: > [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WizmyFEi,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-19T19:29:05.875+0000) > > People don't even achknowledge that the champion is useless before 5 items since his abilities are bad, which makes them think shaco is early game champ lol Hes midgame to late. Used to be an early game tho
ye, before rework. After assassins update this base damages and base stats got gutted. Also shaco doesn't even scale on his own tbh, he just buys items which scale the best and abuses them with his invis
: i agree with that statement. But honestly it does piss me off when a zed misses his all of his q's and then just auto , e's you to death. it should no work like that.
if that happens it either means: a)you have 0 armor in your build b) zed killed you like 4 times before
: Is hecarim ever going to get counterplay to his E
Hecarim will get counterplay to his e when we'll get counterplay to ADCs autoattacks. which probably means never
: Tank meta was the lesser of two evils
someone who spams zac, shen and maokai misses the tank meta, more news at 11. Not a biased thread at all
: > [{quoted}](name=nachocheeseeeee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=95wg65qZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-11T17:45:53.720+0000) > but she turned out to be a diver. With how fast Camille kills me and from how far away she engages, she might as well be an assassin.
oHammeRo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nJXpKRZw,comment-id=0004000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-11T10:24:39.124+0000) > > yes let's bring back the unavoidable q spam without any real resource which also granted him sustain, old shen was so cool!!!! Yeah unavoidable q spam thats free of cost and heals the Champion is the worst. Glad they took that out of League. {{champion:8}} Oh wait...
vlad is another sack of bullshit, but don't act like old shen was a healthy laner
: And the mages&supports should do what exactly when faced with a rammus? Or those AD who cant fit QSS into their builds?
OP stated that rammus can buy qss. If Rammus can buy qss, then fucking everyone can
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yclmRFu8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-11T10:21:47.203+0000) > > I'd rather we revert rammus Q being a channel, feels so bad when playing him Eh, it's a balancing factor, a 300% movespeed rammus running at you from the brush has little to no reaction time, if the channel is taken away he can build QSS to make essentially inescapable ganks from just outside tower range, and with how the meta is, 1 successful gank = you lost your tower and your laner is up 1000+ gold
> he can build QSS to make essentially inescapable ganks well you can too build qss and make rammus ganks useless, without his taunt he isn't even a champion
: #revertShen.
yes let's bring back the unavoidable q spam without any real resource which also granted him sustain, old shen was so cool!!!!
: then he wont ult
then you will survive? sounds good
Kaisha (NA)
: I think RIOT just wants all AP casters out of the game entirely. Anytime they're more than simply fodder for assassins they get nerfed into the ground.
that's why ryze is the toplaner in the pro play and that's why mages dominate soloq yeah buddy ur totally right
: Qiyana is made purely for the LCS viewership!
since Zed is our last pure ad assassin, i'd say that she's welcome to the game. And no, Pyke doesn't count. He's a support. And Kayn doesn't count either, due to Rhaast and transformation bullshit
Bârd (NA)
: There's a lot of complaints you can make about Kai'sa, but "targeted abilities that one shot people" is not one of them. She literally doesn't have any targeted abilities.
after her release (and hotfix buffs) kai'sa could kill some squishes with her 12-missiles Q only. But i don't think that happens anymore
R4ndom F1nn (EUNE)
: A tip for starting junglers
if ur playing maokai vs teemo then yes, sometimes i might come. but if ur playing maokai versus any tank or 2 vs 1 type of bruiser like rene/darius/riven then ur staying alone forever
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=SuicidePlank,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PnBjLFxV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-01T21:21:10.927+0000) > > How does he want to achieve 50% Armor Pen? The {{item:3071}} and {{item:3033}} basically come close to 50% armor reduction ( like 45 or so) well on the {{item:3075}} {{champion:102}} anyway.
i can't see a build where urgot owns {{item:3033}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3812}} and is not squishy enough to be popped in 2 secs
: I queue ADC-Mid and I get ADC basically all games, which is awesome
: a sol has a better scaling. his play style is unique and he is a lot harder to play
sol isn't even really hard to play
SP00NS (NA)
: Why is Lee sin in every single meta?
he was mediocre for majority of s7 and first half of s8 his kit is just versatile. He and J4 are base staples of junglers, and if jungle is weak these two usually get really popular
: > [{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JPOz5rV2,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-05-26T06:35:46.367+0000) > > Tbh they just should make Yasuo's blink from ult to work like Kai'sa R dash, make him literally pinpoint where he's going to be, and if he's get caught by turret shot it'll be his fault > > > Also this mechanics probably saves his ass in 1 of 10 games, idk guys why you complain that much about that No way in hell. Maybe if it didn’t reset his stupid free shield passive.
