Terozu (NA)
: Uhhh no Lux would not join the Dauntless Vanguard. Garen was scouted, Lux was not. And 'boob plate' armor doesn't bring extra risk. That's a misconception.
> Uhhh no Lux would not join the Dauntless Vanguard. Garen was scouted, Lux was not. Doesn't change the fact Lux received training in combat. Ofc they chose Garen over her and I doubt Lux would have want to join the Dauntless Vanguard anyway, but it doesn't change the fact if something would have happened to Garen, Lux could have fulfilled his role instead. Not consider Boob Amor is STILL less pratical than normal armor. Also how in the hell this is suppose to be comfortable to wear for a woman. Like seriously, bras are already more than annoying to deal with... Boob Armor is just bad visual design to begin with it. I get it why champion from Season 1 and 2 look they do, but at this point there is no reason to defend it. It is bad visual design. It is boring visual design. Tianna Crownguard shows you can have a femine looking amor design without using Boob Armor.
: I know you didn't ask me, but the way I do it is by right clicking -> Inspect -> Sources (using Chrome). You can always find the background images somewhere in the little left window, although the exact location changes from time to time.
Thanks for the help, personally I never will be good with that kind of stuff.
Terozu (NA)
: Lux's armor is primarily decorative though. It's not meant for outright combat.
> Lux's armor is primarily decorative though. > > It's not meant for outright combat. Only that the old Lux Bio (which was shorten this year) literally says she was trained alongside her brother which let assume theoretically Lux could joined the Dauntless Vanguard instead. > From the earliest age, both Lux and Garen were taught to fight, to ride, and to hunt. But where Garen chose to follow family tradition to join the Dauntless Vanguard - one of Demacia's elite fighting regiments - Lux harbored dreams of venturing beyond Demacia's borders to explore the wider world. Even if she didn't joined the Dauntless Vanguard, she still had more physical training. > During her stay, she befriended a knight of the Radiant Ones, the warrior order of the Illuminators, named Kahina. She regularly sparred with Kahina between the many balls and functions she was expected to attend with her family, quickly establishing a deep bond with the warrior woman. In contrast to ingame, we can assume that Lux is actually probably a good fighter. It makes ZERO sense why in the hell she would wear a decorative armor, especially if these bring by far more risk than normal cloths would do.
: Good catch! Here is the full-size image without text: https://universe-meeps.leagueoflegends.com/v1/assets/images/What_Once_Sailed_Free.jpg And here is the important slice: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/569515732593803266/570310574156808193/tianna_crownguard.png Can't wait for tomorrow, hopefully we'll find out more about the comic or novella (both?)
Thanks Fabian! Feel free to give me a small crash course how to get the art files via the Universe website, I know you did that once for Fal and I already forgot how to do so.
: Is Tiana their mother?
No, their aunt. >His father, Pieter, was a decorated military officer, while his aunt Tianna was Sword-Captain of the elite Dauntless Vanguard—and both were recognized and greatly respected by King Jarvan III. (Garen Bio) We know the name of their mother as well, which is Augatha. (Flesh and Stone)
Rioter Comments
: So why exactly are we getting the lame signature icons instead of the champion portraits?
There was heavy backlash last time with the scrapped icon from people who main the champion but don't care about esport. Like, Taliyah Mains wanted to get her icon and had to pay around 1100 more RP for an icon which was cut out of the splashart. Especially since it will cost 2 time as much as a normal border icon. They changed it so signature so only people who actualy eSport fans gonna get it. Also, did you saw that splashart? It would be HELLA difficult to keep the different champions apart.
: The question is how much of the SJW kool-aid is spilled on this comic. Will it be heavily affected by a forced agenda? I am being 100% serious. If anyone has the answer to if this comic is tainted, or if it's actually good let me know. I don't trust Marvel. They are currently "woke". So until Disney puts a leash on them I can't rely on them putting out a good product.
A) Marvel is only the distributor of the comics. Riot has no experience in publish it and Marvel is their partner their choice to work with. Marvel has zero influence on the intent of the comics. B) Oh please. Let me guess, how dare even Riot thinking about LGBT+ stuff or adress political themes? I will tell a small secret - stories and art resonate so much more with LGBT folks than you would expect. A lot of active lore loving members are a) either female and/or b) LGBT+. There is a reason why the lore has so many powerful womans. A big world, a good story, needs different approach and point of view. You don't have to like with it or agree with it but it BELONGS to it. Good art is by far more political than people like to admit it. Good art, in the end, is a snapshot of the Zeitgeist of the moment, so it should be politicial and/or philosophical.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Art looks questionable, they are probably still experimenting? However much prefer Ashe art!
