: Let's talk about Jayce
Balance him for midlane and around him building Tear. He is now not obscenely strong early, he doesn't fall off a cliff, and there are many more skill matchups (for example Syndra)
Arkayed (NA)
: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Ardent the only thing that's better used on the ADC than pretty much everyone else? Your shields on everyone else are just as shieldy. Your heals are just as healy. And if you're playing anything that isn't an enchanter everything you do benefits the whole team equally. Braum can back up a Riven just as well as he can back up a Twitch. Ardent Janna however is *slightly* less effective helping other allies because they can't fully utilize her Ardent.
You are right, but the *slightly* less effective janna is a vast understatement. Is she shields a mage, he gets a shield. If she shields and ADC, he also get a massive AD, onhit, atkspeed and lifesteal. That is iirc 4800 gold value total, which is so much more than *slightly* more effective
: What about morgana e or taric ult? I can't think of ways they can make you deal more damage but I can think of ways they can buff you.
Yeah they can shield and peel for me, but they can do the same to the adc AND he gets extra damage/lifesteal/ect on top of that. That is special treatment there is no reason for them to have, and make them overbearing. For example, why not make Jannas shield grant adaptive AD or AP (whatever u have most of)? Or have an item like ardent censor, but for AP or for tanks?
Madjack01 (EUW)
: The support conundrum: being shackled to the adc
I have also thought a lot about that. When im doing well as a midlaner, it would be nice if the support could buff me up somehow, by for example making me able to oneshot the enemy ADC even through shields - provided i hit my abilities.
Ponderss (NA)
: Why should you be doing the most damage when you can't even be seen from the range you're hitting people from?
I did in season 4, 5 and 6. Was Xerath OP then? The range of Q is 1400, slightly longer than vision range. If you dont have ANY other vision, a ward, a minion, the tank ect, yes then you get hit from out of vision. That situation is very rare in practice though
: Let’s Discuss: Marksmen
Make support items and possibly abilities that buff up other classes. Your ADC doing well? Buy Ardent. Your mage doing well? Buy an item that buffs them in one or more of the following ways: * Buff their AP * Give them 2 seconds of true damage * Buff their projectile speed and casttimes * Buff/refreshes their CDR * Give them a Poppy-like knockback shield Your tank doing well? Buy an item that: * Buffs their HP * Gives them extra resistances based on an enemy you target (example: bind it to your Sion and target the enemy Cassio to give SIon +50 MR) * Give them Tenacity * Increases their CC duration * Buffs their movement speed towards you * Give them "100 % grevious wounds" for a duration, so they can't be healed off Support is extremely powerful right now. But if they can buff ALL teammates, it is more fun for everybody instead of the support just making the ADC invincible, and it gives the support meaningful choices in who to "invest" in
Rioter Comments
Eluvían (EUW)
: When will this "better botlane wins the game" meta end?
This meta is stupid. Game today with me at 18-4 on Xerath and Kayn with 20-5 scores, but vs a very fed Illaoi. But after 30 minutes we are irrelevant, their Vayne could carry teamfights super easily (at 3½ items vs my full build, i can do nothing against her). We had an Ez adc, and that lost us the game cause hes useless (he even got far ahead in lane)
Rioter Comments
: @Meddler, Ez is the only champ really who uses Muramana, are there any plans for the item?
I build it on {{champion:126}} every day in the midlane. It softens his powerspike early but makes you much more relevant lategame
Zed genius (EUNE)
: are you complaining because you couldn't one shot the yasuo by missing half of your abilities?
Im pretty fed and land 3/4 or my kit on a slippery, squishy champion as a fed assassin - and he build 0 HP 0 MR! Yes im complaing.
: But being on the opposite spectrum isn't fun? LUL
Well, if i get to Q-E-W anyone of Fizz they came within 600 range of me... They have had a lot of fun planning, pathing and avoiding excactly that, but as they were unable to, they deserve to die
: Hey look, It's like assassins are not suppose to use their full combo in order to win a fight!
