Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: September 13
Hello Meddler! Are going to get larger balancing changes post 9.19 as Proplay is locked in? Regarding Aatrox are you willing to discuss the potential mechanical changes being mentioned by a few Rioters beforehand. As for Mord do you belive he could benefit from a bit more satisfaction added to his kit.
Rioter Comments
: He's pro playtrox now rog
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=xe4HBZAv,comment-id=00070001,timestamp=2019-03-13T16:50:27.387+0000) > > He's pro playtrox now rog Begone spooky Spider
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 13
Meddler (NA)
: Assessing at present whether previous work to even out power discrepancies between pro and regular play went far enough. Possible we might need to push a bit further in that regard before we can buff him, possible we might just be able to buff him. Will share more once we have a clear stance.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=BiJm4R5E,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-03-06T19:43:27.927+0000) > > Assessing at present whether previous work to even out power discrepancies between pro and regular play went far enough. Possible we might need to push a bit further in that regard before we can buff him, possible we might just be able to buff him. Will share more once we have a clear stance. Im sorry Meddler but this is flat out insane, first he gets reworked into esentialy an entirely diffrente champion with none of the flare or mechanics of old Aatrox preserved or expanded apon, then he gets his legs broken because of proplay for a month, then none of his numerous bugs and flat out missing animations(its been 8 months and he still doesnt have a joke) get fixed. Im sorry but how anyone can call this a successful or faithful rework is beyond me.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 6
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 20
Aatrox is on failing life support Meddler. SEND HELP!!!!
: I've held off creating this thread for too long... The Day Riot invited me to Playtest Mordekaiser
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 13
: Writterog
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=5h84Lfln,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-11T00:27:05.159+0000) > > Writterog Go away spooky Spider
Rioter Comments
> [{quoted}](name=Ree%%%%%ed Team ,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=qzzu5y4t,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2019-02-06T18:27:40.757+0000) > > His insane damage and CC counter makes up for any weakness he has. What other champ has 4 Hard CCs and a dash (that gives more ad) + an ult that gives a huge boost and revive. All that with good lane sustain and massive early game pressure His total CC timer amounts to about 0.8 seconds if you count in the W pull as it stuns you very very briefly, overall this is less total CC duration than even his old Q which was a 1 second knockup, his damage gets completly negated by armour and he stacks black cleaver prob the slowest out of all its users. The revive is both annoying to Aatrox and his opponents as the amount of times it fizzles out while you are on deaths door makes you want to bludgeon your head with a mallet. His lane sustain is completly gone as of this patch, his dueling sustain gets cut in half by a 800 gold item everyone convinently forgets all the time. His ult MS duration is nearly worthless in a prolonged fight as it times out after 1 second. He builds health as his main defensive stat as armour comes mostly in the form of GA which is a late buy, his lategame is near nonexistant as he gets outclased and outdueld by nearly the entire toplane roster who dont need to worry about ridicioulous sweetspots that make 0 thematic sense as Aatrox is penalized for hitting you with the blade of his FUCKING SWORD.
: >kite-able >has two dashes and his Q gives him mobility lol ok
> [{quoted}](name=LaughsInTeemo,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=qzzu5y4t,comment-id=00100001,timestamp=2019-02-06T18:27:48.936+0000) > > lol ok There is no mobility in his Q. The ability is a self root without E and no i dont count a slitght trip as good mobility.
: More Aatrox "weaknesses" Rog
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=qzzu5y4t,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T18:08:26.411+0000) > > More Aatrox "weaknesses" Rog No u
: Champion Weaknesses in 2019
I fail to see how Aatrox doesnt already have well defined weaknesses: -kitable -the squishiest juggernaut besides Mord(who is getting VGU-d into an actual juggernaut) -an increadibly basic kit outside of Q -weakness to being jumped on (SWORDS DONT WORK THE WAY HIS Q WORKS INGAME BTW) -no answear to armour stacking -limited mobility(even more so now) -W is extremly easy to just walk out of Thats not even going into the low quality of his animations,his numerous animation bugs which havent been fixed SINCE LAUNCH(walking loop bug anyone), his freezing autos, his literal missing joke animation and a recyled dance animation which causes serious clipping issues.
