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Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MOuHahaHAhahaaaa,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HrL9ad7b,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-26T15:18:08.434+0000) > > You design a game for the players not for the pros this game was made to have fun. The objective of its creators was to make a game for people to play with friends. At the beginning it wasn’t designed to be a sport... what made lol successful and known was the fact that it was a funny game you could play with friends. No, you design around the pro players. Pro play adapts the moment chamges hit. Pro players are ahead of the patch changes. Meanwhile, average players are playing with the old meta they just learned about from the pro players, and the patch theyre on is balanced specifically for that meta. There is no reason to balance for the bottom rung, unless something is completely obscene, which nothing in LoL is. People make fun of LoL's balance.... But its extremely well balanced for how many options it realistically has.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HrL9ad7b,comment-id=00020000000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-26T15:23:56.587+0000) > > No, you design around the pro players. Pro play adapts the moment chamges hit. Pro players are ahead of the patch changes. Meanwhile, average players are playing with the old meta they just learned about from the pro players, and the patch theyre on is balanced specifically for that meta. > > There is no reason to balance for the bottom rung, unless something is completely obscene, which nothing in LoL is. People make fun of LoL's balance.... But its extremely well balanced for how many options it realistically has. Do you know why this game became famous all over the world ? It’s not because of e-sports but mainly because the community was having a lot of fun and they shared it with other people. The number of funny videos about lol the community etc the gameplay was more friendly more diverse and way funnier. I remember to have recommended lol to a lot of players which joined the game. Nowadays I would not recommend this game to people wanting to have fun. A game is a game and it shouldn’t be centered around pros but it should be centered around a community. Because what makes the game exists it’s the players and not the pros. Without the non pros players the e-sports of lol’s community would die ! We are the the normal player’s experience this is what makes this game being alive and not the pros. The pros depend on us to have a rent !
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MOuHahaHAhahaaaa,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HrL9ad7b,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-26T03:38:28.372+0000) > > I agree with him. They still talk ? Haha more like one sentence each 6min. In the past there was perpetual interactions taunts jokes etc... > > And you want the game to be made for the 1% of the players ? I means it’s mainly a game not a sport ! The purpose of league of legends should be to have fun first. But riot cares too much for their viewers... Why wouldnt you design the game around players that can actually play it properly? You dont design football around kindergarten.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HrL9ad7b,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-10-26T12:43:55.288+0000) > > Why wouldnt you design the game around players that can actually play it properly? You dont design football around kindergarten. You design a game for the players not for the pros this game was made to have fun. The objective of its creators was to make a game for people to play with friends. At the beginning it wasn’t designed to be a sport... what made lol successful and known was the fact that it was a funny game you could play with friends.
: Can we please acknowledge Talon in the lore already? You even gave MALPHITE a lore update before him
Pika Fox (NA)
: The answer to all these is: You dont play at a high competitive level. Baron is strong because its meant to end games, not stall them. Damage is not higher than it ever was, players are just in general better at the game and builds/roles more optimized and streamlined. New runes are far more diverse than old runes where you literally had only one option that was viable and everything else was a literal IP trap you bought and lost games because of. This.... i have no idea what youre even talking about, given the swain update was one of the best received updates. People still talk, no idea what youre on about.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HrL9ad7b,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-26T02:20:12.788+0000) > > The answer to all these is: You dont play at a high competitive level. > > Baron is strong because its meant to end games, not stall them. > > Damage is not higher than it ever was, players are just in general better at the game and builds/roles more optimized and streamlined. > > New runes are far more diverse than old runes where you literally had only one option that was viable and everything else was a literal IP trap you bought and lost games because of. > > This.... i have no idea what youre even talking about, given the swain update was one of the best received updates. > > People still talk, no idea what youre on about. I agree with him. They still talk ? Haha more like one sentence each 6min. In the past there was perpetual interactions taunts jokes etc... And you want the game to be made for the 1% of the players ? I means it’s mainly a game not a sport ! The purpose of league of legends should be to have fun first. But riot cares too much for their viewers...
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Moody P (NA)
: "I hate 99% of the games I play but I can't bring myself to stop even though I'm not having fun and nothing is keeping me from stopping." I love League and I've played it for about 7 years now and I still drop the game for months every year. I burn out, I quit, I come back to it and I have fun again. Yes, you have a problem if you hate playing and can't quit.
You still have to admit that games were way funnier back then. I played since season and since season 6-7 games have been less and less fun. THe amount of damage in the game is a serious issue and the rune reforge just gave the final blow.
