: Start of season just highlights RIOTs lack of respect for their customers.
I see the fanboys are out in force. Today they downvote. Tomorrow they cry of champion imbalance ;)
Rioter Comments
: Ranking system still sucks
> [{quoted}](name=cheese pufff,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TyE9QNNP,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-31T21:48:52.344+0000) > > Hit diamond2 on my main, next game i win and go up 13lp, following match my jayce mid rages cause he is solo killed roughly 4 minutes in so its a loss 4v5 thats fine cant win them all. I go down to 0lp from that loss and then was autofilled and lost.... i got demoted and now must win 5 in a row to be where i just was your system is complete ass. It's BS. You get to promos.....win them and you start the next tier at 0 LP. Lose them and you lose around 40 LP too. How is that fair? Or balanced? A fair system would give you the promos then if you lose them then in your next lose you lose LP. Saddest if all it takes a person to experience this injustice before they actually stop supporting it. Sad. Sad. Sad.
: How do you break the 10 cs / min barrier?
I break that regularly. Doesn't mean shit. You'll still get dumped with feeders the more CS you get. That's balance according to RIOT...you must be good...so here have some noobs.
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Wolity (EUW)
: You was toxic thats why you got banned.
> [{quoted}](name=Wolity,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qg0l4ZoQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-28T08:50:05.399+0000) > > You was toxic thats why you got banned. Rubbish. He got banned because the same verbal abusers he abused back reported him. Happens all the time. Some kid calls you a feeder noob you call him a feeder trashbag but he and someone else reports you. You DONT report them. Guess who gets the ban? YOU! Happens all the time. Then people like you come on the forum and come out with this trash like you deserve it blah blah. I used to treat games like real life. Someone abuses me, I abuse them back. Games over.move onto next. Then I realised I was being banned they weren't because I never reported. I'm adult enough to give as much as I take and then move on. You don't think you need to stand up for yourself as an adult in the working world???? Ha ha ha ha ha what you go do? Report your boss to riot??? Loooool. Kids in this game wanna be wrapped up in cotton wool all their lives. Fyi I now mute myself in all games. I can't chat if I want to. Works better for all involved. But if you flame me in CL or troll me in game......get ready for the ultimate troll retaliation. Because I don't give an F.....
Elohaven (NA)
: From 55% winrate to 47% | Unescapable loss streak
Games shit. Matchmakings shit. Roit don't care because OP champs sell skins and players that have loss streaks are more inclined to play to a win. IE they trick you into playing more by abusing your dopamine addiction. They're a highly unethical company . I've played with high plats/diamond who I'm 100% better than but because they tick the invisible MMR playstyle box they remain higher. Bad company all round. Someone should tip off the FBI so they can busy them for abuse of power like they did FIFA. I'm pretty sure if their child exploitation ever got noticed by the media and government there'd be hell to pay.
: People are afraid to talk. Everything is taken as toxic and even honest helpful advice or strategic chatter is reported as harassment. The games culture is terrible and it’s all riots fault. Toxic behavior is promoted while any chat is risking a ban.
> [{quoted}](name=Optifreak72,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zPE2REzA,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-25T14:52:37.718+0000) > > People are afraid to talk. Everything is taken as toxic and even honest helpful advice or strategic chatter is reported as harassment. The games culture is terrible and it’s all riots fault. > Toxic behavior is promoted while any chat is risking a ban. Yup yup yup. That's why I removed my game chat. It's annoying when we have mid bot inhib down, 5 enemies are chasing me bot and barons free but they don't take it....but better that then a chat ban. If I said "take the goddamn baron FFS idiots!!!" I'd get a chat ban because the system can't take context into account. You think pro footballers dont say stuff to their team mates like "stop hogging the ball idiot and start passing!"? Ofc they do. Theres a difference between competitive talk to win and targeted abuse. But whatever. Match is over. Enemy farmed up on super minions. My team never grouped and took objectives or pushed. So I smile in the lobby. Say GG and move on. No chat can take place. Thanks riot.
Rioter Comments
: Matchmaking - do they consider objective damage mostly?
