: Question: How exactly do you define a "western inspired" character? Because how I see it, we have alot. But maybe they don't get recognised as such as often. Some examples of what I mean. {{champion:36}} Based on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, which is a story by a Scottish author. {{champion:112}} Tesla reference. {{champion:516}} Mix of Northern mythology and some Hephaistos. {{champion:12}} Minotaur, so Greek mythology. {{champion:2}} Fricking viking. {{champion:91}} Assassins creed for LoL. {{champion:80}} Spartan.
>{{champion:2}} Fricking viking. Vikings didn't had thorns on their helmets actually, that's Hollywood bullshit
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4kRdwIM,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-22T01:03:15.818+0000) > > Hold on these are great news, it means that ER reaches 30% cdr with enough crit, IE has 250% crit, not 225% and that FleetF can crit again. > > Cant wait to see it on the PBE I should've said partial revert for both but I guessed people would pick up on the net gain of 100 gold cheaper for botrk and main crit items old style passive returning. What I meant is crit chance scales better and IE is a better item spike again, true damage on crit was useless as most enemies didn't have enough resists to be worth it and if they did you still needed a last whisper item bec7ase those where probably tanks who where tickled by the rest of the auto. IE old value of 250%crit was OP because they came online too soon for the main late game class and thank goodness they didn't bring back the full value with the plethora of compensation buffs crit adc received. I miss old essence reaver it had a unique condition for its cdr now its just another item with cdr tacked on.
You are wrong, the 10% true dmg convert of last IE was better than the 225% crit we have now, true dmg is such a powerful weapon. The reason why crit items are better now it's because Zeal items are back to 2600g, when they first put the changes on the PBE they only -partially- reverted IE and ER and overall it would have been a nerf to the crit builds, only when they put Zeal items back to 2600g it was a real buff. And I can see that you are aware that it hasn't been a total revert and dont get me wrong, I'm not asking for it, but it drives me crazy when ppl pretend that it has been a total revert because, well, it's just not what happened.
BayoNX19 (NA)
: Why is an adc allowed to build an item with +65 armor and still delete everyone?
Wait, I would understand to complain about Ezreal some.patches ago but now ???
Moody P (NA)
: I also cannot wait for CertainlyT's rework on Volibear. Very excited :)
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eeU1WWHM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-22T10:53:39.159+0000) > > I also cannot wait for CertainlyT's rework on Volibear. Very excited :) ADC Volibear, cant wait
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Adcs that don't heal their supports
Sometimes it's not worth Sometimes the adc doesn't heal because he's bad. Either way, it's not player behaviour I think
BayoNX19 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=titAEhhy,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-21T12:45:03.639+0000) > > Nah, I still love playing MF, I cant relate mf is great for teamfights, but if your team cant lock people down, say an {{champion:81}} blinks to you and one shots you, you become useless.
Yeah...trust me that I've played a lot MF and Ezreal is the least of her problems But I play with a Braum main who is my friend and we literally cheer when the enemy midlaner picks a Talón or a Zed because I can buy Tabis - BCleaver and damm it's so easy to counter assasins.
: Eh...it's a bit debatable that Irelia is balanced rn, but is she balanced compared to when she was in her prime? Yes. Other strong picks in the meta ATM kinda take a dump on her, so if they got hit with some decent nerfs, we'd be able to judge how good she actually is.
I do, since they removed her disarm and made her W only against phisical dmg she has been balanced.
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4kRdwIM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-21T18:38:16.514+0000) > > They literslly just nerfed BoTRK... They just reverted it, just like they reverted crit changes they took away a tweak that was compensation for crit being weaker early. Still 100 gold cheaper than 8.11 price. Just like the Zed "nerf" was a partial revert, he's still overall stronger than he was before reap was removed.
>They just reverted it, just like they reverted crit changes Hold on these are great news, it means that ER reaches 30% cdr with enough crit, IE has 250% crit, not 225% and that FleetF can crit again. Cant wait to see it on the PBE
Zaltenos (EUW)
: Unfair Club Name and Club Tag Reset
: I mean, yeah, but at the same time he wasn't super godlike like he's been recently in pro.
Man I remember him being busted along with {{champion:222}} back on freaking S5 Worlds. Outside of the Ardent Meta, we have seen him being one of the best supps constantly on pro play for years and years and years
: Ashe Tahm Kench. One of the many reasons why Kench boi is being nerfed (rip).
Tahm has been a nightmare for balance in terms of pro play since forever
: want long answer or short answer?
Long, I also love long comments
: i feel no matter what i do i just keep getting worse and worse playing league.
