>{{champion:2}} Fricking viking. Vikings didn't had thorns on their helmets actually, that's Hollywood bullshit

You are wrong, the 10% true dmg convert of last IE was better than the 225% crit we have now, true dmg is such a powerful weapon. The reason why crit items are better now it's because Zeal items are back to 2600g, when they first put the changes on the PBE they only -partially- reverted IE and ER and overall it would have been a nerf to the crit builds, only when they put Zeal items back to 2600g it was a real buff. And I can see that you are aware that it hasn't been a total revert and dont get me wrong, I'm not asking for it, but it drives me crazy when ppl pretend that it has been a total revert because, well, it's just not what happened.

Wait, I would understand to complain about Ezreal some.patches ago but now ???

> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eeU1WWHM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-22T10:53:39.159+0000) > > I also cannot wait for CertainlyT's rework on Volibear. Very excited :) ADC Volibear, cant wait

Sometimes it's not worth Sometimes the adc doesn't heal because he's bad. Either way, it's not player behaviour I think

Yeah...trust me that I've played a lot MF and Ezreal is the least of her problems But I play with a Braum main who is my friend and we literally cheer when the enemy midlaner picks a Talón or a Zed because I can buy Tabis - BCleaver and damm it's so easy to counter assasins.

I do, since they removed her disarm and made her W only against phisical dmg she has been balanced.

>They just reverted it, just like they reverted crit changes Hold on these are great news, it means that ER reaches 30% cdr with enough crit, IE has 250% crit, not 225% and that FleetF can crit again. Cant wait to see it on the PBE

Good riddance

Man I remember him being busted along with {{champion:222}} back on freaking S5 Worlds. Outside of the Ardent Meta, we have seen him being one of the best supps constantly on pro play for years and years and years

Tahm has been a nightmare for balance in terms of pro play since forever

Long, I also love long comments

I see that you are Bronze 1, I have the perfect ADC to get out of that elo: Let me present you {{champion:21}} : You take this build https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/es/c/gameplay-balance/rhmjri1M-best-build-for-miss-fortune?comment=0003 and you will win games easy, anything you want to ask me go ahead.

Downvoting your post until you stop. Day 1

Nah, it's not your teammates, it's your skill

{{champion:39}} rework was problematic but they balanced her, she's not a problem anymore. {{champion:266}} and {{champion:84}} are still problematic however

Okay, you are against playing ranked and I wont try to change that: can you explain me why so i can understand your point of view?

I mean, prove that you can climb on rankeds with that build and I will start to think that maybe it's a good build. I would love to see it

Okay, I maybe try that on a normal game but it's actually the worst MF build I've ever seen. Which items do you buy later ?

Midlane has always been and will always be the most popular role in the game

Imagine playing Ashe Jhin and thinking that other champs are buffed to sell skins LMAO Look the champs you are playing please

No shit why would Jhin have a root from a screen away plus his ultimate and also win against a Vayne on a 1vs1 that btw the vast majority of adcs lose ?

If you have problems in performing as Jhin you are the one to blame, the champ is fine.

MF lacks seelf peel and has no mobility, extra ms that goes away with a single caster minion hit it's not the same than having a jump or a dash. I'm not complaining about MF being immobile, I love her the way her kit is, but she is immobile.

Ashe is great on soloQ right now, and so is Jinx btw

You know that {{champion:518}} only has a stealth right,? That's neither a jump or a dash

But Crossbow woman bad tho

None. I rather go for nerfing mages such as Vladimir Ryze Kennen Zoe instead of buffing other classes. And making it so {{item:3311}} {{item:3308}} lanes dont work.

> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=YohVcMEG,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-04-21T15:56:02.146+0000) > > Sounds about right that an Irelia main would find her balanced. > > Not that she is busted or anything, just saying you wouldn't call for her to be nerfed if she was in the top 5% of champions. I find her balanced and I'm a totally unbiased MF main. ~~Haha no one will ever know that Irelia is my most non-ADC played champ~~

If a Toplaner gets 10 deaths it's gamer over too

I mean, if you dont want low elo advices dont ask on the Boards, simple as that

Bah I tried 2 games of CritFortune and it feels really bad, trust me: If you are looking for a good MF build go {{item:3153}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3071}} and then whatever you want

Well, you know what's the best way for {{champion:21}} to deal with tanky frontlines? {{item:3153}} And yeah, by your name it seems that you are Quinn main, but for the Icon I'm gonna guess that you got GGMF on a chest recently. Am I right?

