Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shmyx,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=J5KVI7jZ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-20T17:11:20.179+0000) > > I am not a fan of "ironclad" rules: To every rule there is an exception that makes it look ridiculous. > > > And as the one in front of the report button, I am basically part of the jury here: If I decide to ignore that _technically_ the rules were broken then I am allowed to do so. > > This is in line with most modern western judicial system, which were specifically designed to allow the jury to vote against the law and have their decision still be heard anyway. > > > So while both of them clearly _technically_ broke the rules, I am still not sure whether I want to report them. > To me they just seem like some kids duking it out. And they agreed to talk it out after all... > > Maybe my threshold for toxicity is just way too high :P If its mild on both sides, I don't bother reporting, but this seems like it was pretty intense in game. Unless I was finding the dialog entertaining enough to be worth having my game ruined, I'd report both.
Hmm, now that you say it, I think you're right: This was unusually toxic. My toxicometer seems to be way undertuned. Has league become less toxic in the last years? Or do I remember past league more toxic than it was? Hmm.
: Report them all, let RIOT sort 'em out!
I like your point: Let this get figured out by the people that get paid to do just that! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} Dammit, now having worried over this seems like a waste of time. Welp.
: It’s great the Riven agreed to talk it out at the end in the post-game lobby. That being said however, some of the things the Riven said were absolutely uncalled for. As JoOo stated there is no place in this game for hate speech or lashing out at your teammates. Sona is equally at fault for basically giving up, which falls under the griefing/giving up under the ingame report feature. Justifiable or not you cannot abandon a game because someone was mean to you. It sucks that the Sona has to deal with the toxic Riven but Sona’s absence from the game after the exchange ended up costing their team the game, or at least heavily contributed to their loss. Both Riven and Sona should have been reported. I’m not saying Riven’s offense was worse than Sona’s, though their words portray them as as short-sighted and undisciplined, and I am not saying Sona’s was worse than Riven’s, though her actions did directly attribute to their team losing. In the end they both broke the rules and both deserve to be reported. It may not seem fair or balanced but, as in life, sometimes it isn’t fair or balanced. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
I am not a fan of "ironclad" rules: To every rule there is an exception that makes it look ridiculous. And as the one in front of the report button, I am basically part of the jury here: If I decide to ignore that _technically_ the rules were broken then I am allowed to do so. This is in line with most modern western judicial system, which were specifically designed to allow the jury to vote against the law and have their decision still be heard anyway. So while both of them clearly _technically_ broke the rules, I am still not sure whether I want to report them. To me they just seem like some kids duking it out. And they agreed to talk it out after all... Maybe my threshold for toxicity is just way too high :P
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