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GilxeN (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=MOuHahaHAhahaaaa,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XenrOdnO,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-29T13:04:23.327+0000) > > But they did ! No they didnt bring older expansions they returned garbage classic, that hype will end in a month or two and will be dead.
> [{quoted}](name=GilxeN,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XenrOdnO,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-29T13:07:22.141+0000) > > No they didnt bring older expansions they returned garbage classic, that hype will end in a month or two and will be dead. We vets wanted classic and not more. I'm myself enjoying it a way more than the actual version of WoW and we are a lot to do so...
SEKAI (OCE)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wrw3c2NjeE Q: "Have you ever thought about adding servers for previous expansions as they were then?" A: "No. And by the way, you don't want to do that, either. You think you do, but you don't." Blizzard 2016.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XenrOdnO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-29T13:01:22.650+0000) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wrw3c2NjeE > > Q: Have you ever thought about adding servers for previous expansions as they were then? > > A: No. And by the way, you don't want to do that, either. You think you do, but you don't. Activision owns blizzard even if they wanted to do it they couldn't say it publicly because of activision... Blizzard consulted Activsion and managed to finally do it. Even if they said no, they did it !
: "Activision Blizzard cares more about their player base." Activision. Blizzard. Come on. I get you are writing to try to make a point and you want to say how you want play on earlier seasons of League but saying that Activision cares about people is part of a punchline to a cynical joke.
> [{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XenrOdnO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-29T12:54:05.148+0000) > > "Activision Blizzard cares more about their player base." > > Activision. Blizzard. > Come on. I get you are writing to try to make a point and you want to say how you want play on earlier seasons of League but saying that Activision cares about people is part of a punchline to a cynical joke. i'm talking about blizzard not activision blizzard the idea of making wow classic came from Blizzard itself and not activision. It's like tencent and Riot. Riot can have ideas and plans which Tencent doesn't agree on...
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: > why did riot went from 2.1 to 1.4 billions during the season 8 year ? Definitely not Fortnites fault, right? (it is, even netflix/hbo/many games lost some money bcs ppl played Fortnite and stopped using their product).
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2PiGrxg0,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-04T11:50:48.449+0000) > > Definitely not Fortnites fault, right? > > (it is, even netflix/hbo/many games lost some money bcs ppl played Fortnite and stopped using their product). If people left to play fortnite it was because league wasn’t attractive anymore :)!
: entire analysis is wrong. s8 was good regardless.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2PiGrxg0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-04T11:06:15.555+0000) > > entire analysis is wrong. > s8 was good regardless. if this was good why ghostcrawler was removed from his post and transfered ? why did riot went from 2.1 to 1.4 billions during the season 8 year ? if people played other games its because league lost its charm !
: >take an exemple at nasus which was really useless at early game and had to stack at least 30min to be usefull... Just from this, I can already tell, that you can't be higher than gold. Nasus, has clear power spike in early game(lvl 6/sheen), peeks in midgame and fall off when adcs get their items. In current state, in 30 mins, Nasus is already falling off unless he is extremely fed or if he plays vs less skilled players. None of these changes you listed impacted the game negatively(my opinion vs yours), tanks out, thumbs up :)
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2PiGrxg0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-04T10:49:59.296+0000) > > Just from this, I can already tell, that you can't be higher than gold. Nasus, has clear power spike in early game(lvl 6/sheen), peeks in midgame and fall off when adcs get their items. In current state, in 30 mins, Nasus is already falling off unless he is extremely fed or if he plays vs less skilled players. > > None of these changes you listed impacted the game negatively(my opinion vs yours), tanks out, thumbs up :) that's what i'm saying in the past nasus was only good in late because it was designed to be a late game champion however nowadays things have changed because of the season 8 changes...
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: Imaging crying about mode you probably havn't played more than few games a month at best...
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YEHXZxAp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-31T21:16:07.629+0000) > > Imaging crying about mode you probably havn't played more than few games a month at best... it's not about this, it's more like Riot during its early days didn't even made 5% of the actual riot games incomes however it did offer more content and game modes than today... isn't it weird ?
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SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MOuHahaHAhahaaaa,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T10:43:39.168+0000) > > You and the peoplewhich don't care about lol past concepts and ideas, you are the reasons why lol is losing a lot of players and the game is becoming trash. The damage meta, the pro and competitive gameplay, the big new changes it's because of people which don't care about the identity of the game. > > You are removing what made this game successful and replacing by new things without sense... The game was never successful because Pantheon was a 300 parody or Janna was a phone sex joke.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T10:45:32.858+0000) > > The game was never successful because Pantheon was a 300 parody or Janna was a phone sex joke. The game was sucessful because character design wasn't going around specific lore but was mysterious and random at the same time. It gave LoL a part of its charm.
