patmax17 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3zQ7hXi0,comment-id=00040007000000000000000100000000000000020000,timestamp=2017-11-17T07:50:43.899+0000) > > I should probably write a tech blog on this. Please do! :D http://i.picpar.com/TGvc.gif I'm a programmer and have always embraced Riot's zero-tolerance policy against trolling but especially bullying (I have a few very sensitive friends and they were pushed away of league because the fear of being matched with or against flamers), I'd love to read a clear blog post that lists the system in place and what they do (I'm aware you won't be able to go into detail to avoid the systems being reverse-enginereed and abused, but a list with a short overview of how the systems work would be great :D) The caveat as usual is that people against the IFS will probably find a way to use the article against you and/or the system, but I guess that's everyday business? :/ Keep up the work ^^ Oh, while I'm at it: what programming language are the systems written in?
: After playing so much Overwatch...
Um..isn't Blizzard's content usually of high quality? Also, i'm pretty sure it is infinitely harder to update OW without adding entire heroes or permanent maps into it. Something Riot never (maps) does or does on a long cooldown aswell (champions). You're comparing completely different games and i'm pretty sure it's easier to update League when you have state of the art equipment for it. Idk how Blizzard handles their stuff or how much they make for their tools.
Sciela (NA)
: Whether you want to admit it or not, they are bugs. They are considered bugs on literally any other champ, and are fixed. It's just greedy ass Riot making a double standard for another money maker.
I just literally explained to you why they are not bugs and over [](https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-feedback/IYzG01mq-710-riven-changes)here is the proof that the developers themselves have accepted it as a mechanical part of her kit, tuning this "bug" into a feature of hers. Also wtf are you talking about that other champs can't have animation canceling? There's even a tooltip saying "Champions with empowered basic attacks such as Jax's W can use them to animation cancel." Yea i'm sure hard af champions bring in more money. I wonder why Azir is beneath the table, looking for crumbs of bread then in the current meta. Jhin has no animation cancels in his kit whatsoever and he was voted the most popular champion in League on the Boards and he's about to get a 4th skin already. But since he has no anim. cancels i guess he is not popular - You.
Sciela (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LightTrack,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=7MBMivzN,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-16T22:29:26.363+0000) > > They used to be, until Riot decided they're features. Okay, so if they're a "feature," why are they immediately fixed on any other champ that pops up with them? Hmm...
Because they are intended to stay. Bugs are not. It's what i meant when i said that Riot embraced the idea of animation cancelling on Riven. They've openly admitted to encouraging animation cancelling on Riven and even made the buffering of them easier in a patch a while ago.
Sciela (NA)
: You typically max E second, meaning for mid-game (when top starts to come down to mid and whatnot) you have your absurd shield. And uh, have you *seen* the base damages on her abilities? Animation cancels or no, she still one combos squishies. Thing is though, they are bugs. Any other champ has them fixed immediately (some champs even get disabled for having cancels). In Riven's case, it's just a double standard since she is a frequent FOTM champ (AKA, makes money) thanks to her broken kit and edgy VO / story.
It's not absurd at all. That shield is the equivalent of Yasuo's passive shield and they're both breakable. Especially if you're ranged. Mispositioning in a way that allows her to stun you and hop away is your own mistake, not hers. She one-combos squishies because that's exactly what you're supposted to do with your ult as Riven lol. Not to mention timing is very important so none of your dashes are wasted. It's pretty important if you don't want your opponent to pre-emptively dodge one or two of your abilities. > Thing is though, they are bugs They used to be, until Riot decided they're features.
Sciela (NA)
: Well actually I have played her quite a bit. And no, it's not hard to do a single fucking thing she does. People just pretend it is to protect their freelo.
Um Riven's E scales with her AD but without AD or without maxing it (giving up your damage) you're not tanking anything. It's duration is very short aswell and can easily be played around. She also has no damage without the animation cancels that you call bugs even though Riot made them slightly easier to perform, meaning they've embraced them as mechanical requirements you need to learn to play her. In other words: These "bugs" are actually features now.
: If you send it to the recycling center you get some chromas and icons!!!
So...nothing? Personally, nothing beats the Lamb icon for me and i have literally every chroma i could use. So..nothing. Great.
