Elfezen (NA)
: That useless bird was just limiting his character from unlocking the true badassery that he deserves, not sure if it's really gone but if it is im glad and i hope they trashed her files for good because he can take a lot better direction on his own
I give this troll attempt a 3/10. Work harder, you're not playing at beginner's level here.
: Tonally, Beatrice always ran the risk of making Swain feel more like a tropey pirate captain than a grimdark ruler of an expansionist nation. I feel for those who’ll miss her, but thankfully she was never a _huge_ aspect of his character so the loss isn’t so bad — Swain hardly even refers to Beatrice in his VO, and much less by name. She really felt more like an accessory than anything.
I guess you make a point, yet I am very bitter about the disappearance of Beatrice. She was one of the main reasons I liked Swain so much. Maybe because I'm a bird owner myself? Still, this board is the usual hivemind and of course now everyone wants Beatrice to disappear from the game. I guess I should forget about Swain and move on.... in fact, since the changes in League bother me so much, I should stop reading the game's updates as they always seem to make me bitter.
: > [{quoted}](name=LunSeiSleidee,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=u2T949QJ,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-01-18T19:08:47.461+0000) > > Well, I intended to avoid the forums just as I avoid the actual game, but I'm still keeping an eye on it. > > Still, my presence in this forum has become rare too. > > Wait a second, why should I justify anything to you? > > If Beatrice is a boring demon and not an adorable birdie hopping happily on the shoulder of Swain, then Riot has failed everything and I was correct in my impression that Riot now sucks. I want you to remember fan theories that Beatrice was always meant to be some kind of demonic presence, and a lot of Swain Mains who spoke of what they want the retcon to be was hoping for Beatrice to be a demonic presence that granted him the ability of transformation and the likes. With that being said, "Boring demon" over adorable birdie, is preferred. At the very least, the demon could be made interesting, but if Beatrice is only some chirpy bird, that will bring about more disappointment cause they did NOTHING with Beatrice, but make her...a bird.
Chirpy birds are full of personality. Much more so than demonic possessions. We already have Yorick and Kayn for the demonic possession, not to mention, if you stretch it enough, Lamb and Varus. Do we really need ANOTHER demonic possession? If you think the bird would make him a tropey pirate: yes, the bird would make him a tropey pirate if the authors are very poor at character design.
: Problem? No. Just seems odd to keep coming in and making demands when you’re not even a customer anymore. I know for my part I’m planning on leaving when the Panth rework hits. Don’t expect to keep hovering around the boards after that. Makes one look uncertain and wishy-washy with their convictions.
Yep, I'm uncertain about my decisions! Not about my convictions - I am VERY certain about my convictions. But decisions? I am always open for change. So, yes, I know you just want me to magically leave the forum (too difficult to ignore me, I guess, even if I hardly post here anymore). I know I said I would leave the forums yet sometimes I am still here, which means I am not a person who is 100% certain of their decisions - at least, of their small decisions. But I am here for now, because Swain was one of my favorite characters in the whole roster.
Ralanr (NA)
: Sorry, I just remember you saying something along the lines of you never coming back. Regardless, as stated before, Beatrice is probably the demon he made the deal with now instead of just the raven on his shoulder.
Well, I intended to avoid the forums just as I avoid the actual game, but I'm still keeping an eye on it. Still, my presence in this forum has become rare too. Wait a second, why should I justify anything to you? If Beatrice is a boring demon and not an adorable birdie hopping happily on the shoulder of Swain, then Riot has failed everything and I was correct in my impression that Riot now sucks.
: I mean if you're not playing the game... is there any weight to your threat of continuing to not play the game? Also does your voice or input matter towards a game that you're not playing?
Yes, you know. There is a weight to my threat, as any good marketer knows. Reactions from customers, past customers, returning customers, why did the customer leave, what does the customer want.... Or maybe my threat is pointless. So? I am still free to express my opinion, I should hope. You're free to ignore it I guess.
Weedbro (NA)
: lol you sure are pushy
Ralanr (NA)
: I thought you were gone for good to play Heroes of the storm?
Yes? Check out my games log, my last game was quite long ago. That's why I said "I will never REINSTALL". :P I'm not playing this game anymore, but I'm still keeping an eye on what Riot is doing when it comes to artistic choices. So? Got a problem with it?
Rioter Comments
: Noxus is burning in Swain's teaser.
Cautiously optimistic about this. He has white hair so I should hope they kept him old: and the hairstyle is the same he had before, but less silly. I just hope I'm not up for a sudden disappointment. Wait, **WHERE'S BEATRICE?????????**
: LoL needs a female Martial Artist
And of course it's a hot anime girl in a bunny outfit. "Martial artist", suuuuuuuure.
