: @Riot: So you made the case a long time ago about how difficult it was to make skins for Kha'Zix...
Erm... https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8366589/5df48c1eb989700e.jpg?noredirect
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Thanks for the answers! Though not sure why would you rank Renekton above Nasus. Is that because Renekton got succumbed to his rage and have became stronger than ever, while Nasus got weaker through centuries due to his emotional disaster? I always thought Nasus was stronger than Renekton. Are Darkins born as weapons or they're trapped in human made weapons? If they're trapped in weapons, what are they? What is their true form? Are they related with demons?
I just rank Renekton as a better individual warrior overall compared to Nasus. That's just my opinion though. Their strengths are expressed differently, but I favour Renekton's physical prowess over Nasus's. The darkin weapons are the spirits of darkin sealed within the weapons. They're not related to demons as far as I know.
Ralanr (NA)
: Just like how Sion represents Dementia and/or depression!
Yeah! Man some champions are uber depressing. I'm glad we have Iverns and Kleds to balance it out.
Ralanr (NA)
: I'd argue Warwick's struggle is more relatable. He represents the monster we all try to keep in check. Or better, represents a man who tried but failed to be a good person, something that people can do every day.
Yeah that's kinda true. He's a more fantastical/sci-fi approach to a more relatable issue.
: So is Aatrox confirmed NOT to be a very old weapon wielder that succumbed to the Darkin? Just a Darkin that isn't trapped in a weapon?
Aatrox is the darkin here yes.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Oh wait. Did you just confirm Aatrox is the user of the blade rather than the blade? Everyone has speculated that the blade is actual Aatrox and host is just a guy we don't know. Interesting. How powerful is a darkin in its full potential compare to one of the most powerful human champions, Syndra? As you said ''majority'' :P Comparing Rhaast and Aatrox to Xerath, Volibear, or even Nasus, how powerful are they? Also, feels like Aatrox is more potent than Rhaast since he can free himself.
Aatrox was, as far as I'm aware, the darkin trapped in his sword. He dominated his host, warped their body, and made himself whole again so to speak. Aatrox is the darkin here. We don't know who his wielder was. When I say known darkin, I mean the darkin known to players, that being Aatrox and Rhaast presently. And I dunno what Aatrox's deal is presently. Hm...personally I'd put it as a darkin probably winning out in the end if she fought one, but she's formidable. I wouldn't put it past her to kill one of them. Rhaast and Aatrox to Xerath or Voli? I'd say no question that Xerath and Voli come out on top 1v1. Nasus, I wouldn't give it to him so easily though he'd have it better than most. I personally think that Renekton would beat a darkin, if my opinion's any consolation. I wouldn't say that. It's more a case of what's going on with the weapons. They were sealed away in various locations long ago, and Rhaast was only recently rediscovered by people. Aatrox hasn't been in such a situation for a long time. I'm actually not up to speed on Aatrox's lore beyond what's player facing, so apologies there.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: How can they wipe out humanity? And why don't they?
1. Because they are much more powerful than the vast majority of humans can ever hope to be. 2. Because they currently known ones are trapped in weapons and still struggling to get out with the exception of Aatrox, who seems to just be doing his own thing really. I'm not sure what his deal is atm.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Can you expend this ''scary''? Almost every champion is scary compare to average runeterran. Comparing It to Ursines, Ascended, Voidborns, Aspects, Demons, High Tier Undead of Shadow Isles (Mordekaiser, Karthus, Hecarim etc) would be much more revealing. :p
The thing that makes the darkin scary is that they're unreasonable. They fight to destroy and nothing else, while also being incredibly powerful. They could have very well wiped out mankind on Runeterra.
Ralanr (NA)
: One is scary. Ionia has_two_. On top of how connected to the spirit works Ionia is, the continent is just scary. I don't know if Noxus could hold it without making it Shadow Isles 2.0.
And think, Noxus was beaten mostly by Ionia's human strength. With things like Hextech, shadow magic and darkin, who stands a chance?
Ralanr (NA)
: This means we potentially have two darkin in Ionia. This makes some sense, but it's rather terrifying.
Darkin anywhere are terrifying really. Even one is a scary enough prospect.
Ralanr (NA)
: Guess I'll buy {{item:3157}} on Sion for his Darkin form! Cause you know he'll target high health targets with that one!