I can tell you now. I've deliberately played many of my 1000s games different way to see what impacts MMR the most. And you know what does? Damage. Burst. Damage done against damage taken. Kill participation % and lane phase dominance. And also win %s. Which you can read as carrying noobs.... Those are the overarching factors. MMR does not factor: Caution/intelligence/playing safe. Objectives like dragons and towers taken Low death %s Counter jungling or stealing enemy jungler camps Total damage Towers taken And match making DOES try to trip you up/make you fail by: Matching you with players who high pick your counters Matching you with players who regularly ban your main Matching you Vs junglers who's patterns pressure your lane regularly Matching you with team mates who don't take objectives if you do (the system considers this some kind of compensation/balance mechanism) I tilt far too easily myself there's only so many games I can play as 1st pick, hard countered, hard enemy ganked, feeding bot lane before I start inting. I refuse to play these little fixed matches, I play for fun, not to have my testicles placed in a vice, tightened and told I should consider it a treat
: " I have little jg experience but here is my definitive opinion"
> [{quoted}](name=always blamin jg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xgAlhhmb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-24T15:02:01.206+0000) > > " I have little jg experience but here is my definitive opinion" Laners don't experience the impact of the jungle role? Good logic.
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: I'm tired of the mindgames of having to turn back and forth to avoid being click and point Q'd early game before boots, but even when i get boots, I'm tired of having to constantly dodge shots from in the fog of war else lose half my HP cause he finally got lucky. Even when he's not trying to kill you, he just clears waves from a distance that you need Camille's hookshot just to touch him. I absolutely hate this damned champion, and how uninteractive he is to play against. At least Yasuo actually get's near you, I can hold onto my abilities until he wastes windwall. Xerath just throws his abilities out from 50 meters away.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nqZ4fEzi,comment-id=001800000000,timestamp=2019-12-19T19:14:53.691+0000) > > I'm tired of the mindgames of having to turn back and forth to avoid being click and point Q'd early game before boots, but even when i get boots, I'm tired of having to constantly dodge shots from in the fog of war else lose half my HP cause he finally got lucky. Even when he's not trying to kill you, he just clears waves from a distance that you need Camille's hookshot just to touch him. I absolutely hate this damned champion, and how uninteractive he is to play against. At least Yasuo actually get's near you, I can hold onto my abilities until he wastes windwall. Xerath just throws his abilities out from 50 meters away. I'm impressed by your dedication. They may not see it. I do. Deflection. Redirection. Turning attention to champs with very clear and easily exploitable weaknesses so the thread isn't focused on the toxic ones ruining 10,000+??? Games a day? Immoral. But clever. And I guess what you're paid for. Well played!
Crashyy (EUW)
: Mordekaiser is not a fair and balanced champion
You know what pisses me off about Mordekaiser..... This..... Lane phase starts. He's vulnerable but like all morde's any Q harass forces the minion wave meaning you can farm under tower. Your jungler ignores him under your tower. So you farm up. Your jungler ignores him under your tower. So you farm up. Your jungler ignores him under your tower. So you farm up. Your jungler ignores him under your tower. So you farm up. Morde hits 6. Your jungler ganks. Gets ulted. Dies. Feeds him. What......the actual fuck!!!!!!!!????? And this happens in around 80% of the morde games I play when I don't build damage and farm for mid/late game. I can handle morde. I can play safe. The problem is teams that don't shut him down early then he goes on a killing spree until the game ends no matter how well I do Vs him in lane. It's the very definition of tiltingly unwinnable matches.
floo (EUW)
: Then again, Riot can't predetermine what champs with what respective winrate will be picked by whom. So how would it even be possible to rig the game? If someone has a 70% winrate on 1 champ and loses enough on other champs to make his general winrate <50% you still can't just accuse it of being rigged by general winrate matching.
> [{quoted}](name=floo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EtdJO92x,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-07T09:14:06.379+0000) > > Then again, Riot can't predetermine what champs with what respective winrate will be picked by whom. So how would it even be possible to rig the game? > If someone has a 70% winrate on 1 champ and loses enough on other champs to make his general winrate <50% you still can't just accuse it of being rigged by general winrate matching. Yes they can. And they do. Their matchmaking clearly does things like; Match you with enemies that regularly main your counters. A simple op.gg lookup proves this. Make you 1st/2nd pick to get countered Match you Vs enemy junglers that typically pick champs you're weak Vs. There's all kinds of statistically BS at play here. Someone at RIOT clearly designs MM with certain intentions. By using a person's MMR and champion counter lookups matches and be weighted heavily in favour of a desired outcome. This isn't rocket science anyone with half a brain can see the patterns here. 140 champs but then you see the same champs 4 games in a row and they're not even the broken ass ones like akali or zed? Even if you broke that down by champion roles into choice limitations of say 10 it's still something stupid like 10x10x10x10 chances of it happening over 4 games. Fixed matches exist to keep you within your MMR bracket. That's why you have MMR. It's what the system 'deems' your skill value that dictates the potential for a match win or loss through these weighted games. Wake up please.