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-30T09:32:19.536+0000) > > They turned him from a generic faceless spartan into something just a bit more 'iconic' and unique. they turned him into something that fits into runterra instead of a real world adaptation but hay he is now ruined right?
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-30T10:06:37.586+0000) > > they turned him into something that fits into runterra instead of a real world adaptation > but hay he is now ruined right? You and the people which don't care about lol past concepts and ideas, you are the reasons why lol is losing a lot of players and the game is becoming trash. The damage meta, the pro and competitive gameplay, the big new changes it's because of people which don't care about the identity of the game. You are removing what made this game successful and replacing by new things without sense... 2017-2018 : riot went from 2.1 billions dollars to 1.4 billions.... 2018-2019 : I can't wait.... since big changes began to appear this game only lost money (end of season 7)
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MOuHahaHAhahaaaa,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T09:01:48.838+0000) > > WTF hell no i liked the kit rework however the visual are no what it is supposed to be... I wanted to play him again. the new kit will make him viable but the visuals just dont feel like pantheon... http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lVmQsUzgO-c/VQCkrAr0BKI/AAAAAAAAlk8/FZdGHkPbuak/s1600/basepanthcompare.jpg https://pm1.narvii.com/6082/392bd838caa18bd34d28db4044947c90e2ffca6f_hq.jpg what exactly is not like pantheon?
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T09:07:20.683+0000) > > http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lVmQsUzgO-c/VQCkrAr0BKI/AAAAAAAAlk8/FZdGHkPbuak/s1600/basepanthcompare.jpg > https://pm1.narvii.com/6082/392bd838caa18bd34d28db4044947c90e2ffca6f_hq.jpg > > what exactly is not like pantheon? MH that's not how the default new patheon looks like... https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UdAZJEf6XY8/XT8PqiTEb0I/AAAAAAABWT4/57vud0mAgbgDH0kE3-79I3lc-sPJ6dn1ACLcBGAs/s640/pan1.png
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MOuHahaHAhahaaaa,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T08:52:05.337+0000) > > During past seasons i Played pantheon a lot but in the current meta because of the crazyiness of DPS it isn't a good idea anymore... I played since season 2 and i played pantheon a lot. In the early seasons he was played mid a lot... Even if pantheon jungle is still viable its not as impactfull as in the past. thats beyond the point you no longer play him your nostalgia is just nostalgia you no longer care about the champion
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-30T08:59:15.239+0000) > > thats beyond the point > you no longer play him > > your nostalgia is just nostalgia you no longer care about the champion WTF hell no i liked the kit rework however the visual are no what it is supposed to be... I wanted to play him again. the new kit will make him viable but the visuals just dont feel like pantheon...
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: you have 8 games of pantheon in the last 3 years i highly doubt you give a fuck about pantheon
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Jh6KKQGL,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-30T08:49:06.116+0000) > > you have 8 games of pantheon in the last 3 years > i highly doubt you give a fuck about pantheon During past seasons i Played pantheon a lot but in the current meta because of the crazyiness of DPS it isn't a good idea anymore... I played since season 2 and i played pantheon a lot. In the early seasons he was played mid a lot... Even if pantheon jungle is still viable its not as impactfull as in the past.
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Pyrosan (NA)
: Please don't turn it into anything more than it was; The moderator saw a low-viewed thread get a large amount of reacts in a short period of time, they didn't know and it was impossible for them to know unless they're watching the stream that they were a large streamer who had asked their viewers to go and check out the threads to bring some attention to it for his posts sake. They were using an alternative account with no attachable ID with the boards post. They did not lock the reacts because of a negative opinion towards League. They did not lock the reacts because of streamer attachment. In this case all you have to do is ask them to appeal it by going to the support Discord where you can speak directly to a moderator, spreading propaganda like this isn't going to help anything
> [{quoted}](name=Pyrosan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZAJdyaQR,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-06T10:28:11.088+0000) > > Please don't turn it into anything more than it was; > The moderator saw a low-viewed thread get a large amount of reacts in a short period of time, they didn't know and it was impossible for them to know unless they're watching the stream that they were a large streamer who had asked their viewers to go and check out the threads to bring some attention to it for his posts sake. > > They did not lock the thread because of a negative opinion towards League. > They did not lock the thread because of streamer attachment. > > The moderator saw high amounts of upvotes in very little amount of time and it's happen thousands of times before, in this case all you have to do is ask them to appeal it by going to the support Discord where you can speak directly to a moderator, spreading propaganda like this isn't going to help anything The upvotes were from accounts above lvl 30 some had lvl reaching lvl 200... IF there is a mass upvote against league its the reality and they must accept it. The streamer certainly told to their streamers to upvote in live recording.