: Nice post Mark
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=qzzu5y4t,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-06T18:04:25.476+0000) > > Nice post Mark Shu,go away Spider person.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 1
Hi Meddler. With the recent batch of nerfs for Aatrox on the PBE looking to hit live for sure do you think further nerfs are needed and do you think he needs larger and more fundemental changes in the future. He seems to have been a balancing nightmare since release.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 25
Hi Meddler, the Aatrox guy here. In light of these recent changes you have aimed for him which look to seriously shakeup the way he plays both in fights and in lane, do you think he needs much larger fundemental changes and does Riot still consider the rework succesful after all these changes.
: (Over)analyzing Mordekaiser's Roadmap teaser
Ty MM very cool. Much love from your Balrog friend ;w;
Reav3 (NA)
: Don’t worry fam, we currently have 0 Ionian champs is development which means 2019’s New Champs and VGUs will be Ionian free.
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nqE4a8Ey,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T16:14:20.742+0000) > > Don’t worry fam, we currently have 0 Ionian champs is development which means 2019’s New Champs and VGUs will be Ionian free. Speaking of champions and VGUs, we are expecting a roadmap soon are we not. Can you put a specific date on it so i can look forward to something in this stressful week to come <3
Meddler (NA)
: We're currently testing: Q damage :: 10-70(+64/68/72/76/80%tAD) >>> 10-70(+55/60/65/70/75%tAD) E recharge :: 24/20/16/12/8 >>> 26/22/18/14/10 Think it's very possible he needs additional work down the line. Having said that he's too strong in regular play too, not just pro, so possible we just need to cut power full stop as players in both contexts continue to get better at him.
> [{quoted}](name=Meddler,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=JeoGRXbm,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-16T16:44:17.280+0000) > > We&#x27;re currently testing: > > Q damage :: 10-70(+64/68/72/76/80%tAD) &gt;&gt;&gt; 10-70(+55/60/65/70/75%tAD) > E recharge :: 24/20/16/12/8 &gt;&gt;&gt; 26/22/18/14/10 > > Think it&#x27;s very possible he needs additional work down the line. Having said that he&#x27;s too strong in regular play too, not just pro, so possible we just need to cut power full stop as players in both contexts continue to get better at him. I know this isnt related much to the post or to you personlay but may i suggest that Rioters try and possibly reastabilish conversation with the Aatrox mains community(the old one mostly) as there is a negative sentiment towards Rioters and Riot since the rework launched and its rly sad to see for me personaly.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 16
Hi Meddle <3! Do you know the specifics of the Aatrox nerf/s and do you think he needs larger work to satisfay both proplay and regular play demand.
: [get HYPE] Scathlocke: "ALL Demacian champions could potentially play a part in what is coming."
Oh boy cant wait for a hundred more pages of Lux stories, while everyone else in Demacia get nothing.
Reav3 (NA)
: TW 3 Kingdoms does look awesome! Roadmap soonish, this month for sure
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1f4169wm,comment-id=0000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-08T19:09:04.899+0000) > > TW 3 Kingdoms does look awesome! Roadmap soonish, this month for sure Any specific timetable(early,middle,late January) P.S What faction will you play first in 3 K?
Reav3 (NA)
: yup
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1f4169wm,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-08T18:35:36.713+0000) > > yup Only one question remains Reav. Roadmap when P.S. TW Three Kingdoms looks awesome
: Ashe: Warmother. Issue #1. Avail nows!
Hi Odin, awesome comic and im super excited to see more comics from Riot. Anyway do the Avarosans have a grudge against Demacia since the whole burning of that one port town Demacia did in retaliation. Much love <3
: Norog
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=ATYEjlZv,comment-id=00170001,timestamp=2018-12-14T17:19:13.408+0000) > > Norog Bully ;_;
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: December 14
Meddler you once mentioned that some larger Aatrox changes were being tested, will we ever see those return?
: Good >:)
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=yHVyyrjz,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-12-12T22:13:59.892+0000) > > Good &gt;:) Go away spider person ;-;
: 2018 Lore Party Thread! Free-For-All Time
: Begone Rog
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=1fGaKtqV,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-12-12T17:33:03.143+0000) > > Begone Rog D:<
: Hey meddler can i ask about Urgot, since he still seems like a really strong top laner even after some of the rune changes
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=1fGaKtqV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-12T16:38:58.880+0000) > > Hey meddler can i ask about Urgot, since he still seems like a really strong top laner even after some of the rune changes No you cant >:D
: Jag is now canon Aatrox's father
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BWTfKcAQ,comment-id=00000000000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-02T20:47:04.200+0000) > > Jag is now canon Aatrox&#x27;s father You cant do this!!!
