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: > Match making Algorythm is extremely punishing. Only based on quantitative studies (statistics) but there aren't any qualitative studies (game vision and map control level) about it. Why does a plat I have to play with a gold I ? Or why does a Silver I have to play with a bronze I ? There is a huge difference between them (about game vision) and riot let this happen. Could you please take a few seconds to learn about matchmaking. Matchmaking look at mmr, not at rank. Ranks are just a shiny reward, they have no value whatsoever. They are barely a skill indicator. Yes a master is better than a plat, and a plat than a bronze (and only if the user doesnt try to trick the system), but ranks are totaly inaccurate as a skill value.
> [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PfgjIKZj,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-02-19T12:16:02.567+0000) > > Could you please take a few seconds to learn about matchmaking. Matchmaking look at mmr, not at rank. Ranks are just a shiny reward, they have no value whatsoever. They are barely a skill indicator. > > Yes a master is better than a plat, and a plat than a bronze (and only if the user doesnt try to trick the system), but ranks are totaly inaccurate as a skill value. It doesnt change the fact that a silver V having a win 60 losses 30 hasn't perhaps the sufficient vision of the game to play against or with mid golds. YOu can be good mechanicly and carrying at trash levels. However without game vision even with godly mechanics you'll most of the time useless for you team. Like never grouping when team must. Knowing when you can or cannot dive. Knowing when pushing or not. Knowing how to freez etc...
: > we have never seen this many complains ! This is false and I can point to several points in league's balance, both past and present, which have had similar if not greater levels of complaints. Ahem... * Season 5's juggernaut patch. * Season 3's league of black cleaver. * Yorick/Renekton Release in Season 2 (BAD cases of Riot messing with spotlights) * Madstone abuse. * Season 2's shitshow of a group stages. * Season 4's Support item changes. * The introduction of Keystones in the old mastery system (Thinking emoji) Now, I'm not saying complaints aren't valid but can we please stop acting like "NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN THIS UPSET" because, as a vet, I've heard this every single season even if those problems were "worse".
> [{quoted}](name=CaptainMårvelous,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PfgjIKZj,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-19T05:17:48.179+0000) > > This is false and I can point to several points in league's balance, both past and present, which have had similar if not greater levels of complaints. Ahem... > > * Season 5's juggernaut patch. > * Season 3's league of black cleaver. > * Yorick/Renekton Release in Season 2 (BAD cases of Riot messing with spotlights) > * Madstone abuse. > * Season 2's shitshow of a group stages. > * Season 4's Support item changes. > * The introduction of Keystones in the old mastery system (Thinking emoji) > > Now, I'm not saying complaints aren't valid but can we please stop acting like "NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN THIS UPSET" because, as a vet, I've heard this every single season even if those problems were "worse". For myself have been reading old forums and the boards since season 2 however i never wrote any thread that's the first season i do it ! This year complains are way more frequent and numerous... And many of them have justifications it's not only some players angry about yasuo...
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: See above conversation.
> [{quoted}](name=Z3Sleeper,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RrGBeXtV,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-02-10T16:52:19.888+0000) > > See above conversation. The damage you give to his new q is too low... Its actual q is a click to hit if you make it a skill shot you have to at least give him same amount of damage as his old q for the main target. Malphite except for his ult has a very low damage kit... If you give him the damage described in this topic he would be even worse in lane and in teamfights...
: Malphite Q rework idea v2
As a malphite main i think this is a bad idea malphite looses his lane against majority of the tanks. He can't win any trade except against full ad toplaners... If you remove his q damage we wont be able to farm easily and to escape with stolen mvt speed. Moreover malphite has a tiny hitbox which makes farming very difficult. Malphite utility is to engage behind the ennemy frontline to kill the adc. He is good at this and adc are a big issue in this game actually so : no need to change.
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: chogath is a juggernaut (tanky and heavy damage but no engage or disengage) but other then that you make a great point with ornn and shen
> [{quoted}](name=somestones,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7YZEFbf0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-03T16:31:20.696+0000) > > chogath is a juggernaut (tanky and heavy damage but no engage or disengage) > > but other then that you make a great point with ornn and shen no engage ? his q is a malphite R XD
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: Add the tip ''15 cs equals the gold of a kill''
Add the tip farming H24 when your opponents are pushing together or when your opponents roam is dumb. Add the tip farming while you can end by grouping is throwing thx.
shicky97 (NA)
: It was actually possible for Malphite to do more damage to the people near his target when he hit them than to the target themself right? Also I tried AD Malp a few times with Sword of the Divine back in the day, it was a blast.
> [{quoted}](name=shicky97,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgAQLzd2,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-27T16:44:27.516+0000) > > It was actually possible for Malphite to do more damage to the people near his target when he hit them than to the target themself right? Also I tried AD Malp a few times with Sword of the Divine back in the day, it was a blast. Yes and in comparison with other non marksmen "adc" he would be the best option because of his engage he could directly reach the opponent team with its ult.
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Naqel (EUW)
: Don't let her get fed... It's quite silly in general to ask questions along the lines of "I'm in this horrible situation I had every opportunity to avoid and could see coming from a mile away, what do?"
