> [{quoted}](name=Wilyum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MUggYFVv,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-17T21:17:49.172+0000) > > That isn't true if a soccer player keeps scoring in his own goal he can solo lose that game real quick when there are no subs and every own goal counts. > In this game if my ADC continually feeds the enemy Kai Sa there is not much to be done Soccer players have to do this intentionally (normally). League players drag the team down because they get snowballed on in this oneshot meta. A single mistake results in them getting insta-popped everytime the are slightly out of position. Ronaldo can carry his team if the players are on a somewhat decent level though. The room for mistakes for a soccer player doesn't decrease if he does a bad play. He can redeem himself and help the team - the only condition that has changed is maybe being a goal behind.

If I would enjoy the game as much as I did last season, I would get a lot out of the World Pass naturally. However, due to this season being basically unplayable, I just do a quick bot game to get the first win tokens if I don't feel like playing at all. Don't force yourself to grind mindlessly. It won't make you happy.

Less damage overall and no paper towers (especially at the nexus) are my biggest hope.

*gasp* Big surprise. Most of them sounded faker than the Kardashians. Spelling mistakes are a huge indicator some dumb fuck made these up, you know. 'TranscendAnt Nami'??

Quite the unique idea, Jhin main #4861.

This scenario isn't really about helping out, it's a problem of bad rotations. Botlane should have swapped lane with you right after they took bot tower, with your jungler shadowing them so they don't get killed. You get farm/experience and Illaoi can't stop 2 (3) people from taking her tower and nullifying her lead.

IS RIOT REALLY OK WITH THIS?!

BOXFEET?!

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/sBVcPLAP-as-a-pyke-player-please-do-not-buff-him As soon as the Pyke buff hit PBE, I posted a thread explaining in detail why he does not need it. It had a lot of upvotes, but Riot obviously did not care. They wanted to see him at Worlds - it was the only reason they buffed him, no matter how annoying he would become in terms of SoloQ. Worlds looking flashy > game experience for 99% of players. It's frustrating, but that's how Riot works this season. Instead of simply reverting this unnecessary buff, they are now planning to just nerf his tanky build. Big surprise.

Top is actually a really strong role right now, to be honest. If you pick an oppressive bruiser using Conqueror, your impact is insane. Jax, Urgot, Camille, Irelia and Akali are insane picks at the moment.

> [{quoted}](name=Hayaishi,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=30whTZyB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-10T00:54:27.888+0000) > > It feels like that because in this game it only matters which jungler played better. I'm a jungler and I disagree. Sure, impact is high, but most of the games and your jungler's impact are decided by the skill of your laners. There are a lot of games where both junglers haven't ganked yet, but two lanes already died during your first clear, snowballing to one of these games where you lose your ganking paths and jungle camps.

I feel you. They completely turned this game to shit this season. There is barely any strategy or skill expression in fights anymore. Just an overbearing amount of damage. You get seen/hit first, you die. You get outnumbered? You die. Strategic teamfights left for three seconds of button mashing. The calm aspect I absolutely loved about this game completely vanished. I'm out if pre-season doesn't feel A LOT better. I will leave after six years and I loved this game with all my heart for five of these years, but season 8 is simply unbearable. It is frustrating Riot refused to listen for a whole year now.

Big yes.

Sol is incredibly strong to be honest.

The sad thing is, back in the day art AND gameplay were awesome. The art and music departments are still doing a wonderful job, while the balancing department just straight up smokes crack or something.

> [{quoted}](name=Sensanaty,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n691E7oY,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-10-07T05:42:27.430+0000) > > In what fucking universe does giving someone free resists introduce skill expression and strategy, pray tell? You either picked resistances if you weren't trolling because they're resistances, or you didn't if you weren't playing comps, what magical decision making exists here that's so skillful, exactly? It's pretty obvious, but let me clear things up for you: People do not die as quickly when they have resistances. They need to actually hit multiple spells to kill someone. Hence, dodging skillshots is also significantly more rewarding. Watch this legendary clip for example: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8vGaC4OZIs If this happened today, Ryu would have killed Faker with his Duskblade Proc, Electrocute and two autos.

It looks annoying, but it's just casual split push to be honest. He doesn't seem to have that much success with it either.

