lol. Lack of Mordekaiser in there, I rate this a numero uno out of ten.
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: "immobile melees shouldn't have items to overcome their weaknesses" says the marksman
See how some of these items also give them ways out of CC locking and makes kiting for them easier? :^) Fighter Itemisation, together with AP, needs some heavy reworking.
: ''Juggernauts are Immobile''
Juggernauts aren't classified by being "slow" but rather by their access to the backline being extremely limited. They can be fast but you can see them coming miles away, their approach to things is really simple and binary but that's about it.
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Juice (EUNE)
: Mordekaiser is just overtuned
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Ralanr (NA)
: I want them to give Mordekaiser a tragic backstory, only for him to laugh it off as he crushes a baby seal under his boot.
SO basically just this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWYCS6k1IOA
Fasmodey (EUW)
: I think having more grey characters is better than pure having white and black characters as majority. Does it mean we shouldn't have them? Not even close. They are necessary, and I 100% want pure good and evil characters, but I think for a more realistic story, grey champions should be majority. Because in our world, vast majority of people are shades of grey. Some champions are close to light grey, some others are to dark grey. Garen and Darius are example. Garen fights to protect his country and family, Darius does that for power and conquering, even though undirectly also protecting his country. Garen is light grey, Darius is dark grey. But none of them are pure good and evil. Then we have Ivern, Braum, Thresh and Mordekaiser. These champions are showing extreme sides of alignments. Braum and Ivern are pure good IMO. Imagining more lighthearted character than them is hard. Thresh and Mordekaiser is evil for being evil. They are cartoonish villains. They are freaking evil and people who deny are either retarded or trolling. Grey characters are also more relatable and it is eaiser to descript their actions. They show much more emotions than white and black. A good character would avoid to kill for whatever reason, but a grey character would fucking burn alive murderer of his/her family. This is something relatable by most of people and it is highly shown interested.
But Morde is just misunderstood!
: Shall I feed it?
Xano501 (NA)
: Not reach 10% of Overwatch comic.
Not good grasp of English you seem to have.
: And here I got excited because I thought that gorgeous woman, Quill, was going to be a new champion.....aaaaaand she's dead.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Darius: Blood of Noxus
: With each mord related post I see, my will to start playing him increases. Is this love?
It's morbid curiosity.
: ~~you had 2 fire drakes and elder dragon, ~~full build with a support that build locket and knights vow and can heal you. you were at max level and no one really focused you. you won a 2v3 congrats. why dont you stop giving people the wrong message about a champion that is easily taken care of
We didn't have a single dragon. Tides once again showed us his A+ dragon control.
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: Hiiiii Malicious Metal! I'm glad we were able to do your dude proud. :) We appreciated the feedback that you, and other Mordekaiser mains gave us when he was on PBE. *I'm also glad he didn't end up with a Dorito helmet. ;)* The recall isn't custom, we simply took his dance animation and re-purposed it for his recall 'cause we felt that matched better with this skin. Old skins without recalls instead use idles and emotes for their recalls anyhow, and we felt this would be the best one to use for Pentakill. We also did something similar with Sona and Olaf. This isn't something we'd do each time a legacy is updated, but we felt this was a great opportunity to level up these skins that was super low scope. *Where da cookies at? :3*
> [{quoted}](name=Riot KateyKhaos,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=K8K6O1jh,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-08-16T19:03:55.769+0000) > > > *Where da cookies at? :3* You really earned these this time! http://img14.deviantart.net/2c92/i/2015/347/0/5/morde_cookies_by_nimrohd-d9k00sj.jpg
: You're venturing into "Only X rank and above should be able to post" territory. Even if a player doesn't know what they are talking about (even the highest elo players will disagree on many things), they still have a right to their opinion and to post here. I see a lot of vote padding in the attempt of small groups of players to decide what gets on the Hot page, but that is not an ethical way to go about promoting good discussions; I recommend those players instead focus on bringing good comments to bad discussions to make them worth being on the front page.
How is this in any way related to Rank restrictions? A silver player can contribute to a discussion just as well as a Diamond player. It's just sickening to see the same old, rehashed stuff on this board, usually stuff that should be put into memes and games.
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: Which bug _did_ they fix, if you don't mind me asking? First I've heard of it.
Harvester of Sorrow only damaging two enemies instead of everything in its AoE
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: URGENT message from LadyRenly
Wonderful people? You haven't seen me early in the morning.
: Responding to you and anyone else who justifies the matchups: relying on enemy stupidity stops working higher up. Explaining how you just wait for them to walk into you mindlessly and beat their asses is not useful information. Against a good player who knows what Mordekaiser does, you will never get more than a single q and tick of w off before your opponent leaves, or tanks all your damage and keeps smacking you while your 10 second cooldowns are up (to death). You are not guaranteed to be fed, and you will most likely feed when you wait for people to crash upon you instead of taking initiative yourself.
