: need more male champs, we already have too many females playerbase is also male so we need more males man
> [{quoted}](name=JhonTeemon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EyPEMTxi,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2017-10-22T21:40:54.350+0000) > > > playerbase is also male so we need more males man .......For the last time, a lot of girls play this game.
: Does the new champ HAVE to be a girl?
I wish it were a sweet grandma or such. But I'm sure it's gonna be yet another samefaced sexy anime girl.
: Ranked is such a degenerate and soul draining experience. I quit.
Hey. I quit ranked almost two years ago. I only play normals.
: Do you think the new champion will be revealed next week?
I don't want to see her. It's gonna be a kawaii anime girl and I'm gonna feel so bad about it.
: > [{quoted}](name=LunSeiSleidee,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FIhFJuVM,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2017-10-20T19:15:16.345+0000) > > I shouldn't complain. The more Riot pulls this stuff, the less I buy RP. It's good for me. Please Riot, continue! Don't EVER release a good skin anymore that might convince me to buy RP again. Please. Your awful job these recent months is slowly disintoxicating me from this game. I like the skins. Whats wrong with them?
: The new champion teased already?!!!!
Good, good. Let's get on with her already because what I want to see is the Swain rework. Also, Riot is releasing new champs and reworks VERY fast. How long can they keep this?
: But it's okay that Galio, a giant, animate, magical statue, large enough to pick up Lux in one hand is barely larger than a regular human in game? You're picking an odd line in the sand.
That's resizing for gameplay purpose. Very different than Valor's case.
: Tired of Yi/Ahri getting skins one after another?
I shouldn't complain. The more Riot pulls this stuff, the less I buy RP. It's good for me. Please Riot, continue! Don't EVER release a good skin anymore that might convince me to buy RP again. Please. Your awful job these recent months is slowly disintoxicating me from this game.
: Think logically for one se- CAW CAW, CAW
He MUST keep this voiceline!!!!!
: Anyone else miss Quinn's old ultimate
200% agree. Actually, make it 20000000% agree. Who, in the design team, thought it made sense for Valor to randomly change from normal bird size to giant bird size??? And then they say they care about lore.... Valor changing size at random really pulls me off the atmosphere, to the point I haven't been played Quinn since her ult rework.
: Would it be nice to release the Swain teaser at New Years Eve?... It would make are 2018 Amazeballs
: @Riot will new Swain still have a cane?
I prefer the Palpatine example. We've got enough intimidating fit big guys.
: I think Swain may have sacrificed his eyes
I think you read too much Game Of Thrones. {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
: well . . . take a look at pool party taric and you tell me if its becoming a problem lol
Yes, it wasn't a problem with League recently: it's one of the reason I play this game!! League is very varied in character designs. But, as I said before, I am kinda getting an hunch that in 2017 they changed their views a bit. As if small details like what happened with these three skins further increase my hunch. We'll see!
: Are you stupid? MAKING HOT GIRLS IS NOT SEXISM. You also seemed to miss that Zed is showing his blue abs but no, Katarinas the one thats being sexualized. Katarina is a ethereal spirit in this skin, meaning shes really just Katarina but blue and some-what ghost looking. Katarina in herself is SEXY. This has been established before, LOOK AT LITERALLY ALL OF HER SKINS. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/9/97/Katarina_OriginalSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170621013646 Also, it serves to note, this skin line was never promised to be bodyless spirits, its obvious Katarina is a spirit contained vessel rather than what Viktor and Zed are out of purpose. Please complain about something that actually exists in League if you're going to complain. "Muh sexism" isn't a thing in League, there may be more female fanservice, but IMHO, I wanna fuck all the dudes in this game too because they're just as overly attractive as the females. And its not like people want to play an ugly katarina thats deformed unless its one of those body horror yet beautiful types of ghosts in horror movies, which actually, I'd prefer over what they did for this skin.
You are right: making sexy girls is NOT sexism. Fun fact, for all my complaints about Evelynn, I enjoy playing her. I can enjoy playing her because I don't feel forced to play that type of character: I can play Rek'Sai or Illaoi or Kalista or Anivia etc. I can also play Evelynn. It's an option, not my only option. My problem is not really Evelynn per se. After clearing this, let's address the specific case of these three skins. Two male characters that are idealized but not sexualized, one female character that is idealized and sexualized. Either make them all one way, or make them all the other. It isn't a big issue in this case,but it's a big issue if it becomes the standard.
