: Right now, this is still unclear. There is certainly no commonly accepted language across ALL regions of Runeterra, let alone sign language. We default to writing everything in English, even though there's probably a remarkably varied spread of languages being spoken across various stories and such. It depends on the POV of the narration, really. A TV show which handles this really well is 'Vikings'. Even though the whole production defaults to modern English (with some accents!) you can assume when the Viking characters are speaking to each other, it's meant to be in an old Nordic language. When English characters are speaking to each other, it's in one of the old English dialects... and the French guys, and so on. BUUUUUT when they try to speak to each other, the language barrier slams down HARD, and the scene is presented from the POV of whichever characters we're following at the time - some of them speak several languages, which means they can move in and out of conversations. If we're making Runeterra a more authentic and realistic place to tell stories and play games, a major thing to consider is how the people in that world communicate. I am from the UK, and I can speak a little bit of French and German... because geographically they are pretty close by. But I can't speak Italian, Spanish, Hungarian, Polish, etc etc. I am utterly clueless with Korean, Mandarin, Japanese, etc etc. Soooooo... can someone from Ionia like Sona understand whatever language they use in Demacia? Probably, because she lives there. But can she understand someone from Shurima, or Targon, or Ixtal, or even the Freljord? That's unclear. Also, can someone from modern Shurima understand the ancient languages of their homeland? All good fodder for future storytelling! :-)
Man, i read that post SO carefully, looking for slightest (new) clue about Sona... i was disappointed...! and the journey continues! :D
: > [{quoted}](name=nosafterburn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=eJOg74n5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-13T14:55:21.438+0000) > > okay. > 1. Your wrong. Sona doesn't speak language. She "speaks" music, and > 2. Music is a universal language. > > I do understand how a writer wouldn't get this though so no worries. Glad to help. lmfao imagine telling a writer for riot they're wrong about the lore. you're fucking funny dude.
Actually they can do that, if the writer writes something then tell you another thing, i'm not saying this is the case here but it is possible. sometimes writers contradict themselves in what they explain compared to what they actually write.
: So, after poking around, Sona has made two other small appearances. She appears in the Ryze cinematic, helping him fight off some guys. As it's just a cinematic with no accompanying text, though, it doesn't actually tell us much of anything about her _(besides the fact that she can fight, but her minimal lore already made that clear anyway)_. Then one of Ezreal's stories mentions that she holds recitals. Which also doesn't exactly tell us much of anything about her beyond the fact that she's a musician, which we also already knew. Hell, her skins have more lore than her canon self.
you mentioned, cinematic with no accompanying text. I don't know if anyone can still see this image on Runeterra's map but it was the only text about Sona that came with the video. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/303972910098546698/472182663814578178/unknown.png
: Also, on an unrelated note, I read Sona's old League Judgment. It seemed to paint her as sad about her place in the world, and wanting to be noticed. This clearly isn't the case anymore, obviously, since the new blurb calls her a "foremost virtuoso", implying a good deal of renown on her part. Which puts us back at square one of knowing absolutely nothing about her.
Her fame was confirmed even back then, check out her Journal of justice entries, although all of it is retconed now. Volume 1 , issues [number 4](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/it/wiki/The_Journal_of_Justice:_Volume_1,_Issue_04) and [number 15](https://lol.gamepedia.com/The_Journal_of_Justice/Volume_1,_Issue_15). if you want to take a look at them.
: Does anyone on the lore team have any ideas for Sona, at all?
I have spent many months tilting at that particular windmill and it was going nowhere! The answer i recieved when i asked about it was "it's hard to tell the future" :D
: Odd Lore Question: Do Champions(or just Runeterrans in general) wear underwear?
Forgive me for straying a bit from the point of this topic but, I'm personally not concerned about whether they do wear it or not, as much as i wonder what kind they could wear. i often find myself looking up some strange stuff about history. like how their underwears were designed? what type of material they used? how often they bath? how would they do it? would they take care of their teeth? what would they use to brush them? i wonder this sort of thing about all over the world in different times of history. so i end up wondering the same stuff about Fantasy worlds as well.
: [Spoilers] Lux: Issue Nr. 2 - Feedback, Discussion and Questions
> What would happen if Lux refused? Fiora's story somewhat explains this. although Fiora's method of rejection called for such retaliation and punishment. so i guess it depends on how she rejects it as well.
Krofinn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nylisa,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rNWv0jhQ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-08T21:25:24.904+0000) > > You know whats weird? there are a lot of characters that people like and call/find likable, but i hate them. but then there is this girl, almost anyone i ran to these past few days says she is a bitch but then i like her..! Ah, you like the tsundere chicks.
i had to google Tsundere to understand it :S but considering my number one favorite girl is Sona, i am not so sure about that. Although Sona could be one too for all we know <.<
: Quiyana might be the least likable character I've ever read about
You know whats weird? there are a lot of characters that people like and call/find likable, but i hate them. but then there is this girl, almost anyone i ran to these past few days says she is a bitch but then i like her..!