: Star Guardian Quinn artwork by Rolochan
Quite pretty but that cleavage is a bit too obvious imo. The Heartseeker skin is on a similar theme though.
: Yeah, I think that the new system feeling different or worse is good feedback which we are watching carefully. But I'm also seeing this perception that the new system is giving you less currency - and that's not true. It's difficult to have a conversation about how the system feels when not everyone has the right facts.
It's obvious why it feels bad - because you're not really feeling a direct income change when you finish a game. In other words - I'd rather get paid for playing right now rather than assume the Xp buildup will give me a good drop.
Destaice (NA)
: "EA's greedy business model screwed us over! I'm shocked this happened!"
I'm not. It's happened countless times before. They can fucking disband for all i care.
: My Reaction when People are shocked that EA is still awful
Those fuckers killed Visceral Games (The ones who made Dead Space) and are trying to make us subscribe with our money to play their games in the future. Corporate evil is pure in their hearts. They share no passion for games. At least the ones pulling the strings don't.
: .: DO NOT BUY/SPEND RP :.
Except that it caters to casual player and ones who are not level 30 yet, like you. Your argument is invalid as you gain more right now than you would as a level 30 player. Those who play using first win of the day get level up in 4 games or so so they're the ones profiting here thought.
Kerkoc (EUW)
: Fair settings for deaf people.
A ripple through the ground from underneath the champions could work. Note:I mean like a small ripple under the opposing team's champions' grounds like a tiny aura wave.
: They likely won't. Their worth might not have changed based on their perception. Lootboxes can now drop chest + key, additionally there is bad luck protection. Yeah it's not much from my point of view either, but they literally drastically nerfed OE from disenchanting because you get extra box every blue moon at milestones that may not even drop OE based content. So If they actually thought the boxes from leveling are good enough reason to drop the worth of shards, they will certainly defend themself that these minor changes to lootboxes maintain their prize. Also lootboxes were never really worth buying with RP even before. Maybe in very special cases when you lacked minor amount of OE to redeem content you got from free chests, but other than that it's overpriced since you don't instantly get the content inside but need several chests to grind OE AND you can end up getting content you could've grinded for free. Riot's purchasable lootboxes were always scam. It's just that some people probably really love this company when they go crazy and scream "hazard" with every other company applying unfair lootboxes, but they don't mind the fact they can actually get content worth less than what they paid If it comes from someone they like. It's been whale-bait up to this point so why should they now change it? People will still buy it, just like people pay for the over-glorified Chromas or the pathetic Emotes.
But isn't bad luck protection only for Level Up boxes? They're not the same as Hextech Chests y'know?
AonDor (NA)
: Actually, this is not true. A Remake only happens if someone starts the game AFK. When the item appears, the game registers as them gaining an item - as in, they take an action. Therefore, to the computer, they are no longer AFK, so the Remake function is not necessary.
Technically it doesn't have to start with an AFK. They just have to be afk long enough to be marked afk before the remake time passes. So they can just disconnect prior to it.
Carnley (NA)
: Her thing has never been about doing massive damage, it's about keeping multiple people cc'd for long periods of time while doing a decent amount of secondary damage. She does this incredibly well.
Hm..i guess i never really thought of it that way, Thanks!
Carnley (NA)
: I'm pretty sure they gave lissandra the passive she currently she has because they didn't want to pack any more power into the kit. Compare her to many of the other season 3 mages and it would be obvious that even giving her a strong passive would have pushed her over the top. But yeah it's a little outdated now.
I don't know..her W never seemed to do any sort of damage at all without being fed. Then again, it's not like you can get hugely rewarded for such an easy to land ability but...well being that close is sometimes a risk and sometimes it's not. Personally, i feel some of her stuff should get reworked. I like her Q above all though.
: I try my best:-( That's the way it used to work. We expanded the notifications slightly. That's why there are two different wordings in the feedback reports. One alluding to the fact that a player you JUST reported was penalized, and another alluding to the fact that a player you previously reported was penalized. There is a time limit of sorts on this, to ensure the feedback loop is within recent memory.
Time limit? So you can't get punished from a report issued a week ago or so?
