Seanpasu (NA)
: New Riot Launcher: Total Flop
Agreed. I would prefere login-fields embedded in Runeterra area, telling me "Traveller, you are going to enter THIS!" like any of the featured areas here: So it looks actually more like login Origin, isn´t it?
: > [{quoted}](name=HungryAngry2SPP,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rz063Wgf,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-10-04T18:17:14.279+0000) > > Yeah maybe in bronze/normals. > > Not using pings is refusing to communicate with the team. Wrong. You don’t have to communicate at all in a game if you don’t want to.
Typing/pinging SS is the worst you can do ingame, just overrated. Maybe. Perhaps not.
Lapis (OCE)
: What's more fun to you? Playing lots of champs, or just one?
I like to play others in ARAM or vs bots or when my champ is banned and I can´t or dont want to dodge. But obviously I stick to one champ in rift. If you would ask "why" it would be hard for me to answer.
Kai Guy (NA)
: Can supports climb lower Elo S9? Time to test it.
I guess with Blitzcrank it should be possible. You have to be good with him, but (if well played) he can give a lead so that even a bad adc can win a match. He also has according to a positive winrate in bronze. Same for Rakan. Even it needs more skill to play him properly. A well played Rakan is a beast.
: A Riot employee on twitter basically admitted that they have no plans for a Zyra skin this year
: I guess I am ignorant :( What did it lead to?
> [{quoted}](name=Samuel Murphy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3Vgi0jgN,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-06T03:13:59.503+0000) > > I guess I am ignorant :( > > What did it lead to? Money and reputation - what else. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Jaspers (EUW)
: No, it's a game. I don't really consider Darts or Snooker sports either (they are pub games). You can be extremely skilled at them and some governments might class the players as 'athletes' for tax purposes however part of the definition of a sport is "activity involving physical exertion" and I don't think they qualify for that bit, many video games certainly don't. Motorsports are in a weird place in this however.
> [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3Vgi0jgN,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-09-06T09:01:36.028+0000) > Motorsports are in a weird place in this however. Shooting sports and Archery also and they are olympic.
: Do you consider League of legends to be a sport?
Seen from the type it could be considered to fit into the same category as **shooting sports**: > "Shooting sports is a collective group of competitive and recreational sporting activities involving proficiency tests of accuracy, precision and speed in shooting — the art of using various types of ranged weapons.... > Where "weapons" could be changed into champions [" of using various types of ranged champions...."]. Or another example mentioned for predominantely coordination sport is ** billard** or another example is **darts**: You can call "soapbox racing" a sport or not. It´s not, but in the end any formula-racing is called "sport": Even neither olympic or any real world series. So - we can _technically_ call _e-sport_ to be a "sport" as well. That is just a matter of doing so or not. But yes, League is company-based and in addition it is questionable for me if changing rules all the time is really how "sports" work or should work [even in motorsports rules changes from year to year too]. In the end for me personally League is more "sport" then any motorsport, it´s more competitive and less luck/company-dependent as you can´t drive a high-tuned op-Ferrari. So - who "does" motorsport [the humans or the ones tuning cars?]? The popularity I would consider much higher then for Darts. It could be _ended_ or in other terms it will most likely not be played in 40 years from now. This is for me the reason why I am a bit sceptic about it. But if we would accept _e-sports_ as a whole only short term running type of _sports_ - why not. ;)
godyoonmin (EUNE)
: riot wtf?
Yeah - strange. A Jax nerf would be nice! sORRY---- IST A MUST HAVE!
: Ranked is set up for failure.
Can´t say the same. Not for promos. But in my experience the 3 to 5 matches directly after the promos are broken. Made the point last year after rushing through silver. Don´t know why but I´d won nearly every match between Silver3 and Gold5 except the 2 up to 5 after every promo. Similar now at my NA-account. Even only the Gold promo done now and gold elo there is really.... _strange_ anyway ^^. No reason why I should go 8w2l before, 3-1 in promo; whole matches gold, still 29LP per win, and then lose 4 in a row with mates (especially adc´s) showing performances which are are pretty questionable. I mean this can happen randomly once after a promo. But I´d made the point last year in a forum for 4 matchup-after-promo in a row within few weeks. And it is not dependend on elo. Even I don´t know how the system could be tuned such selective (and why it should).