Reav3 (NA)
: Generally we release more content during summer because we have much higher engagement during that time since it's summer vacation for a lot of our players.
is it safe to say we can expect (little) more Lore releases as well? or just for gameplay parts of the game?
: Comic suggestion
I get how you feel i was constantly listening to Freljord theme song( Lissandra/howling abyss theme) when i was reading Warmother! i support this movement!
: Lux Comic Preview
Warmother comic set the bar so high, this has to be really good to satisfy me! Odin made me proud!
: I spy a fellow Three Kingdoms fan. Tell me you're hyped about Total War: Three Kingdoms.
Question is...who and where is Wang Yi and Zhao Ang in all of this >.>
: b-b-b-but.... my Sona {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
She is the only one left! hang in there! :(
: Just you wait...
That's what i've been doing for the past 4-5 years! (since JoJ) D: but i trust and have faith in you guys, so im gonna sit here quietly and wait.
: > [{quoted}](name=Nylisa,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=9o3F3swH,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-03-04T18:24:11.926+0000) > > Hey My Fizz no ult. you know what interest me the most? how did you gather this information? the process that you worked through in order to gather this around and your research process. i'm also interested in your sources if you can share any. > > i'm working on worldbuilding myself so i'm more intrigued by the methods that goes into such worldbuilding. :) i feel like by doing this you backtracked Riot's work and found that process of work and research. Which process you mean? About what section? If I do find the work process of Riot about the constructed languages in Ionia, I would not have made this Ionian Languages cause it will conflict with the official one. As for the creation, I personally know more than 3 languages, completely or partially, and I know some linguistic knowleage. So{{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Hey thanks for the reply, that clear some things up. by process i mean Syllables and Consonants or Pronunciation. Easier way of asking this might be: if you wanna create a language for Ionia where would you start and how do you start it. language of a country can tell a lot of story about it's past, present and it's future. many might not realize how much language effect their culture and how much it speaks for their history. that's why i think making a language for a fictional universe is a big deal. knowing multiple languages sure is fun. it's a vast horizon.
: Ionian Language (Constructed Scripts)
Hey My Fizz no ult. you know what interest me the most? how did you gather this information? the process that you worked through in order to gather this around and your research process. i'm also interested in your sources if you can share any. i'm working on worldbuilding myself so i'm more intrigued by the methods that goes into such worldbuilding. :) i feel like by doing this you backtracked Riot's work and found that process of work and research.
: This was intentional. My thought was partially that in this part of the story (and possibly when they were kids) Sejuani was taking care of Ashe. Your insight was correct, I am showing Sej as the tougher and more experienced of the two girls. And this was a clear way to indicated that she cared about Ashe-- but was dealing with the situation. Just from my own life I noticed the person with the rougher background/experiences tends to take charge when the situation gets f-up... (Also I think Ashe is in grief and is weak from hunger and well... everything-- and this let us see her "recovering" because of these friendship)
> Your insight was correct That! that is why i love Sejauni! the way you portrait her! i already liked her from before but now much more! i can't wait for the 4th issue then i will make a bigass post about everything i noticed and loved in the comics/stories of Freljord to thank you personally! i was really afraid about how Freljord is going to turn out. if i will be disappointed or sad but so far, none of that!
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nylisa,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dkqamrhA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-20T19:58:11.291+0000) > > number 4 is gonna be one hell of a story! all roads lead to that point! whatever happened, its gonna be the decisive point of Ashe vs Sejauni story! it's gonna finally tell us if there is any chance for peace between them or not. Im excited for nr.4! Btw are you on our discord? if youre not join here :http://discord.gg/wxRnKet
Thank you but we talked to each other like 5 times on that server! so yes i'm around :D
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Ashe: Warmother Comic Nr. 3 Feedback and Character Discussion; CONTAINS SPOILERS!
number 4 is gonna be one hell of a story! all roads lead to that point! whatever happened, its gonna be the decisive point of Ashe vs Sejauni story! it's gonna finally tell us if there is any chance for peace between them or not.
: In the freljord they don’t seperate step fathers from fathers.
i understand that but i'm not wondering about the differences or if they separate it or not. In Sejuani bio we see that she was a children of political marriage and her mother left to pursue another man. most people suspect that man was Udry but i'm skeptical about it.
: To me this is why Udyr is heroic. He turned away from the only mental peace he’s had, and looked a horrific monster in the eyes and said... “f u. I dont know how, but i refuse to lose, no matter what, so you will not take my daughter and i will find a way.”
My daughter, as in sworn father? or biological father? i'm pretty sure i know the answer. just asking to make sure.