Different art style for different stories makes sense. Or the writer likes a different artstyle, also fair. Not gonna lie, I dislike the cover as well - mostly because I quite frankly see no reason for Lux to keep her stupid boob armor in the comic - but we only have seen the cover, so it is too early to judge.
Rioter Comments
: Greatly Disappointed with this lore update
I mean, we have been said from the beginning that we may get some lighter lore patches or skip these completly sometimes. While I'm dissapointed that we have to wait for 2 weeks again, I do understand it. Sadly I hoped that Zed skin maybe would give another short story like we got one for Kayn (The Lure) but got dissapointed. Whatever, still better than you have no idea when the next lore drop will happen.
: I assume so. That team is spinning up.
Well, we can't wait to see that are the Novellas will bring. Hopefully some spicy (world building) content.
: I can't speak to the Lux comic. I donno where they are with it. I've only seen snippets. But you can probably apply the same math that was used for Ashe (plus 1 issue) to figure out it's release date. (I mean Marvel's schedules are pretty locked.) Ashe is still due for release on the day we mentioned previously. (mid may I believe) Sadly, I don't know what's in the book, and I haven't seen it. The exact insides are decided by our editors without the authors feedback (I guess?) Zed is spinning up production soon... and I'm not allowed to say much about him. I can say he has 6 scripts done, and first script is locked (I.e. ready for the artist). This is probably because we are in a place where the team doesn't have much to report... yet. (Heck. I don't even know the answers)
Hello Odin, first of all thank you for your answer! I know that the Lux comic is not your work and this post is also not really a complain to you or John O'Bryan. You are just the writers, as you already mentioned you are in the dark yourselves. Okay, using math sound like a good approach to me - the physical release should be two months after the comic is finished (assuming it works like Ashe: Warmother), so with the phyiscal release in November it means it is finished in September and should start in May (since it is five issues). Which would mean we would get no update in April, however this would contradict that Greg Street/Ghostcrawler said in the [Universe /Dev Dairy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqRxNzp9yCI). > We want to release at least one Marvel comic every month and you hopefully already seen this with the first two issues of Ashe: Warmother. Not gonna lie, while I do have high hopes for your Zed Comic (not super into the Lux comic since Lux is already is oversaturated with lore content and connection), I'm quite concerned for the upcoming release. You already told us that the future of the upcoming comic release depends how well the (physical) edition sells and with the lack of communication it is difficult to win over non(-hardcore) lore fans. For example, why should someone who already got all digital bonus edition go for the physical edition instead? And I see it from a rational point of view, I will get the digital and phyiscal copies no matter what but I'm a huge lore nerd which also can spent 6 Euro per month for a comic issue and 16 Euro for the physical release every few months. The comics (and novellas), as far I'm aware, are your attempt to reach a bigger audience with it, but it is difficult to win people over with the lack of communication for it. Right now, it feels like the marketing is sabotaging itself - we will only get more comics depends if these sell well enough but with the lack of proper communication a huge part of possible buyers can't be reached. I mean, in the end my complains can be boiled down to question about its logistics. When will the first digital issue of the Lux comic come out? Where can I preorder it (Lux) and how much will it cost? What does the physical edition of Ashe: Warmother includes, especially as someone who got all digital issues via Marvel? As I said, you don't have to win us hardcore fans which can organize themselves (and I speak as someone who moderates 3 League related discords includes the Lore of League and has access to a red tracker to hunt down important information). The lore already has a small, dedicated fanbase but even the lore fans will have little influence since we only can do so much to show our support to the narrative team.
: Lux comic was revealed on Amazon online store. The description says its going to be released on November 19th, 2019. Free Digital release of the comic on the Universe site will probably be released in early 2020.
> Lux comic was revealed on Amazon online store. The description says its going to be released on November 19th, 2019. Free Digital release of the comic on the Universe site will probably be released in early 2020. The **physical ** edition of all upcoming issues has been reveal. The Lux and Zed comic both will work as the Universe and Digital Release - they will be free to read and you can buy a digital issue for bonus content. The physical copy is simply a hardcover with possible bonus content as well.