Just joking, and I know that Busty Demoness had *way* more mastery points on MF than me, I gotta grind to catch him/her

{{champion:39}} is a perfectly balanced and designed champ that deserves only our love and respect

Hey I'm offended by this comment, I'm the most MF builds and strats apassionated on the Boards. @Busty Demoness fight me

{{champion:55}} {{item:3083}} never forget S4

I was a fan of CritFortune with the old crit items that only ppl that dont play ADC thinks that have been reverted. The main reason why I dont run CritFortune (and why looking at the data on numerous websites almost nobody plays) it's because {{item:3508}} looks like the old {{item:3508}} but it isn't. This ER is a shitty first item, if you look at the old ER users as {{champion:22}} you notice that she runs {{item:3153}} as first item, {{champion:15}} has like a 50% first item {{item:3508}} and 50% {{item:3031}}, same goes to {{champion:498}}. Those are just other examples that confirm that for X reasons ER it's not the first item for caster crit ADCs that it was, why does that happen? maybe because old ER could reach a 30% cdr, because it was made with a {{item:1038}} and also because crit itself was better. The reason why I dont play CritFortune (and no one does tbh) it's because {{item:3508}} it's not a good first item and if you go that way and then buy {{item:3094}} you are buying 2 whole items (3200g+2600g) with just 65 AD (and no armor pen). That means that your ultimate will be near useless on the time that you should be stomping the game as MF. Your build it's not useless, but it's far from optimal. The best advice I can give you if you want to play CritFortune it's to not play a pure crit build, pure crit MF worked when crit itself was strong, that's why it doesn't work anymore. Right now the combo of PtA and {{item:3153}} rush as I explained on the other comment it's by far the strongest combination of MF and all her builds will be around that, try playing that with {{item:3031}} as second item into {{item:3094}}. Then you can decide to go {{item:3071}} if you feel that you are able to cast good ultimates based on both team comps or grab a {{item:3072}} to do your best MF hipercarry impression, more aa focused. If the game goes to ultra lategame the you can buy {{item:3508}} to reach 75% crit, but doing it before I dont think it's worth due to it's low AD. However, if you insist in playing full crit there's one thing you must change at least: rush {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}} instead of {{item:3508}} {{item:3094}}, the difference it's huge because in this way you wont lack the AD on the part of the game that you lack if in your first 2 items you only have 65 ad. Other thing you must consider is, if you are gonna pick the 3 {{item:3508}} {{item:3031}} {{item:3094}} and then {{item:3071}} think about picking up Legend: Bloodline instead of Alscrity to not lack sustain, hell, in fact I'm gonna try this build right now on a normal, but as I said, the BotrK is probably still better and I think I'll stick to that build to try reaching Diamond for the end of the next Split. It's always a pleasure to talk about MF builds with a fellow MF main.

Nah, I still love playing MF, I cant relate

To all the ones that recommend to play {{item:3043}} or {{item:3110}} MF sure

I cant even find data of the stats of Muramana MF due to how marginal it's playrate is and I havent seen it even once on any game, based on what do you say that it's viable on her? >They actually do more damage to tanks than Botrk Builds. But this is 100% false without having even played it once. I'll maybe try it on a normal game since I dont want to int on a ranked with that build, what more do you buy on that imaginary build that you think it's viable on MF ? Muramana first item, then what ?

No offense Sir, but your build kinda sucks.

300K MF main here: Runes: PressTheAtack - Overheal/Triumph (both are good) - Alacrity - Coup de Grace ///// Magical footwear - Biscuits (second you can go Scorecy with Mana Band - Gathering Storm to have worse early and better scaling, I prefer this) Build: {{item:3153}} into {{item:3142}} into {{item:3147}} /{{item:3071}} that's the core build, this part changes depending on the game, if you see that you are against no tanks go full lethality and armor pen with {{item:3814}} {{item:3036}} , if you need a QSS pick up {{item:3139}} , if there's a more tanky enemy team go {{item:3094}} {{item:3031}} , if you are being exploded in the fights take a {{item:3072}} Explanation: The main reason why PressTheAtack and {{item:3153}} rush works it's because {{champion:21}} Q counts as an AA for both, and in a really short trade you can do AA + Q instant canceling the animation + another AA. In this way you have procced in a moment the {{item:3153}} on hit efect 3 times and you have procced the PressTheAtack already. You also need to notice that MF W is a massive atack speed bonus that is often ignored as a threat since her base AD is so low, but with the {{item:3153}} you will have a better time going against tanky ppl and, which is really important for an ADC, farming the Jng camps in the midgame which is awful with a full lethality build. Now, if you want my exactly build, the one that I used to reach Plat with over 70% winrate some weeks ago it's exactly this one: {{item:3153}} {{item:3142}} {{item:3071}} ( I drop the {{item:3147}} , I dont like that item at all) then {{item:3094}} and then I decide if I need to survive more, in that case I pick {{item:3072}} or if my team needs a soft hipercarry, in that case I pick {{item:3031}} You can see my OPGG here https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=saltran , if you have any question more about MF I would be glad to answer

I aprove this. You can post it on r/MissFortunemains

Don't play Mage botlanes, only villains do that.

We dont do this here

No u {{sticker:sg-jinx}}

Gut it, make it so double supp item lanes cant work

I hope that Rakan and Xayah dont get a skin for a while, and then, they should give them a legendary skin at the same time

Lmfao my duo and me thought that the rankeds would be reseted, but it's only those meaningless rewards.