: because 60 minute games, 30 minutes of which consisted of ziggs viktor and anivia clearing waves while everyone else on either team jerks off wasn't fun.
the thing is that it was all about mages ... then assassins midlane could counter them and snowball but in the current meta i dont see a lot of ways to kill an adc witth a shield that makes 3 x its health bar and that 3 shots you at min 15 ...
MysterQ (NA)
: No Maxlore?!? Chicken Nuggets, give him another chance. ... :( I don't want to vote for any Na teams. Let me vote for other regions I care more about. (I like NA, but don't want to send TSM members).
well the thing is you can only vote for 2 members from each team , so i cant vote for Maxlore , Hans Sama and Ignar , well tbh i'd like to send the whole MSF line up right now , i want to see more games from them but its impossible so uh :/ ill just go for the MSF botlane i think , or maybe ill chose Visciscazi top , Maxlore jungle , Febiven mid , Hans Sama adc , mithy support , i in fact didnt entirely chose yet exept for top and adc so ya know ...
Rioter Comments
Exvayate (NA)
: How does this constitute for a 'Did you know?'
I had this too before a game lmao i was about to do a post on this but uh , you were faster
Rioter Comments
Penns (EUW)
: The truth tbh. Adcs shouldnt be able to outplay assassins in a 1v1 because the assassin is the predator, he is supposed to win. Assassins cant outplay their auto attacks either, so why should adcs be able to outplay their counters? I also cant outplay a Jax or an Irelia as assassin.
so ure sayin assassins should have no counterplay and its absolutely stupid , i myself play almost only assassins and its actually pretty fair , i dont understand how u can die 1v1 to an adc exept if he is 3 level ahead , 20/0 when u dont even have 5 kills and u mess up , like obviously if his sup is with him , if ennemy have cc and u go in without keeping track of ennemy cds then yeah ull die ... now if you play good around ur champ kit assassins are strong they have lot of dmges , they can burst osmeone insanely fast and escape almost instantly , the issues are : trsitana , ardent sups , all the rest is fair imo , even twitch is tbh exept for his Q detection range that is too low imo . The only actually garbage / weak assassin right nowi s probably eve since she has no dmges and no gap closing either .
: MSF Appreciation Thread
i folow msf since challenger series and even before for Hans Sama since i know him from domingo ( a french streamer ) as he was only 16, was really happy to see them at worlds and actually put them 2d of the group , cuz they got underestimated even in EU before smashing both UOL and FNC in EU LCS summer play offs and qualifying to worlds , so i didnt underestimated them this time and put them above TSM ( might have been some EU fanboying too tbh ) but they performed better than expected they mixed their own playing style with the meta , they adapted so well , i didnt expect them to get 2 games of SKT but this makes me somehow even more sad since they actually had a shot to win today and this would put them in a decent position for at least making finals , for such a young team its huge , they have lot of potential but waiting another year for seeing them playing at worlds is far too long , just hope they wont be fuked up about some strange meta and not perform next year . When i saw the tears of the players man that was horrible , but understandable both game 4 and 5 were actually winnable was really close today , wp to MSF ( and i hope SKT will play slightly better otherwise they wont win worlds this year and i dont want msf to be kocked out for nothing ) .
: MSF Appreciation Thread
I believe they earned more fans by losing it than if they won for some reason this team made it from challenger series to worlds , and manage to get a huge upset in their group were most ppl expected them to go 0-6 , and then put SKT to match point and the 2 last games were insanely close and intense , mostly that blank drake steal on the 5th game , they did few mistakes but today SKT did mistakes too and they were beatable , maybe next year even if MSF becomes better , if SKT performs also incredibly well and at their top level then maybe even if MSF play better than today they'd lose to them , but today it was a matter of inches , thats why it is a bit heartbreaking if they got 3-0'd id just look forward for next year so they can go 3-2 , but they had a great shot this year , in the current meta but they break this meta to put ignar on his signature champs and still get an ardent in their comp , they played so well i want to see more series from them , having to wait one entire year for next worlds while not beeing sure they'll adapt to the next year meta well or anything kinda sucks tbh .
