: no, no, no, no, no, no. It is very difficult to rework an entire class and keep balance, we've seen this play out multiple times. juggernauts, mages, marksmen, tanks. it doesent work. rework 1 champion 1 item at a time.
> [{quoted}](name=Celestial Lion12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e1KAXT8j,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-22T16:41:23.757+0000) > > no, no, no, no, no, no. It is very difficult to rework an entire class and keep balance, we've seen this play out multiple times. juggernauts, mages, marksmen, tanks. it doesent work. rework 1 champion 1 item at a time. Agreed but they still need changes
: Which champions were negatively impacted by the conqueror removal?
> [{quoted}](name=JeaneGreene,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e1KAXT8j,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-22T16:35:06.892+0000) > > Which champions were negatively impacted by the conqueror removal? pretty much every single bruiser that was played top...To proc conq they now need to do a full rotation of spells which means that when conq is up they wont have any spells to trade rendering the rune kinda useless.
Rioter Comments
Jo0o (NA)
: Why do people need to be right or wrong in a game of League? Fixating I’m placing blame on certain teammates is poor sportsmanship and detrimental to teamwork, and there’s just no upside to it.
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sueXHvjp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-12T18:43:36.937+0000) > > Why do people need to be right or wrong in a game of League? Fixating I’m placing blame on certain teammates is poor sportsmanship and detrimental to teamwork, and there’s just no upside to it. I actualy said its better just to mute all and dont type, at least thats what has been working for me.
: Dodge, dodge, dodge, troll, dodge, remake, dodge,ff at 15, dodge, afk.....
Dude, league isnt a game of fun...If it were toplane would actualy be a lane. Its a dick sucking contest, the class that sucks riot's dick the most has the all the fun while others cry in a corner.
Washëd (NA)
: Congrats to Everyone Who Made It!
So what you saying is: - Never tell anyone they are wrong - Never teach anyone - Get Blamed for things you didnt do - Waist time Hmm...sounds a bit like stockholm syndrome to me but ok... The right thing to do is dont type and /muteall , just dont get into the toxic relation ship in the first place.
: Do you guys think Fiora could come back with the new Conqueror from next patch?
The new conq is for adc's like everything bruisers have ever had. Those little chipmunks will bitch until adcs have 3000 hp regen 6000 per second and one shot everthing and EVEN THEN they will bitch Vayne does too little dmg. So no, fiora will get worse cause now , with half the true dmg , tanks will be able to pound her like they did when the new runes came out and we bruisers lost fervor and got no replacement. #FuckAdcMains Love you the rest of you tho <3.
: If you could alter Assassins to remain a class, yet function healthily, what would you do/propose?
> [{quoted}](name=EinarUlfar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GAEWpPVZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-07-02T15:25:14.068+0000) > > If you could alter Assassins to remain a class, yet function healthily, what would you do/propose? You dont touch assasins. You make tanks tankier but take away most of their dmg and increase their cc. This way tanks are literal meatshields. In doing this you will need to "nerf" the jungle role: give the camps more dmg but also more gold and lower respawn times so junglers have to pick between farm or gank for their cc machine. Reduce the duration on heal/shield bitchs (soraka, nami, morgana and such) cc most of them dont need 2 seconds hard cc to engage, just makes them broken. This would probably break Bruisers and Juggernauts and I have no imediate Idea on how to fix them but at least in this way. 3-4 classes would be balanced in detriment of 2 others. [if this makes assasins too ez "to kill and forget" the enemy adc, increase their skill cap or shortten their burst window( as they did with fizz)]
: Guild Wars 2 is pretty fun too, and you can have 2 characters free. They don't level cap you like World of Warcraft does.