Rioter Comments
: Kan't wait till someone gets 2Kayn.
Bârd (NA)
: Yorick has a passive. It's mediocre, but very much there.
I meant about being unloved not the passive.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 10
Yeah, one thing - Kayn has very slightly little attack speed and a bug i discovered. His attack speed is 0.2 off or so and the bug he has makes him waste his Q when using it on the border of a wall while inside it. It simply goes on cd.
: Shit statements like that, are just excuses for people to be assholes in the first place. The only reason "the internet" is like that in the first place, is because of people like you who go "OH WELL" or actively support it because you know you ARE toxic and you want an excuse to be the jerk you've always been. You have NO idea of the crap I've seen. I've been doxxed, gotten death threats, been spammed with gore porn, had accounts made specifically to target and harass me, 8chan opened a thread to specifically target my sister. I've seen thousands of harassing tweets, messages, that range from simple insults to threats to murder someone's entire family. That's all just the tip of the iceberg. And you know why that's all happened to me and why that's all happened to others? Because we have the audacity, to want people to owe up to the shit they say and because we have the audacity to not accept "well it's the internet" as an excuse to not speak up or say something. I still remember, fresh in my mind. Having to file a police report because we stumbled across something not only disgusting (I felt like throwing up) but 100% illegal. And yet here I am. Still advocating for the things I believe in. Still calling out things I believe to be bad. And I will continue to do so, despite all the crap I see and get. If that makes me "sensitive"...oh well. I don't do this to receive praise, I do this because I think it's the right thing to do. So calling out stuff like this? Yes I will do that. Praising people who take action? Yes I will do that as well. Don't like it? There's a downvote button right next to my post.
> I still remember, fresh in my mind. Having to file a police report because we stumbled across something not only disgusting (I felt like throwing up) but 100% illegal. Care to tell me what was the illegal part about?
: Lost my tongue after opening champion capsule...
Well...one for Nunu, one for Willump!
: Lissandra's passive consumes Mana Band's free spell
So basically with this...she literally has no passive. Talk about unloved champions...she's like the new Yorick now.
: When you have 138 champions who need rebalanced simultaneously, it makes sense that you aren't going to get them exactly right. In fact, you really shouldn't try to. It's much better to give everyone small buffs to compensate for the general stats lost from runes, and then make more fine-tune changes as needed once you actually have data from players on live. On this scale, it is way easier to react to the champions' actual performance than to try to predict how they will perform, beforehand.
We know. We're not bashing Riot for not getting the stats adjustements right. We're highlighting the outliers. If they get the stats in place by the end of Pre-Season it won't be that much of a problem and Runes can get readjusted at the same time aswell.
: Leveling feels bad, losing feels worse then ever, and you never expect anything from the capsules
Not to mention Overwatch doesn't have such things like "Hero" drops. And even if it did, it'd count towards your credits anyway and you can buy freaking skins for them. Imagine if getting champ shards dropped orange essence? Blizzard can afford that.
: actually they replied to a very similar thread made on the announcement occasion. The summarize of the reply was "sorry but we would loose too much money". Worded way better then this of course but this was the meaning. The rioter also offered everyone who replied to him to help them find something we could consider acceptable and enjoy but didn't drain the company gain.
As far as i recall, there were suggestions but nothing's changed.
: > [{quoted}](name=Snowplosion,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NU2EQ2F9,comment-id=00010004,timestamp=2017-11-09T15:12:25.795+0000) > > Laughing Fish down voted. IMPOSSIBLE. Some people don’t appreciate fine humor.
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NU2EQ2F9,comment-id=000100040000,timestamp=2017-11-09T15:20:46.107+0000) > > Some people don’t appreciate fine humor. In that case, you don't understand fine humor.
: It is going to take forever to unlock 6300 champs now. Roughly every 150 games played.
*laughs in all champions owned* But yea, idk really. I guess they're either making you wait for the FoTD bonuses so you play less or they want to make you buy the champs instead. I mean they removed the champ shard reroll options.
Rioter Comments
Xonra (NA)
: Isn't beyond the point, and too bad for you? This is a forum, not a private chat.