: What can you say about my games
The amount of games I smash my lane only to watch helplessly as my mid or bot feed whilst being ganked and whilst not receiving ally ganks is far more than 50%. In fact it's closer to 75%. I'm just fed up with it tbh it's like the matchmaking system compensates my skill by retarrding (as in holding back, not the insult MODS, retarrding is an actual non aggressive word in the English language) my team mates MMR. And I also don't think it factors in map objectives to its MMR calculations like dragons which mean I lose further more than I should and so crucially.......**.this in turn reduces my MMR so I stomp my enemy laner harder. It's a vicious circle of bad design. ** EDIT: wow!! This word, a proper word in the English language is banned?? It's not even an insult Google the Cambridge dictionary definition!!
: Akali nerf
> [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M5AoKe45,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-04T22:56:55.178+0000) > > So yea.. they're nerfing akali again (woohoo) but it's like the most mediocre nerf I've seen > > 8% less damage to minions, don't touch her insane mobility or shroud or execute damage, just 8% less damage to minions > > Its 5 movement speed all over again I had a game last night Vs akali where I legit just inted and that's not something I do. It's very rare. Match starts. Enter lane. I am BEHIND my minions. Q poke, slow, q poke, slow (ms speed buff for her) electrocute proc bye bye 75% health. She hits two before me, walks through the minions behind mine. Does that shuriken hit dash across the lane BS. Bam. Dead. I could have played even safer yes but Garen. Level 1. With MR runes. Getting chunked like that? Utter BS. I couldn't be arsed. Bot were feeding, my jungler was afk. I just left lane. Couldn't be bothered She then pubstomps my noobs team mates who do the whole "I'm going to run up to this highly mobile akali and wonder why I keep dying" farce. But if you want to see just how broken she is first hand play a game after 1am......you'll almost certainly run across a smurf playing her or zed. Disgusting champ far too safe, far too much sustain, far too much damage.
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Kai Guy (NA)
: MyTeamRShyte 0/4/0 (0%) 652 damage in a 28 min game. {{champion:36}} {{summoner:11}} {{summoner:4}} Tell me. How did the system know your going to not even do 1k damage to champions @ almost 30 min? Who did riot DEMAND on your team needed to lose because you where the jungler? How did MM know your the best player to give some one to force a loss? I can see your EXP going up, your CS and Gold going up. Clearly not an AFK or DC. Enlighten me, did Riot ask you to do this badly? Who was the target for putting you on their team here?
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mvQbvj2f,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-27T09:54:42.943+0000) > > MyTeamRShyte > 0/4/0 (0%) > 652 damage in a 28 min game. > {{champion:36}} {{summoner:11}} {{summoner:4}} > > Tell me. How did the system know your going to not even do 1k damage to champions @ almost 30 min? Who did riot DEMAND on your team needed to lose because you where the jungler? > How did MM know your the best player to give some one to force a loss? > > I can see your EXP going up, your CS and Gold going up. Clearly not an AFK or DC. > > Enlighten me, did Riot ask you to do this badly? Who was the target for putting you on their team here? I'll tell you: I gave up. What I should play unwinnable games or waste 40 mins of my life with abusers? I know you. You're a known forum alt-troll. You derails people's threads by changing the conversation and are a known fanboy. This thread is about matchmaking and MMR. Go waste your day typing messages in other threads and leave mine.
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: Does anyone else feel ranked preseason matchmaking is more balanced than ranked?
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Smai (NA)
: Game chugging/FPS drops/Freezes
Small indie company..... It's a graphical overlay issue and/or memory allocation of the video card. This is why your game stutters. Most games create a full screen window think of it like a box that covers the whole screen that's cleared and reioened each game. RIOTS client doesn't clear the memory from each game so it builds up until it bombs out. Having multiple web windows also increases this. It's just bad programming all round.
: Can you extend pre season and just fix your game. It is Bathesda level at this point.
> [{quoted}](name=Glorious Teemo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3fN0xdIo,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-06T22:35:47.022+0000) > > 7. No one cares about your afk punishments and just leave when they want to. I do care about AFK punishments. But in fixed matches that cause me mental anguish I prefer not to be stressed and leave when my mid gives zed 7/0 kills and my bot just int. I'll take 30 mins peace over 30 minutes of mental stress.
