: mid AP nautilus is just really cheap
i disagree, humiliating a katarina in lane was really fun. and aniway whats wrong on giving some versatility to champions, why naut shouldnt be viable outside of his tank role?
: Fun fact, Supports can hard carry just as much as any other champion if they have gold advantage too. Tanky supports can get tankier faster to survive longer in team fights and dish out CC, enchanters can get early items like Ardent Censer or a Unholy Grail, and poke supports can get a little more AP to beef up their damage. Let's dispel this notion that somehow a support getting a kill is the end of all society as we know it.
yeah they can get kils but support is supposed to be the least gold reliant role, so most of the time is better if your adc get fed, unless you're securing the kill another example: your hypercarry teammate just did a quadra and he is about to go for the penta.. oh noo he didn't get it.. yeah i would call it ks in that case
: Jungle - I can't start Blue buff now.
hey i'm playing a bit of jungle lately, can you explain to me why so i didn't get it
: Biscuits are saved until you have a free spot.
Hotarµ (NA)
: Vayne and Riven are [POTENTIALLY] getting nerfed. Rejoice, my brothers.
the real nerf to vayne is the guinsoo nerf.. apparently it will proc every 3 not 2 hits and for compensation it will have 15% penetration from the start
: Because as it's been explained in the past: **Buffing tank damage is the best way to get them to improve for *solo queue*, as aside from extreme buffs to utility, anything besides damage won't cause them to improve much for lower skill brackets.** It's why Sej's and Ornn's damage was buffed recently when they were struggling, because if you buff their defense, sustain, CC, any actual aspect of a tank, then they will stay the same for lower skill levels (where people can't or don't know how to take advantage of those strengths to their proper capacity) while also making them extremely strong in higher elo and organized play (where people *do* know how to use those strengths).
isn't it contradictory to the fact that riot is balancing stuff around high elo /pro play? so which is it??
: Pyke bounty will immedietly be given to you. And consumables from klepto will instantly be used. Including potions at full hp and wards past the ward cap. The ward will also break your last placed if you already have the max amount down.
thanks for the clarification man i thought so but i wanted a confirmation since a teammate said you would lose them.. i got paranoied ever since
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZhEwA3Nu,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-02T07:22:36.356+0000) > > uhmm this would have been more interesting if you listed the reasoning behind your math > > like, why? Everyone should know what items reduce stats by what amount. Black cleaver - 24% Last whisper - 20% Void staff - 40% Sorc shoes - 18 flat All built in every game.
i see, thanks
: Is Kill Stealing a Thing?
well, 9 times out of 10 kill stealing isn't a thing.. it's just the other player that is salty but, in the remaining case.. it could be.. like imagine jumping on a fight and last hitting an enemy that you know would be killed aniways by your teammate that bringed him down, after a succesfull engage.. and imagine you being a support player.. in that case the right move would be let him get the kill, so, kill stealing could be a thing in certain scenarios
: Why tanks suck.
uhmm this would have been more interesting if you listed the reasoning behind your math >Now reduce it by 24%. >Now reduce it by a further 20% >Reduce it by 18. like, why?
LeSpanked (OCE)
: Yes shes STILL strong. Shes one of riots new, overloaded-type champs, whereby they literally give her everything. Burst, sustained damage, mix of damage types, sustain, hard cc, soft cc, poke, tanky, high mobility, like honestly what is she missing? I think if they whacked on stealth she would have EVERYTHING the game offers. From there I suggest they just change the game title to League Of Irelia
i don't know her much, but by looking at her kit, how does she have sustain or soft cc? but yes, new/reworked champs are all kind of overloaded...
Rioter Comments
: What's the counterplay to Urgot?
meh urgot problem is not that he is particularly strong during laning phase.. he is a demigod in teamfights late on..