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Pika Fox (NA)
: No, and i dont expect wow classic to last either. Its like the people that think CoP were the glory days of ffxi..... Until they get it and realize how shit it was without trusts, without level sync, without all the QoL job traits and abilities, fighting for NM pops that spawn once a week/month. LoL is only better now than it was before. The people that think otherwise are delusional and blinded by nostalgia.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=WiZENH2q,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-26T13:58:24.429+0000) > > No, and i dont expect wow classic to last either. > > Its like the people that think CoP were the glory days of ffxi..... Until they get it and realize how shit it was without trusts, without level sync, without all the QoL job traits and abilities, fighting for NM pops that spawn once a week/month. > > LoL is only better now than it was before. The people that think otherwise are delusional and blinded by nostalgia. Mh i don’t know if you knew it but some private classic wow servers had more population than some of the biggest live servers. It is highly probable that it will succeed. In which way it is better ? Yes the game is more balanced and much more enjoyable for pro and competitive play. However don’t forget that we are millions and perhaps only 1% are pro and perhaps only 40% play it for its compétitivity. What you all seem to forget is that lol is mainly a game and it perhaps became an esport but it’s still a game. And in the actual state of the game : The game is less enjoyable than in the past for the fun aspect of it. Even if it is better for competition and pro play it is worse for having fun. The seasons 3,4 and 5 were better for having fun.
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Pyrosan (NA)
: Then you encourage a breed of KDA players who go around killing everyone instead of taking objectives and you end up losing more games because your carry doesn't care about losing or winning.
i'm telling a mix of these not only the kda it wouldn't be sufficient to be elligible for low lp loss. You must be impactfull.
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: What changes are coming? And what were the changes we wanted to see in s6
Death recap and the fix of the messy and bugy client
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Frenz1 (NA)
: Why is this playerbase so mean?
The real answer is that we humans have a real issue : - we are too individualist because of our wild instincts. that's the reason 1/3 of the world has 99% of wealth and 2/3 of the world less than 1%. Most of us think firstly about us and our private circle even if it is unright and unfair. Mankind selfishness is already destroying the planet's climate so it will self destruct one day. Our specie is not worthy of living because we don't respect anything the only thing we respect are our own ambitions. We are parasites reproducing and destroying nature ressources. I hope one day an alien civ will wipe off manking before it gets the technology to spread out of planet earth because we will harm and destroy other planets. there is still racism in our planet we still fight and kill each other for nothing how can we be worthy to get another new planet ? We are not and the issue is that one day we will have to leave this one because we are consuming it.
Kazekiba (NA)
: Runes Reforged was what kept me playing League, i was rather on the verge of quitting. The old rune system was trash and there's a REASON RIOT REFORGED IT. Do you like spending 990 BE every week to get 1.2 AD on your champions and then you decide you want to play a mage but you don't have the same runepages as the Diamonds or your friends? Tough shit, guess you'll just lose games you should have won because youre missing vital base stats. You want that new champion thats coming out? Better play 30 games a week because you won't have any BE, you need to finish your AD assassin rune page you havent used in 7 months. Playing ARAM and get a champion you rarely use? Guess you get to play ZAC with ADC runes. I'm sure you'll be fine with 12% attack speed, 9 armor, 3% movespeed and some armor pen
> [{quoted}](name=Kazekiba,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A2hH6xFo,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-09T17:50:10.281+0000) > > Runes Reforged was what kept me playing League, i was rather on the verge of quitting. The old rune system was trash and there's a REASON RIOT REFORGED IT. > > Do you like spending 990 BE every week to get 1.2 AD on your champions and then you decide you want to play a mage but you don't have the same runepages as the Diamonds or your friends? > Tough shit, guess you'll just lose games you should have won because youre missing vital base stats. > > You want that new champion thats coming out? > Better play 30 games a week because you won't have any BE, you need to finish your AD assassin rune page you havent used in 7 months. > > Playing ARAM and get a champion you rarely use? > Guess you get to play ZAC with ADC runes. I'm sure you'll be fine with 12% attack speed, 9 armor, 3% movespeed and some armor pen that's not it they balanced the game around the masteries and the runes. They could have just make runes free instead of removing them. Morello tried hard to balance the game during 7 years around those old runes and masteries. then they supressed it... they couldnt balance it so they decided to power creep as an easy solution : if everything one shots the game will be balanced.
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