  Rioter Comments
: Allow Chromas to be giftable
There is litereally no reason for Riot NOT to have all buyable option as gift as well. Emotes? Fucking great, let me get my edgylord friend the Dab Pingu he wished for. Chromas? Amazing ideas? Event Pass? You know your fellow loves the Prestige skin but has no free money to buy it right now. I could go on and on. But somehow Riot does not really care about the gifting option, sadly.
zounet (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lady Faceless,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=lfjyAswt,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-21T08:21:17.287+0000) > > Oathfather is a possible upcoming about Udyr. > With "possible" it means it hasn't been accept yet, but if the Ashe sales are good, we could get this as follow up. I really want it to be done do you know if it will be a comic?
Yeah, it will be a comic, I just tend to think so much father than I type, sorry for the confusion. Me too and since I also enjoyed the Ashe: Warmother comic a lot, I gonna get the physical edition to suppor the Narrative team. Lets hope the sales are good enough to contiue it.
zounet (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=lfjyAswt,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-03-21T07:29:44.959+0000) > > Oh in freljord the tribes warmother(boss) has multiple husbands, they will become oathfathers to the child they have with the warmother. It's a nice word for Dad. But honestly read the comics! They're on universe! Catch up https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_PL/comic/ "Yes, hopefully in Oathfather." ok thx, but I don't understand this answer(from odin)
> "Yes, hopefully in Oathfather." > ok thx, but I don't understand this answer(from odin) Oathfather is a possible upcoming comic about Udyr. With "possible" it means it hasn't been accept yet, but if the Ashe sales are good, we could get this as follow up.
: 1) This will be explore much, much later. (hopefully) When we are looking at Lissandra. Sorry no spoilers here! 2) There are female frost priests. We just haven't been in a place populated or important enough for one to be there. 3) An oath is an oath. Its about the culture you are raised in and your own convictions. Sejuani was willing to break the oath her mother was forced into because she didn't think it should count. This isn't a magical oath. This is your word, honor, and reputation. (now making an oath to a magical creature... that's a different beasty). 4) no spoilers. 5) Really, really hard. But depends on what you are hitting it with. True fire? Not to bad. True ice? yeah okay. Normal earth steel? Yipes. It might shatter the steel instead or both the steel and the ice-- but it would definitely freeze and shatter the weak hearthbound, normal-human hand that you were holding the steel sword with.) Demacian steel? wow good question... donno.
First of all, thank you for the answers. I really appreciate that. > 1) This will be explore much, much later. (hopefully) When we are looking at Lissandra. Sorry no spoilers here! This kinda sound as if Warmother always have been planned as three comics focusing on the journey of the Freljord leader. That sound amazing. And I'm sure The Iceborn would love to get his Lissandra content. > 2) There are female frost priests. We just haven't been in a place populated or important enough for one to be there. Wait, that sounds like female frost priests have higher esteem than male ones. I guess the stronger Iceborn genes give them also better healing magic? > 5) Really, really hard. But depends on what you are hitting it with. True fire? Not to bad. True ice? yeah okay. Normal earth steel? Yipes. It might shatter the steel instead or both the steel and the ice-- but it would definitely freeze and shatter the weak hearthbound, normal-human hand that you were holding the steel sword with.) Demacian steel? wow good question... donno. Demacian Steel to op, pls nerf. But seriously, it still seem to be a difficult ask. Also, so other True Elements are actually a thing now? I remember Scathelocke mention that this topic was discussed intern but is still influx. Which could make an interesting discussion to see that is an element in Runeterra, how are this other True Elements are known in their culture (I doubt they will be called True xxx) and how these work. True Fire is easy to imagine - just a flame which never will go out and burn hotter than everything else. But for example, what in the hell would be the pure elemental form of water. Just water which can't evaporate and freeze? Could you drink it for example (since well, water is for drinking). How in the hell could you make something useful for society. Weapon? Maybe a nice fountain? Question over Question.
: Ashe: Warmother. Issue 4 Available now! (in special addition or free!)
Thank you so much for that amazing comic and the great discussion you had with the lore community about it. Never tired of answering our worldbuilding questions. Anyway, it was a really good ride which both expanded Ashe and Sejuani as lore character. And I would like mention that Sejuani totally stole Ashe's spotlight and I loved her for it every single panel. Can't wait to read your Zed comic and more important to ask TONS of (shadow) magic related question. But this seem so far away for now...