: So im standing on the same side as yasuo
riot said they are working on it, in the next patches the ability will be renamed in "windcube"
Kazukes (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sOkGWhkn,comment-id=0031,timestamp=2019-04-26T12:53:22.985+0000) > > to be fair tho, that zed is built entirely antitank.. lethality, armor pen, armor shredding.. i thought lethality was for assassins and was less effective on people building armor?
yes at a certain point, since it's basically flat amor pen, that means the more armor you get the less it's effective, compared to percentage armor pen, we should do some math to see when a regular % armor pen item starts to become more effective than a lethality item aniway, that zed has 3 full items against tanks, so my guess is that pretty much any ad based champion would make quick work of a tank with that build
Napoleon3 (EUNE)
: zed vs rammus full build.
to be fair tho, that zed is built entirely antitank.. lethality, armor pen, armor shredding..
Sęraph (NA)
: off meta braum
unfortunately both braum and leona outside of botlane are totally shit tier wanna go try full ap naut, it should be better
BayoNX19 (NA)
: Why is an adc allowed to build an item with +65 armor and still delete everyone?
i swear you guys would complain about soraka jungle being op i mean, we're talking ezreal, the shitty early game no waveclear at all has to land all his shit to do something ezreal, right? yeah, op.. sure.. wtf
: Jesus Christ, just remove Tahm's ally Devour at this point.
the dude has got several big buff, the only nerf is regarding his obnoxius and op devouring mechanic, yet you all complain like it's unplayable now
: I really don't like doing this but whenever i read such a post and see a silver 3 adc main talking about toplane because he inted a few games on yorick i just don't think it's worth even responding to the thread.
well in his thread he said he comes from an era where toplane was blabla so i guess that is only a smurf account and the dude is in fact a veteran toplane, won't you think?
LW0LF817 (NA)
: Marksmen at least have the burden of having to right click on your barrels at the right time, Urgot simply has to be near them with his W on, which isn't uncommon since barrels have to be near him to do any damage.
by the time urgot comes near your barrell to destroy it (meaning it already tickled once or twice) you just unleash another barrell where it stands and chain detonate it for easy damage, i really don't see the issue honestly
: Look RiotGame, Math is my worst Subject in School
akali late game champion?, like most assassins she falls off late, more like mid game
LW0LF817 (NA)
: Gangplank - Urgot interaction balance
then you must think every marksman must be nerfed because they can obliterate your barrels from distance, right?
: I hate playing against Riven
i agree that riven is busted, and is not as hard as riven mains make it out to be you don't need to be a triple cast master to carry with her but, she still has matchups when she loses, for instance you could pick illaoi into riven and watch her dance trying to avoid tentacles after a landed E, while you calmly farm
: This game makes me cry
hey man if i'm not mistaken you main supp, add me i main adc we can duo bot, one less flamer/tilter in your team
: Is Fiora broken or what?
fiora is renowned to be a tank buster you built tank next time go damage, she is very squishy early
Yenn (NA)
: Nasus managed to finish his Trinity Force before the game ended? Guess I'll just die
: If I don't see Urgot nerfs, ACTUAL URGOT NERFS, for patch 9.4, I'm going to lose my collective shit
for what is worth, you can counter him with vayne top, but agreed is pretty busted atm
: Veigar needs a cap on his passive
if i were riot balance team i would give veigar the nasus treatment and say that in low elo players can't cs that good
: I need advice/tips when playing against Zed
another suggestion is to poke him down as much as you can during farming, freeze waves and poke him to death
: https://img.memecdn.com/whoosh_o_1219169.webp
: Another problem who riot keep ignoring and talk shits to me
Gilgayu (NA)
: My personal favorite designers are CT and Squad5 I like CT for his gut. He literally gives all the champions the sickest abilities, and somehow balanced them more or less (yes balance team you guys are amazin) Squad5 made Ornn, Ivern, and Sylas. He is simply revolutionary in terms of champions. His champions are so original that they are never boring to play. ______________ I know it's not really related to this thread, but what are you guys' favorite designers?