Play some Galio/Shen and get a Knight's Vow then, and watch as Kayn uselessly flails against your squishies who now take basically no damage from him as you ult them to stomp on his stupid face! Honestly I dunno. You and I will likely have similar grievances with Kayn. I'll get revenge by feeding him to Rhaast whenever I play him.
: Kayn is the ultimate Edgelord
Shieda Kayn's cool. Rhaast is the fucking beast I wanna play him all day!
Crewx (NA)
: Some people might be tired of it, but I think a minigame where the victim attempts to wrest Kayn/Raast from their body would be very cool. Not sure how it would work, but it'd be cool.
That's kinda impossible; Kayn and Rhaast kill each other to achieve dominance. By the end only one character remains.
: oh okay cool. i like the champ. how does the ability that allows him to walk through walls interact with enemy vision?
I don't think enemies can see him in the wall. They can see where he enters if they have vision of the wall itself, but otherwise unsure.
Tialilia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FJNxl5Ry,comment-id=000a0001,timestamp=2017-06-27T18:22:21.755+0000) > > He is a part of the "Order of the Shadow", which is the one that Zed is master of. Zed brought Mr. Shieda Kayn in to the order himself. He's not biologically related to Zed. I though Zed had better taste in his disciplines, lel.
Hey Kayn can contend with a darkin (for now). I'd say that's pretty impressive.
Ralanr (NA)
: So...I'm really not liking his E. It's a cool ability, but I really don't look forward to dealing with it. I don't see the counterplay to his ult. That's going to cause a lot of complaints. As for his lore, is he apart of the same order of shadows as Zed? Or did the box originally belong to his clan? If this turns out to be Zed's son, I swear to god he's basically pulling all the Mary Sue check marks.
He is a part of the "Order of the Shadow", which is the one that Zed is master of. Zed brought Mr. Shieda Kayn in to the order himself. He's not biologically related to Zed. Or adopted. Ult counterplay is "buy a zhonyas" seemingly.
: So Ionia now has an hardass anti hero, murder hobo x2, edgy mc edgy lord, enviromental terrorist, muh family died x2 and balance above all. Jesus Ionia the edge is real lol.
Having a catastrophic war happen on your shores that totally fucked you over will do that sometimes. They're still recovering as a people in many ways.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Oh no, totally Rhaast ;)
Oh good, we're on the same page! Fantastic!
Sukishoo (NA)
: Sexy :D
Those horns, that metal, the unnatural cacophony from his abilities, yeah Rhaast is one sexy beast! ...Oh you meant Kayn?...Well Rhaast is better so there!
: did this get early authorization to be posted due to the leaks?
This is when it was scheduled to be released. No leak changed that.
: He has sasuke signiture duck ass hair cut, it makes him look like such as edgy asshole.
He pretty much is an edgy asshole character wise if I recall, both him and Rhaast.
  Rioter Comments
: Oh Sharjo, where have you been? We Story, Art, and Sound nerds miss you.
Busy, mostly. Riot work keeps me a-going and all that!
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=M9Qw5t26,comment-id=00020000000000010000,timestamp=2017-06-27T17:32:37.782+0000) > > Well I consider Zed Edgelord McEdgepants the First personally. He's pretty edgy. Is Yas second? Or would that title go to WW now that he's not just a werewolf, but a "steampunk chem-wolf chimera" Oooo! Aaaa!
Yeah Yas is the second in my book. While Warwick's pretty edgy he's also kinda too far removed from human to remain completely reletable, so I like him more. I'll take an edgy monster guy over an edgy human any day.
: Wait, who are the first and second? Yasuo and who?
Well I consider Zed Edgelord McEdgepants the First personally. He's pretty edgy.
Tialilia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mMenkNU9,comment-id=000300000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-27T16:48:41.653+0000) > > My 3 level 7s are Sona, Bard and Nami in that order, with Tahm as my lvl 6. I'm lacking practice on other supports, but Rakan's slowly creeping up there since I find him really visceral as a support. > > Got Thresh to lvl 5 so that's always a plus! > > If you wanna pick up Sona then build wise you guys EotW, boots of choice and then in to Censer with Redemption and Athene's in there to. Gotta keep in mind though you're squishy and highly vulnerable early; you scale really well later though. I really have the feeling, every support main has Nami at level 7. However, she is by far my favourite support, even if I currently unable to win my games as her, which is driving me crazy :/ Rakan is amazing and his ulti is probably one of the strongest in this game, but his lane phase is really bad, at least in my opinion. But he is probably one of the most fun champion to play for me rn. Thank for the information, I definitely will try! The reason I never really picked up Sona was her lack of CC pre-6, but I kinda think I still wanna learn her. Any tips for Bard as well? I kinda unsure about him, 'cause he has an amazing fantasy, but I not sure if I'm able to use his kit to the fullest.