: Ultimately at this point, it's fate will be decided by sales of the physical release. (In may I think?) It's done "okay" on universe. Obviously, the hope is people were waiting to binge when it was finished.
Annoy all my friends to buy the physical version, understand that ;) Okay joke aside, I can imagine that physical edition will sell better than the digital one. Most people prefer to read a book and have the content at one place instead buying every single issue.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Ashe: Warmother Comic Nr. 4 (final) Feedback and Character Discussion; SPOILERS
So, we finally got the last issue of the Warmother comic and it has been a worthy ending for the first comic. First, I’m actually impressed how Sejuani was able to steal the spotlight the moment she came into the frame. I freaking love her whole presence in the comic. She is beautiful, she is badass, and she is a person with real emotions. The comic not only expended on Ashe but gave us such a better understanding about Sejuani. The fight between Ashe and Sejuani broke my poor heart. Overall, the moment when Sejuani declared Ashe as her battle sister was the moment it all turned to the worst for both of them. Sejuani was ready to do everything for Ashe and the first reaction Ashe gives her is hesitation. It broke my heart to see this kind of hesitation. I understand why Ashe could not watch to see innocent people get slaughtered. It was the right call to save them but it cost them their friendship. Not gonna lie, I felt a little bit cheated to see Sejuani coming back to her village, knowing this will be the point she will take the place as Warmother and not to see that will happen. This turning point for Sejuani deserves its own spotlight. Comic or Short Story? I don’t care but I want it. So but I have a few question with this final issue. 1. I want to know how this telepathic link between the Frost priests works. It such a small sentence but I want to know more. Can everyone learn it? Does it work like the dream walking Lissandra uses? Which downsides have it? Can someone hide his intention? Or does make it a person like glass, unable to hide and shows everything about you? 2. Are Frost priest are position only for male Iceborns? Since we saw a handful in the comic and these have been only male so far. 3. How difficult is it to break an Oath? Ashe and Sejuani are Battlesisters and we know that oaths are not taken lightly in Freljord. What would happen if Sejuani would kill Ashe? Is it completely meaningless now or does an oath has some kind of hidden magic, maybe? 4. I guess Urkath will be one of Sejuani’s bloodsworn? In “Silence for the Damned” it was mention that Sejuani has bloodsworns and he clearly tries to woo her. Which favor does he own to Sejuani? 5. How difficult is it to break True Ice? We can see that the broken helmet which Sejuani wears ingame is still unbroken in the comic. We know the helmet somehow got broken during the time her mother died. So could that happen to possible every True Ice Weapon? Or does it have some deeper meaning which could be used to fuel Sejuani’s claim as true ruler of the Freljord? Anyway, thank you Odin for delivering writing such an amazing comic and it was a blast to read. I can’t wait to see your work on Zed, especially since I expect a lot of information about Shadow Magic. Maybe I will be the person who does that big Feedback Discussion this time.
: 2018 Lore Tournament - Winner's Artwork
Glad I could support this piece of work, even if it took some time to get finished. Anyway, Narrative Team thanky you so much for making 2018 an amazing year and I don't doubt that 2019 will be even better. And of course a big thank you to Graham McNeill for creating these amazing short stories and I can't wait to read more of your (and the others) work. I hope you enjoy our humble gift.
  Rioter Comments
: Malzahar is best Void
Gonna agree with you, Malzahar is the best Void Champ. The actually thing I love most about him how he also got broken by the true nature of humanity. We are trapped in an endless circle of pain and misery and there is no way to break free from it. So he embraced oblivion instead. I only wish he would get a Color Story...
: I agree, it's entirely possible Serylda used sign language and the story just quotes it as "_this is what she had to say_". Also there is a time skip in that story in which Avarossa could have lost her hearing and Serylda had her voice taken, it doesn't even mention Lissandra being blind. Lissandra's bio gives no frame of reference for when the sisters lost their senses relative to each other.
I mean, these kind of details doesn't even matter that much in the end. I'm absolutly fine the stories having some contradicted information since these ARE tales.
: When are the tales of Orrn going to be updated
The Tales of Ornn are not outdated, these are just tales which shouldn't be taken too literally. For example, Serylda speaks which already has lost her voice at this point. However, like almost every tale, there is some truth in it.