Still - I wasn't talking to you, meaning i don't care about your opinion because you're defending someone who can't defend themselves. This is the equivalent of one of his buddies jumping in for his sake. Not to mention you missed the point completely. You started rambling about the Runes system in general when i was talking about how well the video was doing in presenting them.
LazyW0lf (NA)
: Is anyone else just not having fun?
Pretty funny how noone on the Boards saw this coming that the Runes Reforged is essentially doubling down on the damage increase. I mean you guys have the best connections on PBE, NA.
Xonra (NA)
: Mmmmmmmm sort of. The problem is, the "new playstyles" aren't that new, and the runes in general tend to favor the same groups that have been in the meta all season. People said this would shake up the meta but it is only going to cement the one we are in right now with literally one change I see. Adc got the most love (no difference). Tanks got a lot of love and will still be highly meta (no difference). Supports got love and the same supports that are currently in the meta (as in basically not tank supports) got some good tools to keep them stronger in lane specifically (no difference). Mages didn't get shafted but they got waaaay less love than probably anyone else period (so no difference). The only "new playstyles" are going to be old playstyles like "Bankplank", and ad mid laners are going to abuse mages flat out until there are changes.
That is beyond the point in general and i wasn't even talking to you.
: My thread makes it look like I dislike the videos because I do in fact dislike the videos.
Why? They highlight the runes themselves and how they synergyze with the champions. Right now the only thing i see "wrong" with it is that it implies a different playstyle while simply presenting an amplified one.
: Then don't lead every video with literally these exact words: "Runes reforged lets you customize your champion to **create whole new playstyles**" If you're gonna try to summarize a post, try to actually understand what it's saying.
I admit failing there but my point still stands. Your thread makes it look like you dislike the videos in general.
Murl0ugh (NA)
: The argument is they say "create new playstyles" then show us champs doing the same playstyle they've been doing since before the new runes. It isn't just about being a negative nancy.
Well while the examples aren't the best, the runes do create new playstyles.
: "Runes Reforged lets you create whole new playstyles" - Riot video
"A thread summarizing a summarization of a video that's supposted to summarize the advantages of the rune pages" See? I can summarize and give it a negative undertone aswell. The videos explain how the runes synergyze and **amplify** these champions' playstyles.
UNFORG1V3N (EUNE)
: Riot please allow me to delete the "prepared" runes that you've made so i can create my own.
Or..make them just be in a "Recommended" or "Default Pages" slot that you can put out of sight. Like with Item Sets.
: > Lmao, take your own logic and apply it to yourself. You've just depressing aren't you? I'v seen a few of your posts while browsing, all you seem to do is find some way to disagree, then flame people who disagree with you under the guise of "Logic." > Honestly, your the one being a downer here, re-read everything, I'v been trying to be kind, but you're so blunt and basic. Completely going off the rails here i see. You are now stalking my profile to try and make a point? First of all, everything i say is justified to me. Obviously. You can't use that againt me as it makes no sense to try and make me doubt myself with YOUR mindset. Second, i've no clue where you took the elitist crap from. Third, maybe stop trying to attack me as an individual and stay on the original argument? > that's the aura your giving. I don't really have to give a shit as to what kind of an aura i'm giving. Deal with it. I don't care whether you like talking to me or not. > So what if I made a joke, you had no reason to insult it? If I made two people laugh, that's great, what's wrong with that. A really shitty way to reply to me is why. You used it as a counter-argument and as a joke at the same time. The former in combination with the latter is why it infuriated me. You thought you were funny, doesn't matter. It's a scummy way of responding because it's hard to respond to it without you taking the easy way out "Oh i was just joking. You're negative." Don't think i can't see right through that. LF used this shit a million times on me. > , you constantly insulting Oh so i threw one direct remark at your "shitty argument" and you call that constantly insulting? How about you stop cowering behind that? > What you are doing is stating an opinion, and shaming everyone who disagrees with you in the name of "arguments." Stating in a way that seems intellectual doesn't make it so. This ties in with what i just said. > it normally filled with positive arguments... So..neutral arguments? What? And i'll turn it around on you: When did i say they're "Positive" arguments? I said sound and reasonable arguments at the least. And i didn't even say ALWAYS. There are shit ones too but that doesn't differentiate from any other game's forums. > This is a petty attempt to make yourself feel better then others by "winning" "arguments." Ironically your "witty" response that i got pissed at was this exact attempt. Otherwise you wouldn't care to read this.