: Beatrice is a raven, not a crow.
Thanks for the tip. English isn't my language.
: Death Sworn Splash Arts
Male champion: bodyless, faceless spirit Male champion: bodyless, faceless spirit Female champion: hot bodied, pretty faced human
: @Riot - Quite frankly, Death Sworn Katarina is a LAZY skin.
I know I'm always complaining, but I HAVE been telling you guys that in 2017 Riot has gone back to sexism. The two boys can look like bodyless spirits; the girl has to look human and sexy.
: Deal.
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurs7,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dGocEiH9,comment-id=000200020000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T13:29:58.272+0000) > > Deal. Done! I'm gonna enjoy my sweet 5$.
: Look it's fine to assume that is Beatrice. But for the sake of skepticism I wouldn't jump to wild conclusions until we know more.
I'm just hoping! :P
Rioter Comments
: Beateice has 6 eyes, so it likely isn't her. I think she will likely be in the rework though, probably just not in this artwork.
What if she doesn't have six eyes anymore? I kinda have a feeling they dropped the whole six-eyed thing.
Bultz (NA)
: I was sort of hyped CertainlyT was making a mage....
It'd be interesting if it were, say, an old nanny mage. But I shouldn't set my expectations too high, and be prepared for a cutesy kawaii pretty mage girl.
: ***
Just to know, does the moderation in this forum allow this kind of very direct, very open insults?
Whren (NA)
: Yeah! I still get to peek in on developments (and occasionally give hopefully helpful comments). Still does nothing for the suffering. :) {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
I'm guessing you're not allowed to share this info, but I'll try: does Swain still have Beatrice? Is he still crippled?
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Arakadia (NA)
: Oh my god a talking Beatrice would be _amazing_.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=pejsvbni,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-10-19T02:47:58.295+0000) > > Oh my god a talking Beatrice would be _amazing_. But then again, Beatrice not talking would make her more mysterious (like, you wonder if she's a common crow or a demon/spirit). Beatrice talking with Swain might be too much like Yorick and the Maiden.
: I'm glad about the swain hype but what about Beatrice?
I think all Swain players are used, and attached to, Beatrice. So, in my opinion, removing her with Swain's VU would be a big mistake. Personally, it'd make me SO disappointed. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} Here's why I feel Beatrice is not just a prop/pet, but an IMPORTANT thing about Swain's whole design: 1) When Swain dies, you see that charming animation of Beatrice trying to wake him up and then flying away. At first she seems like a pet calling the owner.... by the end of the animation, it looks like Beatrice is looking for another Swain to use. Is Beatrice the pet or the master? 2) That cute idle animation of Beatrice hopping happily on Swain's shoulder, and then Swain feeding her. It's adorable. Swain may be a mysterious, dark and edgy Noxian ruler.... but his little displays of affection towards his bird add so much more to his personality.
: What if the next champion is a constantly asleep little girl, and her dreams come out as her skills?
: Is It Not Obvious What the Next Champion Is?
Ralanr (NA)
: This is Swain, the man who is 3 steps ahead. This is someone you want to think deep on. IMO he’ll probably keep Beatrice (the crow motif is still in the preview and no one in Noxus officially uses crows) and he will probably still look frail though his age compared to Darius’s has come to debate every now and then.
At this point I just hope he keeps Beatrice. Maybe she's the bird in the front of the picture, but who knows?
Ralanr (NA)
: http://data.whicdn.com/images/45841608/large.jpg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaii Cute and anime are different but they aren’t so different that they cannot be used together or be referenced as such. Not all anime uses the exact same style (Compare Death Note to Sailor moon for example) and many standard “anime” designs are used to make things cute. Hell, standard anime design was influenced by characters like bugs bunny and Betty Boop. Cute can be separate but that icon doesn’t seem too far off the “anime” designs you dislike.
D'aaawwww that picture is so CUTE!!!!! Look, at this point I should explain about this "hating anime" thing. A magical girl with impossibile hair and big eyes and classic "anime" look? That's typical anime. When Riot does something like that, it's copying a trivial anime trope. A cute little animal? That's not really an anime trope is it. Anime invented majokko girls and America invented spandex superheroes, but little cute animals are universal.