I see that you are Bronze 1, I have the perfect ADC to get out of that elo: Let me present you {{champion:21}} : You take this build https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/es/c/gameplay-balance/rhmjri1M-best-build-for-miss-fortune?comment=0003 and you will win games easy, anything you want to ask me go ahead.
The Hand (NA)
: Making a post everyday until Ascension comes back. Day 1
Downvoting your post until you stop. Day 1
gElva (EUW)
: I am being matched people who are affecting my performance and there's nothing I can do about it.
: Riot should be more careful with reworks.
{{champion:39}} rework was problematic but they balanced her, she's not a problem anymore. {{champion:266}} and {{champion:84}} are still problematic however
: that ain't gonna happen. i will not go down the rabbit hole known as ranked. and nothing you say or do will make me change my mind.
Okay, you are against playing ranked and I wont try to change that: can you explain me why so i can understand your point of view?
: translate: this dude is not a meta slave. ignore him.
I mean, prove that you can climb on rankeds with that build and I will start to think that maybe it's a good build. I would love to see it
: i didn't say {{item:3004}} first now did i? i said {{item:3072}} first. you build up to {{item:3070}} and by the time you finish {{item:3072}} you should have 100 or so mana charged.
Okay, I maybe try that on a normal game but it's actually the worst MF build I've ever seen. Which items do you buy later ?
Kamille W (EUW)
: That's true. I queue fill primarily. I get support something like 40% of the time and the other times I get the other roles except for mid lane.
Midlane has always been and will always be the most popular role in the game
: 2 of my favorite adcs {{champion:202}} and {{champion:22}} Feel clunky as hell to play as, Every other fucking game it's {{champion:18}} {{champion:67}} or {{champion:145}} With their utility and hyper mobility it's nothing short of frustrating to play against. Not to mention {{champion:67}} is a brain dead champion now and her interaction with {{item:3124}} compounds her issues. I'm sorry to say this, and I've joined this bandwagon along time ago. If it's not flash and sparkly it's probably shit. This isn't the case for everything but it's the case for most. Vayne will continue to stay relevant as long as she has a prestige skin, same for kai'sa and same for Ahri. Riot knows who their cash cows are and they know what they need to do in order to keep that sweet sweet money coming in.
Imagine playing Ashe Jhin and thinking that other champs are buffed to sell skins LMAO Look the champs you are playing please
: Same. I just adore Jhin but he isn't safe at all. You can't escape when you realize you are losing a fight. Plus you have no chance of escaping if a Vayne is following you. Winning a 1v1 as {{champion:202}} against {{champion:67}} has literally nothing to do with your skill level. If you do win, it's because enemy Vayne is a shit player.
No shit why would Jhin have a root from a screen away plus his ultimate and also win against a Vayne on a 1vs1 that btw the vast majority of adcs lose ?
: my favorite thing right now is when u can be 7 0 jhin and a fucking 0 2 udyr can still 1v1 u jhin feels awful like a bunch of adcs never been a meta slave never will be so i just see my self playing this game less and less riven and vanye are always on my ban list
If you have problems in performing as Jhin you are the one to blame, the champ is fine.
: She still has a sizeable.......movespeed booster.
MF lacks seelf peel and has no mobility, extra ms that goes away with a single caster minion hit it's not the same than having a jump or a dash. I'm not complaining about MF being immobile, I love her the way her kit is, but she is immobile.
Naymliss (NA)
: I haven't played ashe much this season, but if you're having issues with jhin it's 100% on your positioning
Ashe is great on soloQ right now, and so is Jinx btw
The E77 (EUW)
: dont forget {{champion:24}} {{champion:518}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:58}}
You know that {{champion:518}} only has a stealth right,? That's neither a jump or a dash
azazxer (NA)
: This statement is false, lol
Critty92 (EUNE)
: Which roles deserve buffs the most?
None. I rather go for nerfing mages such as Vladimir Ryze Kennen Zoe instead of buffing other classes. And making it so {{item:3311}} {{item:3308}} lanes dont work.