: Brand new to the game and I refuse to pay money to gain champions. Back to Dota 2 i guess.
> [{quoted}](name=rAndoMdoGma,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=61MToYLy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-14T16:01:11.419+0000) > > Brand new to the game and I refuse to pay money to gain champions. Back to Dota 2 i guess. I suggest you to try Heroes Of The Storm. At the beginning it'll be very confusing since it's MUCH different from a traditional moba, but once you get the hang of its gameplay you won't go back to older moba games.
Arakadia (NA)
: Or it's just silly curiosity and your using cute to be arrogant and pull yourself onto a high horse.
Age isn't something to use to put yourself con a high borse. Correct grammar, however.......
Arakadia (NA)
: Yeah I also that this post was _cute_. Absolutely what I was thinking. Calm your pits.
Well it is a cute question. It implies a very superficial, naive, young understanding of sex and relationships. Like a kid asking where do babies come from: it's cute.
: Ugh. No I hope not. I hate this. How many possessed or manipulated by ancient evil heroes do we have already? Every Darkin and Targon hero except Sol. I want a man, a normal man, to be just that clever. That’s a character I want to read and play as. Not another ancient evil showing that people can be weak. I already know people can be weak. I want the grand general to actually be the grand general. Ignoring all the pretenses. Thrawn. I want to play Thrawn.
Sorry, I have no idea who Thrawn is. :/ Well, Swain can still be a normal man while having the demon bird. I just want birds, ok? I want Beatrice to have an important role, is all.
: skin schedule is honestly so fucked
Pretty simple, Riot thinks only about making more money. All businesses do that, but SOME businesses are better at doing that while also caring about art and customers. Unfortunately, Riot is so rich they got overconfident, so their one and only thought is how to make money fast, with no longer disguising it. They saw Lux is played a lot, they keep giving her skins. They saw A. Sol is not played much, they don't give him a skin. I could expect another Lux skin before A. Sol will get his first non-release skin. $$$$$$$$$$$$$
: Sometimes I feel like the only person that doesn't think Xayah and Rakan are a cute couple{{sticker:sg-lulu}}
They do feel like the idea of a cute couple that a 13 years old who never had a gf/bf has. Not a real couple, tho.
: That’s one I hope for as well. It should be indisputable that Beatrice is just Swain’s tool. Swain is the one truly in control of everything.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Dienekes,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=GTTbyZ2F,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2018-01-07T13:57:09.917+0000) > > That’s one I hope for as well. It should be indisputable that Beatrice is just Swain’s tool. Swain is the one truly in control of everything. I've always much preferred the idea that Swain is just Beatrice's tool. Swain thinks he's in control.... but he's not, even someone smart and cunning like him got played like a fiddle. Because that's what demons do when they make pacts with humans, and let's assume Beatrice is a demon.
: > He's going to be at least a little more attractive and charismatic than his current incarnation. Think more "dapper old man" over "fanservice" WE WANT SILVER DADDY SWAIN!
No we don't darn it, I don't play videogames for fap material, but for interesting designs!
: Things We Know About Swain VGU So Far
WHERE IS BEATRICE, is my one and only question....
: Did illaoi and gp got to consumate their relationship ?
The kind of cute, naive questions asked by young preteens.....
: This entire discussion is purely hypothetical. Riot knows many ways to make a quick buck, but copying characters from other games is something even they wouldn't sink to. Plus, I thought you moved on to HotS or something? Why do you keep stalking the League boards?
Why yes, I HAVE moved to HotS months ago. I sometimes still make a quick appearance in these forums because I used to play and love this game so much that seeing it gone down the drain makes me angry and I want to express it. Although I feel the need to express it less and less as I lose interest in this game more and more. Also, they're about to rework Swain, who WAS one of my most favorite characters. I'm here to see just how badly they'll ruin it - because there's no doubt they will ruin the character, the only thing to figure out is just how much. It's a fun scenario, tho, I'll admit. I haven't played League for a long time yet I still feel compelled to visit the forums.
: Do you think Swain is still crippled?
I bet he will not be crippled anymore, and he will also be canonically handsome in a manga-style way. That's the new Riot for you.
: What characters outside of LOL do you want to be a champion/ be added into the game?
Are you kidding me? Now this game has gone so much down the drain that the players are asking to see NOT original characters, but characters from other games?
SpyroTF (NA)
: Swain is a "silver fox" now according to Reav3
Riot doesn't do "ugly" characters anymore. :( Making an "ugly" character requires much more creativity than making a "pretty" one. But, judging by the upvotes, Riot knows it's what their playerbase wants. Riot is now fully aiming at a preteen audience and preteens usually like cute anime characters.