: Misfits, be proud of how much you achieved
Well i'd be less sad if they got 3-0'd tbh , making it from challenger series to worlds and then losing to SKT is o but 3-2 , when they could win both 4th and 5th game , i wouldnt say easily but they were in the lead and in a position to make it , i folow this team since challenger series even tho their roster was a bit different and the thing is today SKT was beatable , and thats why its sad , cause now we need to wait a whole new year to see MSF on the world stage again , but right now i jsut want to see them against teams like RNG , SSG to show what more they can do , maybe next yeare they wont adapt to the meta very well , not having a successful training while SKT would perform at their top top level so even tho they become much better , a young team with so much potential , well this year they had a real chance who knows if they'll even have the chance to try it next year thats why im sad otherwise i wouldnt tbh , i was liking this team before this series right now im absolutely fanboying them tbh .
: I don't understand why you expect her to be "better". Eve has been horribly unbalanced since pink wards became visible. She was reworked because her kit was broken. The Olaf, Sona and Master Yi reworks all made those champions weaker as well. This isn't new.
its not an issue for me that she is weak , but from top 5 win rates and top 10 pick rate in jungle to one of the most trash champ in league ... well isnt that a bit hard ?
: Evelynn didn't have a gap closer before. Other assassins (besides Ekko, Rengar and debatably Fizz) don't have hard CC (not counting Diana or Elise here because they're more diverish). You can build Eve as a tank and she works well as a skirmisher. Red Smite and Abyssal Mask to give you plenty of mana to Q.
but she had level 1 stealth ( so good counter jungling AND early ganks ) , ms bonus on W , more dmges more consistently ( current Q 0 dmges to champ and not consistent dmges but 3 small spikes and then nothing for a few secs exept ifu use it on jgl camps ) , and her E was great to solo drake for exemple or get some dmges on tanks , she had R to slow , and if she killed someone W would reset again , this with a rylai and it was unescapable . she also had lots of different possible build , she could go ap tank or ad depending the situation right now she needs to rush protobelt otherwise she cant gap close but this doesnt give her enough dmges ... Right now i build this on eve : {{item:3009}} {{item:1402}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3152}} / situational ( usualy phantom dancer tho ) it seems like the only viable build i tried yet .
: I mean Zed does. Yasuo too. Using their ults as gap closers. I know of course with eve you lose your execute. I’m only making a point. :p
but zed when he ults for gap closing will also deal dmges ... eve needs to use her execute and escape spell to go in , while not even beeing sure of one shoting the ennemy after , she gets stelath too late so rip early ganks , i mean this champ is pretty bad tbh , bad kit , bad lore , the worst rework so far tbh . EDIT : oh yeah also , her charm takes FAR too long to charge up !
: You mean successfully made him into a champion that's more fun and less binary?
i do not agree , i miss the old urgot in jgl : {{item:1001}} {{item:1412}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3078}} {{item:3004}} with R , red smite and auto , you get 100% dmge reduction on a single target , would be op in the current meta since its all about tanks and shield sup with adc , so u deny adc dmges and the rest cant do shit either ...
: > [{quoted}](name=Skorch,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=iE5iYaAn,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2017-10-18T16:51:52.084+0000) > > Wait Kayn got picked? > > Where? I remember FNC Caps played Kayn Mid vs Syndra, at the summer LCS against Misfits. He destroyed them with kayn that game.
it was against H2K , and we 're speaking about worlds tho not summer split :3
peetc (NA)
: Make Pickpocket Twitch Shoot BULLETS not Arrows
too cheap skin riot cant do this lul , so they have good idea but dont put what they could in it and you end up with lot of cheap trash skins
: I think zed is the only assassin i truly think is unfun to play against
I main Zed and I feel you dude , like tbh this champ became so braindead i feel like a yasuo main ( cancer anti fun champ bru ) , like ik the champ perfectly and won lane every time against him , zed beginners were like 1/13 and i was 15/5 cuz ti was a skillchamp , now beginners are 15/5 and im 30/0 but its useless cuz perma banned ranked ,i pref the champ to be trash cuz at least he is not banned , and i can win with it and against it . Assassins are all garbage currently its the meta ... exept for Zed , like idk nerf lethality , revert duskblade , and dont give 5 sec on how can a champ have ridiculous mobility , ridiculous level 6 powerspikes , no counterpaly once he gets one item exept using both sums , waveclear , poke , at least before u had a good window if he misused W but now he can Q twice E 3 times and cd is less long between each W ... then he stacks cdr and smahses you , the only way is to kill him early on to get more moeny than he does and building zhonya isnt too bad for you cuz u still an get some dmges with it ...