Morganja (NA)
: A New Skin For Zyra pleaseee
Yes!♥♥♥ {{sticker:sg-jinx}}
: Let’s talk about the Zyra shaped elephant in the room...
Yes, that´s it. Feeling... *hrm*.... _unhappy_.
: Riot should just delete Zyra since they don't care.
Would like - and if not at least chroma?
Pyrosan (NA)
: You're able to delete one champion from the game, who goes?
Nah. Noone. They are all cool. {{sticker:poppy-wink}}
abscondita (EUNE)
: Omg really ??? Is there mmr in normals too?what is the point of trying new champions then??This is obviously the reason why omg...I am practicing jg this week for the first time and I sucked but now I have improved and..Yeah...I hate this.So I have to make 20 good games in normal to fix it?
Rioter Comments
: Zyra needs a new skin!
Sure she needs! Even I´d prefere the 4 season skin...... {{sticker:sg-lux}} Come on Riot. As a gift for reaching let´s say 2.5 million mastery or something like that..... [just baiting you riot ^^]
: In your opinion which role has the biggest effect on the outcome of the game?
Truli91 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HsGYKkHE,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-10-26T20:09:58.218+0000) > > No, I'm saying you seem full of shit. Your claims of being paired against higher-ranking players are refuted by your own match history, which suggests that you're possibly trolling the forums or are simply assuming a higher rank in your opponents to excuse your own losses and failures. > > If you have match history somewhere that DOES show your Bronze 1 self getting unfairly paired against high-ranking players, by all means, share it. look at my matched history. i was matched agaisnt gold and silver. its not fucking fair.
5050BS (NA)
: Im in S2 and commonly have enemy teams that are all G4. its like WTF THEN WHY AM I NOT G4?!
The difference in MMR and skill between G4 and S2 is not very high, so there is a luck-factor. I guess between 2 ranks above and 2 ranks below everyones "average rank" is possible to oscillate. An average S2 player can get G4 or actually be in S4. imho
Myrmiron (EUW)
: Holy crap EUW almost halfed in the past 2 years? That's not good.
Especially a comparison with Season7 is misleading as the season startet December 6th, 2016 compared to January 24th, 2019 (when Season 9 started) which is 6 weeks later. So if comparing these 2 you would have to compare today´s number (1,668 million) with a number in April 2017, which noone can tell us about imho. We can compare to May4th2016 which give us 2,32 million. The drop would still be high by 1/4. But as we can see in TE´s table: 2016: 2.177.650 2018: 1.398.030 Diff: 779.620 Actually (may2019 to may2016) 2,32-1,67= 0,65million difference Less difference. Let´s have a look in some weeks. We´ll see.
kurdt911 (EUW)
: Ranked playerbase... has down a lot?
At least interesting. I did some statistic [last year]( and yes, the ranked data seem to be remarkable lower. Buit it´s a bit more complex and not that easy to read. The first we don´t exactly know is the date in which the reset [counting ranked] was this year. Normally it´s at the beginning of the season. But maybe - for any reason - this point maybe happened one or the other week later. Second, it´s not enough to have a random day in "april" to compare. For EUW there are between 2000 and 5000 ranked players each day so that it makes a difference if you copmpare 5th of april with 20th of april. Anyway. Ranked OP.GG playerbase NA 12.5.2015 1,252 mil 11.5.2018 1,269 mil 17.5.2019 1,015 mil [EUW 1,667] and BR 17.5.2018 1,002 mil 17.5.2019 744 mil i mention Brasil here because imho there is still a little boom going on. Alexa-ranking for both (US and Brasil) is up compared to may last year (US ~ #415->#278) which seems not really plausible for a lower ranked base. Same for another indicator (mentioned in posting last year), the "average viewers" at twitch via [sullygnome]( Average viewers for League last year there was 113k (last 365d) and 114k for 180 days (including beginning season). The numbers are up to 120k (365d), 126k (180d) and 138k (90d) respectively. And third the same for the gametrics (gaming-cafes) rank in Korea where League skyrocked from 22% (3/2018) and 27% (7/2018) to [36% as for April 2019]( and 41% for last week. Even the decline maybe not impossible but not really plausible if we look at other data. So what can we do here to come to a conclusion? We have to wait. We can wait some days or another week and see which amount of ranked players ad on average per day. This is a more precise measure of what is actually going on as the other data give us mixed results. Just my personal view: I don´t like the new system down to Iron. Maybe the players there give up and have less fun with the game if they are split up. It may be that it is better for the *game* having 80k BronzeV, some of them better then the others, then the same amound spread over 5 tiers. Maybe, maybe not. So - League is hopefully not dying. Next aim is waiting. Just reached 2 million maystery on Zyra. Really in need for some more points going top 70 MP and further on. cu in rift! Edit: What came in my mind is a possible lack of inflow by chinese players. The data for China are weird/unclear. Maybe the numbers there are really down (PUBG is coming up there). Don´t know if this affects other numbers as well because the playerbase of chinese players was/is really, really huge. [20% of ranked players in NA were chinese last years? Maybe? Idk... just an idea.]
