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after 1 item jax cant beat him no more. unless he is 3 kills ahead. kayle not really counted as melee after 5 min.
wait ive been into the morde vs mundo matchup and when he ults me i just cant break his shields with mundo. smth im doing wrong?
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i main top.
even if i was jungle why would i do that?
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i mean its impossible for him to even go behind by counter jungle bc he has all the means of escape. inside a jungle you cant find him in 3 let alone 1 v 1 jungler.
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im not asking anything. just saying he is very unfun to play vs. it takes 5 to track the guy down as if we hunting from treasure inside a jungle.
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she was right next to me when she q and for like 0.5 sec i could not hit rupture.
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if you are lucky enough to survive without feeding pre 6 there is a chance. but u got to survive and farm. if morde freezes and only uses q's agaist you while not touching minion to push wave its most likely gg couse he will be 2 levels ahead.
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https://blitz.gg/lol/champions/Jax/counters/Mordekaiser
not sure about that.
he has sustain in lane so i cant trade for long early.
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i tried with jax. as soon as he gets 1 items its over.
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how do you even know which one he starts alpha strike to when hes surrounded by targetS?
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late game? the guy is a monster on 2 items. define late game for yi
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theres barely any damage in that combo compared to neeko.
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fears*
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barely a combo damage compared betwen the 2.
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https://champion.gg/champion/MasterYi/Jungle
53% winrate min 30-40. god forbid it reaches 40+ couse its 57%
you see the big jump there? its him when hes fed or full build. impossible to stop.
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do you even see the guy when he hits q? its like being dead from strong winds. he spends 99% of the time inside q. meanwhile he kills a 7k chogath in 8 strikes. imagine that.
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jax is targetable atleast. give him 1 stun and he can be shut down just as fast. with yi 1 single stun just wont do it couse he will dissapear and reappear on whichever target he chose. which u dont know.
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again. i have no need for that item besides when its a mordekaiser. no other champ isolates you. you wanna talk malhazar? you are in the same map as your team so whenever he ults you in a bad position or a good position all depends on him. and he puts himself at risk while he ults. mordekaiser will trade 1 for 1 atleast.
its a waste of 1300 gold only bc riot made a champ out of this universe.
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except morgana damage and neeko damage dont even compare. aswell as the kits they got. neeko has a combo. morgana has nothing but that q.
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as a melee qss is worthless. morde can still stack his shields with or without it. so why should i get one. again. and loose 1300 vs 4 other enemy members.
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and again once more you are bringing qss up which as i explain. it keeps him away but literally gets me behind the 4 other members of enemy team. i sacrifice 1300 gold out of my build only bc he exists. no other champ only him. i dont need it with any other champ but him. define that as fair
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well i have seen both sides of the coin and they are just as bad. define proper knowledge when he ults pls.
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while that would be pretty fun i think the main problem is that the more game types you have the more divided the players so the longer queue's.
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wait why diamond only. are we plat guys in ther just for show? as if we dont have plenty of diamond smurfs in our elo's only couse they duo with some golden boy
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oh you mean like stereks + spirit visage? nope. still dead after he used q 2 times on me and then ulted.
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morde is pretty easy to play against ranged in early so they can bully him and he cant stack his shields and passive. vs melee its a whole new story. it takes him 10 min of playing safe for him to become unbeatable 1 v 1.
also buying qss means 1300 gold behind just so you dont die to the guy anymore not that u can trade with him. and now you are -1300 gold from your core items. reminder. mordekaiser its not the only enemy on the map to itemize againt. which is why i hate the fact that i have to get a whole item just to counter 1 specific champ.
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hey im fine with fixing garen and jax both. once they fix toplane vladimir riven and fiora that is.
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right becouse its super easy to run away from him when he throws you.by the time you get away from him w you are half health if not near his ult health range, and he can still break your q with his when you try to re engage in the fight. not that if you go in you got the dmg to finish him before his w comes on again.
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honestly i think garen needs a fix soon...but then i see mordekaiser and vlad top and im like. nah he can be 2d in line im fine with it
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to sum it up. read probabilty once more as to how to ban is better then not to ban and gives advantage. clear answer up there.
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i think he ment draft as in the draft phase during ranked. but not to separate flex from due he simply went with draft phase :)
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i think he ment draft as in draft phase during ranked.