I could easily kill any ADC or mage with no HP and no MR built at that stage of the game, with Q-E-empowered W as Fizz
: Yasuo isn't really an issue right now Also Fiora has the best tank busting of the skirmishers Yasuo's waveclear isn't that good until shiv, you can punish him when he E's in. His split pushing is not that good because his lack of escape if there's no minions. The only thing that makes him not get absolutely destroyed in laning phase is his passive and his 20s cd wall. (Assuming you don't miss yas when he E's)
Yasuo isn't *the biggest* issue right now Only against the very beefiest full armor tanks are Fiora quicker to kill them - 50 % arpen, sustained crits from both Q and AA take tanks down very fast He can clear minionwaves from lvl 2 faster than almost any other champ His splitpushing is fantastic, as he can duel most, and escape via both minions and jgl camps He absolutely destroys nearly any mage, and most assassins midlane (i do miss Yas when his E is down, because he has a 0.5 CD dash to juke my skillshots)
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: yea xerath needs some love and perhaps a rework. thing is his q is way easier to hit than ziggs' and nobody likes playing against him so he's nerfed down every time he becomes relevant.
Please no! I love the champ as he is, has good winrate, and i generally healthy in the game. He can't clear minions all day anymore, and not at all if u have Baron. We are actually a few mains who really enjoy him, and i wouldn't see that gone.
: Xerath should probably get a new passive
I play both champions, Ziggs is safer with more spammable damage. Xerath is the king of poke, higher pick potential and better in mage-matchups. So they are picked in different situations. Xeraths passive balances him vs mid-range champions, so he can't stay in Q-range (1400 units) all day. I dont think he should get a new passive - but if he were to get one, plz give him %magic pen back :)
: You'd have to significantly buff both his abilities and his base numbers if you want to give Yasuo a resource to manage, and I highly, highly doubt you want that. I don't know what this rework will contain, but I can absolutely guarantee it will not contain the kind of resource restrictions people here dream about. His kit simply isn't designed to work with resource costs and thankfully, Riot realizes this even if their players don't.
Is there a real reason he can't have mana costs? That would stop Yasuo in a good matchup (like vs my main {{champion:101}}) to use all his spells continually as soon as they are off CD, especially his E is really dumb - he will use it vs every single minion. If Yasuo went Tear, they could buff his midgame stats a bit in exchange of a nerf on his lategame stats (which i find far too strong)
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3fKafWr0,comment-id=000000020002000000000001,timestamp=2017-06-08T20:46:31.471+0000) > > I actually checked ur matches as well.. In ur last 10 games u had 5 toplane matches. 2 of them u did okay, but got carried (thats fine), but in 3 you were HARDCORE FEEDING. Im sorry to say, but you shouldn't play top at plat elo. Lets look at the pantheon game... Died less then 4 mins in SOLO to a POPPY. HOW?!?!?! It is downright impossible for a single good teammate to carry that. And this wasn't "one bad game", it was 3 out of 5 toplane games (+Olaf and GP game). That is simply disrespectful to your teammates and not fair in any way. I actually think you should be penalized for that. Honestly. Werent those matches like a year ago? Afaik i only played 1 game each month on this acc so i dont decay... Also Pantheon game was like 16 months ago... Also i was penalized for that (kinda). That Pantheon game was my last promo game for plat on this acc (i remember clearly, won 1, lost 1, won 1, dodged 1). I wanted to get ahead early so i flashed on Poppy at her tower to kill her and she outplayed me. I died and since i didnt have TP i fell behind.