: That's the kind fitting someone trying to give LB a personality :^)
Why are you trying to give LeBlanc a personality when Riot themselves didn't bother?
: Some player types are more likely to engage with the lore than others
Riot actively pulled me away from the lore, by ruining their own lore again and again. They didn't learn that more complicated does not always mean better; they didn't figure out that turning a years-old character's origin story completely upside-down is never acceptable.
: My headcannon is always that she fucks with him by either leaving her lingerie-wearing clone in his room or leaves a clone in the bathroom until he starts banging on the door. Or if they have offices she pops her clone in while she's still driving to work {{sticker:leblanc-funny}}
That's the kind of canon fitting a fourteen years old.
: If Swain and LeBlanc ever becomes a thing in the new lore
LeBlanc is a boring, underdeveloped and generic character. Swain deserves much better than that. In fact, he already has much better than that: he has Beatrice.
: He at least will likely have a cane or limp, as his new brief lore blurb mentioned he was crippled in Ionia.
: Any superficial Swain trivia you guys at Riot are willing to drop?
Will he be younger? Will he have more hair on his head? Will he no longer need a cane to walk? Will he no longer have beatrice? And, Riot, if I am correct in all of these predictions, can I have a refund?
: Any superficial Swain trivia you guys at Riot are willing to drop?
Is he younger? Prettier? Without Beatrice? Without limp? Am I correct in all of my guesses, Riot? If I am correct in all of my guesses, can I get a refund?
: No, just Kalista. I will never not hate that champion with a burning passion.
Ah, now that explains it, you've got a grudge against her. Ok then. :P
: Hard pass on Kalista, bitch is a wraith, she's supposed to be emaciated.
> [{quoted}](name=junglerboy16,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=g0Ua6NZ0,comment-id=00010003000000000002,timestamp=2017-12-14T03:04:41.433+0000) > > Hard pass on Kalista, bitch is a wraith, she's supposed to be emaciated. Randomly calling women bitches.
: I have a serious soft spot for ol' Aeoli The Sandwich Priestess. She and Leona are my two "don't mess with my ADC" thicc girl supports. (Spoiler alert: Illaoi support is epic. Max E first, watch the sadness consume your enemies.) (Also C3Sound's tentacle slap sound design is so darn satisfying) (I'm done with parenthesis now)
Riot please, can you STOP speaking like a 12 years old to appease your audience? Because I'm sure you're a grown man, Treblmuffin, so seeing you use the word "thicc" to sound cool&hip to kids here, is just jarring. Like that one time another Rioter said he'd want to have sex with Evelynn. Can you stop pretending you're 12 years old too like your playerbase? Adults should be a model to kids, not the other way around. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the kids love it when you Riot guys do that and speak like them. But are you just ignoring all adults? This game used to be for everyone. Not just kids.
333lom (EUNE)
: Can we talk about this new Varus splash
He has those ugly "yaoi manga proportions". This is just another step of Riot going way too far into anime/manga clichés. For the record, nothing wrong in taking inspiration from manga/anime, but taking the BAD things about it? If I like superhero artworks, that doesn't mean I also want the artists to draw wacky anatomy, balloon boobs and no feet. The old splash art looked more rough, yet it was actually a much better drawing than the new one, with the oversized torso and purdy lips.
Xurreal (NA)
: Go to surrenderat20.com They actually paid attention. You can't always expect instant results. But you can expect results.
Eedat (NA)
: > If you really wanted things to change for the better, you should play the game less No, if you're unhappy with the changes you should stop buying RP. How much you play really has nothing to do with it if you're still buying stuff
That's a very good point, I must admit. I went to the conclusion that playing the game still gives Riot publicity (for example, your friends know you play it), and playing the game will also mean, probably, that sooner or later you could give up and buy something again.
Rioter Comments
Speedweeb (EUW)
: Because "being a kid" and "being millenia old" kinda barely goes together unless something is weird. Also I am not sure how this possibly very traumatizing possibility is a metaphor for adulthood. If it is for you, then you surely must lead a horrible life lol. Also sadly everything is deep and dark when your directly opposing faction is the Void, you are part of a hyper-civilication in crisis, and your actions can lead to the end of several realities. "Being a kid" implies a certain freedom from conqequences. The moment you have this much power, you can't just "be a kid" anymore. Godhood and the innocence of childhood kinda exclude each other on a very basic level.