abdul569 (EUW)
: Hold on Rito. Why did you remove this glorious homeguard animation for Eve?!
its cause you cant see her ass that well this way i think
Éve (NA)
: "Evelynn is an AP champion"
ay ! i like trying new builds / new meta things , im myself a big fan of the full crit zed jungle or on hit akali . I tried that build on eve recently , she has pretty bad gap closing imo so its pretty good it gives you lots of ms and slows . {{item:3009}} {{item:1402}} {{item:3046}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3025}} {{item:3116}} / sometimes {{item:3146}} {{item:3022}} {{item:3078}} if you want more gap closing you can also build {{item:3152}} {{item:3800}} these are my most played new meta things in jungle currently tho , earlier in the season i'd pick pretty much any champ and go dmges reduction ( red smite , death dance , phantom dancer ) too i used to do that quite a lot on old urgot and if u R + passive + triple item u had 100 % dmges reduction on a single target for like 10 s lol so you could 1v1 a 30/0 vayne ez pz , i liked that so i did that on quite a lot of other champs , my build sometimes look troll but they in fact have a great synergy between items and usualy compensate my champ weaknesses tho . If you just want to spam evelynn well you can go for some hybrid builds with {{item:3147}} {{item:3146}} ( {{item:3100}} / {{item:3680}} ) {{item:1402}} {{item:3087}} for exemple . Im happy to see that some other players are not only playing meta and flame when other go for some special builds tho :3
Awhegark (NA)
: Next Champion will Introduce Sleep Crowd Control.
y when i read that and saw the bubbles with butterflies i immediatly though about that tho ( sleep cc ) , maybe when an ennemy sleeps he loses some defenses or gets stuned for very long but instantly wakes up upon taking dmges idk ... seems like an interesting champ tho .
: > [{quoted}](name=kargish,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=E7GAU3L9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-17T19:02:38.745+0000) > > Rengar mains complain about his breaststroke Q and catastrophy of a rework. Not his power. I haven't heard a single Rengar player complain about that. In fact, I've personally only seen how that "Breaststroke Q" helps his kit and playstyle. My friend who is a diamond Rengar main uses it to one shot people extremely fast, and that's about the only thing in his kit that was reworked. The old Q could be auto-attack canceled, this one can't. I don't know that's just my expierence. It is a skill shot, so I could see how people who aren't diamond who have trouble landing skill shots might have a problem with it, but like I said, "he is a high skill cap champ, which means if you're good at him you're probably going to be able to carry." People don't learn high skill champions just because they've been maining them for a month.
" the old Q could be auto-attack cancled , this one can't " but his old Q is an empowered auto lol , at this point you can say his old Q could cancel auto animations but its a good thing tho so its kinda stupid to point ito ut if you want to prove the opposite . EDIT : lol no rengar mains complaining ... literaly every old rengar main i know were crying and wanted rengar to be reverted ...
: Hey don't worry just go skinless to make them think your new to your champ.
but masterie 7 is here //
: Nobody plays riven except for mains .. so I dont have this problem
its stupid , like how did you become a main if u diddnt play it ...
: Almost completely lost the love for the game this season.
i entirely agree i play since several years now and i was always happy playing this game hyped when a game begins trying lot of different picks but now like idk i dont even find playing fun but i literaly have nothing else to do ... same feeling as you about preseason tho runes lookin cool , worlds kinda also hypin me up a bit , but not as much as last years ( well mostly cuz i support MSF but they'll face SKT ) , tbh i though this came just from me since i was kinda depressed before due to my parents divorce , soi played league over and over cuz i wasnt feeling like going out , and this year i changed school and dont have many friends , well i do but i feel like we alwyas speak about same things , and its boring like i feel like ppl arnt interesting at all days melt into others , etc so i was like yeah maybe im just fukin depressed and thats why , but lot of ppl are complaining , and i cant even get some fun in league tho . Might sound stupid the last thing that makes me happy right now is when i see my gf like i feel like its the only person that understands me ( but im getin away from the post tho ) . Yeah actually this season meta sucks , i main assassins and MEH either too op and perma banned ( lethality BRU ) , or absolutely useless ( hi ridiculous frontline full cc tanks and unkillable adc due to shields ) ... i'd like supports and adcs to get nerfed and mao , galio , seju too , and i'd like a small zed nerf since i otp him since several years its one of the only champ i always find fun to play but its always fukin banned .
