Rioter Comments
wolvius (EUW)
: We got some much needed Lux and Ezreal skins incoming.
I love this, ty riot {{sticker:sg-lux}}
Zyreck (NA)
: Riot - Can you please take another look at the new Sona skin before releasing it?
We needed SG Sona not this weird cult-alien Sona, {{item:3073}}
: So Riot, when are we getting a Sona update?
Hopefully we won't I don't want Sona to have a passive that does 5 things, 20 dashes and 15 knock-ups. A VU, on the other hand, would be very much appreciated. But others are in need of a VU much more i.e. Morgana, Kayle, Ezreal, Lulu, MK, etc.{{summoner:3}}
YoRHa 2B (EUNE)
: Garen or Darius?
neither, they are both stupid champs.
: Assassin mains have always been whining about their inability to flatout 1v2 or 1v3. Meanwhile the competent ones would just wait for the opportunity to flank or kill people separated. Well, this meta's exactly what happens when Riot listens to feedback like that. Now you don't have to plan, or use your brain when playing this formerly high risk/reward class. Some supports have easier kits to play, for sure. But the ways you can implement Alistar's kit in teamfight, for example, is full of options. And that's what separates alright supports from the great ones. Just because you're not aiming to kill someone doesn't mean you don't have to play correctly.
> [{quoted}](name=NorthernRedStar,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xr46V60s,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-06-21T12:30:36.586+0000) > > Assassin mains have always been whining about their inability to flatout 1v2 or 1v3. Meanwhile the competent ones would just wait for the opportunity to flank or kill people separated. > > Well, this meta's exactly what happens when Riot listens to feedback like that. Now you don't have to plan, or use your brain when playing this formerly high risk/reward class. > > Some supports have easier kits to play, for sure. But the ways you can implement Alistar's kit in teamfight, for example, is full of options. And that's what separates alright supports from the great ones. Just because you're not aiming to kill someone doesn't mean you don't have to play correctly. This^ There is so much more to league than getting kills, even as an assassin!
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xr46V60s,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-21T00:37:45.521+0000) > > #If you're lulu, press your fucking 2.25 CLICK ON effective stun. From my personal experience on the boards, Lulu players apparently only know how to press E and ****sometimes**** R if they suddenly get a stroke of genius.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xr46V60s,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-06-21T06:20:55.292+0000) > > From my personal experience on the boards, Lulu players apparently only know how to press E and ****sometimes**** R if they suddenly get a stroke of genius. Tbh league is based on pressing 4 buttons. Another question: What can you do to "outplay" a Zed? Flash is often useless because he has a gap closer. Hiding? Just accepting death? Please get real, lots of assassins (and others... {{champion:11}} )are just point and click too. When they do their R+AA combo to kill it's "skillful" and not OP. When supports might prevent that it's "NERF PLEASE, NO COUNTERPLAY WTF". Don't be that person.
: Supports are still honestly too dictative over how bot lane goes. Doesn't matter if it's a braindead shield spammer, healer, engager, or some bullshit like Brand.
> [{quoted}](name=Boeing 727,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xr46V60s,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2018-06-21T17:30:52.869+0000) > > Supports are still honestly too dictative over how bot lane goes. Doesn't matter if it's a braindead shield spammer, healer, engager, or some bullshit like Brand. isn't that the core idea of a support? to aid your carry so they can actually carry after lane phase?
: #If you're lulu, press your fucking 2.25 CLICK ON effective stun.
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xr46V60s,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-21T00:37:45.521+0000) > > #If you're lulu, press your fucking 2.25 CLICK ON effective stun. it's not a stun if the zed can just chase after you after you polymorphed him and kill you afterwards, even if I had outran him he still has a gapcloser/escape you can't deny. Just like with Fizz: Even if you were able to flash twice he'd still catch you. How can you be okay with that?
Malak (NA)
: Er supports didn't take "a huge nerf".. If you're skilled at shield timings you can almost completely negate the nerfs except for the decrease in shield/heal power from items. I don't think supports need anymore nerfs though.
> [{quoted}](name=Krotux,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xr46V60s,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-20T19:26:05.756+0000) > > Er supports didn't take "a huge nerf".. > > If you're skilled at shield timings you can almost completely negate the nerfs except for the decrease in shield/heal power from items. > > I don't think supports need anymore nerfs though. the decrease is big and since everybody is so bursty I can't even rely on Redemption to heal. The only "broken" shied was Janna's. Sona, Karma, Soraka etc. were in no case broken, you can't nerf an entire class only because some people want to snowball. Nowadays you should just support by doing damage since the game is already decided by 10min.