> [{quoted}](name=HalcyonDweller,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oO3dPYRG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-03T16:10:28.485+0000) > > Guild Wars 2 is pretty fun too, and you can have 2 characters free. They don&#x27;t level cap you like World of Warcraft does. Have to try it. thx :)
: Warframe is the way to go imo its f2p and any of the paid stuff you can earn by grinding it out
> [{quoted}](name=ArandomCanadain,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oO3dPYRG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-07-03T16:02:22.636+0000) > > Warframe is the way to go imo its f2p and any of the paid stuff you can earn by grinding it out I´ve tried it before and It wasnt really my thing, anyother suggestions?
Rioter Comments
: And that does nothing but make tanks and bruisers overpowered, and games become hour long slog fests of nothin happening. Game balance is never as simple as something like a universal damage decrease.
> [{quoted}](name= Król Wilk Sam,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EifXYnwy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-10T13:34:20.535+0000) > > And that does nothing but make tanks and bruisers overpowered, and games become hour long slog fests of nothin happening. > > Game balance is never as simple as something like a universal damage decrease. THATS THE ENTIRE POINT. Tanks should be "unkillable" cc monsters and bruisers should be a mix between an assasin and a tank(less tanky than a tank and lower dmg than an assasin). None of these 2 classes should be able to one shot but as the game stands they do.
: > [{quoted}](name=N1ghtOG,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wzj3qLMp,comment-id=0021,timestamp=2018-06-11T18:34:25.272+0000) > > In my opinion, everyone should have their base dmg cut by at least 25 and their scalling by 0.2. Finally slow this shit down. Towers need either 1500 more health or 100 more ad. Im tired of wet paper towers. Fully agree. Tower dives as early as lvl 3 are possible now lmfao because they do 0 dmg. Also at least I can spit on toilet paper and expect it to hold. Meanwhile, spitting on towers literally one shots them. And give botlane's tower some damn fortification, jesus.....
> [{quoted}](name=GØÐSLAYER,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wzj3qLMp,comment-id=00210000,timestamp=2018-06-11T18:39:06.655+0000) > > Fully agree. Tower dives as early as lvl 3 are possible now lmfao because they do 0 dmg. Also at least I can spit on toilet paper and expect it to hold. Meanwhile, spitting on towers literally one shots them. And give botlane&#x27;s tower some damn fortification, jesus..... Another opinion I have is that league should be a game of "rock paper scisors": tanks/bruisers counter assasins/burst mages; assasins/burst mages counter adcs/dps mages; and adcs/dps mages counter tanks/bruisers burst mages and assasins would be even. Bruisers would be they grey area. They would pretty much be neutral against everything if they were good enough.
Slogg (NA)
: This Game is in Such a Sorry State Right Now
In my opinion, everyone should have their base dmg cut by at least 25 and their scalling by 0.2. Finally slow this shit down. Towers need either 1500 more health or 100 more ad. Im tired of wet paper towers.
Nea104 (EUW)
: It's not about any good idea, it's about Riot intentionally leaving some champions in their current state :)
> [{quoted}](name=Nea104,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XcvEaW8P,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-09-13T18:30:56.674+0000) > > It&#x27;s not about any good idea, it&#x27;s about Riot intentionally leaving some champions in their current state :) Remove Veigar?!
: I mean, if you want him to build tank and on-hit that's one way to do it. The above will just shift his frustrations around tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=LostFr0st,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XcvEaW8P,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-12T20:29:52.414+0000) > > I mean, if you want him to build tank and on-hit that&#x27;s one way to do it. > > The above will just shift his frustrations around tbh. I actualy think tank/bruiser yass is less frustrating to be honest
Zed genius (EUNE)
: > (but every third dash yassuo does wont cost mana) why do streamers get special treatment?
> [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XcvEaW8P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-12T20:39:23.009+0000) > > why do streamers get special treatment? Mb
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCyborgDerp,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LmHsAsiV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T17:18:57.808+0000) > > Not alot you can do when you get ganked at lvl 2, specialy when you used your ward on blue due to your jungler´s request. Not that hard to doooo, when you have a device call the mousuuuuuu
> [{quoted}](name=Hexs Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LmHsAsiV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T17:47:58.874+0000) > > Not that hard to doooo, when you have a device call the mousuuuuuu Yeah I bet you are challenger and a 100% winrate.