: Let's talk about New Eve Riot, for the sake of the Eve mains.
i played her for the first time i solo jungled and she clears really fast you can gank top at like 2:30 , but on the other side well her early ganks suck , she has 0 gap closing like literaly in one game i felt everything u said in this post , even before her release whne i saw her kit i was like um ... past level 6 she is ok she can counter jungle ez but i mean she can steal lots of camps and force ennemies flash but ... she cant do anything else like yo this champ is absolute garbage , no early gank jsut good clear, not that great after either , far too long R cd , garbage teamfight , no dmges , no tankiness , not any reliable cc ... maybe i need to play her a bit more to understand what her strenghts are but actually i saw mostly big weaknesses on one single game like when u paly evelynn you dont feel strong tbh , also , even tho this has nothing to do with gamepaly , i find her new lore garbage tho .
: IMO Twitch is only strong because assassins are weak, support items are strong and AD champs have reliable defensive items. AP itemization may be the buff to set things in order...until they get nerfed to the ground because of people complaining about full ap tanks/supports and mages being a real threat before the adc can get a {{item:3139}} or {{item:3156}}. {{champion:18}} on the other hand is bullshit. What even is her weakness? Twitch and Kog supposedly have a weak early game but Trist can siege towers maybe faster than Kog with her E and Q and then W out of any situation unless against a {{champion:78}} or someone good at timing Dash/Leap cancels. P.S Sorry for bringing Gameplay to Memes and Games
well ( meh still in the gameplay tho sry ) as a guy that mostly plays assassins and otp zed since 2 years now , i dont belive they ( assassins ) are that weak , just you're in a meta thats all about waveclearing midlane roam sometimes and teamfighting later on , with ap full clear mages on midlane with a zhonya , 2 big tanks with cc a shielding support that can make the adc unkillable ,you are not that useful . In terms of stats and overall kits assassins are currently decent , just the other roles are currently too op . Also the itemization is poor , mostly for ap champions ( midlane = morello void staff , support = ardent censer )
Aenaeus (NA)
: List of good AD items. Notice how flexible they are. {{item:3031}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3147}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3026}} {{item:3036}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3033}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3072}}
tbh {{item:3072}} is absolute trash imo , its far too expensive and not good enough compared to other items to justificate this price , its one of the less built ad items tho , but i guess this list is more there to show how ad / ap itemization is different , like you can build pretty much everything as ad when u have to build morelo void staff in every single game when you're ap . Btw you forgot {{item:3139}} it gives decent stats and the active is almost needed every game .
Arakadia (NA)
: Hey maybe it REALLY is time to take a look at creep block...
did lee kill fizz or did fizz kill lee ? i wanna know !
Lupan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lit Corn,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XLaALUyW,comment-id=000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-15T22:18:35.695+0000) > > not really , EDG is 1-1 vs C9 and looked better against SKT than C9 did , also they obv were better in terms of macro imo , actually edg lost to ahq unlike c9 but they didnt lose twice to c9 ! watch group stage again before saying wrong things just to make your comment look more legitimate ... I saw how EDG stomped SKT both games before they got into teamfights and lost horridly. If a team can't transition from early to late, WITH A 10K GOLD LEAD... just...
well i didnt say anyhthing else tho , but they still looked better than c9 since they couldnt get any sizable lead agaisnt skt , also imo EDG biggest weakness is their tf , while its probably one of SKT's biggest strength , anyway they're out so we dont really care rn , just hope we gonna have a pretty fun knockout stage and not only boring picks .
Lupan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Lit Corn,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XLaALUyW,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-15T19:22:55.843+0000) > > well at this point EDG would have advanced and not C9 everyone even most NA analysts agree to say that EDG is stronger than C9 is overall , also G2 is pretty even with RNG tbh and one if first of the group while the other is stuck , so idk if you're entirely right on that one . Except for that C9 and EDG both lost to SKT twice, won against AHQ, but C9 won vs EDG.
not really , EDG is 1-1 vs C9 and looked better against SKT than C9 did , also they obv were better in terms of macro imo , actually edg lost to ahq unlike c9 but they didnt lose twice to c9 ! watch group stage again before saying wrong things just to make your comment look more legitimate ...
