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D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: no matter if he presses E or not, he lasts 0.75 sec in the air so, the cd is still 6 sec, but there are a 5.25 sec of window where he isn't untargeable now the true question, is why you lied and said that the base cd was 5 sec without cdr
Fizz is also untargetable while jumping and landing. These take around 0.25sec each so that is over 1 second untargetability spammable ability.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: I know this is the boards and this is going to get upvoted but how is he E on 5 sec / 0 sec cd? it has 10 sec base cd https://i.gyazo.com/b6ff128c205e242071591df2cb93a40b.png and with 40% cdr it goes to 6 sec don't even forget that it's impossible to get 40% cdr on fizz, the best you can get is 30% with protobelt/lichbane/zhonya ???
6 seconds on the tooltip. The cooldown starts as you press E not when it finishes. You need to take some numbers off the 6 seconds. If he quick E’s the cooldown will be longer compared to longer E usage.
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: Mordekaiser's passive is hard to proc? You have to hit the enemy 3 times with _anything_. Q, E, autos, they all count. That's actually not really hard to proc at all. > His Q [...] with a ridiculously long CD at all stages of the game. The CD when maxed is 4 seconds.... that's ridiculously long for you? With CDR, you can bring this even down to 2.4 seconds. Ridiculously long... really?
What CDR items? Rylais, Liandrys, Morrelos no CDR. What do you expect to me to build?
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Pika Fox (NA)
: ? If theyre hit theyre hit? The pull doesnt go off until the claw pulls back. Hitting them with the green pool does nothing.
The green pool should do something. Or make enemies pulled slowed by 40% like Darius E.
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: i mean its a delayed cage that you can auto twice to break, this should be incredibly simple being that as trundle you have an auto reset. or you can use (w i believe? whichever turns the ground to ice and gives the MS buff) to simply walk away. not to mention the fact you were losing but still rushed a trinity force and didnt have any outsourced armor from either runes or items. and even then you didnt have tabi until 19 minuets.
I try walking away from the cage. As soon as I’m almost out of the cage it pushes me back in again. I don’t take any armor runes because I think the HP runes are better with Overgrowth. I was falling far behind because he killed me 2 times by stacking all the shit on top of me so I cannot target anything.
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: So uhh, How is irelia tank? and how is she so good that ya'll are complainin? What are these.. builds? I mean i'm havin a fuckin hard ass time against tanks so plz elaborate.
Irelia builds the same items as Yorick, Darius, Illaoi. Irelia has similar HP pool as them champions, plus she has Q spam healing meanwhile Darius and Illaoi have to hit Q. They don't have damage reduction but Irelia does. They have no mobility spells but Irelia has infinite Q spam.
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: Life steal isn't as strong as you might think. Life steal is usually an ADC's only means of sustain as they're usually lacking in health, armor, mr, self-peel, and/or CC. And even then, they usually aren't building health so they rely completely on damage and life steal and kiting as well as allies acting as meat shields for them to stay alive. But the life steal only helps them so far as to keep their health topped off or maybe a bit more with bloodthirster. So, when an ADC becomes fed, they're usually nothing more than a ranged assassin with little to no mobility. Which means all you need is to present them with a face full of CC and a touch of damage at which point, no matter how fed they are, they're imploded on the spot.
ADCs outscale all champions because of their easy damage output but them being ranged. Why should hyperscalers be allowed so much safety?
Saezio (EUNE)
: So, you want crit and lifesteal out of this game. Why don't we remove ADCs in general?
You know what. If Rito Games removed ADCs from the game, that will make me very happy and I will love this fucking company.
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: Clearly if you are standing with jax at level 4 in his minion wave when he has e youre gonna die You are taking damage from him and his minions All of the 3 you mentioned are easy to beat him with Renek and kled can dodge his e stun and then murder him Panth just spams his spears and stuns whenever jax jumps onto him
I’m talking about Jax standing in my minion wave not his.
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D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Neriticc,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=O0m7iy4J,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-04-25T15:39:19.053+0000) > > Stands there at 4mins into the game right clicking down your entire health bar. Late game champion BTW. And what were you doing in the meantime while she tanked an entire wave of minions =? it's astonishing that threads like that get upvoted
Trying to fight back obviously.
: Actually lots of lanes make vayne's life very difficult and capitalize on her. You DO pick vayne for her anti tank, for her mobility and for her hyper scaling late game. But that doesn't mean that she can't get big value out of her passive and Q when she's ahead and doesn't have a strong all in, conditionally. Doesn't change that most adcs and most supports bully her for the first 20 minutes of the game, pull ahead and make vayne's life hard until she eventually overtakes them if the game doesn't end first. For some champs, like ashe, it's even easy to do if you are worse at the game than vayne!
Vayne can stand in the minion wave and auto attack me to death at 4 minutes into the game vs a Graves. Graves isn't even a tank but I am still taking 60 true damage from level 2 onwards because of the fucking stupid W.
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: Figured this would be your type of video lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPs67Fqj2GY&t=1s Also bonus stuff that was funny and sad at the same time because I was the Veigar xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqIHJ2jCtmE&t=0s
I watched that video. Hashinshin is funny guy.
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: Kayle before 16 is a minion, at 16 shes a 3 headed baron. no inbetween. i personally dont think they should just GIVE on hit true damage like that to champions for AOE ranged auto's.
Kayle comes online at level 6. It gives her more attack speed. Double on-hit damage. Free waveclear.
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Quepha (NA)
: Also it works with his E.
> [{quoted}](name=Quepha,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Px8OAQEk,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-19T06:54:50.778+0000) > > Also it works with his E. But it doesn’t though. Try it out in practise.
: > [{quoted}](name=Neriticc,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Px8OAQEk,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-18T14:16:19.262+0000) > > Why would it be an intentional feature? It’s an ability. I should be getting Sheen procs after I use it. Could be intentional due to how his basic attacks work. I mean, how would Sheen even work? Would each pellet apply the full Sheen damage to the targets they hit? Would the Sheen damage be divided between each pellet? Would it only apply Sheen if all pellets hit the same target? That's why I'm thinking it might be intentional.
Here’s the thing. Graves Q and W gives Sheen proc for your auto attack but Graves E doesn’t apply anything. It makes no sense.
: Is it a bug or an intentional feature though?
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Px8OAQEk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-18T13:06:58.582+0000) > > Is it a bug or an intentional feature though? Why would it be an intentional feature? It’s an ability. I should be getting Sheen procs after I use it.
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