: Both Jarvan and Ezreal plan on vying for the right to kiss Shyvana's leg in a new comic
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BWTfKcAQ,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2018-12-02T20:44:38.030+0000) > > Both Jarvan and Ezreal plan on vying for the right to kiss Shyvana&#x27;s leg in a new comic Go away spider person, your bullying is restriced to discord only D:<
: I know Demacia is heading for a major shake-up. ... oops I’ve said to much.
> [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BWTfKcAQ,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-12-02T18:24:56.569+0000) > > I know Demacia is heading for a major shake-up. ... oops I’ve said to much. Ty papa Odin &lt;3
: We want to know what’s best for you! With this first run, universe will have free versions. The paid versions on Comicology will have a TON of extra content. Concept art, character designs, storyboards/thumbs, scripts, glossary of terms, frelordian culture stuff, and possibly even a very long short story. The physical book will include all the extras from comiicology plus possibly even more bonus content. Soooo... It’s really a question of how much u personally want to pay, how long you wanna wait, and how much u care about bonus content etc...
> [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BWTfKcAQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-01T22:28:25.257+0000) > > We want to know what’s best for you! > > With this first run, universe will have free versions. > > The paid versions on Comicology will have a TON of extra content. Concept art, character designs, storyboards/thumbs, scripts, glossary of terms, frelordian culture stuff, and possibly even a very long short story. > > The physical book will include all the extras from comiicology plus possibly even more bonus content. > > Soooo... It’s really a question of how much u personally want to pay, how long you wanna wait, and how much u care about bonus content etc... Hi Odin much love can i ask what kind of story potential Jarvan ansis Shyvana have since they have been written as a duo in their update and could they be eligable for a comic series like Ash?
: Some thoughts on more dated female champions, from a girl
Lovely piece of work. Yes many of these can do with Visual and IMO more importantly VO UPDATES. Great job.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 30
Thoughts on Aatrox? Does his kit need some power shifts to curve his high elo presence and maybe help out his absymal perfromance in lower elos.
: OH NO THAT'S MY REAL ACTUAL FACE.
> [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AcJaArhA,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2018-11-25T22:09:56.924+0000) > > OH NO THAT&#x27;S MY REAL ACTUAL FACE. The face of oblivion
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: November 22
Thoughts on Aatroxes current state and will we see those larger changes mentioned so long ago in a QGT by yourself?
Reav3 (NA)
: very....
> [{quoted}](name=Reav3,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=s9MHQRll,comment-id=0003000000020000,timestamp=2018-11-20T17:13:06.648+0000) > > very.... And so the teasing has begone. Damn you faraway roadmaps that we cannot yet read!
Xano501 (NA)
: In old lore should be Udyr. But in new current lore, JUST WUKONG.
> [{quoted}](name=Xano501,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RtOHGEju,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-02T01:47:12.912+0000) > > In old lore should be Udyr. > But in new current lore, JUST WUKONG. By Sigmar NO
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 26
Meddler i know im getting annoying but: Aatrox - We looked at a couple of possible nerfs to Aatrox, both lower base MS and/or shorter ult duration. Ended up pulling both though to instead go for more testing and potentially a larger set of changes in 8.22 Any news on these?
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: But no one loves you Balrog {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}
: I‘m even more excited about Morde‘s rework now
And the armoured statue with a specificly spiked mace in Vlads courtyard
: Vladimir (hey Blood Magicks), Nocturne and Veigar lore updates
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 24
Meddler where are those larger Aatrox changes, the ult change on the PBE is a heafty nerf that honestly kinda makes him more frustrating to play
Rexxiee (NA)
: Aatrox is not subpar in any elo, hes op as hell. Same with urgot, both need sizeable nerfs.
Just because something is proplay staple doesnt mean he is good everywhere. On stat sites his winrate is well below 50% with a semi decent playrate. https://u.gg/lol/champions/aatrox/build/ https://champion.gg/champion/Aatrox/Top? http://www.op.gg/champion/aatrox/statistics/top
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