Yes but here is an example talon gets fed he can easily be countered. Kata gets fed its not that easy... Why the entire team has to be punished if the mid lost his lane ?
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: the claim that garen cant be buffed for high ranks without making him op in low ranks is a lie
wow im silver and when i see bronzes or silver laying against him they all get wrecked... It's rare to see someone who knows how to play against him at this level. its like darius...
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: They *could*, but the game already has a good number of "swordsman" or at least melee weapon users. When designing a champion you need to think about how closely they resemble other champions. That means you can't have a ton of people who are a "swordsman." We already have a bunch of "swordsmen"
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6wHyqFWR,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-01-16T22:10:42.669+0000) > > They *could*, but the game already has a good number of "swordsman" or at least melee weapon users. > > When designing a champion you need to think about how closely they resemble other champions. That means you can't have a ton of people who are a "swordsman." > We already have a bunch of "swordsmen" That's still better than releasing tard champs that are horrible to play against...
: >Why don't they make more swordsman ? because this kit is incredibly generic and is basically already in the game on a variety of different champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6wHyqFWR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-16T21:29:51.257+0000) > > because this kit is incredibly generic and is basically already in the game on a variety of different champions. they could make new things
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Draehl (NA)
: Or much more likely it's simply the results of the new rune system backfiring. Same as the stupid level of burst.
> [{quoted}](name=Draehl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KTbMmNJz,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-15T07:19:17.914+0000) > > Or much more likely it's simply the results of the new rune system backfiring. Same as the stupid level of burst. Riot said they used surveys in the past and majority of tbe players wanted shorter games. Majority of the players = china and korea.
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Saïx (OCE)
: This is like saying the government released a criminal after 20 years for a publicity stunt. While I enjoy wasting time on ridiculous conspiracy theories for the helluvit, sometimes the truth is simple. People can change, T1 at least convinced Riot that he may have. They decided on whether or not to unban him, and that's that. If it was a publicity stunt they would've made a big song and dance about it, and they didn't. The playerbase did.
> [{quoted}](name=Saïx,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2kwUKTFV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-01-15T00:50:02.978+0000) > > This is like saying the government released a criminal after 20 years for a publicity stunt. > > While I enjoy wasting time on ridiculous conspiracy theories for the helluvit, sometimes the truth is simple. People can change, T1 at least convinced Riot that he may have. They decided on whether or not to unban him, and that's that. > > If it was a publicity stunt they would've made a big song and dance about it, and they didn't. The playerbase did. The playerbase = money...
Hópe (NA)
: We need to Nuke the boards and reproduce to start over.
There is no Hope. Ask Morello Skywalker to come back Princess Hope he got the solution to bring balance into Riot.
iTaLenTZ (EUW)
: @People who are mad over the state of the game for some time now: Lets just accept the truth
I remember back in the first seasons when rioter answered directly some balance threads made by the players and were close to its community. Now... I miss Morello.
: Except not and I'm pretty sure he's exaggerating about asking him to come back because that would honestly be the last thing they'd want to do. "Hey, want to make our playerbase radioactive again OH BOY." If League is in that bad of a state, they wouldn't just bring back some meme-lord like T1 and instead do stuff such as, I don't know, double XP weekends, daily login bonuses apart from just FWotD and, if they're hemorrhaging could always just make URF a more common or even a permanent gamemode (though in the case of the latter would actually be bad fiscally as then few would play ranked or norms ever again when they could just spam Zed for free wins) Twitch viewers does not represent a game population. There might be people there that don't play anymore or even don't care for it whatsoever and want to watch a monkey dance. Might have been a very good and convenient PR move by them, but there are so many other, extremely obvious options they could take. Riot is very good at business unlike EA who are up front about their greed. Very least is that they take pride in their skins, not being quick to rush them out and taking very careful player feedback.
> [{quoted}](name=Fate Fire,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2kwUKTFV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-01-15T00:33:09.853+0000) > > Except not and I'm pretty sure he's exaggerating about asking him to come back because that would honestly be the last thing they'd want to do. "Hey, want to make our playerbase radioactive again OH BOY." > > If League is in that bad of a state, they wouldn't just bring back some meme-lord like T1 and instead do stuff such as, I don't know, double XP weekends, daily login bonuses apart from just FWotD and, if they're hemorrhaging could always just make URF a more common or even a permanent gamemode (though in the case of the latter would actually be dome fiscally as then few would play ranked or norms ever again when they could just spam Zed for free wins) > > Twitch viewers does not represent a game population. There might be people there that don't play anymore or even don't care for it whatsoever and want to watch a monkey dance. > > Might have been a very good and convenient PR move by them, but there are so many other, extremely obvious options they could take. Riot is very good at business unlike EA who are up front about their greed. Very least is that they take pride in their skins, not being quick to rush them out and taking very careful player feedback. Mh for me Riot is Like Ea. May ask you since when season do you play ? I'm there since s2 and i can tell you that riot before tecent was more close to their players they even answered in the boards to balance topics... Want to know which companies care really about players ? Blizzard, Creative Assembly, Project Red, etc.
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