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he ment draft pick as in the draft phase that ranked queues have
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now you are simply rotating around the subject but not at the centre to proove you are right by implementing all sorts of fiction. for whatever you say from now on my answer is simple.
all what you mentioned above are separate scenarios of the bigger picture i said in my previous probability example.
why have a chance to a normal lane when you can have an excellent one by maximising your probability.
every champ u mentioned above has counters whenever lane or late but i wont go with you on that one. totally separate subject. ill just go with the way game is made every champ has counters.
again. their laner is doing it for their team or himself and maximising best chance probability. you are not for yours or yourself.
from now on for every thing u might come up with ill just go with read my probability example again. math never lies.
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welcome to league. enjoy your stay here :)
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dude again. understand basic math and probability please.
5 champs who i destroy vs 4 who do better into me.
what is more likely to get picked out of the 2.
theres a box with balls
white balls are champs i beat.
black balls are champs that beat me.
you take out a black ball with ban. more chance of me taking a white ball and be victorious. theres many picks but that is how you help. you reduce the probability that i will get a counter (black ball).
now bc its a counter i do worse in lane then i would be doing vs a champ i beat.
enemy team is doing it for theirs. you are not doing it for yours. you dont know whats gonna get picked in enemy side but you think the worse case scenarios for your team and you try to eliminate one(the worse one possible you can think off) to increase the possibilty of better scenarios
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again re -read the last pharagraph in what i said.
the 2d scenario is clear on what you just said above. read it again carefuly please.
also every champ has a list of champs he does well into. theres lets say 5 i beat easily and 5 that got upper advantage. you banning one that has the upper advtange now means they remain in a 5-4 ratio. means more chance of one of the 5 champs i easily beat to be picked and not otherwise.
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then you do not read. not banning a champion which threatens your team composition or an important member of the team maybe you included if you want to use it for your own lane, leads to a series during the game where you are more likely to loose fight maybe idividualy or teamfights based on the champion at hand.
banning is a powerful tool to be taken full advantage off and not doing it means lowering the chance of you team winning. it maximises the chance that you, your team mates, or your team composition will not get countered if used correctly.
EXAMPLE: if you are confident in your ability to do well but your adc is an ashe then what you do is you can potentially ban a mordekaiser or a jax who threaten her, or maybe a blitzcrank since she has no escapes if hooked. it means you give her an easier laning phase or late game teamfight scenario based on kits. increases the chances of her being a potential carry instead of a potential feeder or the first to fall in a teamfight.
the idea is at any point use it for something to give someone may it be you or a team mate the advatage of a particula champ not being picked which if it does would threaten someone on your team due to being a good counter.
EDIT: another scenario. you might pick a champion to whose irelia is a big problem to. but you are confident you can trade with her,but a team mate of yours cant.
if you banned irelia you would be into an even better matchup for you even though you do fairly well against your counter + you would help out all other team mates who would strugle vs her and her ult.
you see now how me who bans a champion for myself can in the same time help my team alot. even more if the champion picked is a meta champ.
you are not totally to blame for loosing but becouse you decided not to ban anything then maybe the champion that someone else being in your place would ban would mean that their team had the upper hand in the game to start.
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caitlyn barely has traps to make up for anything ganks included and a small escape barely out of melee hands.
twitch has exchanged with vayne stealth for tumbles, which again with ult she can use invisibility and she can push the turget away.
kaisa can peel if she hits her void seeker.
jinx? getting in from her 3 traps its super easy compared to cait or anyone. she needs cc from someone else or someone running in a straight line to make use of them.
lucian? he has his escape ability which again vayne has one aswell + push away + invisibility with R
in whole cases mentioned above vayne has the kit to be more mobile then anyone. advantages given to her becouse she is shorter ranged where even if jumped on she can tumble and if in real trouble use R + the push away
out of all the other adc's she is the worst to catch if tried to jump on out of mobility. so to end the case she has plenty of advantages becouse she is shorter ranged in her kit. its been already made up for.
and again i EDIT: you want to give her %health true damage make it based on another stat not the enemys health bar. make it so the % is based on a stat of her own champion so it does not differentiate from tank to squishy so hard damage wise.
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or we downvote them simply becouse compared to the valuble points we are making theirs is simply, well thats what i wanna do.
this is no more of a circlejerk more then any other disscusion in the forums. its opinion and the majority of the people who feel that way get to choose if that thread makes sense or not to get the attention.
its not a dopamine rush. its simple reasoning based on arguments. if to you calling this a circlejerk or dopaminerush makes you sleep better at night by all means please go ahead. but downvotes will be downvotues for coments like yours whose main point is to call people out then to discuss the subject with valuble points.
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