: Nice post explaining the issues right now with League or at least season 9, since I believe balance changes have been the most toxic and discussed part in the game and is more clear with this balance changes with Riven with the suspicious Skin coming out at the same time that pisses off a lot of players. Although thats as issue that always I've seen in league (Coming for a Kindred player) the biggest mistake of Riot in this year is the waste of his resources in Eternals and TFT, ignoring TFT without any game mode events feel boring and pointless, I just played ARAM this days without any intention to be part of the events, and well I get rewards that meh, didn't care that much, I don't play because I want to kill 500 minions or kill 5 torrets, I want to missions of be the ascended and kill enemy champions, survive most difficult moments in Invasion, do an hexakill, and defeat Kayn Odyssey. Now thats how you play a Mission. {{item:3680}} {{item:3681}}
> [{quoted}](name=Toon Draw,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0EqcU7jr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-17T20:49:16.885+0000) > > Nice post explaining the issues right now with League or at least season 9, since I believe balance changes have been the most toxic and discussed part in the game and is more clear with this balance changes with Riven with the suspicious Skin coming out at the same time that pisses off a lot of players. > Although thats as issue that always I've seen in league (Coming for a Kindred player) the biggest mistake of Riot in this year is the waste of his resources in Eternals and TFT, ignoring TFT without any game mode events feel boring and pointless, I just played ARAM this days without any intention to be part of the events, and well I get rewards that meh, didn't care that much, I don't play because I want to kill 500 minions or kill 5 torrets, I want to missions of be the ascended and kill enemy champions, survive most difficult moments in Invasion, do an hexakill, and defeat Kayn Odyssey. > Now thats how you play a Mission. > {{item:3680}} {{item:3681}} Thanks for the support man!
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: I think RIOT's envisioned future might not be one that I share. If there is one thing that RIOT should do or not do to maintain some semblance of shared vision with me, then it would be: **To Stop Reworking Old Champion's Kits**. Just... stop. Tweak champions? Sure. Rework? I'm sick of it. I spend significant time researching the champions and skins I buy and there's a limited budget for it. It's a significant investment for me to purchase a particular champion or skin. If RIOT wants to tweak, nerf, buff, whatever, but if RIOT wants a new champion in the game then RIOT can release a new champion for the game. They don't need to delete the champion that I invested in. I posted in another thread about how RIOT needs to do something to tone down the AP Shyvana and someone posted back that RIOT was going to rework her. If I was upset about AP Shyvana, I was ten times as upset to hear someone say RIOT was planning a rework for her! Those are the times I question continued investment in the game. I think to myself: "Why should I invest anymore into this game?" And I know a lot of people out there are like: the Urgot rework was awesome! IMFAO, the game was better with old Urgot in it than it is with new Urgot, not because the old Urgot's kit was better than the new Urgot's kit (we all know the new Urgot's kit is "better"), but because in RIOT's zeal to rework champions they actively f* up the identities of those champions. And so, I question the vision RIOT has for this game and I wonder to myself, "How much of RIOT's vision for this game do I actually share?" That's the big question for me as LoL comes into its tenth year anniversary. We've had a decade to see what RIOT's vision for the game is. So... what is RIOT's vision for the game?
> [{quoted}](name=JRobin31,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0EqcU7jr,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-17T22:42:30.782+0000) > > I think RIOT's envisioned future might not be one that I share. > > If there is one thing that RIOT should do or not do to maintain some semblance of shared vision with me, then it would be: > > **To Stop Reworking Old Champion's Kits**. > > Just... stop. Tweak champions? Sure. Rework? I'm sick of it. > > I spend significant time researching the champions and skins I buy and there's a limited budget for it. It's a significant investment for me to purchase a particular champion or skin. If RIOT wants to tweak, nerf, buff, whatever, but if RIOT wants a new champion in the game then RIOT can release a new champion for the game. They don't need to delete the champion that I invested in. > > I posted in another thread about how RIOT needs to do something to tone down the AP Shyvana and someone posted back that RIOT was going to rework her. If I was upset about AP Shyvana, I was ten times as upset to hear someone say RIOT was planning a rework for her! Those are the times I question continued investment in the game. I think to myself: "Why should I invest anymore into this game?" > > And I know a lot of people out there are like: the Urgot rework was awesome! > IMFAO, the game was better with old Urgot in it than it is with new Urgot, not because the old Urgot's kit was better than the new Urgot's kit (we all know the new Urgot's kit is "better"), but because in RIOT's zeal to rework champions they actively f* up the identities of those champions. > > And so, I question the vision RIOT has for this game and I wonder to myself, "How much of RIOT's vision for this game do I actually share?" That's the big question for me as LoL comes into its tenth year anniversary. We've had a decade to see what RIOT's vision for the game is. So... what is RIOT's vision for the game? I think Riot wants the "old" champions to be as flashy as the new ones. I never understood the exact term of an "outdated kit". A champions kit is in most cases viable if you put some effort in understanding the champion. Ofcourse there are some exceptions here and there. For example, I feel like the Old Graves could have done well in todays meta. The kit todays Graves has... they could've potentially designed another champion for it. It is not like I dislike the rework in this case, but I feel like the old Graves wasn't "outdated". Same for Akali, Katarina, Nocturne, Taric, etc.
: Well that is why i like Necrit more than any other player, even if he honestly spends a lot of money in things that he complains about, he also reminder with every occasion the community to not spend money on them. On another note im sure most streamers and especially pros are forced by some contracts (league partenership probably on streamers) to support anything Riot wants
> [{quoted}](name=Garen is adopted,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0EqcU7jr,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-09-17T23:34:18.662+0000) > > Well that is why i like Necrit more than any other player, even if he honestly spends a lot of money in things that he complains about, he also reminder with every occasion the community to not spend money on them. > > On another note im sure most streamers and especially pros are forced by some contracts (league partenership probably on streamers) to support anything Riot wants Yeah I understand that. But they have the power to try to give feedback to Riot. If they won't support Riot's products it won't sell as much. If Riot then decides to undo those contracts they will lose a lot advertisement for their game. So it is no win-win situation for Riot at all. Some pressure from steamers and pro-players in a united setting might be a good idea.
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