> [{quoted}](name=Gilgayu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E4j9aENM,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-01-23T02:25:06.113+0000) > (yes balance team you guys are amazin) not really
: I know how to rework Vi into a viable champion. Passive - Increased from 10% ==> 20% max health shield. Now only blocks the primary damage type of the champion you attacked Q - Now shoots a hookshot onto a wall. Recasting towards a champion causes Vi to lunge towards them E - New effect: After using Excessive Force it can be cast again within 3.5 seconds. Recasting it after 1.5 seconds converts it to true damage. R - Reworked: Instead of knocking the target up, Vi creates an arena around the target that only the target can't move out of. During this she deals % health damage to the target.
more like how to rework her as a broken camille clone
: What if we gave Akali the Azir treatment?
isn't the title of the thread misleading? i mean i agree with you but the "azir treatment" sound like you want to gut her me too i don't understand why are they so obsessed with this damned true stealth i didn't play akali recently after the hard nerf but i heard the new shroud delay makes her nearly unusable.. that's a real pity and it's not like other champions don't have abilities to become untargatable (vlad, fizz, etc, moreover invulnerable!) so in conclusion my opinion is that riot balance team is doing a poor job about it
SanKakU (NA)
: That's a load of crap and you know it. An automatic attack is your champion attacking something without you ordering it to. Only new or casual players automatically attack things. The fact that you came up with this ridiculous psychobabble just goes to show how much of a Riot White Knight you are.
>The fact that you came up with this ridiculous psychobabble just goes to show how much of a Riot White Knight you are. ahaha dude, calm your tits. he just explained to you the term "autoattack" or AA, no need to call him like that try to read that again, and watch some tutorials/guide instead you are talking about an option, that can be disabled in the options , that makes you "automatically autoattack" without issuing the command manually ;) but the term for a simple attack in lol is indeed "autoattack" for the reasons PB4UAME kindly illustrated to you p.s. for instance if you were to google riven fast combo: AA Q MC AA Q MC AA Q MC AA where AA stands for autoattack and MC for move command
DeathR0p3 (EUNE)
: Why every time i want to play yas MY OWN TEAM BANS HIM
i usually don' ban yasuo if my teammate prepick him but most often than not it's the enemy that gets to pick him so i think i'll start banning him aniway.. yeah i'll do that sorry but if you want to play that cancer you should go blindpick, if i'm a mage/adc i don't want anything to do with that shit
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJ0s6K5O,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T10:56:12.410+0000) > > and unless you cheese how would you profit from this "huge advantage" adc have? > > really, adc are in the trash bin right now, getting slapped back and forth in this meta, and this thread arises, claiming that adc are too powerful from the get go. > > just please. by poking your opponent out on the first couple of levels to gain an advantage and get into a position where youre covered by your minion wave and your opponent will lose the all in attempt? why do you think ranged top laners shit on most melee champions so hard? its because they can put a load of pressure on them during the first couple of levels and snowball the lane off that singular advantage.
> [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJ0s6K5O,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-22T11:19:17.113+0000) > > by poking your opponent out on the first couple of levels to gain an advantage and get into a position where youre covered by your minion wave and your opponent will lose the all in attempt? well, adc can poke each other out because they're ranged, so what? you call that "being effective" or "not requiring skill" or "being at advantage respect other classes"? you take any 2 mages bot and you get greatly outpoked so what point are you making here exactly? > why do you think ranged top laners shit on most melee champions so hard? its because they can put a load of pressure on them during the first couple of levels and snowball the lane off that singular advantage. what that has to do with adc being too effective? of course ranged > melee in laning phase
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJ0s6K5O,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-22T10:27:48.758+0000) > > adc effective from level 1 ahhahaha {{champion:236}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:21}} ... actually lvl 1 is exactly where theyre more effective than the majority of the champions in the game. because at lvl 1 everyone only trades with auto attacks, since the earliest to unlock all 3 base abilities is level 3. so naturally level 1 is where having that 1 point in an auto attack steroid and a ranged auto attack is one of the most effective times to play a marksman.
and unless you cheese how would you profit from this "huge advantage" adc have? really, adc are in the trash bin right now, getting slapped back and forth in this meta, and this thread arises, claiming that adc are too powerful from the get go. just please.