Lit Corn (EUW)
: Well i myself kinda fuked up too , i had SKT , EDG , C9 , AHQ group A , LZ , IMT , FNC , GAM group B , SSG , G2 , RNG , FB group c ( well tbh G2 looked better than RNG when they played against them but got smashed on both game against SSG when RNG won both ... that group was fun to watch but unpredictable tho ) . and i said FW , MSF , TSM , WE group D , tbh i wasnt sure between WE and FW for first place , and as a msf fan i put them 2nd seed even if i wasnt expecting them to win , but i got some points right there ^^ , i expected FW / WE either first or fourth and TSM 2nd but in the end my MSF choice saved me ! For quarters well since ill get the 20 points in the finals anyway and you need 34 for icon and cant get anything more exept if ure entirely right on all of your picks( which is not my case ) so y , ill go for MSF for MSF vs SKT ( that one kinda sux tbh , i want SKT to win over LZ to be like legends never die we lost lck finals but we win worlds , and faker is a legend ya know , but im still supporting msf so idk what to think unlucky draw for me ) , ill go for FNC ( 3-2 vs RNG) , LZ beat SSG imo , and close between WE and C9 but ill put WE since they looked better imo . will most likely will be a 3-2 series tbh i like C9 but i dont belive they ll make it and i pref still geting some points since i went for msf against skt and fnc idk if they ll beat RNG ... meh im too long when i speak about words but im so hyped , everything could happen but on the other side all the teams i support are facing each other its cool it secures one in semis ... but skt ? i mean they would go to semis and maybe win worlds anyway so BRUH . Anyway guys good luck to everyone for their pick ems , to every team and just have fun watching worlds ! tho as an EU guy the best thing would be C9 , FNC and MSF all in semis , C9 beeing the biggest chance , FNC 2nd and MSF well ... i already spoke about them earlier , anyway making it from challenger series to quarter finals at words agaisnt SKT gives me hope for this team for the next years ! Maybe the teams i support wont win sadly , but just hope we'll get some fun picks and insane plays ! Faker Faker playmaker on an assassin champ, maybe an Hans Sama pentakill like against UOL in EULCS playoffs , Rekkles poping off , Jensen "clapping" xiye , who knows !
and i jsut understood if im wrong in quarters i cant change after semis , so i guess since i have only 23 points ill have to put SKT instead of MSF feelsbadman
: RIP those 29 people who got all of their pickem's wrong.
Well i myself kinda fuked up too , i had SKT , EDG , C9 , AHQ group A , LZ , IMT , FNC , GAM group B , SSG , G2 , RNG , FB group c ( well tbh G2 looked better than RNG when they played against them but got smashed on both game against SSG when RNG won both ... that group was fun to watch but unpredictable tho ) . and i said FW , MSF , TSM , WE group D , tbh i wasnt sure between WE and FW for first place , and as a msf fan i put them 2nd seed even if i wasnt expecting them to win , but i got some points right there ^^ , i expected FW / WE either first or fourth and TSM 2nd but in the end my MSF choice saved me ! For quarters well since ill get the 20 points in the finals anyway and you need 34 for icon and cant get anything more exept if ure entirely right on all of your picks( which is not my case ) so y , ill go for MSF for MSF vs SKT ( that one kinda sux tbh , i want SKT to win over LZ to be like legends never die we lost lck finals but we win worlds , and faker is a legend ya know , but im still supporting msf so idk what to think unlucky draw for me ) , ill go for FNC ( 3-2 vs RNG) , LZ beat SSG imo , and close between WE and C9 but ill put WE since they looked better imo . will most likely will be a 3-2 series tbh i like C9 but i dont belive they ll make it and i pref still geting some points since i went for msf against skt and fnc idk if they ll beat RNG ... meh im too long when i speak about words but im so hyped , everything could happen but on the other side all the teams i support are facing each other its cool it secures one in semis ... but skt ? i mean they would go to semis and maybe win worlds anyway so BRUH . Anyway guys good luck to everyone for their pick ems , to every team and just have fun watching worlds ! tho as an EU guy the best thing would be C9 , FNC and MSF all in semis , C9 beeing the biggest chance , FNC 2nd and MSF well ... i already spoke about them earlier , anyway making it from challenger series to quarter finals at words agaisnt SKT gives me hope for this team for the next years ! Maybe the teams i support wont win sadly , but just hope we'll get some fun picks and insane plays ! Faker Faker playmaker on an assassin champ, maybe an Hans Sama pentakill like against UOL in EULCS playoffs , Rekkles poping off , Jensen "clapping" xiye , who knows !