RR8Rosie (NA)
: The last champ you played with is now stuck with you during an apocalypse, how long do you survive?
{{champion:143}} _**I AM **_ the apocalypse. You will all have to deal with the flowers - now! {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: Am I The Only One Feeling Like My Losses Are Outside Of My Control?
Even if you are the best player on earth - **especially** if you are the best player on earth [because immanent part then] - your losses are out of your control. ;)
sAyCo (EUNE)
: Please Put your favorite champion and tell us if he/she a fight starter or after the fight start?
> ME: my favorite champ: {{champion:9}} Not good to start a fight, Able to join after the fight start. :-O Fiddle´s ult into Zhonyas opening a teamfight is his main relevance ingame imho. Top engage-champ. My main Zyra: she is able to start a fight but is a poke-champ most of the time. Timing not to die before she has her combo out is difficult. If there is a better option for engage she doesn´t.
: As Antenora said, the plants have a priority targeting system: First: Champion hit by the spell that spawned the plants Second: Zyra's auto attack target Third: Whatever is in range If you spawned the plant and there was an enemy in range that it's ignoring, that would be a problem. If they were just attacking minions instead of champions, that's normal If MF killed it with one auto from max range, I'd be a little surprised. I don't think she can actually kill it with 1 auto without it getting 1 shot off but I could be wrong
MF´s aa´s can 1-shot the plants because her passive (bonus AD-damage) count as 2nd damage source.
Antenora (EUW)
: You know you actually have to land the spell that spawns the plants or auto attack once the plant is spawned right?
The change since a 7.x patch was that they doesn´t have a preference for champs over minions. But plants alway attack the nearest enemy minion or champ anyway. The bugs occure since patch 8.16 or 8.15 and in this patches there is nothing mentioned. Even if - it would be just dumb.
: > [{quoted}](name=Pandeonor,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aa0wnety,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-16T13:26:44.146+0000) > > Riot said that it´s too much (art) work for them because of their plants. > > Only few players and more work = not enough revenue Wow so that it then? They made a champ they don't feel like putting the work into for skins?
Yup. That´s what they imho said years ago and I read actually at Zyramains that someone from Riot said it again within last weeks [via twitter if I remember correct]. Sad but imho the problem with skins for her.
: The lack of Zyra love from RIOT is disappointing
Riot said that it´s too much (art) work for them because of their plants. Only few players and more work = not enough revenue
: The plants AI bug is confirmed to be fixed for the next patch.
They fix the bug that the plants attack wrong targets like dead bodys. But they don´t fix the bug that they don´t attack anything at all.
FenrisRaa (EUW)
: The Higher you climb the ladder in this game the worse the game gets.
D4 vs plat2 is not that big difference. At least it seems that was a really bad match, you were invaded where Ryze died. Maybe he was tilted there [or after he died in lane 1 min later] but this had nothing to do with the elo. Especially if seen that he is platin2 but with 59%wr with high winrates on single champs. More then 6 [12 to be exact] champs with winrates of 60% or higher within only 134 matches with no former season ranking. He is therefore a smurf and not a bad one. A tiltet smurf but anyway not bad at all. In a 1 vs 1 against you I would bet on _him_ ;). Edit: you see the next match here; all others Diamond and he demolished as Draven the Xayah [which ended 0/7]:
: Zyra plant doesn't attack
We all (Zyra players) wait for a bugfix. I dought that it will be fixed until new season.
5050BS (NA)
: Zyra Got a fix !!!