Keiaga (NA)
: He's hovering at around 50% in every elo up to diamond. And conquerer isn't exactly going away. Do you honestly think he needs a buff?
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RoRqA65p,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-24T07:30:25.092+0000) > > He's hovering at around 50% in every elo up to diamond. And conquerer isn't exactly going away. Do you honestly think he needs a buff? Conqueror is being removed Yasuo will need this buff.
: Garen Winrate dropped from 54% to 50% and another nerf is incoming
> [{quoted}](name=DEMACIAA BABY,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ahPyobcQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-24T05:29:25.629+0000) > > Basically his nerf dropped his Winrate by 4% and with the removal of Conqueror , he is getting hit again I only pray they compensation buff Yasuo when this rune is changed. Or Riven. They are important champs.
: Conqueror isn't getting removed. Its true damage conversion is getting removed.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ahPyobcQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-24T06:32:06.777+0000) > > Conqueror isn't getting removed. Its true damage conversion is getting removed. I did not know that removing true damage would not reduce damage dealt against an enemy with any armour. Thank you for educating me about this.
Rioter Comments
: Thank them for what? League Of Legends isn't charity.
> [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mQOxaBmE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-23T19:30:16.919+0000) > > Thank them for what? League Of Legends isn't charity. I'm just thanking them from goodwill. That's all. Its nice they reworked Garen then 4 days later nerfed him and then indirectly nerfed him again putting back to where he was. At least they tried. So thank you RIOT. But please remember with conquerer getting removed Yasuo will need compensation buffs.
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: New conqueror stats
Seems like people have very short memories.... Conquer came about because Bruisers did 0 damage for like 1/2 years, especially to tanks. I think Conquer needed tweaks because of abusers like Jax and trynd but this will make them hard-useless. Once again the forum showing its ability to contradict itself. Clap clap.
: GAREN IS BROKEN!!!
Garen still has many counters: Naut Urgot Flora Teemo Darius?(am unable to confirm this haven't played v yet) Vayne Quinn Keenen But people of.....below average IQ shall we say....on this forum cried and got Garen nerfed, thanks for that. And thanks RiOT for nerfing him within 4 days of release and without appropriate time balanced data analysis. What's that you say? Riven Isn't stomping Solo Q? Better buff her asap!!!
Weexazys (NA)
: The loading screen tip should always be the same one!
> [{quoted}](name=BarcodekiIIer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z3oME6Zp,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-19T06:57:58.687+0000) > > "If your split pusher is holding 2 to 3 players with him, you should go for an objective, not base." > > Like for real, jokes aside, why do we have useless things like "In whatever country you would earn discounts based on league rank" when you could have actual USEFUL information to educate this CLUELESS player base. Yes yes yes!!!!!! I'd say half of all my loses come from games like these!!! Tell me how grouping will help when my team are 24 kills behind? It's so goddamn annoying! I'm splitting at their T2/T3 tower and my baboon team mates just leave mid or not and split up, going base or farming rather than keep the enemy occupied or take an objective! And so I repeat the tactic And so I repeat the tactic And so I repeat the tactic Until eventually the enemy manage to 4 Vs 1 me and then ace my team anyway. Yay.......
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: "garen is fine just never be in his range"
CRY cry cry... This was garens life the past 4 years . Stop crying.
Jesi Oni (EUNE)
: Yeah champions that you 'cant just AA' , 'cant just let farm' or 'cant just whatever' are not broken at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Jesi Oni,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZyyhY15T,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-11T10:10:10.931+0000) > > Yeah champions that you 'cant just AA' , 'cant just let farm' or 'cant just whatever' are not broken at all. Can he dive you dive Trynd or Irelia for example? Can he leap across the lane like Jax or Camille and 100-0 you? What possible gains can he get if youre last hitting waves under your tower? Yeah....so OP... #NAForuns
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Kai Guy (NA)
: Hey now, Dat why cant you just be nice. Show some sympathy and don't lie to players. Its not 1200 its 1203 games Get it right and stop spreading slander! Also if you use the op's total and that's going to be a maximum of 10,827‬ different players for teammates and allies. Why cant you see how riots Rigging the games by consistently controlling those 10K-ish Players and knows exactly how they interact with each other in game to manipulate game results. Have you not heard the boards. MM controls what happens **after **a lobby is made, it uses "stats and data" To accurately predict human behaviors. Its in no way shape or form the fault of the op, who is the only single consistent variable in his 1203 games. Learn some basic probability odds here Eedat!