Rioter Comments
Jaethal (EUW)
: So what if some skins dont seel wells as others ? You know that for msot skins they sell millions right ? So what if a Zyra skins sells ~500,000$ ? Its still money. But I think you dont udnerstand that Riot is making a six digit number of money for every skin release. And that in their eyes is rpobably a fail. And im not like you. I cant wait 1 year to get a skin for a champion as you said. And having multiple skins per patch will not oversaturate the market. You are forgetting that league of legends has a sht ton of onetricks, as in player who play 1 champion only. And some of those players dont get skins becasue their champion gets no love or not enough attention. Me, I buy every skins that releases, cuz i like every single champion in the game. So im totaly fine with them making 10 up to 20 skins per patch.
> So what if some skins dont seel wells as others ? You know that for msot skins they sell millions right ? Do you know how economics work? You try to increase your revenue by minimazing your work/investment. I took Zyra as example cause I heard from used to be pretty reliable source that her last skin sold bad. So, you spent a fix amount of work on a Zyra skin, actually even more than normal epic skin since her plant models. So, let assume the skin gives you a revenvue of 500,000 Dollar. Why not make a Lux skin instead which gives you 10 time the revenvue with less work? From an economic point of the view, the choice is simple. But of course Riot knows every champion has mains and try to create skins for all of them. But some our just too much work and/or not popular enough to get a lot of content. > And im not like you. I cant wait 1 year to get a skin for a champion as you said. And having multiple skins per patch will not oversaturate the market. You are forgetting that league of legends has a sht ton of onetricks, as in player who play 1 champion only. And some of those players dont get skins becasue their champion gets no love or not enough attention. OTPs are literally the worst category to cater skins to. Expect these people main crazy popular champions, the amount of Aurelion Sol Mains, Ivern Main and Skarner Mains matter little. I don't say it to hurt anyone, I say it from an economic point of view. If every champion would get skins to regularly, the people will have no reason to buy it. If skin A is coming out tomorrow and I know the said champion get skin B in 6 months, it gives me less reasons to buy it. Riot already has to increase the quality nonstop to give people a reason to buy the newest skin. Why should I buy Lunar Revel Lux if Elementalist exist? Why go for Pgjyama Guardian if I can play Star Guardian? Especially if the said champion actually have good option. I still play with Justicar Syndra which I got gifted 5 years ago since I consider it her best skin. This won't change until I get a skin which I actually enjoy more than Justicar. Having more skins would be in the end no real solution. Also, making more skins doesn't mean the revenvue would increase proportional to it. It means you have to hire more people, pay more for these people, get better communicate and even more stuff. There is a point when increasing a team only brings more problem with it. It is by far better to have a small team which everyone is communicating with each other than having a big one with worse communication. > Me, I buy every skins that releases, cuz i like every single champion in the game. You know you simple can reroll these skins? You don't buy them at this point. You simple maintain your account. Which is not even that difficult if you already hit that point.
Jaethal (EUW)
: More skins per patch pls
Well, there is already one problem with your thoughts of train: You assume every skin sell equally well, no matter which champion. But it doesn't. For every skin you make you have to put some work into it and hope it is bought enough. Champions like Zyra for example have a lot of work to be done and her skins simple don't SELL well enough. So, you are assuming if you hire more people to produce skin, the sales would increase equally, which doesn't happen. Not consider the bigger a team is, the more difficult it is to coordinate. Not that it ends that two skins from the same skin line look complete different and share no common ground. I disagree with having to wait a year for another skin. I'm fine with it since in the most cases you have a handful skin you enjoy. I own all Syndra skins and still mostly play with Justicar and SKT. Sometimes it happens that the base skin IS the best option (looking at Swain and Neeko for example), but it is not a problem. 10-20 skins are lot. I agree, what the should keep getting around 4/5 skins per patch, not less (last year we had a few patch with one skin each) but +10 skins per patch would simple oversaturate the market and the skin quality would suffer a lot. That Riot actually should do is focus more non-skin releases. More Emotes, Announcer Pack.
Rioter Comments
: The Awaken song
No idea about spotify since I dont use it, but Riot always release their songs via their [soundcloud page ](https://soundcloud.com/leagueoflegends)a few days later.
