Tempo or PTA ensure that it happens.
That only makes me more worried about the incoming ADC nerfs. I think I'll stick to only Dota 2 now where marksmen aren't treated like trash and actually have the option to solo lane/escape without having to be babysat by a support. Literally every role bar assassin, mages, and support are about to get gutted pre-season and I can only imagine the shit toplane, jungle, and ADC mains will have to deal with after the changes go through. Whatever role you play in top or jungle won't matter at that point with the changes incoming.
Mihalikb (EUW)
: I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm pointing out that "overtuned" is relative as they are balanced around the items currently available to them. It's easier to tune a couple of Champs around the current itemization than it would be to tune all mages, supports (do you really want a Morgana with an extra 300hp or a Tresh that is tankier than he already is?) and AP brusiers around a couple of new items. Think of the last AD Brusier item they added which ended up completely breaking several Champs. Spear of Shojin and the absolutely ridiculous power spike it gives to some Champs.
Yes, and as such they need better items so they can be balanced more accurately. These champions are very hard to balance as it is, and trying to fit bruisers to work better with assassin/mage items only lead to more balance disasters. All you need to do is make AP bruiser items sacrifice some CDR and AP for added HP. Mages need CDR and AP so you most likely won't ever see that Ahri build an item which gives you only 50 AP and 400 HP. Champions like Ekko, Mord, and Fizz will however, as these guys are meant to be good at drawn out skirmishes.
Mihalikb (EUW)
: And how do you prevent Akali and Katarina or maybe even Kassadin from abusing it?
They won't coz they require burst damage. Katarina rushing an AP bruiser item is the equivalent of Zed rushing a Cleaver when in most cases he's better off with an LDR, and even that as a last item.
Saezio (EUNE)
: I think abyssal Mask needs a big revamp. Remove the mana completely for more HP or for Armor. Make it the bread and butter for AP oriented tankier champions and make it convert 5-10% of done magic damage to true damage like conqueror. Reduce it's range a little more obviously and make it only affect the user.
That would be an amazing change. At the moment the only champions I build {{item:3001}} on is Jax for the added mana and damage from his W and ult passive, and Amumu coz he is the only one who the item gels with well.
: {{item:3157}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3027}} Nah. Looks fine to me.
Literally none barring Liandry's or Rylais is a good item for Sylas or Morde. Both of them are better off building Protobelt over ROA due to the CDR and active, and Liandrys and Rylais are the only good AP bruiser item other than protobelt. I literally mention that in my post. Do you not read it before commenting?
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Muzen (NA)
: yeah i think this happens everywhere. it just happened to me in silver and then at the end of the match the adc tell us she is new to the game. then she was asked why is she in ranked in silver road to gold? then she's like i'm bronze 2 but shouldn't she be in iron 2? anyways she fed like crazy and didn't even take heal...i'm not sure playing adc can save you from an inting team. i mean yeah i did carry a few matches as adc in my 2nd role but it doesn't mean you will climb this way, and if the sup is trolling ull even have a worse time than the other lanes.
Truth be said, no role can solo carry in this day and age. The bot lane makes a big difference coz you have two teammates to feed there and it's the ADC players who are the most clueless and fucking r%%%%%ed in 90% of the cases.
Mihalikb (EUW)
: Typical Bruiser first items would be Black Cleaver or more commonly Trinity Force. One costs 3000 gold the other 3733. Protobelt costs 2500g. So typically an AP Bruiser or Mage gets back to lane with a completed item on their second back while an AD gets their first full item on their third back. Every single one of the Champs you listed are already doing extremely well. They either have massive amounts of sustain in their kits like Vlad who also becomes immune to damage as a defensive move or Mordekaiser, or Sylas' massive heals. And Fizz is incredibly mobile and can become immune to damage for short times. The problem with AP itemization is that it's shared with Mages. If Mages get any more HP than they already get, they just become ranged assasin/juggernauts.
All of those champions do well only because they're overtuned. Vlad needs a nerf. Mordekaiser has an overtunes shield, and Sylas's entire kit is overloaded.
: > [{quoted}](name=Kata best waifu,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VE49Pn5A,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-13T08:46:59.666+0000) > > ADCs are collectively the most clueless group of players. > > If there's anybody feeding on my team, 90% says it's the ADC going 1/8. As a support main, I see this all over the place. More often than not, my ADC always blames me when they get hooked and most of my deaths happen when I try to save them. I hardly die after laning phase because of this.
> [{quoted}](name=The Enchantress,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VE49Pn5A,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-13T09:24:29.358+0000) > > As a support main, I see this all over the place. More often than not, my ADC always blames me when they get hooked and most of my deaths happen when I try to save them. I hardly die after laning phase because of this. If it were upto me, I'd remove the dragon to get done with the duo bot all together, but the moment you say it you have a bunch of underage ADC players who cry about how their role is difficult when it literally the second easiest role after support.
Jamaree (NA)
: You have two options then, learn to play ADC or shrug and just go along with it, that said, your MMR is likely iron with a 20% win rate.
I don't want to play ADC, and I don't need to. And it doesn't matter what my MMR is because even at Iron level my opponents should be of the same skill level and not above. Telling me to play ADC because your average ADC is an idiot isn't a reason for me to take up their role.
: i just need to duo. thats how to climb
ADCs are collectively the most clueless group of players. If there's anybody feeding on my team, 90% says it's the ADC going 1/8. Arguably it's a far easier role than top and jungle, and yet I don't see top laners feed as often.