They can change his R to "Kai'sa R System" and nerf his ult as a power shift.
TheGrot (NA)
: Veigar has a base movespeed of 340. Orianna has 325 but also has a low cooldown speed buff.
i agree, veigar should lose 10 MS
TheGrot (NA)
: Buff Anivia Movespeed
No? Immobile mages like Anivia, Orianna, Veigar etc. are supposed to have low MS? They compensate it with their cc, zone control and damage.
: Can Yasuo Ult Stop Taking Him Out of Turret Range?
Tbh they just should make Yasuo's blink from ult to work like Kai'sa R dash, make him literally pinpoint where he's going to be, and if he's get caught by turret shot it'll be his fault Also this mechanics probably saves his ass in 1 of 10 games, idk guys why you complain that much about that
: But the hardest counters to Tahm Top are melee Toplaners, dont fall into another circlejerk you In fact Tham has a 55.74% winrate against Quinn in lane lul
how these Quinns manage to die versus him? Do they take PTA or what? Phase Rush/Glacial Augument quinn is untouchable by Tahm, idk why people dont take these
: That's why the Gameplay Boards will complain about him till the end of the world
gameplay boards are probably locking Riven into him and complaining about his dmg or whatever just pick ranged top and make him unable to play the game, ez pz, glacial augument quinn for the win
: Tahm Kench in top lane is filthy
Tahm is a crutch for bad toplaners, that's a fact
: ADCs overperform in damage metas. It's why we used to have tanks.
if adcs overperform in dmg meta it means they would be blatantly busted in tank meta. ADCs need nerfs
: Isnt it time we nerf jinx now?
lets nerf every adc some way, but nerf jinx and sivir double
: You can't plug up all the holes on a sinking ship.
you can find a duoq partner, 2 plug ups are usually enough to sail to victory
: But Yasuo isn't a cute adc.
patch 9.11: Yasuo: Thighs size increased by 150% ez pz, Yas is now on Kai'sa lvl
Ryzê (NA)
: is there a thematic reason why yasuo gets placed outside turret range during his R?
Because Kai'sa R and Yasuo R are spells which have the same function, and while Kai'sa can pinpoint exact location where she'll land Yasuo cannot. Due to Yasuo having no real control about his landing he should be put outside of turret range if it's possible. Otherwise Yasuo should get Kai'sa treatment and be able to pinpoint where he wants to appear after clicking R.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oHrMAAma,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-05-20T19:03:15.376+0000) > > Oh it's not about my games, he has just been too broken on pro play for enough time and that's why they are looking for a way to stop it > > Be it another rework or more nerfs, I welcome any of them Wait wait wait wait, hold the phone. Yasuo has a PR/WR/BR of 16.0%/47.2%/51.0% at plat+. That doesn't look very broken to me. Yas isn't broken, but he is a pain in the ass to play against. Those are two separate things.
: This burst meta has got to end
burst meta exists only because current lvl of burst is required to combat ridiculous amount of DPS which adcs and mages like cassio/ryze output. If you want to lower burst then you need to lower dmg of DPS classes too.
: What champs do you actually find fun anymore?
{{champion:64}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:79}} these champions are my favs, all of them are extremely fun to play while having some mechanics to learn and outside of Gragas they can easily carry alone. Gragas can too, but he's more enemy-being-dumb dependent
: Nah
all rankeds which i lost and most rankeds which i won on eune were only due to bot difference, please nerf adcs and supports
Zac x Me (NA)
: Soraka's gameplay feels utterly lame
enchanters are lame, more news at 11
: Nerf {{champion:13}} {{champion:8}} please
: https://imgur.com/a/3lx5G20 Who would win: One 12 hp ~~redhead~~ blonde gurl A whole well formed team with a ranged toplaner
better bot wins ofc, you're one lvl ahead of kaisa which makes it pretty obvious
: Nah we should delete it. It’s part of the reasons tanks are unplayable.