: Skin Universe Lore in 2019: Alt Fantasy, Multiverse Theory, and You
Hey, so first of all thanks for all work you did in 2018! Especially Odyssey Kayn and Eclipse Leona have amazing VO and I love these skins so much. (Seriously, since I bought the Leona one, I almost played Leona only. I love the VO so much.) Okay, here is my take: 1. More Skin Bio. Like, every skin should have a small bio which you can read in the Skin Collection, such kind of things bug me always if the work is only half done. 2. The VO's are great, keep doing your work. Seriously, these have been amazing so far. 3. Ask the Universe Team to create a better way to find all the skin stuff. Things like High Noon, PROJECT and Blood Moon are difficult to find if you don't know where exactly to look. It is fine for Veterans like me, but is really bad for people who are new on the website. 4. Maybe try to use some smaller text forms for skin releases? Haikus are perfect for the Immortal Journey for example. I have a soft spot for Drabbles as someone who used to write these like all the time, so I could imagine that this could be at least worth a try. (Btw, I mean the actual definition from Drabble - a text which is exactly 100 words long without the title. In the english writing scene it seems to be everything that is less than a short story). 5. Crossovers. Things like that "The Omen of the Dark" being a fables in "Eclipse" is amazing. "Odyssey" and "Pulsefire" have huge crossover ability and it would be a shame not to use it. Bonus Points: 1. Already said, but Coven deserve a short story. SG is already popular enough, the short story was not needed. I know, it has been said enough and it was mentioned that they will get skin lore if these return, but I really think the Universe amazing and deserves all the love and attention it can get. 2. If a legendary Syndra skin is in work, please make sure she feels powerful, like Leona does. I almost quite the game cause of her absolut awful Lore Update and I really hope her only shot for a legendary wont be wasted. Especially since the rumors about Anti-Star Guardian exist and it felt like a dodge a bullet that Syndra hasn't got the legendary one. Give me Cosmic or Coven Syndra, which has so much potential visual and lore wise. Something powerful. Not cute, not nice, but actually powerful and sovereign. And that she has more personality than her given lore counterpart, which sadly has none anymore.
: How da hell are you all even reading the second issue, it hasnt come up on the Universe page as of yet (4 PM CET)
People who bought the special edition via Mavel Unliminted can read it a few hours before the Universe release.
: 2018 Lore Tournament: The End
>The entire Lore Discord, for simply being great people ~~(not syndra mains though),~~ You are now banned from the Discord Server and I want my donation back. Okay, joke aside I really loved how you keep the tournament going and I feel honored to be able to support the winner's comission. To all authors: Keep your good work up and can't wait to see that 2019 will bring!
: Not a fan of the artwork. Also not a fan of reading a comic book you already know the events of. You people are going insane trying to find ways to increase popularity of this train wreck of a game, INSTEAD OF JUST FIXING THE FUCKING THING!
Gameplay =/= Lore That is not that difficult to get. Also, if you have critism, you usually also explain HOW to improve it. Not just saying "I don't like it". That kind of statment is helping noone.
: Ashe: Warmother. Issue #1. Avail nows!
It was a really enjoyable read and can't wait to read more about! Speaking about questions, I don't have any yet (maybe your take on [this question](https://twitter.com/demacianpuppet/status/1075356237515100160) I asked earlier today) but most writers do have Twitter, did you ever thought about creating a Twitter Account as well? Your answer are always so detailed and it is difficult to get your attention on the Boards.
Saniel (EUNE)
: LoL comics on physical form
It is already comfirmed that you can buy a physical copy of all 4 Issues in May 2019.
