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: A Bronze Yasuo Main Reborn
https://youtu.be/75uPOZn6sto
: Old AD Sion. Melee champions having better base stats than ranged champions. Force of nature. Eleisa's miracle. Zephyr. Purchaseable wards and no cap on wards placed. Lack of jungle and support items. Nobody has special class items. Nothing is balanced around some gimmicky item.
> [{quoted}](name=DracoMTA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cJgpN1AM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-25T17:01:30.682+0000) > > Old AD Sion. > > Melee champions having better base stats than ranged champions. > > Force of nature. > > Eleisa's miracle. > > Zephyr. > > Purchaseable wards and no cap on wards placed. > > Lack of jungle and support items. Nobody has special class items. Nothing is balanced around some gimmicky item. Ah yes, old AD Sion. Like some weird hybrid between a juggernaut and a melee carry like Tryndamere. I wonder if this concept could be made into a new champion without being unbalancable.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Vekkna,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=82BEz0Xh,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-07-19T16:25:51.157+0000) > > Build early armor? Even non-lethality Garen shreds 50% of your total armor after his first item and has zero effect on the magic/true damage on his unavoidable ult. Building armor is gold-inefficient and mostly futile. > > The thing about Garen is that he is now a pretty difficult champ to play against while also being literally the easiest champ in the game to play. If you take Annie, hide her passive, make all her abilities free, and give her 25% free mpen, you get Garen. The Garen he was facing didn't build Black Cleaver (it was the next item). Additionally, Garen's E takes time before it reduces armor. At levels 1, 2, and 3, for example, he has the hit with four out of the five hits before any armor is reduced. By that, only one hit will benefit from that reduction.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=82BEz0Xh,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-07-19T16:31:00.138+0000) > > The Garen he was facing didn't build Black Cleaver (it was the next item). Additionally, Garen's E takes time before it reduces armor. At levels 1, 2, and 3, for example, he has the hit with four out of the five hits before any armor is reduced. By that, only one hit will benefit from that reduction. ^this The thing that makes lethality Garen so strong is the flat pen COMBINED with the percentage pen, since the flat pen applies after the percentage pen effects. I was specifically talking about EARLY armor, so before he even finishes a Black Cleaver. When you see a Dirk in the enemy inventory and you expect it to be built into another item ( let's say a Duskblade ), the immidiate response is to buy a cloth armor in return, negating the effect of all the lethality he bought to begin with. Regarding your comment about cost efficiency, if you keep in mind that flat armor is much cheaper and easier to get than lethality and that the percentage penetration only comes into play later into the game and in sustained fights ( which again, you don't want to be in if you are up against Garen and you don't HAVE to be in if you have the kind of mobility a Kayn has ), a humble cloth armor is the best choice. Another thing to keep in mind is that Garen's E pen combined with the Black Cleaver don't actually equate to a total of 50% armor penetration and instead shred your army for 43%, since Garen's E passive doesn't shred 25% of the total armor you have but 25% of the armor that remains after Black Cleaver has already penetrated it. It's kinda complicated but if you look at how armor, effective HP and penetration works and then do the math, I'm pretty sure you will come to the same conclusion aswell. Some links you might want to check out if you want to learn more about it: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_penetration
: I just thought of the scariest combo with the new duskblade
Seems legit. The only problem I see with it is that you have to remain stealthed for one whole second, in which you won't be able to auto attack.
: Garen+Lethality has no counter play
I am one of those filthy Garen players, here is some advice: -Build early armor. Even if you are a champion that doesn't build a lot of tank items, a cloth armor or even some Ninja Tabis in your inventory can make a lot of difference when you want to counter lethality builds. -Never just fight Garen head-on. If you're a tank, avoid him, farm under tower and look for TP plays, if you are a more aggressive bruiser or carry champion, make sure to keep track of his cooldowns and kite his abilities. Once his E and his Q movement speed runs out, it's time to go in. Especially with Kayn you can't just expect to win early trades, use your mobility to avoid him and wait for item spikes, don't just fight him and hope for the best. -In the late game, vision is crucial. Lethality Garen can't do a lot in teamfights, he relies on you facechecking the wrong bush or catching you off-guard. If you don't make any missteps and you are careful around areas without vision, lethality Garen is next to useless.
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: > [{quoted}](name=SääsMann,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2gEpH40i,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2017-07-18T13:33:15.660+0000) > > Good news everybody! Someone from Rito Gams probably saw this post: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/07/717-pbe-update.html That was 15 hours ago lol
> [{quoted}](name=Mizaya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2gEpH40i,comment-id=001d0000,timestamp=2017-07-18T13:37:41.424+0000) > > That was 15 hours ago lol Well I suppose I should actually read until the end of the post before making comments :P
Dr Poro (EUW)
: Duskblade of Draktharr's slow should be for melee only
Good news everybody! Someone from Rito Gams probably saw this post: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2017/07/717-pbe-update.html
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: What do people prefer? Nerfs to the strong, or Buffs to the weak?
In general, nerfs are better. I'm gonna let Pawnce speak on my behalf ( even though it's an older video ): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai6oMY4U0Yw
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: Didn't serrated dirk already use to work like this, but without a cooldown? And MF players already were abusing this?
> [{quoted}](name=shadowfir,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ftbc6pEV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-12T16:15:04.460+0000) > > Didn't serrated dirk already use to work like this, but without a cooldown? And MF players already were abusing this? No, it gave passive out of combat movement speed instead.
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: "U.R.F" Is what you want then
> [{quoted}](name=ScantyXKneesocks,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YYtHtEgE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-27T15:00:20.791+0000) > > "U.R.F" > > Is what you want then No, there are still rules in URF and the same tryhard mindset. People still play what's best and only want to win.
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Terozu (NA)
: For the last one it typically takes a while for site to catch up with your client account, give it a day or two, then try, it's like that with the icons as well, also since you just got back, I recommend trying out FEK, the forum enhancer kit, it makes the forum much better, and even adds profile pictures! https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/VZXIG5LR-fek-version-52?show=flat&page=9 go to that link to get it (It links to the boards dont worry) and if you want a profile picture, after installing post your picture on that post and ask for it to be ur profile picture, it'll take them a bit, and then you'll have ur pic(it has to be a square image or it will stretch weirdly though).
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