tanks are definitely playable but whatever
: I wish that champ was never even created. Sigh.
same, but i wish that enchanters were never created instead of pyke
: > [{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WiZTzKnk,comment-id=000d00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T18:42:49.408+0000) > > thats better than losing 1/2th of your hp because lategame tristana decided to rightclick you from 700 range Draven does the same fucking thing late game. Da fuq?
no, he have 550 range. Also his axes either tell you how he'll move or he won't pick em and lose tons of damage. That's a tradeoff which i really like, find me any other adc who needs to trade damage for unpredictability?
: > [{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WiZTzKnk,comment-id=000d000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-15T08:26:21.501+0000) > > Draven is the most balanced adc in league history with great tradeoffs and counterplay. More adcs should be like draven, and less adcs should be like fucking jinx Oh yeah. Losing 1/4th of your hp in every auto attack past level 0 because Draven exists is totally not cancerous. -.-
thats better than losing 1/2th of your hp because lategame tristana decided to rightclick you from 700 range
: > [{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WiZTzKnk,comment-id=00160000,timestamp=2019-05-15T08:29:24.890+0000) > > oh yes, the tragedy of botlaners, you have it so hard with your randomized bonobo. In reality it doesnt matter cuz there are two options: > -your support is terrible: congratulations, you can farm with your ranged aa/spells and scale. You won't die unless you'll misplay or follow your "dumb" support > -your adc is terrible: leave him and roam mid/top, you dont need a smart ADC if your mid and top are winning hard. > > the point is that botlaners always can do something if their botlane partner is terrible, but toplaners can't do jackshit if they get counterpicked hard (bonus points if they get tons of jungle pressure from enemy) Oh really? Go play 50 ranked games in bot and you come back report your results. Your match history doesn't show like you know the lane. Go do that and report back.
played my fair share of alistar,leona and gragas supp in this and last season, i won't play 50 games just to give you a proof. Botlaners just whine too hard, and usually the whiners are the inferior part of botlane duo
Syrile (NA)
: This is League now. Remove tactical play in favor of constant fighting with no vision or actual strategy.
this opinion is very wrong and you should be ashamed. also more vision doesn't equal more strategy. Hell, i'd say that more vision removes a lot of strategic play
: Try Bot lane. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} You're the ADC? It's your Support's fault You're the Supp? It's your ADC's fault At least top you're by yourself. You have no idea what is having to deal with a random new bot partner every game. Are they good? Are they horrible? Good luck figuring that out and if you do bad, it will always be your fault, never your partner's.
oh yes, the tragedy of botlaners, you have it so hard with your randomized bonobo. In reality it doesnt matter cuz there are two options: -your support is terrible: congratulations, you can farm with your ranged aa/spells and scale. You won't die unless you'll misplay or follow your "dumb" support -your adc is terrible: leave him and roam mid/top, you dont need a smart ADC if your mid and top are winning hard. the point is that botlaners always can do something if their botlane partner is terrible, but toplaners can't do jackshit if they get counterpicked hard (bonus points if they get tons of jungle pressure from enemy)
: > [{quoted}](name=Call Me Draven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WiZTzKnk,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-05-15T00:21:20.179+0000) > > Draven? Cancer? no.......... Definetly cancer. Most annoying adc in existence to lane against.
Draven is the most balanced adc in league history with great tradeoffs and counterplay. More adcs should be like draven, and less adcs should be like fucking jinx
: I'm not opposed to that either. I'd much rather have the old abyssal sceptor as an AP/MR item than the new banshee's.
old abyssal was pure cancer item and everyone outside of kata mains should be glad it's gone
: Wait...Why does Akali still have a grace period when leaving her shroud?
> you can't reveal her and it allows her to sit under your turret this already got changed, educate yourself before making "balance" threads
Saianna (EUNE)
: Olaf sounds pretty solid. Early might be painfull but lategame he's best at everything.
olaf will get hard dicked by any ranged with one (or more) dash
: Cinderhulk needs more hp early since tank junglers still get blown the fuck up by everyone else while not being able to retaliate. If not hp then at likw 20 armor and mr
well as far as i know tanks shouldn't be unkillable with one cheap tank item
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