I didn't particularly like old Aatrox' design, but I think he was at least unique, which new Aatrox is not. Riven and Rhaast had a clunky baby with an awkward W.

> [{quoted}](name=Ætheist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n691E7oY,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2018-10-05T19:27:48.814+0000) > > They've already posted what it looks like so far, and I copied that post in this thread. > > I'm pretty sure it's just going to get ignored because I'm not shitting on Riot, though. Don't worry, I've seen how it looks like, I just can't tell how the game will feel though. I'm waiting for pre-season before judging. Let's hope and see.

> [{quoted}](name=rawiazam1,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n691E7oY,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-05T19:15:10.415+0000) > > we are getting them back in the preseason It will still be a new system again. Let's just wait for pre-season and hope Riot learned from their mistakes.

Agreed. Runes Reforged pretty much started killing this game and it won't ever reach its prime again if we don't get these resistances back. Removing them was horrendously game-breaking - it killed champion identities and removed strategy and skill expression completely, sucking out most of the fun League had.

> [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UAT2HEzN,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-04T22:15:08.852+0000) > > Realise i wasnt shit talking you, while you were the one who went out of his way to downvote and talk smack about rank for some reason, as if that has anything to do with what i said. > No idea why i triggered you so hard you went out of your way to insult me when i didnt provoke you. > > Grow up, you're acting pathetic. In what way is mentioning D5 with obvious sarcasm not shittalking? You were the one following me around after throwing a tantrum in another thread because you play Graves ADC and thought he doesn't deserve nerfs. Something about "OUH SHIT OP, YOU HIT ME REAL GOOD". Telling others to grow up while acting like a complete child won't get you anywhere. See ya, have a nice day!

> [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UAT2HEzN,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2018-10-04T20:14:29.471+0000) > > Watch out boys, D5 is here to get salty because i downvoted his thread once lol > Now that's a real "Yikes" Woah, the mid Plat dude shittalking the D5. That's a new one. "_Easy, partner._" {{champion:104}}

Your covers are great :) That Dragonborn one gave me goosebumps. The Doki Doki Litarature Club song as well, but for other reasons ... _~~Do not trust Monika~~_.

Man, I miss the days of Warriors.

It's a good start! Let's see how it goes. At least they are finally touching that braindead freelo champ :) > [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UAT2HEzN,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-10-04T14:07:03.510+0000) > > Graves auto attacks are pellets, each pellet scales with his AD ratio, less AD at the start equals slower clear times, and lower AA damage for each pellet hit. Diamond just keeps getting further out of reach, huh? Yikes.

{{champion:105}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:121}} Hello there.

Most games right now feel like a 4v5 though, because someone always gets his ass clapped so utterly hard, they feel completely useless.

The Rioter who helped creating The Dragon Prince was someone who defended Daniel Z. Klein and his words and was furious about Riot firing him, I believe (@devongiehl on Twitter). Other than that, it looks like it's trying to be Avatar, but just can't. Back to topic, your thread is pretty on point and I can tell that it must have hurt in some way to write this. Because we all more or less lost something that we really loved. League started to lose its flavor for me this season. The main reason in my case is not the champion kits that keep getting more and more overbearing, it is damage being too high. We turned into Call of Duty kiddies, because our game became Call of Duty. There is barely any strategy or skill expression in fights anymore. You get seen/hit first, you die. You get outnumbered? You die. It is frustrating and boring. Strategic teamfights left for three seconds of button mashing. The calm aspect I absolutely loved about this game completely vanished. I just want my favorite game back, but Riot just does not admit/revert mistakes and let their game die - at an absurd speed at this point.

The first one is really terrible. I like the second one though.

Let's be real, everyone in season 8 is One Punch Man.

Or we finally nerf this bullshit champ to the ground. Just a suggestion.

Hell yes! {{sticker:sg-jinx}}

> [{quoted}](name=UVM ZhaoRiTian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=trEKMQTr,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-28T19:59:37.791+0000) > > The majority of the players who think damage is too high is because they do not play tanks and juggernauts at all. You got onehit because you fall behind in exp and gold and you refuse to build any of the tank/hybrid items. Can't blame Jarvan IV and Wukong. I can legit 100-0 the enemy ADC as a level 6 Thresh with one spell rotation + Ignite and this is not okay. Playing a squishy champ doesn't mean EVERYTHING should oneshot you. That is a fed assassin's job who lands all his shit. Not a Jax jumping on you and killing you with Q, auto, W and not a Zed with a Serrated Dirk, missing everything after ulting, but autos you twice and ignites you. Damage in this game is too high this season.