> [{quoted}](name=Speedweeb,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=HH4ERB4e,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-11-09T17:52:13.989+0000) > > Because "being a kid" and "being millenia old" kinda barely goes together unless something is weird. Your imagination is lacking. A millennial being can be a child..... if that being can live for HUNDREDS of millennia. Or if they never change, because they weren't born and will not die. They are an idea - and as such, they were not born, they do not age and do not get old. > > Also I am not sure how this possibly very traumatizing possibility is a metaphor for adulthood. If it is for you, then you surely must lead a horrible life lol. It was more about the REFUSAL of adulthood, hiding in the child form, avoiding reality and responsabilities. I'm no psychologist, but reading that I felt it was a teenager expressing his anxiety at facing the coming of their own adulthood. > > Godhood and the innocence of childhood kinda exclude each other on a very basic level. Again, your imagination is lacking. You have a very closed, limited idea of "a god".
: I uninstal this game, dont like this new change, full of bugs my team uninstal it to, Dota 2........ at least i will play same game all time. What tey will do next? put some tetris? maybe Super mario?
Daimao (NA)
: This is actually a textbook business tactic. It's called a rebranding scheme. You take X product/service and rebrand it as Y even though in actuality it is still X. They baked runes into the new Mastery system, but then they rebanded the new Masteries as Runes and slapped on the three rune page limit. Where once we could have ten plus Masteries depending on champion, role, etc we are now limited to three Mastery setups without a soul crushing grind of 6300 Blue Essence per Mastery setup. I strongly urge everyone to make it a point to call these what they really are. Masteries. They are not runes. The runes are baked into the new Masteries. It's a cash grabbing rebranding scheme and it stinks to high heaven.
Bravo, sir. Very well said. It's another slimy marketing trick by Riot, as they keep doing such things more and more while many customers, like blind sheeps, don't realize what's going on. BUT. This time, there's an actual real advantage: I now am just as competitive as someone who spent a lot of $$$ or points on rune pages. I just have to remake the two free runepages every time I queue. But... for someone who spent years playing at a constant disadvantage because I spent zero everything on runes, this is better.
Speedweeb (EUW)
: Wait, if Zoe is truly the "messenger"/"herald"/"whatever" of Targon...
This story you made up simply tells me you're a teenager struggling with the coming adulthood, and you projected it into Zoe. Why can't Zoe be a kid because she's a kid? Not everything needs to be deep and dark.
LazyW0lf (NA)
: Is anyone else just not having fun?
Riot keeps trying to turn this game more into Heroes Of The Storm... and keeps failing.
: Swain might have chance to be release in december. PBE in Dec while his live is in Jan 2018
I can't wait to see Riot completely destroy he who was one of my favorite characters!
: Literally everyone knows this and loves it xD
I didn't know this, since I have zero idea about who Futaba is.
: Zoe's skin...
One is a hypergeneric anime girl. The other one has a more Disney-like and somehow more interesting design.
: > [{quoted}](name=LunSeiSleidee,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XR22VAAc,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2017-11-07T17:33:27.761+0000) > > The skins ARE overpriced. Let's not even get into the matter of chromas or stickers. > As for the themes, well, it is much easier and much more boring to give the same Sailor Moon costume to a dozen characters than to invent a different theme for each of them. on what basis do you say the skins are overpriced? The other point is so ridiculous I'm not even gonna bother.
Hey, if you dismiss my point without explaining why, then why should I bother explaining to you further? I'm sure you're one of those people who think these 1350 skins are better than the 975 skins. Or that making chromas is expensive.
: > [{quoted}](name=LunSeiSleidee,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XR22VAAc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-07T12:58:47.253+0000) > > Project Skin Arcade Skin Project Skin Arcade Skin Blood Moon Skin Arcade Skin Star Guardian Skin Blood Moon Skin Project Skin Star Guardian Skin Arcade Skin. > > > Oh sure, the best skins ever... And they are soo cheap and so varied! i NEVER feel like they are overpriced or like I am seeing the same concept reused for twenty different characters. they re not overpriced.. If you compare the skin cost in other games they re great value for money. And whats wrong with using the same theme with different champions lol? I may not play zilean but I'll greatly enjoy bloodmoon jhin - thats the whole point of sharing themes...
The skins ARE overpriced. Let's not even get into the matter of chromas or stickers. As for the themes, well, it is much easier and much more boring to give the same Sailor Moon costume to a dozen characters than to invent a different theme for each of them.
: Riot does the best skins in any moba game
Project Skin Arcade Skin Project Skin Arcade Skin Blood Moon Skin Arcade Skin Star Guardian Skin Blood Moon Skin Project Skin Star Guardian Skin Arcade Skin. Oh sure, the best skins ever... And they are soo cheap and so varied! i NEVER feel like they are overpriced or like I am seeing the same concept reused for twenty different characters.
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