Rioter Comments
: I guess support mains really are the dumbest people on the planet. They dont even realize why assasins got buffed so much. > [{quoted}](name=Alicetaria,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0mj7PL6b,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-13T11:48:45.551+0000) > > Shields? Nerfed, Heals? Nerfed, Duration of buffs? NERFED and not a single compensation buff was give to any kind of support, supports are already struggling with this 1-shot/100-0 meta and now they might as well die. > Remember the time only one assassin item ( {{item:3147}} ) got nerfed and literally every assassin got a compensation buff for it? Now literally EVERY support item and EVERY support shield champion got nerfed without ONE DAMN SINGLE COMPENSATION BUFF, sounds like Riot's balance team. Supports dont need any compensation buffs. They never needed any buffs in first place. WHOLE PLAYER BASE WAS TALKING ABOUT SHIELDS. Now the day has finally come. No more twitch sluts in diamond. You wanna get high elo on support? Play a champion that is actually hard to play and master it. No more spamming shield on the most fed person with ardents. No more braindead Janna as top tier support. People can finally start playing melee champions, tank supports, CC heavy supports. Soon after that, assasin nerfs will come as well. > Good job containing the 1-shotters now, like Zed, Fizz, Talon and Kata, you can't even protect your teammates anymore, might as well play Zed support since death is the best CC and best way of protecting your team now is by killing others before they kill you. Do you know what shuts down zed? Actual CC. Good leona can make Zeds ult completely useless. Good thresh can save your carry from zed any time. No more negating all the damage by point clicking on your carry. No more uninteractive boring and unfair gameplay. > Everyone is COMPLAINING about the damage creep in this game and guess what? They nerf the only thing that decreases/protects you from the damage, now that's a true balance, good one Riot, I almost believed that you know how to balance your game and how to listen to community feedback. Damage creep was needed to actually do something againist Janna, Soraka, Lulu, and other "enchanters". Supports got buffed since for ever. Nerf hammer finally came. If you dont like it, too bad. Because noone likes you. > It's a {{champion:105}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:91}} {{champion:107}} galore now, have fun containing them, this is literally every assassins wet dream. This isnt every assasin wet dream. This is every bruiser wet dream. No more ulting 5 stacked ADC just to get 3/4 of my damage negated by easiest abilities to hit. No more getting kited down by 3k health + shield ADC and their support. I can finally play the game without wanting to cut my dick off.
I can't believe I'm saying this but: You are having trouble against shields and with other champs being too easy so they are able to impair your godly skills? Git gud or - according to you - climb to diamond playing janna and carry {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} .
iDarkWind (EUW)
: You can be pissed off as much as you want, because the last two seasons I have been dealing with the meta shield that has been as an assassin player, and I can tell you it wasn't even remotly fun be negated by point click abilities. That's why since 1 or 2 years ago I have been banning Lulu everysingle time, a point click polymorph with a pointclick shield and a pointclick grow in size buff with bonus HP. If the assassin lands his full combo on the enemy ADC, he should be dead, end of the story. That didn't happened in the two last years, because ADCs had Tabis and Guardian Angel to help them, and if that wasn't enough, they had their enchanters that were overturned and until now they're still meta. I'm not saying that they're strong like they were, but the pain in the ass that Janna and Lulu are makes me want to RaqueQuit when facing them, because their outplay was to perma spam their shields on their ADC and watching we assassins struggle to do anything. Last time I checked the changs, they're going to change only the duration. If I'm not mistaken, most of the shields will have their duration reduced, and what does that means? Means that you will actually need a brain to properly play enchanters, and no longer build 40% CDR and spam shield any one because the duration of the shield would be 5 seconds while it's cooldown would be 6 seconds, giving a 1 second window to assassins be able to do something. Anyways, wait for the patch to happen and complain later, you don't have any info to relie on anyways.
If you're negated that easily by a Lulu a) kill her first b) play something easier as you're clearly overwhelmed by playing your role/champ {{summoner:3}}
: Good job nerfing every support without any kind of compensation
I don't understand how people can despise supports that much. It's okay for Fizz to press 4 buttons or Zed to press R and miss 2 abilities killing another player but supports should be not be able to do something because it's your job to kill? Well guess what, it is our job to make yours diffcult. If you go in a 2v1 knowing the supp has ult and items up and you die, it's your fault. If you can go in and out making the adc + supp use their cds, you did your job. Assassins have lower cd so they can go back 1min later and finish the job. No support is overpowered they just have a different role and people think because they can't 2v1 or 3v1, when supports are around the role is op. Only Janna and Lulu had the incredibly long lasting shields. Healing was in no way op. If it's such a big problem buy an item/take ignite/OR JUST KILL THE SUPP FIRST. Games aren't supposed to be 30-10 at 20min and supports are one of the few things in league that can prevent snowballing. Some people want the role to be completely meaningless just because it's different. Furthermore please stop talking about "skill". If you find supports SO easy to play since they are able to impede your "high skill expression" without "skill" consider playing easier champs and stop blaming an entire class for doing their job. Yours ever A support main {{sticker:sona-playing}}

Melvor

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