: recommended items aren't there to provide the absolute best items the champion can build but items that the champion can use and still perform decently. It's there to provide newer players what sort of items are good for a champion. After the new players learn the champion they can then experiment on what is the best on said champion (or just look it up online)
but it recommends 48% winrate build. That doesnt sound right. This was like that since 2 years. They are very niche items rn
: > [{quoted}](name=Saibot Fate,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-10-12T21:46:35.024+0000) > > No man. The Hybrid build was very nice back in the day. Those days are kind o over. Im not saying he cant build those. It is just not his main build anymore. I guess I just don't get it. I'm used to games where a build is as viable as the player behind it.
Its true but a game shouldn't assume if im good at crit damage jax and recommend me that right? Im sure there is someone who is winning games with crit jax.
: > [{quoted}](name=Saibot Fate,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-12T20:59:03.119+0000) > > It isn't viable. He is not this hybrid attack speed champion no more. He is more of a bruiser with Hp - CDR with damage comes naturally within {{item:3078}} {{item:3161}} He is if you build him that way, isn't he...? I'm confused. If you put a racing engine and tuned steering into a Ford Focus, it's a race car. If you put hybrid attack speed items on Jax, why isn't he a hybrid attack speed champion?
> [{quoted}](name=Zero Shingetsu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8QcAKOZz,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-10-12T21:39:45.021+0000) > > He is if you build him that way, isn't he...? I'm confused. If you put a racing engine and tuned steering into a Ford Focus, it's a race car. If you put hybrid attack speed items on Jax, why isn't he a hybrid attack speed champion? No man. The Hybrid build was very nice back in the day. Those days are kind o over. Im not saying he cant build those. It is just not his main build anymore.
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: item builds rarely ever get updated, it's best not to use those anyway. By now most people have and use their own.
You would be surprised how many players use it below plat. They are kind of important for this matter.
: im not saying its ideal im saying its not horrible and certain situations it will be viable. last night i played yorick top vs mord i started boots + {{item:2031}} i got spam pinged to death by my mid laner for my items mord couldnt hit me with his pull nor get to me when his passive proced cuz i could walk away from him early. that was enough to decide the lane. i went 5-2-9 where as the mord went 0-10-2 i legit stomped him so bad in lane he never recovered.
If its not ideal , it should not be recomended. You can start boots on champs like darius too on "certain" matchups. That doesnt mean the game should recommend this. People below plat has no idea why they bought that itemand they proceed to lose.
: yet how is that bad? boots helps her dodge skill shots and seekers gives her armor and ap which she needs both when she dives into an enemy to kill/do damage
Are you serious to recommend anyone start with boots right now? {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: just cuz other items are better dont mean he cant scale with those items and those items arent viable.
You don't get it. The items Im recommending is so good since 2 years its insane that people still building this low winrate build. Literally no on above gold elo builds hybrid. This is pure evidence people dont read item passives and only build cause they are in recommended build. {{item:3053}} Winrate on Jax : 66% {{item:3161}} Winrate on Jax : 61% {{item:3078}} Winrate on Jax : 54% {{item:3146}} Winrate on Jax : 48%
: Why are these problematic? Jax still scales with AP, he still benefits from healing, and he still benefits from insane attack speed.
It isn't viable. He is not this hybrid attack speed champion no more. He is more of a bruiser with Hp - CDR with damage comes naturally within {{item:3078}} {{item:3161}}
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