: > [{quoted}](name=HommeGoujon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AkNiuXru,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-23T20:39:23.426+0000) > > I'll spell it out for you then. I don't agree with you because I think it will just encourage people to surrender as soon as the first challenge arises. first blood after an invade? "Let's just surrender please, don't hold me hostage until 10 minutes in this game and report that feeder." etc. I think the problem is not the fact that you have to play 20 mins to surrender but rather that people give up too easily (as you said). What frustrates me is people asking to FF15 when we've been playing only for 5 mins because I know that person will just wait and do nothing until the vote starts. There's even people trying to surrender when they're actually ahead... it almost makes my day when I see them. Almost. "What's that? Their top just got first blood from a gank? Let's surrender, better luck next game. Doesn't matter that our mid is about to take first tower, our bot is ahead by 50 cs, and our jungler cleared both jungles including scuttles: this game is surely lost, no point playing any longer."
> [{quoted}](name=Disulfiram,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AkNiuXru,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-25T22:23:08.599+0000) > > There's even people trying to surrender when they're actually ahead... it almost makes my day when I see them. Almost. > "What's that? Their top just got first blood from a gank? Let's surrender, better luck next game. Doesn't matter that our mid is about to take first tower, our bot is ahead by 50 cs, and our jungler cleared both jungles including scuttles: this game is surely lost, no point playing any longer." I was just in a game like this, 10 - 30 total skills in their favour. Game was lost around 12, yet it was extended to 35. This isn't fun, and a game is primarily played for fun.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ohh Fish,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AkNiuXru,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-04-23T17:08:48.103+0000) > > I can see your sarcasm. If you have something actually constructive to add, please do so. > > As it stands now this systen promotes frustration and soft afk behaviour. I don't know what your experience has been, but this has been mine. I'll spell it out for you then. I don't agree with you because I think it will just encourage people to surrender as soon as the first challenge arises. first blood after an invade? "Let's just surrender please, don't hold me hostage until 10 minutes in this game and report that feeder." etc. I think the problem is not the fact that you have to play 20 mins to surrender but rather that people give up too easily (as you said). What frustrates me is people asking to FF15 when we've been playing only for 5 mins because I know that person will just wait and do nothing until the vote starts.
> [{quoted}](name=HommeGoujon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AkNiuXru,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-23T20:39:23.426+0000) > > I'll spell it out for you then. I don't agree with you because I think it will just encourage people to surrender as soon as the first challenge arises. first blood after an invade? "Let's just surrender please, don't hold me hostage until 10 minutes in this game and report that feeder." etc. I think the problem is not the fact that you have to play 20 mins to surrender but rather that people give up too easily (as you said). What frustrates me is people asking to FF15 when we've been playing only for 5 mins because I know that person will just wait and do nothing until the vote starts. So, you disagree with one aspect. Why not meet people in a middle ground by implementing a reset at 20 and making a 3/2 trigger the surrender? Nobody should be forced to play a game the majority doesn't want to play. If people decide they will give up they will regardless of how long you extend the game for. Even if you're doing well, it takes 1 person to give up to destroy your experience. As a PhD student with time for maybe 1-2 games a day I really can't afford that. Game feels like it's designed to finish fast and be snowbally with the amount of damage certain champions deal anyway. At least give the frustration a way out. > [{quoted}](name=Thekingofsocks,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AkNiuXru,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-24T12:05:29.955+0000) > > I dont agree with the surrender option at 10 minutes due to the amount of games where my team decides to give up after losing one lane and the losing laner says "gg" that kinda shit tilts me to oblivion just learn to play the game and try to stop feeding and we can win. Instead i feel at 15 minutes it should take 4 votes and not 5 votes to surrender. This is also fine.
: MAke the surrender vote available after first blood, or even better, from the beginning of the game because everybody knows that their team is better than ours and we don't have a chance. Better surrender now to not waste any time. Quick! let me surrender so that I can go to the next game and surrender again! PLEASE!!
> [{quoted}](name=HommeGoujon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AkNiuXru,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-23T13:57:11.944+0000) > > MAke the surrender vote available after first blood, or even better, from the beginning of the game because everybody knows that their team is better than ours and we don't have a chance. Better surrender now to not waste any time. Quick! let me surrender so that I can go to the next game and surrender again! PLEASE!! I can see your sarcasm. If you have something actually constructive to add, please do so. As it stands now this systen promotes frustration and soft afk behaviour. I don't know what your experience has been, but this has been mine.
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: My account is worth thousands and I have never felt threatened about loosing it.
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=V6GlEqZT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-08T12:38:10.199+0000) > > My account is worth thousands and I have never felt threatened about loosing it. Man, I don't think virtual items carry any sort of value irl, but good for those thousands you've got. Nifty in case you need mortgage for an emergency loan
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