: Thank you so much. Glad you liked it! It's funny, each of the projects I do I tend to put in different mental buckets based on various musical tastes. I literally think, this character to should appeal to people who like "this or that genre of music." Rakan, Kled, Zoe, Aatrox, and Volibear each relate to different types of music. It's possible Volibear is the most "metal" thing I've ever written-- even more than Aatrox's short story.
i only have one tiny complaint Odin, which i'm not blaming you for it. It's the amount of phrases and definitions one must follow and look up in order to fully understand the story. sure from perspective of someone who doesn't know much about Runeterra it is pretty straight forward. but when someone is interested to look deeper and doesn't read past certain words it can be tedious. i know this because i tried getting some friends into the lore. Warmother,spirit walkers,lost ones, etc. i think what Universe is missing is a specific Encyclopedia because if people do not search the board or reddit or get those extra pages from comic there is no way of knowing this sort of information. besides not all stories have that glossary page! i know sometimes this information is inside another story which is a good thing, it makes people follow the story. its like marketing for lore but that information can't be always found.
: Holy hell Volibear is terrifying.
I could understand how Sejuani felt when facing him! must be a sight to behold! i feel bad for those poor Avarosans....heheeeee!
: "Riot is becoming too disney" Riot: "Okay, have this gruesome Freljord story. :) "
As an old fan of these 3 characters i have no complaints.Sejuani is clever, fearsome, brutal yet cares for her people! Udyr is full of mysteries and and one of the most interesting beings in Freljord. and Voli is... oh man i could feel my heartbeat rising when he showed up! If i only knew Odin was cooking up this masterpiece all along, i would never lose my patience for Sejuani's lore update! It was captivating, intense and brutal! i liked the comics but they had nothing on this (personal opinion ofc). Odin deserves high praises! i have to say the way Sejuani Udyr and Voli were portrayed in this story, it made waiting all these years worth it! so much information packed into one story!
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nylisa,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZKKnb3Qf,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T04:40:45.335+0000) > > What leads me to believe there is a possibility of some sort of agreement is the last line of her bio. she believes she was the one betrayed, that suggests she might not know the full story. if she is reasonable enough she might see past that drama. > > And yes with Sejuani Noxus is gonna have a tough time advancing in Freljord if at all. it also gives Ashe more reason to not fight with Sejuani! To me Sejuani looks very stubborn, but i also think that Sej doesnt know the entire ttruth about Grena and her insanity, so if she one day finds out, maybe she can get along with Ashe! And yes in fact if they find a way together, maybe ashe can even help sejuani and not fight her
exactly, i can't seem them as good friends or something. but i can see them at least getting along and not killing each other on sight.
: Is Udyr the man who Kalkia left the Winter's Claw for?
i had the same feeling about this as well! Udyr being Sejuani's stepfather would explain a lot :D
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Nylisa,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZKKnb3Qf,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-05T21:00:26.280+0000) > > I like Sejuani even more now, she is more in depth and her motivations leave possibilities to somehow make some kind of agreement with Ashe, if not peace. Well sejuani is undoubtedly a tough cookie but maaaaaaybe she could still find it in her heart to do something with Ashe! I love the part where she is actually focused on fighting Noxus
What leads me to believe there is a possibility of some sort of agreement is the last line of her bio. she believes she was the one betrayed, that suggests she might not know the full story. if she is reasonable enough she might see past that drama. And yes with Sejuani Noxus is gonna have a tough time advancing in Freljord if at all. it also gives Ashe more reason to not fight with Sejuani!
: Riven appreciation post
i love how her figure looks more athletics as well!
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Sejuani Update!
I like Sejuani even more now, she is more in depth and her motivations leave possibilities to somehow make some kind of agreement with Ashe, if not peace.
: The long awaited Sylas login theme
Gotta love the Demacian vibes in it! they nailed it...as usual! i wonder who is the composer is for this one.
Pale Mask (EUW)
: On the other hand, they could easily write more Ionian lore, or showcase Ionian characters in short stories from other factions. No Ionian champions/VGUs ≠ no Ionia-related content.
yeah stories are still possible. but i take it there are not many champions left in Ionia that does not have a short story or their bios are outdated. although it wont stop them from releasing more of it, for some popular champions, it should shorten the list for Ionia regardless.
: The Ionia bias is real.
well if it makes you feel any better, Reav3 confirmed there will be no more new Ionian champions or VGUs in 2019. so we will be seeing a lot less of Ionia this year.
: Awaken cinematic.
am i the only one who look for Champions skills and how they use it every time a video a like this come out? *wait was that his Q?* *oh that was her ultimate right*? :D I appreciate Riot featuring champions that are not often in videos! seeing Kennen all of a sudden brought a HUGE smile on my face!