Saezio (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YohVcMEG,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-21T15:50:22.646+0000) > > Sounds about right that an Artillery mage would be complaining about a fighter who can get to them. Sounds about right that an Irelia main would find her balanced. Not that she is busted or anything, just saying you wouldn't call for her to be nerfed if she was in the top 5% of champions.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YohVcMEG,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-04-21T15:56:02.146+0000) > > Sounds about right that an Irelia main would find her balanced. > > Not that she is busted or anything, just saying you wouldn't call for her to be nerfed if she was in the top 5% of champions. I find her balanced and I'm a totally unbiased MF main. ~~Haha no one will ever know that Irelia is my most non-ADC played champ~~
Nhika (NA)
: Bot lane feeding shouldn't be ending the game
If a Toplaner gets 10 deaths it's gamer over too
: Rank shaming btw
I mean, if you dont want low elo advices dont ask on the Boards, simple as that
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rhmjri1M,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-21T16:06:52.502+0000) > > Well, you know what's the best way for {{champion:21}} to deal with tanky frontlines? {{item:3153}} > > And yeah, by your name it seems that you are Quinn main, but for the Icon I'm gonna guess that you got GGMF on a chest recently. > > Am I right? Exact. I like Mf but I can't get the grasp of how to build her.
Bah I tried 2 games of CritFortune and it feels really bad, trust me: If you are looking for a good MF build go {{item:3153}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3071}} and then whatever you want
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rhmjri1M,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-21T15:28:27.387+0000) > > I was a fan of CritFortune with the old crit items that only ppl that dont play ADC thinks that have been reverted. > > > The main reason why I dont run CritFortune (and why looking at the data on numerous websites almost nobody plays) it's because {{item:3508}} looks like the old {{item:3508}} but it isn't. > > This ER is a shitty first item, if you look at the old ER users as {{champion:22}} you notice that she runs {{item:3153}} as first item, {{champion:15}} has like a 50% first item {{item:3508}} and 50% {{item:3031}}, same goes to {{champion:498}}. Those are just other examples that confirm that for X reasons ER it's not the first item for caster crit ADCs that it was, why does that happen? maybe because old ER could reach a 30% cdr, because it was made with a {{item:1038}} and also because crit itself was better. > > The reason why I dont play CritFortune (and no one does tbh) it's because {{item:3508}} it's not a good first item and if you go that way and then buy {{item:3094}} you are buying 2 whole items (3200g+2600g) with just 65 AD (and no armor pen). That means that your ultimate will be near useless on the time that you should be stomping the game as MF. > > Your build it's not useless, but it's far from optimal. > > The best advice I can give you if you want to play CritFortune it's to not play a pure crit build, pure crit MF worked when crit itself was strong, that's why it doesn't work anymore. > > Right now the combo of PtA and {{item:3153}} rush as I explained on the other comment it's by far the strongest combination of MF and all her builds will be around that, try playing that with {{item:3031}} as second item into {{item:3094}}. Then you can decide to go {{item:3071}} if you feel that you are able to cast good ultimates based on both team comps or grab a {{item:3072}} to do your best MF hipercarry impression, more aa focused. > > If the game goes to ultra lategame the you can buy {{item:3508}} to reach 75% crit, but doing it before I dont think it's worth due to it's low AD. > > However, if you insist in playing full crit there's one thing you must change at least: rush {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}} instead of {{item:3508}} {{item:3094}}, the difference it's huge because in this way you wont lack the AD on the part of the game that you lack if in your first 2 items you only have 65 ad. Other thing you must consider is, if you are gonna pick the 3 {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3094}} and then {{item:3071}} think about picking up Legend: Bloodline instead of Alscrity to not lack sustain, hell, in fact I'm gonna try this build right now on a normal, but as I said, the BotrK is probably still better and I think I'll stick to that build to try reaching Diamond for the end of the next Split. > > It's always a pleasure to talk about MF builds with a fellow MF main. Im not a MF main but I'm trying different build but I feel like I lack damage. In my elo people tend to only play carry and I end up a walkiing duck as enemy team always bring 2 tanky front line.
Well, you know what's the best way for {{champion:21}} to deal with tanky frontlines? {{item:3153}} And yeah, by your name it seems that you are Quinn main, but for the Icon I'm gonna guess that you got GGMF on a chest recently. Am I right?
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rhmjri1M,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-04-21T15:33:13.624+0000) > > Hey I'm offended by this comment, I'm the most MF builds and strats apassionated on the Boards. > > @Busty Demoness fight me @_@ atting someone 1v1 each other now. did not mean to offend a fellow mf player uwu
Just joking, and I know that Busty Demoness had *way* more mastery points on MF than me, I gotta grind to catch him/her
Kalikain (NA)
: Nerf Irelia
{{champion:39}} is a perfectly balanced and designed champ that deserves only our love and respect
: I CALL UPON BUSTY DEMONESS TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION!!!! imo critfortune ftw. crit fortune imo is the most fun but the most effective is lethality mf imo. but we cant confirm until busty demoness answers this as she is the miss fortune main of these boards. kinda like i am the kat main of these boards.