Nami's a generalist, so it makes sense. Her skills are nicely transferrable. Yeah Rakan's laning is kinda butts. But once he's out of laning he can pull off some real silly things. Never underestimate the potential of a power chord'd E's slow! Try and allign your chime collection with your roam pathing if you can. Laning wise it can suck since you get outranged by some folks (Thresh and Blitz are nightmarish), but it's manageable if you keep yourself safe. Most of your time interacting with enemies revolves around trying to allign your Q for stuns where you can, but the slow from it can be helpful too, as can the meep's slow. It's important not to tunnel on your ult if you're using it offensively and catch someone out; that can get turned around on you.
: > Complete fucking twats is who. Next champion is a twat confirmed.
Oh Kayn is a total twat, believe me. There's a reason I call him Edgelord McEdgepants the Third.
: Am I the only one who is getting tired of all these leaks?
I'm ALWAYS tired of content leaks. People literally risking their jobs to get internet karma. Like wtf who does that. Complete fucking twats is who.
Tialilia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mMenkNU9,comment-id=0003000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2017-06-27T16:18:36.695+0000) > > Dude I have 3 champions with mastery level 7, all supports. One with level 6, a support. I feel you. Support Mains ftw! Jep, pretty much the same. 6 of 5 are supporter (Nami, Janna, Leona, Braum & Rakan) and only one mage (my beloved Syndra). I don't see any reason to change it, however I actually thinking about expand my support pool (currently thinking about picking Thresh, Soraka & Sona up as well).
My 3 level 7s are Sona, Bard and Nami in that order, with Tahm as my lvl 6. I'm lacking practice on other supports, but Rakan's slowly creeping up there since I find him really visceral as a support. Got Thresh to lvl 5 so that's always a plus! If you wanna pick up Sona then build wise you guys EotW, boots of choice and then in to Censer with Redemption and Athene's in there to. Gotta keep in mind though you're squishy and highly vulnerable early; you scale really well later though.
Crewx (NA)
: You're missing out on a golden opportunity. We could call them Daarkin.
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Tialilia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mMenkNU9,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-27T15:57:53.962+0000) > > If I recall Rhaast's a skirmisher, not an assassin. Could be wrong though. I still feel stupid since I really don't understand the whole subclass anyway. But tbh, I'm a support and classic mage main - so probably won't have any interest at learning him since he probably won't fit my playstyle at all. And I'm incredible picky about my champion, I mean I have only 17 champion with mastery points at all and 6 of them with at Mastery Level 7. So yeah, still probably won't play him.
Dude I have 3 champions with mastery level 7, all supports. One with level 6, a support. I feel you.
Ralanr (NA)
: Most people won't differentiate. But skirmisher makes sense.
Well it's a difference in how the ability's work: Kayn's ~~Q~~ W can be cast while moving in Shadow form, while as Rhaast it can't but has an aoe knock up. A bit less burst; more fighter power in a skirmisher, so the two will play differently.
Tialilia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mMenkNU9,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-06-27T15:26:48.252+0000) > > That's why when I get to play Kayn I'll only ever play as Rhaast, because seeing the edgelord Kayn fail and die as a result just fills me with glee! Sounds like I thing I would also do. However, I just don't like playing assa at all.
If I recall Rhaast's a skirmisher, not an assassin. Could be wrong though.
: Is that five including Aatrox?
: So this is just me brain storming here.......But there were six remaining right? So we have a Sword, Scythe, and possibly a Bow. So I am thinking that what is left is maybe a Hammer, some other kind of weapon.........and I would love to see a whip.
Five remaining according to Aatrox's bio.
Tialilia (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sharjo,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mMenkNU9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-06-27T15:18:54.336+0000) > > How anime SHOULD he be? Dude his gameplay fantasy is literally, and I quote "Edgelord Assassin". > > He BLEEDS anime. He's more anime than Nightbringer Yasuo. I swear to god, I have the feeling I become too old for this fandom, the edgeness is killing me.