: 1. Yes. And yes, though this is usually settled between the candidates. Another woman from the tribe will usually step forward. Often as it is blood relatives, this is settled peacefully or with a non-lethal duel. Unhappy members of the tribe might offer themselves to another tribe as kin or thralls. But remember that ultimately magically gifted warriors are so much more powerful than a normal people, and the freljord is so dangerous that everyone wants to live under the protection of people with magic. So really your mostly looking for who will keep you and your children safe. Also people have noted that magical ability is usually passed from mother to child. --so female magical warriors are a better long term investment for your children's and grandchildren's survival. 2. It's not uncommon for a male to lead a tribe if they lack any female magical warriors-- but it's considered a tenuous position, and often a short term solution. Because you can't be sure he will have magical children. If the male leader is strong (and magical) he will usually look for a strong warmother, or skarthane to pledge his allegiance too-- thus the tribe he is in will become a clan under a larger tribe.
Thank you. i might return with more in depth questions :D
: Q1. Good questions... and I'm not sure Ashe knows at this point. Q2. Dark ice has slightly different from properties and enhances abilities somewhat differently than true ice. --though it is a derivative.
Hello Odin, nice work on the Comic it was a great read! since a warmother died in this issue, i had some questions about that! if a Warmother dies and has no daughters or sisters (adopted or otherwise) how would the tribe proceed? 1- can a woman from the tribe steps forward for it? if yes,can people reject her? is there any process she has to go through in order to be the next Warmother, aside from defeating any challengers? 2- if Warmother, has a son and they *marry* or her Bloodsworn (in case they survived) for the sake of choosing that woman as next Warmother is that possible? or all status of the current Warmother family ceases as soon as she dies? i'm asking this, in case of warmother's sudden death and not having anyone to replace her. I appreciate any answers and understand if you cant provide any. thank you :)
: Ashe: Warmother... The music playlist.
When you already have, over half of those on your playlist! Didn't think we have similar taste!
: > [{quoted}](name=Percentages,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=kaNTuEnj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-10T07:46:44.155+0000) > > <snip> I care. Sejuani is in the top 5 greatest League waifus. Period. Literally shaking n crying rn can't believe Rito would do this.
>Sejuani is in the top 5 greatest League waifus. Period. *gasp* glad to see i'm not the only one who thinks so!!!
QMighty (NA)
: Sona lore hype
*Screams in Etwahl tones* i don't even know what that means but it just feels right!
SickAnto (EUW)
: I'm disappointed by Ashe Lore...
Maalcrom could still come back and stir some drama/feelings. maybe even cause some trouble for Ashe and her marriage! it's not impossible.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: So Tryndamere wasnt gifted anything from aatrox right? Where did that rage come from tho? I guess aatrox killing his people made him so angry to withstand death and seek vengeance... All that while Ashe is out there scamming her tribe...
The only thing that really caught my interest in that story is her childhood friendship with Sejuani! looking forward to see that story! you can see there are too many things that can go wrong for Ashe and its not as flawless as it use to be. a husband with a strange and most likely a wrecking truth, political feuds, Growing violent horde of Winter Claw and her own doubts! not to mention building her reputation on a myth!
EdgeLady (NA)
: 2018 Skin Lore Tournament - January 2nd: The Lure vs Interview: Inside K/DA
My Apologies to all K/DA fans. but Lure was just too good compared to that interview so there goes my vote!
: What exactly is the boy's power? I know he can see auras, but he can channel someone else's magic?
Image of a lightning rod comes to mind. but he absorbs magic and then discharge.question is how much capacity does he have before he...explodes. just speculation though.
: Yeah I love those small things like an obsession with certain food, they can really bring a character to life. Obviously, if you take it too far, you get things like **Four**.
yes i completely agree. at least she has a good taste.
SickAnto (EUW)
: >Yes... there is a lot of Sejuani mentality in Ashe's mother... nicely spotted. That will be important later. This is what Odin said in the principal post of Ashe comic.
oh i missed that part! that's awesome thank you.
: Riot, Thank you for the new Soraka Lore & Short Story
You forgot Tea! first Cinnamon Rolls now Tea! if she is not eating Cinnamon rolls **with** Tea in her next story update i'm gonna be mad!
: Probs an unpopular opinion but almost all female champs look the same facially so I feel that point is moot.
Atgo is right i did not mean physical appearance. but ideologies and mentality. sorry if i did not make it clear.
32luke (NA)
: "Helnr's daughter has as much a claim to leadership as I..."
This, plus how Ashe's mother resembles Sejuani is gonna be important later down the line i'm sure!
: Are there plans for Soraka's lore anytime soon?
WHY DIDNT YOU ASK SOONER?! pls ask for Sona lore too pleeeeease!
: To right a wrong penance must **always** be paid. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
Mama Soraka has spoken! respect!!!
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