: Is this post about yourself since you fed last game?
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LmHsAsiV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-10T17:13:53.468+0000) > > Is this post about yourself since you fed last game? Not alot you can do when you get ganked at lvl 2, specialy when you used your ward on blue due to your jungler´s request.
Rioter Comments
xevi (NA)
: DON'T GO CRAZY OVER BUFFS ON THE PBE
most of the changes are broken as hell. Have you seen the amumu changes?
AmazoX (EUW)
: You know it's not even funny how Annie E basic Ability is a better version of Jax ULT.
> [{quoted}](name=AmazoX,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GEOLfHb9,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-03-11T16:16:27.743+0000) > > You know it&#x27;s not even funny how Annie E basic Ability is a better version of Jax ULT. sure cause jax needs his ult active...
Ralanr (NA)
: Sion main. This is what I'm talking about. You immediately attack anyone that doesn't agree with you with emotion rather than logic. You don't care. You just want to rant.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2016-08-26T02:04:44.068+0000) > > Sion main. > > This is what I&#x27;m talking about. You immediately attack anyone that doesn&#x27;t agree with you with emotion rather than logic. > > You don&#x27;t care. You just want to rant. Im not attacking you at least on pourpose , just realy sick off every main shitting on me.
: >they dont I dont think one shotting at lvl 3 is balanced but im bronze. they don't one shot at level 3. > Thats fucking racist https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1MSNA_enUS645US645&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=the%20definition%20of%20racist
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:45:47.087+0000) > > they don&#x27;t one shot at level 3. > > https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&amp;rlz=1C1MSNA_enUS645US645&amp;ion=1&amp;espv=2&amp;ie=UTF-8#q=the%20definition%20of%20racist if elo was a race , plat and above would be racist.
: They are simple champs that have the unfun mechanic of "cc them or die" not much else to do about it
> [{quoted}](name=Mistress Shyvana,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:43:08.701+0000) > > They are simple champs that have the unfun mechanic of &quot;cc them or die&quot; > > not much else to do about it true which makes it kinda sad when you dont play champs with cc
: You have literally no valid points here. And both champs are fine. I got pubstomped by a Xin since I'm bad, and I'm not QQing all over boards about it, so shut the hell up.
> [{quoted}](name=AcidTheWarlock,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:36:58.577+0000) > > You have literally no valid points here. > > And both champs are fine. > > I got pubstomped by a Xin since I&#x27;m bad, and I&#x27;m not QQing all over boards about it, so shut the hell up. its not just one xin. its every single one... if they arent feedding they are going to win the game.
Ralanr (NA)
: I don't care that you're bronze, I care that your argument is complete shit.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:28:32.219+0000) > > I don&#x27;t care that you&#x27;re bronze, I care that your argument is complete shit. Let me guess xin or illaoi main?
nep2une (NA)
: I can't really tell you anything else at this point besides either just ban or hope they don't appear or hope your teammates will listen to you (if you learn how to play against them and can inform your team how).
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0004000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:23:13.220+0000) > > I can&#x27;t really tell you anything else at this point besides either just ban or hope they don&#x27;t appear or hope your teammates will listen to you (if you learn how to play against them and can inform your team how). Never been to bronze have you?
: >they dont I dont think one shotting at lvl 3 is balanced but im bronze. they don't one shot at level 3. > Thats fucking racist https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1MSNA_enUS645US645&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=the%20definition%20of%20racist
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:45:47.087+0000) > > they don&#x27;t one shot at level 3. > > https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&amp;rlz=1C1MSNA_enUS645US645&amp;ion=1&amp;espv=2&amp;ie=UTF-8#q=the%20definition%20of%20racist Never got one shoted by a ilaoi or a xin at lvl 3? Consider yourself lucky
nep2une (NA)
: Then either ban them or learn a method that doesn't need CC (there are multiple) or learn to play a champ with CC.