Its ur last matches played. Again. u did this feed in THREE of FIVE games. I don't get why you think this is okay. 4 ppl lost 20 LP because they had you top, you did so bad it looks unrealistic to carry even for a Diamond smurf. Inexcusable
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3fKafWr0,comment-id=000000020002000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-08T20:18:52.926+0000) > > If we take my ranked games from most recent: > 1) Alistar game: Viktor boosted (i semi trolled) > 2) Xerath game: 1st time Galio > 5) Ziggs game: Boosted Elise + Graves (graves ADC doesnt work, especially for him) > 7) Ziggs game: 1-7 Darius. Solo lost game > 10) Syndra game: Clearly boosted 2-8 Chogath with 91 cs > 11) Xerath game: Super boosted jgl (and tilted ADC). Graves is bad, and he didnt react at all to bot being 4 man dived, meaning me and Irelia (who was good) couldn't move down in time > 12) Ziggs game: Naut was being boosted by the ADC. Started the game 0-5 but we were able to carry him > 13) Syndra game. Super boosted J4 duoing with Olaf who wasnt bad, but tilted. Almost impossible to win with a boosted jgl these days > > Then follows a couple of good games. But thats 8 out of the last 13 ranked games i played. Some i won, some i lost. Note that in several games i pop off and hard carry. In most games i do good, and only in 3 games do i have negative score, and the worst is 0-3-2. I never have atrocious CS, no dmg dealt or something like that. That means ALL 13 games would have been won if i had a just slightly better team - but because 1 or more ppl were SO BAD they belong in Bronze, 7 were lost. Why can this be allowed? > > The Draven game i ran down mid - and got banned. I only did slightly worse than say, the 2-8 Chogath with 91 CS. 1) Alistar game- Viktor is not boosted. He is unranked. And his flex rank is Silver. U dont get boosted to Silver. U get to 30 to be silver 2) Xerath game: Galio did really good that game 5) Ziggs game: Elise main: Has a decent KDA with her and kill participation. That was his only bad game with Elise lately. 7) Ziggs game: He was laning against Kled who i believe is smurf. He has around 60% winrate and he is really good with Kled 10) Syndra game: Shaco jungle main, he never plays top. Fiora counters him. He faced guy who has 70% winrate on Fiora. None of players you mentioned are boosted or even remotely looks boosted. Graves has been platinum since S2. He always lingered around 50% winrate. Everyone has bad games. How about you? http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3199032233/211899258?tab=overview You trolled as Jax http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3198570136/211899258?tab=overview You trolled as Yasuo http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3195935066/211899258 Clearly trolling http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3120062964/211899258 Trolling http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3120091472/211899258?tab=overview Trolling http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3104625866/211899258?tab=overview Trolling http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3020210830/211899258?tab=overview Trolling Hell, you have countless games where you trolled. You call your teammates "boosted" when they have bad game, but when u are clearly being demolished by better opponents, you dont allow your team to play normally and to try and carry game. You troll game so noone can see how bad you actually are.
Even if ur vs a good player, it doesn't give u free pass to make the game uncarriable. Play safe, as i told the players without flaming. In all the games i decide to troll from start except for the Jax game. She was pushing me in for 5 minutes. My jgl is AFK. She makes a mistake, im finally able to jump on her, and in that SECOND their jgl is there. And from that she could just tower dive me, so i knew it was GG. To show my... unstatisfaction... with my jungler i trolled rest of game Otherwise i almost never play other than 4-6 comfort picks in ranked, which mean im never 100 % useless.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3fKafWr0,comment-id=0000000200020000,timestamp=2017-06-07T21:28:48.838+0000) > > Until you watch their match history, with only wins on Lee (for example) with insane scores. Suddenly this guy "forgets" to play Lee, plays totally different champs and has very bad scores even in wins. > > Happens at least every 2nd game. No it doesnt. Neither in your match history nor in mine.
I actually checked ur matches as well.. In ur last 10 games u had 5 toplane matches. 2 of them u did okay, but got carried (thats fine), but in 3 you were HARDCORE FEEDING. Im sorry to say, but you shouldn't play top at plat elo. Lets look at the pantheon game... Died less then 4 mins in SOLO to a POPPY. HOW?!?!?! It is downright impossible for a single good teammate to carry that. And this wasn't "one bad game", it was 3 out of 5 toplane games (+Olaf and GP game). That is simply disrespectful to your teammates and not fair in any way. I actually think you should be penalized for that. Honestly.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3fKafWr0,comment-id=0000000200020000,timestamp=2017-06-07T21:28:48.838+0000) > > Until you watch their match history, with only wins on Lee (for example) with insane scores. Suddenly this guy "forgets" to play Lee, plays totally different champs and has very bad scores even in wins. > > Happens at least every 2nd game. No it doesnt. Neither in your match history nor in mine.