Hey I'm offended by this comment, I'm the most MF builds and strats apassionated on the Boards. @Busty Demoness fight me
: > [{quoted}](name=Inkling Commando,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rhmjri1M,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-21T08:45:42.994+0000) > > well early game she gets very mana hungry so always buy a {{item:1027}} which you can build into either {{item:3004}} or {{item:3110}} . {{item:3072}} is a key item for her. get it first. {{item:3006}} is also important. from there it's free reigns. thats probably as good as full armor tank katarina, a.k.a. trash. xd your match history with miss fortune on that build proves that thats a horrible build. also i promise you i have NEVER in my life a single mf worry about mana. xd
{{champion:55}} {{item:3083}} never forget S4
: > [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rhmjri1M,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-21T11:16:41.134+0000) > > 300K MF main here: > > Runes: PressTheAtack - Overheal/Triumph (both are good) - Alacrity - Coup de Grace ///// Magical footwear - Biscuits (second you can go Scorecy with Mana Band - Gathering Storm to have worse early and better scaling, I prefer this) > > Build: {{item:3153}} into {{item:3142}} into {{item:3147}} /{{item:3071}} that's the core build, this part changes depending on the game, if you see that you are against no tanks go full lethality and armor pen with {{item:3814}} {{item:3036}} , if you need a QSS pick up {{item:3139}} , if there's a more tanky enemy team go {{item:3094}} {{item:3031}} , if you are being exploded in the fights take a {{item:3072}} > > Explanation: The main reason why PressTheAtack and {{item:3153}} rush works it's because {{champion:21}} Q counts as an AA for both, and in a really short trade you can do AA + Q instant canceling the animation + another AA. In this way you have procced in a moment the {{item:3153}} on hit efect 3 times and you have procced the PressTheAtack already. You also need to notice that MF W is a massive atack speed bonus that is often ignored as a threat since her base AD is so low, but with the {{item:3153}} you will have a better time going against tanky ppl and, which is really important for an ADC, farming the Jng camps in the midgame which is awful with a full lethality build. > > Now, if you want my exactly build, the one that I used to reach Plat with over 70% winrate some weeks ago it's exactly this one: > > {{item:3153}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3071}} ( I drop the {{item:3147}} , I dont like that item at all) then {{item:3094}} and then I decide if I need to survive more, in that case I pick {{item:3072}} or if my team needs a soft hipercarry, in that case I pick {{item:3031}} > > > You can see my OPGG here https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=saltran , if you have any question more about MF I would be glad to answer What about Crit Mf ? Do you think my build could work ? {{item:3508}} {{item:3094}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3071}} and last item depend of what you need . Sustain {{item:3080}} {{item:3812}} . Defense {{item:3026}} {{item:3156}} {{item:3139}} or more penetration {{item:3036}} {{item:3033}} . You have 40% cdr, mana refund and good damage from black cleaver plus your ult use the crit enhancement since you have 75% crit rate so both your spell and basic attack hurt. I run PtA as runes.
I was a fan of CritFortune with the old crit items that only ppl that dont play ADC thinks that have been reverted. The main reason why I dont run CritFortune (and why looking at the data on numerous websites almost nobody plays) it's because {{item:3508}} looks like the old {{item:3508}} but it isn't. This ER is a shitty first item, if you look at the old ER users as {{champion:22}} you notice that she runs {{item:3153}} as first item, {{champion:15}} has like a 50% first item {{item:3508}} and 50% {{item:3031}}, same goes to {{champion:498}}. Those are just other examples that confirm that for X reasons ER it's not the first item for caster crit ADCs that it was, why does that happen? maybe because old ER could reach a 30% cdr, because it was made with a {{item:1038}} and also because crit itself was better. The reason why I dont play CritFortune (and no one does tbh) it's because {{item:3508}} it's not a good first item and if you go that way and then buy {{item:3094}} you are buying 2 whole items (3200g+2600g) with just 65 AD (and no armor pen). That means that your ultimate will be near useless on the time that you should be stomping the game as MF. Your build it's not useless, but it's far from optimal. The best advice I can give you if you want to play CritFortune it's to not play a pure crit build, pure crit MF worked when crit itself was strong, that's why it doesn't work anymore. Right now the combo of PtA and {{item:3153}} rush as I explained on the other comment it's by far the strongest combination of MF and all her builds will be around that, try playing that with {{item:3031}} as second item into {{item:3094}}. Then you can decide to go {{item:3071}} if you feel that you are able to cast good ultimates based on both team comps or grab a {{item:3072}} to do your best MF hipercarry impression, more aa focused. If the game goes to ultra lategame the you can buy {{item:3508}} to reach 75% crit, but doing it before I dont think it's worth due to it's low AD. However, if you insist in playing full crit there's one thing you must change at least: rush {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}} instead of {{item:3508}} {{item:3094}}, the difference it's huge because in this way you wont lack the AD on the part of the game that you lack if in your first 2 items you only have 65 ad. Other thing you must consider is, if you are gonna pick the 3 {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3094}} and then {{item:3071}} think about picking up Legend: Bloodline instead of Alscrity to not lack sustain, hell, in fact I'm gonna try this build right now on a normal, but as I said, the BotrK is probably still better and I think I'll stick to that build to try reaching Diamond for the end of the next Split. It's always a pleasure to talk about MF builds with a fellow MF main.