> Ah Nitpicking now I see, looking for small flaws in word choice that would give you some leeway. Um countering your accusation with something you chose to ignore is not appropriate? > Also never stalked you, happened to see your posts. Sure you did. And you somehow remembered intrinsically all of their contents to make claims on me. > Lol, I'm the one who started insulting others? > Please. Another typical way to cower by asking rhetorical questions trying to sound like i'm below you. And you call me an elitist? Ironic. Must i also mention you're completely ignoring the original argument?
: Lmao, take your own logic and apply it to yourself. You've just depressing aren't you? I'v seen a few of your posts while browsing, all you seem to do is find some way to disagree, then flame people who disagree with you under the guise of "Logic." Honestly, your the one being a downer here, re-read everything, I'v been trying to be kind, but you're so blunt and basic. Stop being an elitist honestly, stop acting as if your better because even if you don't think you are, that's the aura your giving. So what if I made a joke, you had no reason to insult it? If I made two people laugh, that's great, what's wrong with that. But no, you have to purse it "if your not ready to have a normal argument" Really? This is what you define as a normal argument, you constantly insulting others in the name of logic. Get this. I'm not insulting boards, I'm irked with you. I never once said I found boards negative, I just don't think it's fair to consider it normally filled with positive arguments... Well I suppose if you classify this as one then perhaps it is. An argument consists of two opposing sides with differing ideals, with logic or ideals or something of the sort to back it up. What you are doing is stating an opinion, and shaming everyone who disagrees with you in the name of "arguments." Stating in a way that seems intellectual doesn't make it so. ##This Is Not An Argument This is a petty attempt to make yourself feel better then others by "winning" "arguments."
> Lmao, take your own logic and apply it to yourself. You've just depressing aren't you? I'v seen a few of your posts while browsing, all you seem to do is find some way to disagree, then flame people who disagree with you under the guise of "Logic." > Honestly, your the one being a downer here, re-read everything, I'v been trying to be kind, but you're so blunt and basic. Completely going off the rails here i see. You are now stalking my profile to try and make a point? First of all, everything i say is justified to me. Obviously. You can't use that againt me as it makes no sense to try and make me doubt myself with YOUR mindset. Second, i've no clue where you took the elitist crap from. Third, maybe stop trying to attack me as an individual and stay on the original argument? > that's the aura your giving. I don't really have to give a shit as to what kind of an aura i'm giving. Deal with it. I don't care whether you like talking to me or not. > So what if I made a joke, you had no reason to insult it? If I made two people laugh, that's great, what's wrong with that. A really shitty way to reply to me is why. You used it as a counter-argument and as a joke at the same time. The former in combination with the latter is why it infuriated me. You thought you were funny, doesn't matter. It's a scummy way of responding because it's hard to respond to it without you taking the easy way out "Oh i was just joking. You're negative." Don't think i can't see right through that. LF used this shit a million times on me. > , you constantly insulting Oh so i threw one direct remark at your "shitty argument" and you call that constantly insulting? How about you stop cowering behind that? > What you are doing is stating an opinion, and shaming everyone who disagrees with you in the name of "arguments." Stating in a way that seems intellectual doesn't make it so. This ties in with what i just said. > it normally filled with positive arguments... So..neutral arguments? What? And i'll turn it around on you: When did i say they're "Positive" arguments? I said sound and reasonable arguments at the least. And i didn't even say ALWAYS. There are shit ones too but that doesn't differentiate from any other game's forums. > This is a petty attempt to make yourself feel better then others by "winning" "arguments." Ironically your "witty" response that i got pissed at was this exact attempt. Otherwise you wouldn't care to read this.
: Just got plat! Only like an hour left wow
: >Ignorant people are literally in every corner of the world so this applies to every region by some margin but due to the population in Asia, it's more impactful there. "normal argument" >Keep your shitty jokes in M&G if you're not ready to have a normal argument.