Rivens ALWAYS play super aggressive, doesn't matter which elo. People don't know what Morde does and they fall victim to that by trying to play Morde lanes like they would any other.
: Shen. His shield can eat your AoE, his E lets him choose when to fight, and his W negates Mordekaiser's greatest source of damage. Not to mention Shen shreds large HP bars and builds tank while doing so.
False. Mordekaiser's greatest damage isn't just his Q, he maxes W first, which is heavy AoE damage. Plus Mordekaiser doesn't build a lot of hp, making shen's Q useless against him while also building Liandries to make him shred max HP even harder.
: > [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kNUwQtsU,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-08-14T22:04:45.982+0000) > > I honestly see no reason to not use that word frequently. does that mean if the title doesn't have honestly you're lying?
> [{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kNUwQtsU,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2017-08-14T22:12:40.816+0000) > > does that mean if the title doesn't have honestly you're lying? I can't answer that question honestly.
: malicious metal puts "honestly" in every other thread title he makes
I honestly see no reason to not use that word frequently.
Mig89 (NA)
: someone hacked your account and played taric. might wanna check that out lol
I play a lot of Taric as of late. Mostly because SOMEONE has to play Support when we queue as 5
kargish (EUW)
: Wanna stay true to your word on that one? 1v1?
kargish (EUW)
: That I'd like to see Morde winning against Garen in lane? Not gonna happen.
It's gonna happen. Because Mordekaiser beats Garen really easily.
: > [{quoted}](name=Mig89,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7yRZBEQW,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2017-08-14T20:29:28.531+0000) > > > Pretty sure your video is fake because malicious metal isnt playing huedekaiser. it was a normal draft mode game, i wanted to show him how kog was just retarded in high elo, and i did it, you can ask him what he thinks about kog now https://i.gyazo.com/9bde11c9ede6db31fb03f904dd5b1874.png all high elo players build kog like a bruiser he cannot die, watch deft playing him Kog builds frozen mallet and witsend/maw+tabi and sell it for GA in late game he gets armor/mr/hp, frozen mallet slow, and shred everyone while draintanking with censer+BORK+maw lifesteal+ in aoe with runan+x2 with guinsoo Kog is a 710 range juggernaut he's pick/ban in high elo
He's legitimately disgusting. Zero effort required while you just right click and drain tank everything they throw at you. And people are complaining about Draven with Death's dance.
kargish (EUW)
: To be fair I actually consider this guy {{champion:86}} to be a good counterpick to Mordekaiser. Even though he's trash tier, his silence prevents Morde from doing anything relevant, and he can outtrade Morde by absorbing all of his burst with his W. Not to mention Garen can easily catch up to Morde pre-{{item:3116}}
Garen is easy. He's too telegraphed to ever do anything and if I see him charging me with Q I can still use W and Q in preparation.
: Morde bot lol. Adorable ppl actually think thats still a thing lol.
Sure, having a 66% win rate in diamond+ means nothing apparently. People like you are why Morde is regarded as being one of the worst champions.
Wind234 (NA)
: I see a lot of match-up questions in the comments, so now my curiosity is piqued. I can't remember the last time I've faced a Morde in lane, if ever, but since you're a super experienced main, I'll ask; what do you consider to be harder match-ups for Mordekaiser?
{{champion:24}} This fucker is the bane of Mordekaiser He's by far Morde's hardest matchup. Apart from that I can win or go even in all other lanes but the toughest, or rather where I have to just be smarter than them are: {{champion:240}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:50}} Bonus RNG points go to {{champion:23}}
: How can Mordekaiser counter Katarina? He can't even cancel her ult
Mordekaiser eats melee Assassins for breakfast. He has great harass against her. Anti poke with Iron Man Huge healing once she tries to fight him thanks to Harvester of Sorrow And he can face tank her ultimate and just nuke her off the face of the map. Worst thing you can do against Morde is stand still. There's no chance in hell Katarina is ever going to win lane against Mordekaiser.
Sraeg2013 (EUNE)
: Azir a common pick? Where?
He's got a higher pick rate and he's a more recent champion.
: > [{quoted}](name=Malicious Metal,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wL1c9igm,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-08-13T23:53:20.561+0000) > > > Most of them are visual bugs and weird W targeting interactions that do not impact negatively in the slightest. to be fair there is one bug that might impact your game in botlane though you do not play him bot a lot, there is a bug where selfcasting W will sometimes give W to a minion rather than an ally other bugs are a meme at this point someone that doesn't main morde told me once that morde titanic hydra bug is relevant LUL
Well, I don't have a DuoQ partner like yourself to play him bot :^) And the W bug is mostly due to the proximity targeting factor.