If we take my ranked games from most recent: 1) Alistar game: Viktor boosted (i semi trolled) 2) Xerath game: 1st time Galio 5) Ziggs game: Boosted Elise + Graves (graves ADC doesnt work, especially for him) 7) Ziggs game: 1-7 Darius. Solo lost game 10) Syndra game: Clearly boosted 2-8 Chogath with 91 cs 11) Xerath game: Super boosted jgl (and tilted ADC). Graves is bad, and he didnt react at all to bot being 4 man dived, meaning me and Irelia (who was good) couldn't move down in time 12) Ziggs game: Naut was being boosted by the ADC. Started the game 0-5 but we were able to carry him 13) Syndra game. Super boosted J4 duoing with Olaf who wasnt bad, but tilted. Almost impossible to win with a boosted jgl these days Then follows a couple of good games. But thats 8 out of the last 13 ranked games i played. Some i won, some i lost. Note that in several games i pop off and hard carry. In most games i do good, and only in 3 games do i have negative score, and the worst is 0-3-2. I never have atrocious CS, no dmg dealt or something like that. That means ALL 13 games would have been won if i had a just slightly better team - but because 1 or more ppl were SO BAD they belong in Bronze, 7 were lost. Why can this be allowed? The Draven game i ran down mid - and got banned. I only did slightly worse than say, the 2-8 Chogath with 91 CS.
: Well... then you were banned for breaking the rules. I really don't see the problem here. It is not hard not to flame and it is not hard not to feed.
There is no problem - of course i should give my best every time, even though i know my teammates are playing 1st time their champ, and in general are bad. It's just so hard to try your best, but realistically you know it will fail. A better approach i usually use is when i see my team has a bad comp, i play something i wanna practice and can hold my own with, but not hard carry.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=3fKafWr0,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2017-06-07T19:52:16.504+0000) > > So i just have to stand passively and watch while incredibly bad, clearly boosted players ruin any chance i have of winning my game? Can they not at least be put in Bronze, and there play to their skill level? :( Everyone has bad games
Until you watch their match history, with only wins on Lee (for example) with insane scores. Suddenly this guy "forgets" to play Lee, plays totally different champs and has very bad scores even in wins. Happens at least every 2nd game.
khorney (NA)
: the guy was in plat as galio not knowing his ult was teammate targeted...are you freaking serious.......
Sadly no. But he at least wasnt terribly boosted, knew he should farm, knew how to land some of his skills, grouped with team ect.. But well, i feel everyone on the boards generally get teammates better than themselves, which not exactly can be said by me... Therefore they think is fine to feed but not fine to flame the feeder
Jo0o (NA)
: Well, the ranked system self-corrects for boosted players. They'll demote over time. You're welcome to educate your teammates if appropriate, of course. That'll actually give you a chance of improving your in-game odds of success. Flaming them doesn't really accomplish anything.
Sometimes its hard... Had a Galio that claimed his ult didn't work... I asked if he had actually leveled it, then suggested he should disconnect and reconnect - but after 10 minutes he found out that it is not GROUND TARGETED, but can ONLY be targeted on teammates. That was my final promo game to Plat. I even won... so you see, i can carry almost anything ;) (went 18-3-18)
: You are not allowed to flame, ever. That is what the rules say and that is what you should abide by if you don't want your account banned.
It already is... Instead of flaming, i just ran down mid instead. After a particulary tilting game, in the next champ select, i see my team is even more boosted. So i lock in Draven and run down Tyler1 style - to save time at least ._.
archerno1 (EUNE)
: Never
So i just have to stand passively and watch while incredibly bad, clearly boosted players ruin any chance i have of winning my game? Can they not at least be put in Bronze, and there play to their skill level? :(
Rioter Comments
ybuR (NA)
: Remember when mages counterplay is being gated by mana?