I wonder if this fixes this bug as this is about not hitting _at all_ as the bugfix seems to be about wrong tagets only:
SonicAF (EUW)
: The game is dying
: bronze 5 question
Neither. -> He died afk because he´s a _ teammate_!
kurdt911 (EUW)
: The most sad thing with punishment in League of Legends
> [{quoted}](name=kurdt911,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JLw7rN18,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-13T09:59:11.404+0000) > > There no punishment for trolling. But trolling is the case of toxicity(not all but a lot). Ah... no. Toxicity is not based on trolling aside of the toxic players wich call others troller because they don´t do what they supposed them to do. Toxic people are most of the times guys wich think they know more then others do.
: Talking about Zyra's plants. There is been a lot of talk about the plants not targeting champions and instead focusing on the minions most of the time. Is this a feature??
Where you have seen that? No, that is not an issue as this is normal behaviour. The main problem is that Zyra´s plants does sometimes don´t shoot _at all_ or shoot with _delay_. The [by Meddler] mentioned bug of false aims is a part of this but we will have to wait if it is fixed too. I dought.
: Since we can lose games in bronze 5 0 lp and win games as rank 1 challenger......
> [{quoted}](name=Avg is Silver IV,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=wtNPHa53,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-12T06:28:38.270+0000) > > we shd add infinite leagues under bronze and above challenger as long as someone achieves them. Even if you would just take 100 out of diamond1 one of them has to be the "worst" wich implicates that this guy´s rank would fall infinitively in your system. He has a negative winrate and this will not change and so his MMR will fall constantly. The worst player is the worst player and the best is the best. The amount of "negative" or positive MMR and therefore of the not existing ending points [reached] on your indefinite scale is only restricted by the amount of rankeds they played. So the no1 in NA TF Blade would just have to play enough ranked games in order to get 1500LP and "cloudmaster7" and if he plays further on he will get "cloudmaster8" with 2000lp and so on. What for? So for me it makes no sense to have an indefinite scale. You have to stick players with similar skills together. No need to get microscopic-granular [sry I don´t know the correct english idiom for that].
: Usually get 'S', still lose games
Had the same as I was around SilverIV /V. Was hard there, much harder then in Silver I/II. Reason may be the weakness of the players there so that someone "better"[tm] - must play a hard-carry champ to compensate this alone as a single player or - must be good in making use of a lead, pushing the whole team I looked at your graph and there seems to be a weakness in objective control measured imho by damage to objectives wich is rated as D. Other stats seem to be ok even your cs (Anivia and Kai´Sa are at 4.9cs) are not the best. I have most often more with Zyra if I play APC or midlane and I am _really_ trash with cs because I play mostly sup.
: How could the aggro of Zyra's plants be on Poro????? (ARAM)
Zyras plant-AI is bugged since 8.16 or 8.15. "Unlucky" if they hit poros. Just played an ARAM and they did often hit noone/nothing. It is the case on all maps. In ARAM it is just more obvious as you zone out there all the time. So you have no proper mark. This leads the plants to focus nothing or perhaps poros or anything else like a dead body or a tower or a Bard-portal. They are in "sight-" [= last mark-] direction of the plants [between Zyra and vs] and not opposite way. They only hit (and this only sometimes) an enemy if coming newly into range or go out of range and into range again or the enemy is attacking the plant wich is senseless as the first hit just activate it and before a plant can shoot the second hit of an enemy kills the plant [so it´s the same as not shooting at all]. Until this such plants are since 3 months just flower-deco for the map. Or they are attacking cute poros and (very agressive) towers. The latter would be interesting (and concludent) if they at least would deal damage.
Akaash (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pandeonor,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KALAzLVU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-11T05:21:09.640+0000) > > Website is trendline. It's a trendline for the website itself. Not the game. Alexa is only useful for popularity of websites. Google trends is useful for looking up how many people are "interested" in a subject (based on google searches) but that still isn't reflective of userbase, it is reflective of search results. As you can see here, when pokemon go first game out it had ridiculous interest. But it tapered off quickly. Pokemon Go still has like 130M monthly users, whereas league is around 30-40M IIRC.