Loborcs (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Caithresh,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Rsn6brH6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-19T11:38:48.791+0000) > > First issue was indeed very nice. This is what I retain: > > * Maalcrom is a Frost Priest. He was seemingly sent by Lissandra. That implies that, in the eyes of the Freljord's tribes, Lissandra is a good guy. Now the question is: Does Maalcrom know her real identity? If yes, did he betray her (he seems to care a lot about Ashe and her tribe)? Or is he just playing a part, deceiving everyone...? > > * True Ice is powerful. Like, super powerful. We were wondering on the Lore of League server if it can One-Shot any non-Iceborn just by touching skin. Wielding it is lethal to non-Iceborn (and still dangerous for some Iceborn it seems) because of the cold, does that mean it is lethal to strike someone with it (if that person is a human)? > > * I really liked the characters. In the end, I even felt sad for Ashe's mother. > > > Of course there a lot of other things but that's mostly it. Good job to Odin, as the characters were very well written, and the story in general is appealing. Art is amazing too. > Now, as for my hopes and theories in next issues... > > * How is Ashe gonna find the bow? My guess is that she'll climb the mountain, but what will she find? I don't think there is a Throne of Avarosa. I think it's something she'll make up in order to appease her tribe, or she'll tell them that the Throne of Avarosa isn't what it seems, I don't know. > > * I hope we'll explore _why_ she is considered Avarosa's reincarnation. I mean really, why? Is there even a reason? It could be anyone, so why _her_? > > * I think Tryndamere will appear at some point (maybe last issue). I'd like Sejuani and Liss to make an appearance, but I don't think it'll happen. Odin said he didn't want to rush Lissandra's appearance (and he's right, the real Queen of the Freljord needs a proper introduction). > > Aaaaand that's it. I really liked it. I rated it 5/5. However, I was disappointed with the bonus content. It was nice of course, but I would've liked something else... Tho I guess it's because I'm not that much into Ashe/Freljord lore. Had it been about Syndra I would've enjoyed every piece of art (I hope someday, she'll appear in a comic...), hence why I still rated it 5/5. Overall, good job Riot. That cliffhanger at the end was really nice, makes us wanna read the next issue (which is totally the point of a cliffhanger, Caith, you don't have to state this fact.) Which Lore of League server? Waiting for the Universe's version to comment about the rest.
A little Lore Server which likes to discuss the lore. Not affect with the Boards, but we do have some familiar faces there. [Link](http://discord.gg/wxRnKet)
: If you could travel into Runeterra right now with your current memories, what would you do?
I'm almost sure I saw this discussion somewhere today... no idea where... /s Mh, my heart would tell me to got to Ionia or Demacia. Or Noxus for the opportunity. However, Ionia is still divided from the War and I have no idea what should I do? Try to live a normal life there and trying to learn magic? Join Zed's Order (would be fun with no fighting experience I guess...) not consider I'm not an extremist and probably don't wanna forsaken my body or soul for corrupting shadow magic. I, however, would love to braid Kayn's hair. Searching for Syndra and teach how to have deal properly with her suppressed emotion (and make her less a ticking time bomb)? But somehow I think I would be to much for her, poor girl needs some alone time for now. Maybe I could wait until we get more information and go and join the Black Rose. Having important information about the word, which I could sell LeBlanc in exchange for more magic knowledge/teaching how to use magic proper. Maybe also giving her a hint that she should keep an eye on Vladimir. I guess Piltover would be the safest place, but too little magic for my taste. You only have one live, time to make the best out of it, I guess?
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RczcRYcq,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2018-12-12T14:24:29.140+0000) > > Wait... Blood moon gets one but Eclipse doesn't T_T dont do us like this Don’t worry, I gotchu. Next time Eclipse rolls back around (and it looks very likely that it will in some form) odds are extremely good it’ll get some story work.
I'm so glad to hear that. I love the skin line so much and right now the only thing I'm doing is playing Jungle Leona in Nexus Blitz and admire the amazing Solar Eclipse skin. The skin team did an amazing job and you did an amazing job with her VO. And I'm looking forward for the next bunch of skins (and your next VO/Story work).
: environment? are you asking if it's stern of funny? It's pretty rough. It's a small elite order. (obviously small is subjective-- but he's not fielding an army) Loose ranks-- monastic rather than military. They spend more time on missions than in the walls. It's not unfriendly-- these are hardcore warriors and veterans-- but like real-world soldiers they have a lot of down-time to fill. Yes, there are girls and women. You join only by invitation and after proving yourself. Many are veterans of the war with Noxus-- the largest portion were from the Navori brotherhood--esp the units Zed commanded in that organization. (It's effectively an elite splinter group from the Navori) Many were young teens during the war-- who had taken up arms after their homes and families had been killed-- some are former criminals, others were students of other masters before joining Zed more recently. All are hardline, anti-noxus, and believe Ionia must be unified-- and that all other nations must be made to fear Ionia. Zed is the master-- Kayn is his second in command. Lower level students mostly learn from mid tier students, mid tier learn from high tier, high tier from Kayn and Zed personally. Almost all of them had serious martial art skills before joining-- of various styles and weapons. They are unified by acquiring shadow magic and learning to use it. --BUT.... sorry the nature of shadow magic and how you gain access to it will be revealed later.