Many still are, i think. From champions i play: {{champion:101}} : Heavy manacosts. Passive can keep you up on mana, but if zoned from AA-range, he will go OOM extremely quickly (we talking under 3 spell rotations). NEED Mana-item. {{champion:115}} : Has plenty mana for waveclear. Will go OOM if he tries to harrass a lot. Also NEED Mana-item {{champion:134}} : Can spam quite a lot - i can understand if ppl are frustrated when playing vs her. Still need mana item though. {{champion:126}} : As midlaner ("AD-Mage") he is extremely mana gated. I go tear on him, but if you dont, and is zoned away from hammer AA'ing creeps, 1½ rotation puts you OOM Plus a bunch other champs go Tear/ROA, because they need mana. If Morello was nerfed so it gave less AP, almost all mages would still need it or go OOM. I can only think of few who doesn't need it, like Annie for example - and she has been like this forever
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ljFk5AVK,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-05-24T15:15:57.331+0000) > > She needs nerf to a laning phase. She can eat every skillshot, miss her dagger-spin and miss almost all her ult, still get the kill - and this she can do vs a lot of midlaners. Especially {{champion:101}} is pure BS to play into kata. ??? her laning phase is fine. You have to learn to play around her daggers. Sorry that the game isn't spoon fed to you
Old Kata was a volatile, but managble matchup. New one just walks up to your ranged minions, jukes u with movement speed/ infinite dashes, and kills you the moment u enter her Q range (that means no AAs = no passive = OOM in seconds). Its like playing vs Yasuo - she can only die if she fucks up hard repeatedly.
: Kat needs more nerfs
She needs nerf to a laning phase. She can eat every skillshot, miss her dagger-spin and miss almost all her ult, still get the kill - and this she can do vs a lot of midlaners. Especially {{champion:101}} is pure BS to play into kata.
: There's a thing called "bad fight" or "I enegaged too early." that along with a failed gank by the enemy jungler only to return later to take advantage. What would you define as a reasonable state, though? She already has the highest mana costs of any mid lane mage with sub-par damage. In order to make her "balanced" you'd have to remove the movespeed on Q, get rid of two dashes on her ult and make her Charm similar to Xerath's in that it's shorter at point blank range and longer if she can get the full distance. I can easily win lane against her even good players. She's combo-reliant, needs charm for a decent trade, and ult as either an engage or escape, hardly ever kiting unless you can assure a kill and still get out. That is not to say "Oh, I think she's fine," because honestly I agree she needs nerfs, the point of my post was just giving you tips to lane against her which I could see I shouldn't have bothered because clearly I'm blinded by my waifu. News Flash: Noel Vermillion is better.
Her overall kit combined with her base damage is too strong atm. As her kit is not problematic, the numbers simply needs to be lowered until she has within 0.5 % of 50 % winrate in Platinum+ games. That is how i would define a reasonable state. She is getting pretty harsh nerf on the PBE as we speak. I would guess that puts her at 48 % winrate, which is OK since she has had 53 % winrate in 3 years. A couple of months from now she can get a small buff again - if needed.
: I understand we're all excited for the death of Yasuo and Lee Sin
90 % of the reason i ban Lee is not to have him on my team. I'm very good at playing lategame, but Lee is awful late - and there is no way in hell a Lee main will listen to me and instead pick a scaling champ, because "me make Insec play". Only a Lee onetrick with 55%+ winrate is allowed to play him on my team.
: By the first line alone, I can already see that no amount of details of why you should go Morgana into an Ahri or punishing her for being forward without her dashes is going to change that fact. I have lost many games against a talon before and after rework because they had the smarts to wait for a charm before going in. As for Taliyah, her minefield alone is enough to be a great zoning tool to make her think twice. Ahri is an assassin, if you stop her from doing just that, she' absolutely defenseless. Can't tell you the number of times I've been killed simply because my ult was down.
...And you never wait the 60 seconds it takes for the ult to come back up? I agree u cant 1v1 kill Morg, but no AP midlaner realistically can do that. Again, outroam is super easy for Ahri. I still dont believe that the minefield of Taliyah just gives her a free win vs Ahri. What do you do when they nerf her to a reasonable state, hopefully in 7.11? You will no longer have the - by far - best SoloQ-midlaner to spam
UrZedM8 (NA)
: Talon, Pantheon, Jayce, Lucian and Ahri.