> [{quoted}](name=Kai Guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=thv1JIbM,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-21T19:30:21.349+0000) > > Hey now, Dat why cant you just be nice. > > Show some sympathy and don't lie to players. Its not 1200 its 1203 games Get it right and stop spreading slander! > > Also if you use the op's total and that's going to be a maximum of 10,827‬ different players for teammates and allies. Why cant you see how riots Rigging the games by consistently controlling those 10K-ish Players and knows exactly how they interact with each other in game to manipulate game results. Have you not heard the boards. MM controls what happens **after **a lobby is made, it uses "stats and data" To accurately predict human behaviors. > > Its in no way shape or form the fault of the op, who is the only single consistent variable in his 1203 games. > > Learn some basic probability odds here Eedat! Congratulations. You win nothing. No skins. Nowt. Keep it up and meddler might drop you a hello.
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OhBilly (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=MundoSmashUrMum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJqVKopE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-15T10:14:06.093+0000) > > Don't forget the ongoing sexism cases coming from RIOT HQ. Can't be an employee there unless you like making lewd derogatory comments to women as well. Its part of the macho culture there. Where is that coming from?
> [{quoted}](name=OhBilly,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJqVKopE,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T11:23:46.172+0000) > > Where is that coming from? Google it. Its well known. But RIOT tried to enforce NDAs and suing prevention by building into employees contracts. Great company. Very ethical.
: > [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJqVKopE,comment-id=000200000001,timestamp=2019-09-15T11:58:06.430+0000) > > Ironic comming from someone with your username. Hey now, ur mum ASKED to be smashed, and Mundo's doin' it politely and respectfully
> [{quoted}](name=10Tickler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJqVKopE,comment-id=0002000000010000,timestamp=2019-09-15T14:26:00.371+0000) > > Hey now, ur mum ASKED to be smashed, and Mundo's doin' it politely and respectfully Dayum straight. Preach it brother! (And I got breakfast after)
: OK but are you smoking 2 pounds of meth a week? We have standards at Riot!
> [{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RJqVKopE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-15T09:36:38.367+0000) > > OK but are you smoking 2 pounds of meth a week? We have standards at Riot! Don't forget the ongoing sexism cases coming from RIOT HQ. Can't be an employee there unless you like making lewd derogatory comments to women as well. Its part of the macho culture there.
Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MundoSmashUrMum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RWu7MoPr,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-12T20:04:26.645+0000) > > Monkey jungler 0 ganks top. Feeds his ass off ignores objectives gives up 3 internals. I still almost carried the win. > > > Next game > > 3/0/0 12% kill participation. > My jungler is 16/1/1 I could literally have AFK'd and we'd have won still. > > > My impact in both games was next to useless. No matter how hard I carried we lost. No matter how little joined the TFs next game we won. > > > So how is the MMR system going to quantify my skill level with this amount of r%%%%%ed unbalanced matchmaking or is the MMR system unable to calculate my skill and that is actually the cause of this r%%%%%ed unbalanced matchmaking? > > Either way this game is a fucking joke right now. I get ZERO satisfaction for hardly any wins I get because matchmaking and MMR assignment is crap. You had two very different performances yourself in two games. How do you expect the matchmaker to predict how you are going to play let alone the other 9 people in the game.?
> [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RWu7MoPr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-12T20:08:33.631+0000) > > You had two very different performances yourself in two games. How do you expect the matchmaker to predict how you are going to play let alone the other 9 people in the game.? Wrong. My performance was the same. I tried to win in both games. The difference was in game 2 my jungler carried so hard I couldn't get to that same 53% KP. So how is this my fault? Your argument falls flat on its face. My play was consistent. My junglers plays were inconsistent. What part of that don't you get?
: Better jungler wins is still in effect. The balance team decided the best way to make junglers have less influence was just to make sure one of them gets facerolled per match. That worked.
> [{quoted}](name=Metal Janna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RWu7MoPr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-12T20:07:21.586+0000) > > Better jungler wins is still in effect. > > The balance team decided the best way to make junglers have less influence was just to make sure one of them gets facerolled per match. > > That worked. I have a strong suspicion RIOT deliberately have this jungler imbalance to enforce wins and losses.
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