> [{quoted}](name=Akaash,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KALAzLVU,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-11T05:26:15.093+0000) > > It's a trendline for the website itself. Not the game. > > Alexa is only useful for popularity of websites. Correct. > Google trends is useful for looking up how many people are "interested" in a subject (based on google searches) but that still isn't reflective of userbase, it is reflective of search results. Correct, and therefore it is garbage the more people know about. According to it´s own the trend for "google" would show that google itself had a peak 2014 and lost nearly 50% between 2014 and 2018. As google was popular in any given time before 2014 and imho will not have lost 50% of it´s users last few years it tells us nothing. Alexa in contrast measures aside other things sites linking in. So it gives a much better picture of what is happening about the popularity between 2 timestamps. How many blogs are writing about it, newspapers and so on. Popularity is an important factor to draw a trendline of the [edit: especially future] playerbase as the playerbase doesn´t come out of the air.
: Alexa? As in Amazon Alexa? How in the world are Alexa results going to be useful for this? If anything, wouldn't people saying "Hey Alexa, check <game website> for news" be a *bad* sign for League, since players would be at their computers (where as Fortnight players could be at a computer, or phone, or Playstation, or XBox, or Switch, or whatever else it's ported to)?
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KALAzLVU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-10T19:12:07.400+0000) > > Alexa? As in Amazon Alexa? > Not really ^^. Even meanwhile alexa is owned by Amazon too it has nothing to do with the other alexa. Alexa-ranking exists for a long, long time now and measures data like sites linking into a site, mentionings on Twitter, Facebook and many other factors, weighting them and give out a score for this. It is not the score as such which is important because it may be wrong if you compare sites. But the _trendline_ is important because this is most often correct. If a site does better or worse in a given time gives some information about how it is recognized actually, separated in regions.
Alzon (NA)
: That’s the website, not the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Alzon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KALAzLVU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-10T19:06:26.665+0000) > > That’s the website, not the game. Website is trendline.
Rioter Comments
: This is a big problem. Very annoying when plants make phantom attacks. Please, fix this, Riot.
It is nearly impossible to play her actually as the plants does often not attack anyone if you are playing back or only zone out. I can play agressive without any problem but especially as support if you have bad matchups in wich you have to stay out of range Zyra is unplayable. That is the reason why I don´t play ranked and only play normals once all couple of days on EUW. I will not reach my aim of 2million mastery because it´s too annoying. Just playing on a new account on na server because I don´t care about my MMR here. But also.... if vs strong enemies... forget about it. You can´t trust that the plants shoot and this so often and in every single match.
Rioter Comments
: I'll probably bring in cakes that day, I think.
There were paper and pen games like aD&D in the past coming out. Not small but smaller companies [TSR<Wizard<Hasbro; even Wizard produced Pokemon later] were able to write background stories for every character and whole novels and Magazines like "The Dragon" exist later on wich are more or less part of merchandising [lets name some: Forgotten Realms, Dragonlance]. Is it an issue to find some proper authors wich stick the slack threads together? I mean - perhaps books maybe sold more often then shirts. [ok... ourtimes ^^ .... ] Thinking about more revenue anyone up there? [_innocentactingguylooking_]
: League really needs a Temporary Ranked Ban
When they are behaving bad they have to be banned. If not - then not. Why a ban only for rankeds? That they can troll nomal games harder because of more frustration? Don´t get the idea imho.
: Is Rito partially to blame for League's toxic community?
The obvious answer is: no. Because there is imho no big non-toxic gamer-community around. WoW, Dota, whatever game is the same. So you can´t blame one company not solving this "internet-phenomen" which sticks not to one game but to all such games and the internet as a whole. So Riot has to draw a line and has to control it. Manually controlling does not work because it is way too much and therefore has to be done automatically. This is imho fact so far and more or less the problem. It is actually not possible for computer (AI) to understand/meant what is written in a bad way or not. So the AI has to ask the (9 other) humans if the written words were bad. Like a parent whitch see 2 kids "discussing" and asking both who is the bad one the result will be that...... yeah, adult does not really know and both were showing bad behavior in the end. What does "adult" have to do? Nothing because it´s just normal that kids show bad behaviour to each other? What are we talking about? That restrictions happen or that they are too heavy, too fast.... ? If "_I know you guys are going to troll_" is really _unemotional_, idk. The problem is what I wrote before. AI don´t directly know it too but has to adopt what the other players think about. If someone has a better way wich would work really better - just let all know. Riot has 2500 emlpoyees and the game is 10 years old. It is not that easy to present a proper solution as it is to describe a problem wich sometimes is difficult enough.
Mc Raton (NA)
: One day people will understand this basic rule...
>One day people will understand this basic rule... No, they will not. You will learn that when you get older.
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