I play a lot Jayce mid, and Kassadin is by no means an easy matchup. He can survive till 6, gets quite tanky and outscales easily. If his jungler helps him a tiny bit, Kassadin wins lane quite easily. If you don't kill him pre-6 and is up 20+ CS, it's kinda over
: Xerath gives me trouble because slows and stun, Taliyah and Morgana straight up counter her entire kit, Lux is a decent enough of a pick and Kassadin is pretty good as he's tanky as hell. Annie with flash-tibbers, talon's dashes and wall hops out mobile her. Viktor is also a good option as he just shits damage. Simply put, you dodge the charm and go all in on her. Most Ahris have three choices when it comes to using the ult: an engage, a kite, or an escape. She doesn't have the defenses to go for prolong fights.. If she misses her charm, she just wasted an important cooldown. Also, a tip is to constantly move around and hold flash for as long as you're able since most will try to bait it out of you. If you're still having issues: cleanse is a very good option to take in lane as well as you just freeze the lane a little bit more than halfway into your side to allow jungler to gank. Pre-6, she's pretty freelo. Should you manage to kill her, starve her of any experience you can which means shove the lane as hard as possible. Keep a control ward on the bottom side of river to keep an eye on roams.
Vs all the mages u listed, Ahri has 3 dashes and an MS steroid to juke their skillshots, while they have nothing but Flash to juke her charm. Including Taliyah, which i dont see how counters Ahri - she can get away from Taliyas volley, knockup, and over the wall, but *is* taking damage from her minefield. Kassadin can't catch her, but hardly gets soloed either - but he needs to scale for quite a bit of time. His Pre-6 is also much weaker than Ahris. Talon as well is melee, AD so countered by Zhonyas, and much weaker than Ahri. The rest is just generic tips. Push when u kill ur opponent... ok.
: If you just straight nerf Ahri, she's almost guaranteed to be replaced by someone worse than her.
Who, though? Orianna should be played more, as she is countered by Ahri. Velkoz, Ziggs and Xerath are quite strong but weaker AND countered by Ahri. TF can also go up, as she can both roam after him and outduel him in lane. The only two problems are Kassadin and Katarina, which Ahri players may go to, and especially Katarina is a stupid champ to face. But all the mages are not worse than Ahri, and will be a *very* welcomed change. Hopefully, all mains won't abandon her the second she drops below 50 % winrate :)
Mr1102 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PEUOL8ug,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-05-21T17:29:29.198+0000) > > If i play {{champion:101}}, **how can i then beat her beside straight up being much better than the Ahri-player?** Didn't really find a good answer? > So you're saying the pathway to winning should be something else besides "being the better player". You want to win in champselect sounds like. > Now, find a midlaner Ahri doesn't have the tools to beat. You can't - she always has an answer in her kit. **She never struggles** unless the player is really bad - and THAT is why she needs a nerf. You obviously haven't played Ahri against{{champion:7}} {{champion:1}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:157}}
Vs LB, she NEEDS to land chain and u NEED to land charm. U both have dashes = skill matchup. You have a huuge roaming advantage on Anivia and Annie, and Anivia's both stun and wall can be outplayed as well. Yasuo suffers from kind of the same problems Ahri has, which is having no real weakness, and is ATM a busted champ. Still, he is significantly easier to gank than Ahri, and is weaker in roams earlygame. So out of the 4, you only really has a case with 1 champ - and he is permabanned and getting nerfed.
Shahamut (NA)
: Does Yasuo really need double crit?
That would be so stupid. Now he HAS to build 2 damage items to do anything, and he still usually builds lifesteal. GA is also good, leaving him with only 1 item slot open for a full tank item.
: i've literally never fought an ahri and thought "wow she's op needs nerfs"...
If i play {{champion:101}}, how can i then beat her beside straight up being much better than the Ahri-player? Didn't really find a good answer? Now, find a midlaner Ahri doesn't have the tools to beat. You can't - she always has an answer in her kit. She never struggles unless the player is really bad - and THAT is why she needs a nerf.
Rioter Comments
RallerenP (EUW)
: You had to cherry pick 1 full pre-made game from two months ago and tell me I have to uninstall? Even though I found 4 games from a couple of days ago? I regret saying that I didn't care about your opinion, as I truly do feel sad. You have broken me! NOOOoooo!
Yes you are right, u are not a feeder, and probably a quite good player. If you were on my team, i would never ever be toxic towards you! Why should I? You clearly wanna win, and if we lose, u still do okay, meaning the game is somewhat close and we just lost to an overall better team.