: He's got a big cloak all around him, and I know plenty of people with staffs who hold it directly in front of them to keep balance when not walking. We might just not be seeing it because he's keeping balance. There are a bunch of birds. One of them could be Beatrice with a new design. Maybe its that one at the very front, sitting on the corpse. You don't wait for details. You just insult and say how Riot's fucking up, but you never look for a bright side. Look for a bright side for once.
: If you give off a certain personality, that's what people are going to get from you. You give off the personality of a narcissist who always complains about something. What you say you like is things like western inspired stuff, or whatnot. However, when we got Ornn you seemed to have a problem with him. You never said good stuff about any champs that fit a western theme like Urgot or Galio or Warwick. You just waited for a slightly anime-ish character to show up then started yelling about how Riot is only pandering to the weeaboo crowd. You say you like stuff, but you have to back it up by giving support to what you do like. I'll admit it's more fun to gripe about things, but positivity also needs to be shown, and I've never seen you do anything positive. I've only seen you gripe and complain and insult.
I could explain you about selective bias (you remember everytime I write something negative, ignore when I write something positive), about my relationship with anime (I graduated in Japanese Language and Culture), about judging a person you don't know from comments on a forum. But I'll just say this: K.
: Of course you'd say this, he picked the generic scholar artwork. This is a more accurate representation of what the Scholar looks like. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/6e/Hal.png/revision/latest?cb=20121012003354 You know, a scholar and not some fairy girl.
> [{quoted}](name=Catastrop,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1oOal3zu,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T13:12:59.100+0000) > > Of course you'd say this, he picked the generic scholar artwork. This is a more accurate representation of what the Scholar looks like. > > https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/6/6e/Hal.png/revision/latest?cb=20121012003354 > > You know, a scholar and not some fairy girl. Now THIS is a design I'd love to see in League because we don't have it yet.
: > [{quoted}](name=LunSeiSleidee,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WVqi4JGU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-18T08:41:41.857+0000) > > More importantly, why another robot spider? > > Why not a void Elise, a shurima Elise, even a dark star Elise? who is the other robot spider? also all of these are great ideas to be honest. However, i still think Victorious is her best skin.
> [{quoted}](name=StarGuardian Max,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WVqi4JGU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T13:48:48.472+0000) > > who is the other robot spider? Well, SKT Elise. > > also all of these are great ideas to be honest. However, i still think Victorious is her best skin. I KNOW RIGHT??? It's the only skin for her that I'd buy and it's the only one that can't be bought. :(
: Honestly, if I thought you would follow up on it when I was right then I would.
> [{quoted}](name=Zezockary,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=r4Obs7pm,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T14:01:02.337+0000) > > Honestly, if I thought you would follow up on it when I was right then I would. I would, but would YOU?
: You hate anime. That doesn't link to hating anime. Another aspect of your personality is that you can be rather narcissistic, and tend to complain a lot about anything that doesn't meet your standards before searching for pity or just insulting anyone who says anything against you instead of presenting evidence for your side or letting the issue go. You never admit that you could be wrong, and whine about how everything is weeb trash instead of coming up with suggestions on how to make things better.
Thanks, doc! You sure could extrapolate my entire personality from my comments on this board! And you're correct too, gee, I certainly NEVER gave examples of what I like!
: We literally only saw him in one picture from behind, yet you somehow managed to extrapolate all this? It was a champion roadmap of all things too, so Riot obviously isn't going to give much in terms of details. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Yeah, at this point you're just bitter and trigger happy to bash anything.
Consider this: we don't see the staff. We don't see Beatrice.
Ralanr (NA)
: Swain being crippled is actually something Riot plays around with as his Tyrant skin removes his crippled walk. So if the developer asks, it’s more of an in joke because Swain is a mastermind who pretends to look physically inept.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=r4Obs7pm,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-10-18T14:35:55.598+0000) > > Swain being crippled is actually something Riot plays around with as his Tyrant skin removes his crippled walk. So if the developer asks, it’s more of an in joke because Swain is a mastermind who pretends to look physically inept. I may be wrong, but I think you could be reading too much into this. In any case, I don't mind if Swain changes hairstyle and shows his face (heck, I'd like it if he showed his face). But he needs to keep three things: the age, the limp, and above everything, Beatrice.