GreyfellD (EUW)
: Unpopular Opinion: ADC's used to be an expression of skill
Naalith (NA)
: I have no clue how ADC mains play this role with any regularity.
everytime i see an adc getting killed i just want to hug him
: Is there an ability in the game that you, personally, just can't dodge?
yasuo tornado maybe it has something to do with the fact his hitbox has the size of AN AIRPLANE
: 1 - Focus primarily on csing and punishing enemy mistakes second in lane. 2 - Buy a control ward every time you back (EVERY SINGLE TIME). 3 - Check the map every 30 or so seconds. 4 - Keep track of the enemy jungler. 5 - Build to counter enemy team comp (a lot of crit? Randuins. A lot of overtime/repetitive magic damage? Adaptive Helm) 6 - Make calculated aggressive plays 7 - Focus on objectives. 8 - If you play top lane I recommend taking teleport so you can make tp plays throughout the whole game. 9 - Never flame (I typically just mute all every game so I can focus 100% on the game) 10 - Play snowbally champions so if you get a lead early you can actually push it to carry the game. Getting two kills early game is way more impactful on a champion like Jax than Malphite (unless they’re full ad of course) 11 - Do not, under any circumstance, throw shutdowns. If you’re worth like 1k gold you need to be extremely careful of dying cause giving that to the wrong enemy can literally throw the game.
oh i see, thanks for that i see a lot of streamers and korean replays so i think i've got the basics down, in theory at least, but i don't understand a thing about buying control wards i usually buy plenty but a lot of them goes to waste since a new ward replace the other.. in that case if the ward is well positioned i should conserve the new one, right?
: If you've stacked it up or it's a Ranked game. Otherwise it's like 5 minutes. Regardless, waiting 20 minutes vs a death threat.
holy shit, it's an analogy / figure of speech, nobody is saying a game of league of legends is like being held hostage to a bank robber my. fucking. god. you. guys.
Saezio (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ms4axerF,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-21T16:06:53.935+0000) > > it's not that i found you rude, not at all > > but you and the 2 other guys above are debating about the term that perfectly describe the situation, so i have no idea what are you contesting.. alt+f4 triggers a punishment and you know that so i think you're trolling. It does not trigger any punishment. Not that I am aware of. I have left at least 10 games out of necessity over the past 10 years in league and I never got any punishment. Only if you have left a lot of games in a small amount of time.
so what? it may trigger a punishment, so the term hostage fits. just like it may trigger a punishment if you were to run away from a robber keeping you hostage
Saezio (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Prepuzius,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ms4axerF,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-21T15:48:17.723+0000) > > are you for real? Of course I am. Let me be clear I do not endorse the behaviour of OP's team, I find it punishable, they are intentionally ruining their teammates game. I am only disagreeing with the term "hostage". I do not find it that hard to believe that different people from different places define words differently and want to debate about it. I don't think I was rude and if I came across as such I apologise, it was not my intention.
it's not that i found you rude, not at all but you and the 2 other guys above are debating about the term that perfectly describe the situation, so i have no idea what are you contesting.. alt+f4 triggers a punishment and you know that so i think you're trolling.
: I GOT PERMA BANNED.........................................
dude that was the most toxic log i read in a while, where the fuck do you find the gall to even complain about it? just get the fuck out
Saezio (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ms4axerF,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T05:39:28.874+0000) > > hos·​tage | \ ˈhä-stij \ > Definition of hostage > 1a : a person held by one party in a conflict as a pledge pending the fulfillment of an agreement > b : a person taken by force to secure the taker's demands > 2 :**_ one that is involuntarily controlled by an outside influence_** Are they controlled though? My guess is they can still alt+F4. their actions are not controlled, they are merely not allowed to que-up again until the match is over. You should look up "involuntarily controlled" if you are going to be all dictionarey about it.
: Those that have a bad day do say it, they do say it was their bad for making a mistake and they 100% of the time do work on it during the same game. They sometimes still do poorly but you can see they cooperate and do the best they can to help, they communicate and they bring plans to the table because they want to win. When someone just doesn't give a damn they behave like neanderthals during the game and they flame and insult others. It's that simple, mate...
so if i'm having a bad game but i'm grumpy and i don't chat and i mostly farm in order to scale, i'm automatically a soft inter?
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