MysterQ (NA)
: I will admit, it looks like you might have had a good lane at a glance. But you were not good enough to push your advantage. You had first blood and quickly went 2-0 (good). But what did you do with that, not much. You even lost your turret without taking the LeBlancs. You should have been shoving her in. Ekko. Solo kill'd once. Ok. (Aatrox solo kills Varus once). Solo kill'd again by now 3-0 Aatrox. Killed by Taric TARIC. Killed twice by Aatrox now 5-0. You are right objectively Ekko did not do good. But where the heck where you? The fact that you are 3-0 is bad for you. If your team is losing, you need to be around, instead you have 1 assist. You can say your team wasn't getting kills, so you couldn't get assists but Bard was cleaning up kills that you could have taken and gotten fed. TARIC even got a solo kill. Where were you. Mid lane should either be shoving tower (not done) or roaming to help (not done). You are right, you might have been able to win that game if the laning phase was longer. If your other lanes didn't fall. But my problem is you were 3-0 in a losing game. That just tells me you were not fighting. How do you have no deaths at all unless you were running. Play some games with me though. I only play Flex, but you can carry me as I play safe.
Even though i was fed, Aatrox was so strong and Ekko so weak he could 1v2. Any pushes i made would lead to a jungle camping me hard. Boiled down to its core, LB started playing safe and not dying, while Ekko didn't. That meant the good Aatrox won, while the good Jayce lost - without it ever being a fair fight between us. Thats what i'm upset about.
: No, you got a 14-day ban because this is your 5th penalty. It would have been a chat restriction, but the severity was escalated.
But why isn't there a much harsher penalty for the actual feeders - if they werent AFK/feeding, our banned friend wouldn't have been toxic in the first place? EDIT: Like this game... http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2443908860/37271574?tab=overview Can Rito ban themselves? Hello?
Cantabrum (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iHc7Ej9H,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-05-16T14:21:10.036+0000) > > If you go into engagement range of a 5-0 riven, it is intentional. If she jumps you and you die, you are feeding. Intentional feeding! Ppl think inting is only when you run down mid, but theres more to it than that. Including your game (even tho i admit it is a borderline case, u don't seem to be a feeder) So, you did watch the game and thus can judge how i died...? You are just a salty cause yyou lost some games, now you try to put blame on everyone else. Well, at least you shouldn't have to bother with your account for long anymore. Your sort usually gets banned rather quickly. Maybe you should google how a ranking system works....
Instead of being toxic, i have resorted to int feed. It doesn't get me banned, as most games where no feeder is there, i hard carry (look up my Xerath games for example). Because of this, i don't get banned it seems.
Cantabrum (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iHc7Ej9H,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2017-05-16T14:12:10.181+0000) > > Same to you: > > http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3120295974/27236463?tab=overview > > Was it an experiment on seeing how fed a Riven can get? > > BANNED No, that was simply a bad game by me. The difference is, taht this was not **intentional**. Unlike your games, where you clearly state that it was. **Everyone** has bad games from time to time, there is no exception. The difference is, that you did it on purpose. Do you even realise that there is a difference?
If you go into engagement range of a 5-0 riven, it is intentional. If she jumps you and you die, you are feeding. Intentional feeding! Ppl think inting is only when you run down mid, but theres more to it than that. Including your game (even tho i admit it is a borderline case, u don't seem to be a feeder)
Jo0o (NA)
: There are always good times to get aggressive, even when behind. Baiting the enemy laner in for a potential gank, taking advantage of them not backing in an efficient manner, taking advantage of various power spikes in your items or kit... Point is, you're just another person who wants to somehow manipulate rules enforcement to guarantee good teammates, as if you've never thrown a game before.
I have yet to see a 2-0 player who is 50 farm down solo kill his lane opponent. Sure go for a gank - but when the jungler isn't around, sit under tower. Name one single matchup where a player wins when down 0-2 and 50 CS behind. There is none.
Cantabrum (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sniperkaj,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iHc7Ej9H,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2017-05-16T14:01:18.185+0000) > > That is 4 games where i was "intentionally feeding". Then you should already have a perma ban, but unfortunatly riot's feederbuster still has some problems.
Same to you: http://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3120295974/27236463?tab=overview Was it an experiment on seeing how fed a Riven can get? BANNED
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