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:17:56.297+0000) > > Then either ban them or learn a method that doesn&#x27;t need CC (there are multiple) or learn to play a champ with CC. They arent fun.
nep2une (NA)
: ??? Why 6?
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=00040001000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:19:00.611+0000) > > ??? > Why 6? zed , yass , illaoi , xin , lb , akali , mf , blitz and there is more
Ralanr (NA)
: Yi has as much outplay as Xin.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:18:28.183+0000) > > Yi has as much outplay as Xin. no he doesnt xin is Q w right click 3 autos= congrats you one shoted someone.
nep2une (NA)
: Then ban them?
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:17:35.305+0000) > > Then ban them? when I can ban 6 champs I ll talk to you
nep2une (NA)
: Neither of them need a nerf. Stop crying and learn how to play against them.
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:15:18.446+0000) > > Neither of them need a nerf. > Stop crying and learn how to play against them. Look unlike you im not hight rated I cant tell my teammates tips they will not use them.
nep2une (NA)
: Neither of them need a nerf. Stop crying and learn how to play against them.
> [{quoted}](name=nep2une,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:15:18.446+0000) > > Neither of them need a nerf. > Stop crying and learn how to play against them. I know how to. I just cant do it my champion choices dont include cc.
: You mention "braindead" champions and then I look on your op.gg page to see that you're a Yi player...Not even going to say more {{summoner:4}}
> [{quoted}](name=Fuh Queue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:11:35.823+0000) > > You mention &quot;braindead&quot; champions and then I look on your op.gg page to see that you&#x27;re a Yi player...Not even going to say more {{summoner:4}} Yi got nerfed, yi has depth , he has outplay possibilities. But you wouldnt know you dont play yi because it will make you bad...
: Neither need nerfs. Take it form a silver 4, if you are below diamond/high plat you don't have much say on balance changes.
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:10:01.214+0000) > > Neither need nerfs. Take it form a silver 4, if you are below diamond/high plat you don&#x27;t have much say on balance changes. oh rly? they dont I dont think one shotting at lvl 3 is balanced but im bronze. Thats fucking racist
: Y'know who really needs a nerf though? Darius His Q ( The spinny axe thing that heals and chunks ) barely costs 40 mp WHAT THE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF----
> [{quoted}](name=Demon King Maou,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OEVQkELm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-08-26T01:05:42.091+0000) > > Y&#x27;know who really needs a nerf though? > Darius > His Q ( The spinny axe thing that heals and chunks ) barely costs 40 mp > WHAT THE FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF---- does darius one shot at lvl 3 ? NO
N1ghtOG (EUW)
: Xin and illaoi need a fucking nerf
btw FUCK U WANNABE LCS MEMBERS that are going to say because im bronze Im lot alowed to talk about the game.
Rioter Comments
: The story of how I found my main
The Story about my main was : I wanted to be a dick , but still use a champ whit decent mechanics and decision making . Then I played a {{champion:11}} game , in this game I dodge multiple skillshots and reduced the dmg of alot of tower shots and such ( there is the mechanics part), I then became realy fed and one shoted their adc with one basic attack ( yes you can do that [ static+ infinity edge+ botrk+bloodrazor+yoummos+herald buff]) and there is the dick part. Since then Ive come to love the nosense that is {{champion:11}} . For those intrested I run ghost and smite.
BeeCuz (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCyborgDerp,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:19:38.078+0000) > > ... to make yassuo less frustrating to play against. Please give me your opinion. My opinion is that you haven't considered playing Yasuo, or having Yasuo on your team.