: It's like with all sports: Some teams you beat every time, some teams you can't beat. That's just how it is. However, the better team will advance while the worse one won't. Simple.
well at this point EDG would have advanced and not C9 everyone even most NA analysts agree to say that EDG is stronger than C9 is overall , also G2 is pretty even with RNG tbh and one if first of the group while the other is stuck , so idk if you're entirely right on that one .
Lit Corn (EUW)
: meh why am I a Misfits fan feelsbadman , I'e prefer seeing them against LZ at least with their playing tyle they could possibly win one game and making it from challenger series to top EULCS to worlds to quarters to lose to KR #1 seed would be better than losing to the weakest iteration of SKT , even tho i'd like Faker to beat LZ by himself ( legends never die bby ) i want MSF to win so badly , like whatever happens in that MSF vs SKT series ill be sad in the end lol .
also , good luck to FNC and C9 , hope they'll make semis , im more into the west vs east thing rather than NA vs EU tho . best case scenario for me would be fnc beat RNG 3-2 C9 beats WE 3-2 and meets FNC in semis and have a close series ( win or lose idk ) , then i'd like msf to win but faker 1v9 or skt to win but hans sama 1v9 , if SKT wins i hope LZ beats SSG so we can see LZ vs SKT in semis or finals , if msf win i hope ssg beats lz cause msf has more chances against ssg than agaisnt lz basedo n their palying style .
: This is the best bracket stage for Worlds
meh why am I a Misfits fan feelsbadman , I'e prefer seeing them against LZ at least with their playing tyle they could possibly win one game and making it from challenger series to top EULCS to worlds to quarters to lose to KR #1 seed would be better than losing to the weakest iteration of SKT , even tho i'd like Faker to beat LZ by himself ( legends never die bby ) i want MSF to win so badly , like whatever happens in that MSF vs SKT series ill be sad in the end lol .
: > [{quoted}](name=Moooose2,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=Az9E901X,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-15T11:54:11.414+0000) > > They didn't say they got carried by SKT, they just said that C9's fate was in SKT's hands for the second year in a row. If SKT had lost C9 wouldn't have advanced. There is still a tie breaker to be played and the outcome of that tiebreaker will be forever unknown. If EDG wanted a tie breaker, they should have beaten C9 last week.
indeed ... but if EDG goes 3-0 even beating SKT while having smashed C9 earlier on in the day beeing more cinsisten and a better team overall while losing in a close match to c9 last week ... well EDG > C9 is an obvious thing , if tiebreaker would happen EDG would most likely win it tbh .
: whats the counterplay to akali
well tbh she isnt really strong , but i dont find her that many weaknesses either . So uh idk maybe she should get reworked at this point .
: TSM had the easiest group they have ever been placed in in their International Career.
Well tbh I feel like G2 has decent chances in a bo5 against SSG but i dont see any other western teams and G2 are out anyway . TSM keeps choking its not even explainable idk what to think , MSF is good individually and adapted well but their macro and vision control is kinda garbage, FNC is unconsistent they can either pop off and smash everything even going even with kr teams or they can literaly lose to garbage teams like wildcards or nip several times in a row ... c9 seems like the most consistent / good macro western team to make it out of groups ... but unlike G2 i dont belive they have a chance of even taking one game of a kr team exept maybe SSG ... so uh rip west bois just hope some good things from fnc and c9 since msf even if i love and support this team , will face SKT T1 in quarters ...
: PSA to Riot. Items are not supports.
items are not supports , supports are bonus items for your adc , support all need that item {{item:3504}} ...