I said that because this: > Boi. > Are we on the same forums? - response i saw coming from a mile away. You literally took the easiest route to respond and make no point whatsoever just to sound funny and it pisses me off when you have nothing smart to say so you resort to rhetorical jabs at the Boards like this is filled to the brim with retards and we have no hope of making anything work here. It's not that bad.
NiamhNyx (NA)
: Actually her personality is about the same as someone who has not grown up with much social interaction. They tend to be spoiled, simple minded and very immature. I do not know this from experience I swear. It is a boring personality to give to what would look like is a happy go lucky character.
> [{quoted}](name=NiamhNyx,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ks087X8f,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-11-07T22:41:25.984+0000) > > Actually her personality is about the same as someone who has not grown up with much social interaction. They tend to be spoiled, simple minded and very immature. I do not know this from experience I swear. > It is a boring personality to give to what would look like is a happy go lucky character. Then i don't see why she was made into a fucking Aspect in the first place. She can't even remember what she's supposted to do. Something about a message?
: Wait WTF, Zoe just reconfirmed the ship you guys went out of your way to kill.
As far as i'm concerned, this doesn't confirm anything at all. According to Lux, Ezreal's never even talked to her. Ezreal likes her but Lux propably doesn't seem to know about it. It's called having a crush. And Zoe's jealous cuz Ezreal has it for Lux without her knowledge.
Kryptone (EUNE)
: Whoever made Project Vayne...
Well...to me it seems like just another Ultimate skin. You'd expect all this from a PROJECT skin.
AngelMex663 (EUNE)
: Heartseeker Nami
Personally, i'd rather see a new theme instead of re-using all the older ones.
FeeNeeX (EUNE)
: > You don't know what naive means and you're using it in the wrong context. Stop trying to sound smart. You're bad at English! Whatava ya sey prafessar ;) As for the rest am done trying to explain something to you that you clearly dont understand at all You are to naive to even comprehend the meaning of my comment so am done
Yeah throw a tantrum belittling me and run away feeling victorious. As if this cowardly method of escaping an argument hasn't been used before. Pathetic.
: Oh I don't disagree. I disagree with the "Normally" beyond that there's stuff on these forums that aren't just arguments. Of course you can find a intellectual in the middle of a madhouse, but not enough to say normally. Hell I read the fucking U.S. constitution for fun, but that doesn't set a bar for everyone else. Furthermore, you claim that you make "sound and solid arguments" but your only argument is "People not here are normally ignorant so they'll buy the skin" Hell, that's what passes for a sound argument? You even admit we're a loud minority, so how the hell does that give you the right to insult every other fucking group that isn't as loud as us? Ignorant? I know about the walk animation, so what? If I like the skin I'm going to buy it (And I do like it, although the walk animation is a shame) Does that make me a fool? In your standards perhaps, but you don't have the RIGHT to judge others in such a way. Honestly the audacity people have.
> Oh I don't disagree. I disagree with the "Normally" beyond that there's stuff on these forums that aren't just arguments. > Of course you can find a intellectual in the middle of a madhouse, but not enough to say normally. I don't perceive the NA Boards stupid enough to say it's normally stupid instead. Your point is overly cynical. I don't know where do you tread to have your opinion turned into such a negative outlook on the Boards but i've seen a lot of acceptable arguments and valid points made by people here. Bandwagon hate is the only type of popular shit that gets on the front page but people usually recognize that as bs aswell. > Furthermore, you claim that you make "sound and solid arguments" but your only argument is "People not here are normally ignorant so they'll buy the skin" Ironically, you didn't understand. My point was that in China, there are so many people playing League that even if the ignorant people there would form a minority, it'd still be a large enough of a population that it'd profit Riot in selling these skins. > You even admit we're a loud minority, so how the hell does that give you the right to insult every other fucking group that isn't as loud as us? Ignorant? I know about the walk animation, so what? If I like the skin I'm going to buy it (And I do like it, although the walk animation is a shame) Does that make me a fool? In your standards perhaps, but you don't have the RIGHT to judge others in such a way. Honestly the audacity people have. I've no clue why you flipped out here because i haven't insulted anyone. Get a grip is all i can say.
: I know it isn't significant as getting to gold but
Well done. You can join the ranks of having a banner now and a worthy icon to show it off.
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