> [{quoted}](name=BeeCuz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:46:53.957+0000) > > My opinion is that you haven&#x27;t considered playing Yasuo, or having Yasuo on your team. I have done both of those things , even tho he is a blast to play and a realy strong champion I think his protection ablity should be turned down a bit since he is played like an assasin and assasin should only be able to kill 1 or 2 enemy champions before getting blown up ,not survive for the whole duration with out popping a GA at least. The yassuos on bronze arent all that good but the good ones make the enemy team go on tilt because they cant kill him , even if they cc and focus him cause he will block/ shield most of the attacks. But please tell me more of what you think is wrong with my suggestion.
: I hate laning vs Yasui just as much as the next guy but please you basically just nerfed his kit to the ground. How is that "improving" ???
> [{quoted}](name=TheOvermind,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:34:03.879+0000) > > I hate laning vs Yasui just as much as the next guy but please you basically just nerfed his kit to the ground. How is that &quot;improving&quot; ??? I dont see any nerfs ( no damage down , no cooldown increases), no ability removed just tweeked a bit and with the addition of mana or any recourse ( probably energy would make more sense).
: I think you don't understand anything about Yasuo or the game itself.
> [{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:38:32.086+0000) > > I think you don&#x27;t understand anything about Yasuo or the game itself. Please explain me :D
: Yasuo is pretty balanced at the moment, no need to change him or nerf him.
> [{quoted}](name=ImTheRealGnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:30:51.481+0000) > > Yasuo is pretty balanced at the moment, no need to change him or nerf him. Sure , yorick is also balanced doesnt mean he is fun to play agaisnt at least thats my opinion.
: It was a suggestion. No need to be a dick. Regardless, it's not too bad of an idea. The shield could be balanced to be better than his current shield if he blocks a certain amount of projectiles, and worse if he blocks only one. The dashes aren't too bad of an idea, maybe lower the repeat target dash cooldown in response.
> [{quoted}](name=Azuk the Jungler,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:30:21.224+0000) > > It was a suggestion. No need to be a dick. > > Regardless, it&#x27;s not too bad of an idea. The shield could be balanced to be better than his current shield if he blocks a certain amount of projectiles, and worse if he blocks only one. > > The dashes aren&#x27;t too bad of an idea, maybe lower the repeat target dash cooldown in response. Thank you, I apreciate your opinion.
be pure (NA)
: So basically make yasou bad because you can can't play against it?
> [{quoted}](name=Bvked,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sgT2jBzq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-06-16T13:22:00.779+0000) > > So basically make yasou bad because you can can&#x27;t play against it? Just because it is diferent doesnt mean it is bad
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCyborgDerp,realm=EUW,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=63cRkG28,comment-id=000000010001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-15T22:40:59.103+0000) > > I usualy play shen jungle when I gank a yassuo and hit my taunt he will just dash over me and maybe flash for safety and there is nothing else I can do. I guess the solution might be playing Sion or Nautilus due to the heavy amout off cc , what do you think? If you get a taunt out, the damage from your midlaner/hard cc from your midlaner should easyly secure the kill or at least flash. Anyway it forces him out of lane and thats enough to make your midlaner snowball on him ( as I said he is easyly snowballed on if slightly behind) But sure, if you play nautilus you can do well too. I personally like playing shaco, doing red, and simply hardcamping mid against yasuos, they ragequit in a lot of games because they are edgy 12 year olds that want to permanently "outplay" their enemies and overextend a lot. Fact is, nearly every jungler in the game can gank yasuo with ease if the timing is well done.
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Broken Wings,realm=EUW,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=63cRkG28,comment-id=00000001000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-15T22:57:22.279+0000) > > You need to find your own champion that is working for you. Everything can work if you can gank effectivly. I am just sick of wards and shaco can jump over the wall to avoid wards. I am just lazy.Generally speaking, either high burst or point and click cc will help a lot against yasuo. ok thx alot !!! Are you a yassuo main or a jungle main?
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