> [{quoted}](name=Uni3489,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RTFAmNJP,comment-id=00070000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-27T13:29:33.593+0000) > > Umm, yes. This is exaggeration. Also you say, "at peak performance". That's the point of playing to that point though, no? This isn't exaggeration. Watch any of TF Blade's highlight clips. He is a good example for peak performance, and no, you should not be able to 100-0 multiple people while being 10% HP when not even being fed. Despite knowing she has some bad laning matchups, he himself says Irelia is a busted champion.

Popular? Sure, she'll always be. Strong? That's what Riot chose themselves and I think **over**buffing only because of popularity and skin selling (Ahri, Kha'Zix, Pyke, Lucian) is frustrating and disappointing as fuck.

{{champion:105}} is so fucking annoying and strong recently as well. Nerf damage in general already, holy fuck Riot.

Agreed, I liked the previous one a lot more.

Agreed. This patch is the biggest middlefinger to the playerbase.

{{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} Strategic team fights and thought-out trades that reward you for staying calm. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} {{champion:121}} {{item:3147}} *******_button mashing noises_*******

{{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} Strategic team fights and thought-out trades that reward you for staying calm. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} {{champion:121}} {{item:3147}} *******_button mashing noises_*******

Big props to their art and music departments, but their balance team is not working at all. It seems like they just put some monkeys under drugs and let them roll some dices to figure out the next patch notes.

Who bans Kalista? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}

> [{quoted}](name=Uni3489,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RTFAmNJP,comment-id=000700000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-26T11:38:04.464+0000) > > I agree that she has a lot of damage. However, it's her ULTIMATE all-in. Most damage champs with damage ults tend to want to kill you with that ultimate all-in and Irelia is no different. She is even more susceptible to hard CC than most bruisers, since she has no natural defensive steroids other than her W, and even that got it's mitigation nerfed hard. Add on top of that the fact that she can't do anything during the channel, and you've got a champion that is weaker in teamfights than a lot of champs, as well as having her kill times be extremely conditional unless she's ahead, which is a trait shared by many more champions. Any champion with mobility can easily dodge her E, and her ultimate got it's range nerfed TWICE. Add to that that it's actually quite slow moving and has a relatively long wind-up, and the champion simply isn't as great as many think. Jax is better in nearly every way: better in lane, better at assassinations, better at teamfights, better at dueling. And yet still more people hate on Irelia. It's truly baffling to me, from an objective stance, how people can look at the facts and still call Irelia broken. She can kill a whole team with her ultimate all-in. On her own. This is not exaggeration. She was more vulnerable to hard CC in the past, as she didn't have her emergency button on W. Doing 'nothing' during that channel is not a big deal, as you actually always do one huge thing: soak damage for your team. You become a tank for a few seconds and then continue to be a bruiser assassin. Her ultimate is not really slow moving, most of the time good Irelias use their multiple gap closers to position themselves in a way to smack it into someone's face melee-range while cancelling its animation with another Q and hit multiple enemies anyway. Jax is too strong, sure, but so is Irelia when played at peak performance.

> [{quoted}](name=Æthercosm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=G8xsIbG3,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-09-26T07:14:40.915+0000) > > You DO realize that worlds patch means they just buff whichever champs they want to see played in worlds right? That still isn't a good thing to do and removes fun from all players, even pros who have to adapt a few days before Worlds.

> [{quoted}](name=Tesladin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ReMwhERh,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-26T10:26:02.404+0000) > > Doesnt make much of a difference Both buffs are absolutely huge and unnecessary, just like the buffs to Lucian, Irelia and Kassadin. The game is completely unbalanced this whole season.

> [{quoted}](name=Monstermushmush,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RTFAmNJP,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2018-09-26T01:02:59.632+0000) > > I'd say jhin is more op than lucian... but yes they will. That's more of an item/rune problem in my opinion. I don't know why they won't touch/remove Stormrazor or Hail of Blades.

They literally just buffed Kha'Zix and Pyke. Are you mental?