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: LMAO YOU ARE BRONZE WITH A 12% WIN RATE 2 AND 15 AND YOU WANT TO SAY ITS ONLY CUZ OF BOT LANE.
I stopped taking you seriously the moment I saw you type in caps with that grammar.
Krynnˉ (NA)
: Focus on myself and try to do my best. No matter what some people will tell you, not every game is winnable. You are one person out of a team of 5, you can't hard carry your own division. Challenger players for example can hard carry Diamond players because they are Challenger, but for most of us, that's just not realistic and should not be viewed as such. You carry through consistency, as long as you aren't the one feeding you will win most of your games. Having a duo you trust will also increase chances of winning if they have the same mind set. Just play to win every game and hope the enemy team doesn't know how to abuse a lead properly and try to build a lead from the little mistakes I'm certain they're making. On a side note, the reason bot feeds more, or appears to be, is because they can't do what a top laner like Darius can do and just go bramble vest into ninja tabi and slog through lane phase if they feed one or two kills.Nnot even to mention that if one person dies bot lane, the other person will die aswell in most cases. So they get 2 kills instead of one. Also, they have a much easier time getting plates since they are ranged AD and also have a support. This allows the enemy ADC to essentially control the lane, and with supports like Leona in the META, they can just dive you under turret or keep you out of XP range. TL;DR: Suck it up, go next, don't get tilted, and win through consistency. Tilting over unwinnable games will make you lose the winnable ones.
I agree with your last line but it's fucking impossible with this game. I played another match where my bot lane goes 2/11 and 1/8 each. Needless to say we lost.
: as many times that you have a bot lane that feeds you are going to have the enemy team that has a lane that feeds. its ebb n flow it balances out. dont care,. move on, there is another game
Fuck off with that talk of balance. Look at my match history. Another game where my bot lane goes 2/11 and 1/8 each. Don't preach to me about balance because my bot lane has constantly been feeding and Riot does nothing about improving their matchmaking.
: dont care, move on , there is another game
Tell me if your next game is any different and brings back extra LP.
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: Just watched the match in question:- https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/4225528690/2248129275801504?tab=overview You didn't perform poorly because you were camped. You and your team performed poorly because the enemy team was just better. Ekko visited your lane as often as everyone else. The enemy team just outplayed you guys at every turn. You all kept playing super aggressive and failing miserably. It happens. Can't win them all.
You're a common troll around these parts. No, Ekko literally took plate after plates while Udyr types in chat "bot lane I'm on the way". None of us played super aggressive, in fact playing so passive I gave up tons of CS as well as an entire turret worth of plating. If I were playing aggressive in this match, I'd have way more deaths than just five. This isn't even constructive advice when most of the team played safe waiting for jungle help and you accuse them of playing aggressive.
: > [{quoted}](name=AnnnXu,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=czbP8YhE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-11T23:14:55.506+0000) > > Why on earth would you mention it then? > > If you genuinely wanted to, you'd mute their pings and move on. Does it make you feel better to say it out loud, or do you think it makes a bigger impact if you convey it to them before you actually press the button? I prefer at least some communication with teammates, even if it's to let them know that, or give them a single opportunity to stop doing it.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=czbP8YhE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-12T00:57:34.852+0000) > > I prefer at least some communication with teammates, even if it's to let them know that, or give them a single opportunity to stop doing it. Well aren't you'll pretentious pricks then? I've have people tell me that every time I play jungle and tell them to stop overextending, and it makes them look like people who need acknowledgement on how indifferent they are. It just make them look indifferent.
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: > [{quoted}](name=LightswornLance,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AtkLMAz6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-11T23:31:57.218+0000) > > Bronzies only look at kda, mute them, nothing they could say as a bronze player will positively impact the game. Play a carry champ, win lane, 1v9 the game. Winning lane doesn't equate to winning the game anymore. Not with damage levels as high as they are. If you do well in lane and get really fed, it doesn't matter unless the rest of your team also won their lanes, because no matter how fed you are you can still get 100-0 by someone who's even moderately strong.
That's true. What makes it worse is the amount of CC in the game. Now I don't usually have problems with feeding as I can usually go even, but god do my teammates feed. In games where I get camped and can't carry it's pretty much lost. I have been way ahead of bronze but never played this shit on EuW. The junglers here seem to be fucking brainless.
: Bronzies only look at kda, mute them, nothing they could say as a bronze player will positively impact the game. Play a carry champ, win lane, 1v9 the game.
Oh I did play Kata. I have over a million mastery points on her and I could finally get mid lane on a game after 4 or so tries. No, couldn't roam bot coz ADC was feeding his ass off, and couldn't stay in lane coz their jungler literally sat there taking plates after plates as I watched from under the second turret as my jungler refused to help.
: I guess I don't find myself overly sensitive. The last time someone was bothering me in game, they spam-pinged me. After mentioning I was muting their pings because they conveyed no information, I was told "later fucker," or something to that degree. So you report them and move onto the next game. I don't get bothered by other toxic/rude players, and if other players don't want to listen to my calls, that's their prerogative.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=czbP8YhE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-11T22:22:29.005+0000) > > I guess I don't find myself overly sensitive. The last time someone was bothering me in game, they spam-pinged me. After mentioning I was muting their pings because they conveyed no information, I was told "later fucker," or something to that degree. So you report them and move onto the next game. I don't get bothered by other toxic/rude players, and if other players don't want to listen to my calls, that's their prerogative. Why on earth would you mention it then? If you genuinely wanted to, you'd mute their pings and move on. Does it make you feel better to say it out loud, or do you think it makes a bigger impact if you convey it to them before you actually press the button?
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