: At an even foot with the opponent does "miss every core ability" with an AP assassin is still valid to kill someone ?
: I'm really tired of QSS against Urgot
Yes, let's take out all the possible country plays to anything.
: I am quitting league.
new akali is designed by CertainlyT
: > [{quoted}](name=Khristophoros,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Megs8Efm,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-23T02:08:22.980+0000) > > Yes he deals too much damage, but he needs to deal too much damage to be viable lmao > > His design is really, really bad. His design is outdated, but still better than most of the marksman imo. Unlike most of them, he actually has some build flexibility. If he's going to remain immobile, he needs more reliable utility, but most people that play him probably don't want changes that large to their champ.
marksman don't 2shot u by lvl 3
: Anybody else misses those Diamond Ranked Games on the bottom right of the client?
: I mean they don't have that much mobility so they could just get ruined with a jungle gank, but yeah they're pretty ridiculous to fight and you're forced under tower. That's why I hope they increase tower range and health so you don't just get destroyed under tower by them.
The problem is, you guys can't even 3vs2 them if u are <50% hp all the time and besides that do you really wanna depend on your jungler XD.
: I genuinely think bot lane is the best it's ever been.
"keep some ADC's relevant on complete accident" relevant vs other adcs, but the moment you meet some fiddle+brand bot, you are doomed
GigglesO (NA)
: How have olaf, eve, morde, skarner, aatrox, nunu and other forgotten champions gotten through rough times?
but those are champs not entire class
GigglesO (NA)
: So adc's might be trash...
so we don't play till like 10 next patches ?
: w qr is her playing it poorly. Imagine an assassin using her entire kit to kill someone /. Wow much shock
yes not hitting you with W btw :)
MrHaZeYo (NA)
: As someone who has played a lot of LB, back then and now, a W> RW shouldn't flat out kill anyone. W>RW>Q>E might but even then you'd be better off with one of the other combos.
i don't know what game you are playing but a w Q R would leave me with 10 hp
Leto GT (EUW)
: Can we get a lol legacy server?
There is a private server that run's a patch in season 4 called league of memories, look it up.
Kokua (NA)
: My shop is empty this time. And it was empty last time. And the time before that. Why must I already own everything in the shop and not be able to take advantage of shop discount prices? {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
> [{quoted}](name=Kokua,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1ElRxO2b,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-07T08:37:08.026+0000) > > My shop is empty this time. And it was empty last time. And the time before that. > > Why must I already own everything in the shop and not be able to take advantage of shop discount prices? > {{sticker:sg-soraka}} make a smurf :D
Banuvan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Gun Architect,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0Eh9X0dy,comment-id=0019000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T22:02:49.220+0000) > > I did read it, but it seems like it makes more sense if it was performance based rather than &quot;system is screwed&quot; don&#x27;t you think? Just because you want something to be a certain way doesn't make it that way. The system has been screwed for a while now. I agree with you it should be more performance based but that's now how it works and complaints have fallen on deaf ears at Riot. Faker saying something about it rather than some random silver person on the forums carries more weight and gives people hope that Riot will do something. Personally I think Riot is too arrogant to actually make logical and smart decisions concerning matchmaking. They don't have a good history of it in the past ( i.e. dynamic queue ).
I see your point though, thank you for taking time to explain, I honestly thought it was performance based since i always get high gold on my smurfs. Also I hope flex queue goes away when clash is up and running, so they can focus on soloq and improve it
Banuvan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Gun Architect,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0Eh9X0dy,comment-id=00190000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T21:49:38.748+0000) > > Then how do you explain a smurf getting higher rank after placement than a real newbie withsame wins/losses ? The same way a person in this thread went from unranked to 0-10 in placements and got put in silver 2. The system is screwed. That's what this whole thread is about. The jacked up matchmaking. Did you even read it or are you just spouting out your rear end? Seriously I even gave you a link explaining it from Riot themselves and you are still trying to argue it.
I did read it, but it seems like it makes more sense if it was performance based rather than "system is screwed" don't you think?
Banuvan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Gun Architect,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0Eh9X0dy,comment-id=001900000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T20:35:47.620+0000) > > Not really , nothing is that simple at least since 2008, this is not a card game it&#x27;s alot more than win/lose ratio. > > Do your research friend. Yes it is. You are misinformed and should probably do research yourself. Here you go since you are too inept to use google. https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/201752954-Matchmaking-Guide
Then how do you explain a smurf getting higher rank after placement than a real newbie withsame wins/losses ?
Banuvan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Gun Architect,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0Eh9X0dy,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2018-06-05T19:51:03.737+0000) > > so what, MMR is performance based not win/losses Wrong. The only thing that matters to your mmr is if you win or lose. Nothing you do in the game matters. Those ratings you get are for champion progression only. The only thing that matters to Riot is the wins and losses.
Not really , nothing is that simple at least since 2008, this is not a card game it's alot more than win/lose ratio. Do your research friend.
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: Faker's thoughts on matchmaking / KR soloQ.