First of all, thanks for the information, I'm also a sucker for Order of the Shadow lore, but I got some questions as well. > Zed is the master-- Kayn is his second in command. Lower level students mostly learn from mid tier students, mid tier learn from high tier, high tier from Kayn and Zed personally. Well, Kayn being actually second in command is something that kind caughts me off-guard. I mean, Kayn seems rather... young. In the best case he is in my age (21 years old), but I heard from a pretty reliable source that he is only suppose to be 17, which well, is kinda questionable for a second in command? > Almost all of them had serious martial art skills before joining-- of various styles and weapons. They are unified by acquiring shadow magic and learning to use it. I mean, Kayn's ability ingame (before becoming SA) seems rather limited. He seems to be able to trespass wands and bodies, but no shadow clones or similar. Does it mean, what the most people from Zed's Order are not even able to do such kind of things? Well...Zed is truly the Master of Shadows. > --BUT.... sorry the nature of shadow magic and how you gain access to it will be revealed later. Why does that sound a lot like a Zed comic? God, please be it. I'm more than hyped now.
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: Better hide because horny downvote squad is coming for you xD I mean, I wouldn't care all that much if only a few champions were sexualized, but the way it is right now, boob plates, heels, perfect and scarless faces and what not glare at you from every corner. But to be fair, LoL has kept it civil. Check out Mu and TERA and you'll see how awfully bad it can be.
I don't really care for the downvotes since they come from people which are by far too scare to speak with a female being in real life. Otherwise, they wouldn't act like this. Yeah, League improved a lot, that's for sure. And sexualization is fine as long it doesn't hurt the core theme. Kai'sa visual design failed 'cause of it, since nothing indicates that she is a survalist. Not with perfect hair and make up. I mean, as much as I love Solar Eclipse Leona, the boob plate (which could kill her) nor the high heels were needed. In the end, these are minor things but does bother me.
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: Most have one problem in common - nobody would be dumb enough to walk into a fight with their vitals exposed (with the obvs exceptions like MF and Ahri). That and, where applicable, heels. Who, in their right mind, would try to walk on heels in battle? It just screws your stamina and makes running near impossible, 'cause your legs are gonna hurt like motherf----rs and is just insanely uncomfortable in general. EDIT: Yeeeah. I just made a general argument without going into SJW mode and still got downvoted. Very funny.
Not gonna lie - what did you expect from the people of this boards? Especially since you even argue that sexualization actually is bad? HOW DARE YOU. This people don't care how toxic that kind oversaturation is. They don't care that female like to have champions which look like them. They don't care that around 20% of all girls during their puberty develop some eating disorder cause of the toxic beauty standart (at least this is the case in my country, Germany). This people are proud that they are so horny that they have to fap to everything. It is tragic, really. Since they refuse to accept that these kind of consume is incredible problematic and they are part of the problem.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sihari,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=N7j40lBd,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-29T13:57:34.514+0000) > > I just dont understand why we have to pay for the border at all... They where meant as a nice goodie for those who got the skin early and dont wait for the sale. > And now they hide some cute Icons behind a bundle with artificial high prices, because "Oh look, you get a border with that!" (ಠ_ಠ) this all this. I remember buying project skins and such and getting a border just because I bought them same day of release. I was really dissapointed to find out No border when I purchased both solar and lunar leona. Then come to find out only way to get it was to buy the bundle. It really turned me off especially being I dont care about Icons to much. Hell I would even play their weekly mission crap like with yasuo and riven borders for nightbring and dawnbringer or god king garen and darius.
I'm absolut fine with doing mission and craft the icons for the border. I like it, since it feels like you earned it. Paying 550 RP for a border and icon is simple greedy. Like, there is literally no reason why the border price, which never made any sense, had to increase.
: Am I the only one who feels the new leona pack icons are lame?
Things are subjective, the icons per se are fine, personally I love how almost chubby Leona looks on the icons. However, I dislike how you have to play 1100 RP for both icons since Riot decided since High Noon that the border prices has to increase for 175 RP zu 300 RP for no reason...
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: So who you guys think will star in the other comics? Miss Fortune? Yasuo? Taliyah? Lux/Garen?
Order of the Shadow Stuff and/or Shen and Zed chasing Jhin and probably more around Shurima would be my two guess for now.
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