That's why when I get to play Kayn I'll only ever play as Rhaast, because seeing the edgelord Kayn fail and die as a result just fills me with glee!
: I feel like Darkin are either trapped or possess different weapons. And in turn try to corrupt the wielder. We have the Darkin Aatrox which represents the blade. We have the Darkin Rhaast which represents the Scythe. And I am willing to bet that Varus is partially corrupted by a Darkin which is in his bow. All three are at various stages and some have been able to resist more then others. Aatrox appears to have completely taken over the host. Kayn seems to be at a midpoint where he is still struggling for control with Rhaast. And Varus seems to slowly be taken over by whatever Darkin has him. I am hoping that along with changes to Aatrox and the New Champion we also get an update to Varus. I really hope he has a Darkin and that we can get a name. As well as a sweet update to the lore.
They're trapped. The darkin were imprisoned in those weapons a long time ago.
: On a scale of one to Yasuo, how anime is Kayn going to be?
How anime SHOULD he be? Dude his gameplay fantasy is literally, and I quote "Edgelord Assassin". He BLEEDS anime. He's more anime than Nightbringer Yasuo.
: Plot twist: Aatrox possibly isn't an actual Darkin but his sword is and possessed him.
It's no so much as possession as it is "Yeah he's dead". The darkin weapons tend to kill their hosts.
: The tease is real. You wound me, Sharjo.
Good, it's the thing that helps me deal with the fact I've seen this stuff in development for months and couldn't talk about it!
Korios (EUNE)
: So theories about Varus or Brand being Darkins can exist?
They can. Probably won't be long before you won't need theories to know who is who.
Korios (EUNE)
: Oh c'mon :C
Korios (EUNE)
: So... do all Darkins have double "a" on their names?
Bultz (NA)
: What is Riots/Leagues stance on champion sexuality?
If it's important to their character it'll be brought up when it makes sense. Otherwise it's probably not gonna appear since it's not a key point of every given story. For example Gangplank's probably not gonna be thinking about the time he couldn't get up one morning after some rough sex with Illaoi while he's driving a hot knife in to someone's arm. If she's punching him in the face though those kind of memories might come up again.
: but remember that Riot said before they announced that Roster updates will be cancelled that eveylnn will come before pretty season. They also confirmed that the list of the next releases is: New Champ , Urgot, new Champ, eveylnn the preseason happens mostly in 7.24 . We have now 9 patches left for 4 Champ releases (remember World's need some balance patches) So a time schedule could be 7.14 new champ 7.15 pool party skins 7.16 Urgot 7.17. world's 7.18. worlds patch 7.19 7.20 new Champ 7.21 7.22 eveylnn 7.23
> So a time schedule _could_ be Could also be: 7.14 - 7.15 New Champ 7.16 - 7.17 Urgot (Disabled for Worlds) 7.18 World Patch 7.19 - 7.20 New Champ 7.21 Evelynn 7.22 7.23 Or any other variation of that list. Also who said anything about pool party skins?
Jango Mage (EUNE)
: But they said everywhere that its release is really close.
Real close could be next patch, the patch after, or the patch after that. Assuming dates makes an ass of us all y'know.
: Just curious, are they the same as the ebony wyverns that were mentioned in the Demacian lore update, or are the two entirely different beasts?
I actually don't know, but their tail is shockingly like Galio's so...maybe? I'll have to ask someone.
Craxsian (EUW)
: What kind of creature is riding that badass demacian?
That's what Demacian Raptors look like. They also have really long tails.
Epicurus (OCE)
: > “Humans are a splintered race, Xayah. Only Zed and his shadows broke the pact. They do not speak for all men.” This is a quote from the Vastaya Akunir in Zayah's short story. He is a Vastayan ambassador to the human race, and is acquainted with the Kinkou Order. Zed might not be the only human who has harmed a Vastaya in history (take the fortune-teller from Ahri's story for example), but it is apparently only Zed who is committing the most grievous crimes. Honestly Xayah is a moron.
People tend to panic when their source of life begins to dwindle, though I'd agree that she could be more rational.
: {{champion:6}}
So hyped for the THICCness, you have no idea.
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