: Yet again in 2017, C9 is NA's last hope
they made it and got WE so i guess they have their chances ! but uh at what ive seen so far they actually arnt in top 8 of the best teams in this tournament ... GAM , G2 , EDG , maybe TSM ... even FW would be a match for C9 , and they arnt out , i dont mean that C9 doesnt deserve or suck but still . WE is the easiest quarter finals they could possibly get so if they lose idk what to think NA still never made it to semis at worlds yet it could be the chance this year even tho they overall choked . As a MSF fan tho im a bit fked up since they ll face SKT in quarters :/ if C9 or FNC make it to semis ill support them tho . and if MSF surprised us against SKT i'd be happy .
Yenn (NA)
: Just got 4-manned and lost our turret at level 4. Can someone on the balance team justify this?
that scenario could have been avoided , but still towers are far too weak currently , its ridiculous ...
: Every tank is a Rift Herald now (LUL)
the issue isnt this rune , its not that op tbh ... but towers are FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR too weak ...
: He cries after every loss.
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=oN6VrrfI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-12T11:08:35.626+0000) > > He cries after every loss. I actually laughed lmao , but he only cries when it matters or its very close / bad play from him , like against omg ( remember that 1 hp nexus ) or against imt last week
arans (NA)
: EU is still awful. Just be glad IMT huffed a bucket of glue before today's games.
well last weeek they werent that better , the game vs fnc was close , fnc were even in the lead tho , and they are currently having internal issues , so uh idk what to think about fnc , but i belive they can only play better right now , and they re the frist 0-3 team to ever make it to quarters in worlds history . tbh im not a huge fan of fnc , but they deserve beeing in quarters imo .
: It's absolutely terrible on Zed. Only his ult has total AD scaling 100% (meaning base+bonus ad),Q and E only scale with bonus AD. So basically Steraks would give you around 50 extra damage in late game on your ult and the extra auto attack damage, but Zed doesn't auto attack that much and that's it. No damage for Q, no damage on E, which then will also result in less damage for the mark detonation.
oh u re probably right i didnt see that , but i myself build trinity quite a lot tho so i still get a few autos .
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Pauuuul (EUW)
: Tbh I really dislike the Zed skin.
E looks cool . all the rest is garbage tbh , he looks like he has some back issues and his particles are weird af , also i dont really like his blade
: 3200 is INSANE for the new steraks gage
tbh i think its a great item for Zed
Lit Corn (EUW)
: basically no bonus dmges while low health , just lifesteal , useless for trynda anyways he just stays at no hp tho . Also , there are now lots of ways to deny healing thats why most of adcs play barrier and nami isnt meta while janna or lulu still are ... there is no way to reduce shields tho , also {{item:3504}} is far too op , tanks are op but adcs are even more , cuz they have lot of dmges and if a janna peels for it its more difficult to kill than a tank tho ... so a fighter masterie isnt that bad lol the meta is heavily against fighters / assassins atm ...
if u guys didnt understand im speaking about old bloodlust tho
: > [{quoted}](name=Lit Corn,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0ss2A9iv,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-10-09T12:05:04.485+0000) > > . What's really weird is a full ap build is more expensive than a full adc build yet it doesn't scale as well. Back in season 4 and 5 I could shut down fed adcs even if I am 1 item behind them. You're not meant to be able to shut down someone fed that easily. And it costs more for a full build, and doesn't scale as well, true. But it is _effective far earlier than an ADC build_. Marksmen simply _cannot_ do anything until 2+ items in. Mages spike with one item. So while you may need more to hit full build, and may not scale quite as well, you start being able to do things _well_ before them.
i entirely agree tho thats exactly what i said in my comment but it apparently bugged i took that from the post and wanted to do a comment on it but some sh*t must have happened and i just end up with this ; ill delete the comment tho , probably just buged
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Ap itemization is so unsatisfying.
Ure absolutely right about everything now just wanna point out how riot fucks up with meta : Back in season 4 and 5 I could shut down fed adcs even if I am 1 item behind them. it show that in season 4 and 5 ap mages were absolutely busted . Now I just get bursted by them. and this season adcs are totaly ridiculous , mostly that they arnt even killable due to their supports , a fed adc that can 1v1 a non fed midlaner ok ... now , a 5/0 syndra or zed that cant even get an adc to midlife with full combo while getting killed in less than 3 sec even in early game is ridiculous , i hope adcs and mostly shielding sups will be nerfed in preseason .
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