: Playing immobile champs in this game feels like shiit.
Nah, I still love playing MF, I cant relate
: do you say that to all M7 players?
To all the ones that recommend to play {{item:3043}} or {{item:3110}} MF sure
: It kind of does but Muramana builds are viable on her. They actually do more damage to tanks than Botrk Builds. It just creates windows on inconsistency while the Muramana is charging.
I cant even find data of the stats of Muramana MF due to how marginal it's playrate is and I havent seen it even once on any game, based on what do you say that it's viable on her? >They actually do more damage to tanks than Botrk Builds. But this is 100% false without having even played it once. I'll maybe try it on a normal game since I dont want to int on a ranked with that build, what more do you buy on that imaginary build that you think it's viable on MF ? Muramana first item, then what ?
: well early game she gets very mana hungry so always buy a {{item:1027}} which you can build into either {{item:3004}} or {{item:3110}} . {{item:3072}} is a key item for her. get it first. {{item:3006}} is also important. from there it's free reigns.
No offense Sir, but your build kinda sucks.
Zurman14 (EUNE)
: Best build for Miss Fortune?
300K MF main here: Runes: PressTheAtack - Overheal/Triumph (both are good) - Alacrity - Coup de Grace ///// Magical footwear - Biscuits (second you can go Scorecy with Mana Band - Gathering Storm to have worse early and better scaling, I prefer this) Build: {{item:3153}} into {{item:3142}} into {{item:3147}} /{{item:3071}} that's the core build, this part changes depending on the game, if you see that you are against no tanks go full lethality and armor pen with {{item:3814}} {{item:3036}} , if you need a QSS pick up {{item:3139}} , if there's a more tanky enemy team go {{item:3094}} {{item:3031}} , if you are being exploded in the fights take a {{item:3072}} Explanation: The main reason why PressTheAtack and {{item:3153}} rush works it's because {{champion:21}} Q counts as an AA for both, and in a really short trade you can do AA + Q instant canceling the animation + another AA. In this way you have procced in a moment the {{item:3153}} on hit efect 3 times and you have procced the PressTheAtack already. You also need to notice that MF W is a massive atack speed bonus that is often ignored as a threat since her base AD is so low, but with the {{item:3153}} you will have a better time going against tanky ppl and, which is really important for an ADC, farming the Jng camps in the midgame which is awful with a full lethality build. Now, if you want my exactly build, the one that I used to reach Plat with over 70% winrate some weeks ago it's exactly this one: {{item:3153}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3071}} ( I drop the {{item:3147}} , I dont like that item at all) then {{item:3094}} and then I decide if I need to survive more, in that case I pick {{item:3072}} or if my team needs a soft hipercarry, in that case I pick {{item:3031}} You can see my OPGG here https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=saltran , if you have any question more about MF I would be glad to answer
: My attempt to draw Battle Bunny Miss Fortune for Easter
I aprove this. You can post it on r/MissFortunemains
: Just played promo. Our premade bot consist of ryze and lulu. They ended up 2/19. My jungler called them morons and wished them irl death. I usually report this kind of behavior but this time I didn't. I honored him. It's possible to climb but it takes way more time than it used to be. If you have enough time for grind and you are good enoigh you will actually climb. But it will take you more matches.
Don't play Mage botlanes, only villains do that.
: Riot's New Logo - I actually like it
Bazerka (NA)
: Thank you everyone
No u {{sticker:sg-jinx}}
y0r1ck (NA)
: Sona/Taric and Funneling Should Stay, Riot Should Pump the Brakes
Gut it, make it so double supp item lanes cant work
squ1shyy (EUNE)
: New skins
I hope that Rakan and Xayah dont get a skin for a while, and then, they should give them a legendary skin at the same time
Wuks (NA)
: REMINDER - Ranked 2019 Split 1 ends Sunday, April 21, 2019
Lmfao my duo and me thought that the rankeds would be reseted, but it's only those meaningless rewards.
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