: illaoi
She's melee heimerdinger. Mordekaiser can just avoid fighting her and just outscale her. Plus he can get some early kills pre 6 or after she gets her R and he outplays her safe space.
: How can you honestly balance a champion if hes filled with bugs? If you don't care that the champion is filled with bugs how can you honestly have any opinion on if that champion is balanced. I understand that hes oppressive and can be insanely hard to lane against but the same can be said for a multitude of champions at different points in the game.
I MAIN this champion. These bugs are insignificant. Most of them are visual bugs and weird W targeting interactions that do not impact negatively in the slightest. He's on the VGU list and he's in a good spot, that's more than old Poppy players could've hoped for.
: The buffs/nerfs that Mord really needs is a shit load of bugfixes that people have been complaining about for ages. Once those are fixed they can see if he really needs any adjustment.
"Mordekaiser Bugs" is a meme at this point. They fixed the one game-changing W bug and that's literally all he needs.
: What's your opinion on the Kayle matchup? Her ult keeps you from getting shield on her, she farms safely early while pushing as hard as you, and then she rightclicks you to death when she has items.
One of the tougher matchups. Morde can kill her early on and mid game with a 2-3 item powerspike but she outscales him hard. Not my favorite matchup but not exactly his worst either. A lot of melee top laners, especially bruisers, struggle against Kayle anyways.
: He cant even touch Lissandra! its literally impossible! And hes a guaranteed kill anytime jungler shows up with Liss's ult ready to go. lol
I can out sustain her mana bar and with Stomraider's and Rylais I can actually manage to stick to her. I laugh at her wimpy attempts at poking me. Lissandra is far from being a tough matchup.
: A recurring, and saddening trend on the Boards is that a lot of players tend to evaluate champions purely on the basis of their balance, and pay no mind to their design and what limitations that might impose. When a champion feels unfair, many players simply jump to the conclusion that they need a permanent nerf, without realizing that the better long-term solution would be to update their design, and the reverse applies too. Champions like Azir, Kassadin, Mordekaiser, etc. all generally have their performance kept under tight control because, if allowed to be too strong, they feel awful to deal with, and it feels like the same thing is happening to Caitlyn more recently. Even if those asking for Morde buffs may be coming from a good place, enacting that would be catastrophic as long as he retains his current gameplay, so that kind of suggestion is, in the end, not all that helpful, and certainly not to dedicated Morde players.
I think this problem is acerbated by Mordekaiser having a really low pick rate. Nobody sees him in game and frequently has to play against him. Caitlyn, Azir and Kassadin are common sights and people usually have very strong feelings about them when playing against these champions. I assure you, if Mordekaiser was a common pick this board would be flooded with "Nerf Mordekaiser" threads. Not played =/= weak by any means Just take a look at someone like Skarner.
: Buff Naw Bug fixes. Yes please
Which Bug would they need to fix anyways? Most of them aren't even worth the effort imho
: Top lane, Lissandra, Renekton, Riven(good riven), Wukong. Jungle, Jax, Leona, Wukong, Maokai, Anything with a gap close and CC really. He doesn't really lose lanes just on his own, its jungler+top lane combos that just send him into a feeding spiral that his kit cant do anything about. Hes so much more susceptible to ganks than anything else. When I see a Morde I almost always force him to go 0-5 in lane phase, because theres nothing he can do about getting ganked if u pick a jungler that can combo with the top laner well. I haven't seen him bot lane in like a year so I cant really comment on that.
See, all the ones you listed, besides **Maybe** Wukong with ignite are what I consider **Easy** matchups for Mordekaiser. Riven especially is my favorite matchup as I just trash them due to her kit forcing her to fight me on my own terms. CC in iteself is the counter to a lot of champions but Morde doesn't struggle more so than other Juggernauts. He can take a beating. What *really* counters him is strong sustained DPS like Jax but that's about it. Currently there's not a lot of counters being played so I'm really happy.
Escheton (EUW)
: How does one actually play Morde? Because I have not had success on the champ. Yet he seems my style.
Mordekaiser is one of the easiest champions mechanically speaking but succeeding with him requires a good grasp of your own and the enemy's power. He taught me a ton of macro play and decision making but if someone wants to pick up Mordekaiser they should focus on winning their own lane. He's a huge lane bully when he's allowed to and really wants to snowball a lead, either through superior CS or just getting fed off the enemy. W->Q->E Max with a bruiser carry build works best. {{item:3116}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3146}} {{item:3135}} /{{item:3143}} /{{item:3065}}
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