Ralanr (NA)
: It does look like it follows chibi logic for its cuteness.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MyGfeasH,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T14:38:51.625+0000) > > It does look like it follows chibi logic for its cuteness. Well no. No huge anime eyes, no oversized head. It's a cute bird. Cute and anime are two different things.
: I literally blazed with wit." William Makepeace Thackeray, Punch, 30 Oct. 1847.
At this point you're not making much sense. I'm not clever, I merely write with mostly correct syntax and grammar. If that is enough to make you think I'm smart, perhaps it's not that I am smart, it's only you who is lacking. As shown by the way you write. Since you can't seem to be able to follow my advice of ignoring me instead of embarassing yourself constantly, I'll ignore you instead. So, uh, thanks for the diversion......?
: Literally has dabble in realm of being figuretive for a long time and by no means a modern invention. So please honey, stop pretending your an intellectual because your really not. Do some research before you make a point next time instead of baseless assumption.
You asked me to do some research, yet you don't seem to show me any research demonstrating when the new meaning of "literally" was born. And hey, if you try to sound like you are correct during an argument about linguistics, perhaps you should write using proper grammar. You sound like a kid writing on a mobile phone (which I guess you are). Really, follow my advice. You better ignore me. Your replies here aren't making you look any better, and hey, why bother arguing with me if I put you in a bad mood?
: > [{quoted}](name=Brutusness,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bEZWZKME,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-18T03:08:42.916+0000) > > I think my biggest questions are > > 1. Is Swain's face still obscured? > 2. Is he still crippled? > 3. Does he still come from nothing, and had to rise through the ranks? Really liked this aspect of his old lore. > 4. Does Beatrice still exist? We know Swain obviously still has his dark magic and ravens, but a distinctive bird was not seen in the art. those are good questions, i was just thinking about that first one and was wondering why they obscured it to begin with? probably to add to the mysterious aspect of his character. the rest i hope theyll keep because like you said its such a key-feeling part of his identity. sorry mordekaiser but youll never be as metal as swain walking into a hospital with his bone sticking out of his leg and having it reset without flinching and just walking back out.
Swain's face was obscured so they didn't have to animate his mouth. A lot of old League Champions use this same identical trick.
: Hot damn we had the internet since 1847. Who knew?
> [{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ocwApv6b,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T12:03:26.716+0000) > > Hot damn we had the internet since 1847. Who knew? But of course, everyone was using chatlines in the 19th century. Strange that when I was a kid in the Eighties we had no internet.
: Well blind me I didn't know you were born before the 19 century. Tell me your secret to live for so long? Is it your never ending ego or your crippling narcisim?
> [{quoted}](name=Beyond Legends,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ocwApv6b,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T11:35:18.528+0000) > > Well blind me I didn't know you were born before the 19 century. Tell me your secret to live for so long? Is it your never ending ego or your crippling narcisim? Oh you know, for starters, English isn't my language. Furthermore, I would say this new use of "literally" was born in the internet era. Which means it makes perfect sense for me to not know it, since not only I don't speak English normally, but I am also older than a teenager. But really, buddy, you hate towards me is dripping from your comment. If I anger you so much, I suggest you ignore me, you know?
: ALL 4 of them? Age, disability, hairs and the raven? If you're really ready to commit, I'm in for 10 €. Because I'm 99% sure that at least the age and the raven will remain.
> [{quoted}](name=DeathBurs7,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dGocEiH9,comment-id=0002000200000002000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-18T10:55:10.694+0000) > > ALL 4 of them? Age, disability, hairs and the raven? If you're really ready to commit, I'm in for 10 €. Because I'm 99% sure that at least the age and the raven will remain. Let's make it 5€ because you want ALL of them to apply.
: lit·er·al·ly ˈlidərəlē,ˈlitrəlē/Submit adverb in a literal manner or sense; exactly. "the driver took it literally when asked to go straight across the traffic circle" synonyms: exactly, precisely, actually, really, truly; More ##informal ##used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true. "I have received literally thousands of letters" google is great thing my friend, use it before you make a fool out of yourelf.
Oh sorry, I am not up to modern slang. So "literally" no longer means literally, just like how "feminism" became an insult. Language is the mirror of society, so I find that interesting. In the modern era, people love to exaggerate everything.
: Is anyone else feeling physically ill over how long they have to wait for Swain?
I really hope you used "literally" in the wrong context. Because if you REALLY are losing sleep over this.... wow, just wow.
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