> An UNRANKED player in the previous season did 0-10 in placements and got placed in SILVER 2! Get a grasp on it. so what, MMR is performance based not win/losses
Netorare (EUNE)
: HAHAHA GET FUCKED SHIELD BOTS {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} today is a good day for league
: Jesus, they're nerfing Karma when she's already basically a worse Sona.
> [{quoted}](name=Faerie Sovereign,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p41HxtE7,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-05T04:15:17.241+0000) > > Jesus, they&#x27;re nerfing Karma when she&#x27;s already basically a worse Sona. lol she is not
Zerenza (NA)
: Used to be a first buy on every ADC because it gave tankiness and damage, that was when it had more AD though, it was needed to its current state because of ADC abuse.
I only remember mf and lucian getting it and it wasn't first buy :?
: {{champion:107}}
Hello {{item:3095}}
Zerenza (NA)
: Not at all? Wait, were you here for these items being abused by ADC's? Black Clever, Maw of Malmortius, Deaths Dance, Frozen Mallet, Steraks Gage, Youmu's Ghostblade, Duskblade, Edge of Night, Trinity Force, Sunfire Cape, like do i even need to go on? They have a STRONG tendency to take ANY item with ANY Synergy for them AT ALL and abuse the fuck out of it then get it nerfed for it's intended user's. Essence Reaver is actually pretty good on Xayah and Sivir, Sivir mostly, Ezreal is a caster so he can build Essence reaver as well but Hyper Carry FULL CRIT Adc's like Jinx, Vayne and Tristana won't be able to 2 shot you with 2 items anymore and actually have to get to late game like their supposed to. I'm still one edge about On-Hit ADC's like Kai'Sa but that'll get nerfed eventually.
Who tf buys black clever on adc ?
Rioter Comments
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Will audio lore become the new standard?
HOLY SHIT I HAVEN'T SEEN THIS OMGHZKJHkjrherktj hekrjt herkjt hk **THE ART** _THE MUSIC_ _**THE VOICES**_ whoever assisted in this I love you. {{sticker:sg-lux}}
: I'm agreeing with you on this because Graves doesn't even build Lifesteal nor take Fleet.
http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/graves Pros only pick fleet
: > [{quoted}](name=DimPack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pZeUl2QG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-05-27T20:55:46.451+0000) > > Riot is just a great company in general Agreed. Can't remember the last time they did something wrong.
> [{quoted}](name=ZackTheWaffleMan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pZeUl2QG,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-05-27T21:01:03.988+0000) > > Agreed. Can&#x27;t remember the last time they did something wrong. duskblade
: I feel like most of the people that complain about League are actively trying to NOT have fun
I'm tryna learn fam, but that rengar deleting me before i can even test my ability to kite in a fight is not fun.
: Its even worse if you don't pick something they have seen before. I've been hard flamed for kalista jungle more times then i can count.
they treat normals like LCS, they think they can report someone for not following the meta 100% even though he's trying his best.
: Don't Attack People Who Are Bad In Normals
Bruh I never understood those people, whenever i play another role besides my main there is always that 40% winrate bronze/silver guy who will flame me for missing a smite or something
: tldr please
> [{quoted}](name=free software,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=yPojLTEa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-05-24T02:24:05.428+0000) > > tldr please he wrote a funny story for rp, worth reading.
: Can we have the option to choose which champions to display on our profile?
Why do u wanna change 420 blaze it {{champion:63}}
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: ??? MSI has been nocturne/kindred/trundle/skarner/olaf today
because kha is perma banned, he got banned 14 times since msi started, he is the most banned jungler along side with scarner http://www.gamesoflegends.com/tournament/stats.php?id=MSI%20Play-In%202018
: Brand's lane is weak. Don't feed Fizz in the first place. Janna is still a worse Lulu is most cases. Jax? EVERY CHAMPION IS HELL WHEN AHEAD? Yet Kayn's stats suck? So Yi needs over 7000 gold to be good??? Please refer to Dardoch's last LCS game with Nocturn as example. 2v1? Like his ganks? His ganks sucks. He can be 1v1ed easy.
since when brand's lane is weak, he is one of the strongest poke support out there wth u talkin about It's not about feeding him, playing any sort of squishie vs fizz no matter what role jungle/sup/ad/top/mid youll get melted everytime if he gets a kill or two in lane. Jax is special, because when a bit ahead he is **unstoppable btw** How does his stats suck exactly I didn't know {{item:3124}} costs 7k soloq=/=pro play, Evelyn can be the most op thing youll ever meet, but in pro play she is garbage. its like you are playing a different game, xin can be 1v1'd easy, damn
: Makes no sense: {{champion:63}} let the stats speak https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/brand/support/diamond {{champion:105}} I have no clue why people even think Fizz is remotely strong. Any stat website says he sucks. No waveclear, dies instantly in fights. {{champion:3}} if you play in a competitive league, sure {{champion:40}} She's only a bruiser counter. If you're playing a bruiser, you're banning Gnar or Kennen anyways. {{champion:24}} I don't think you main Kayle. If you did, you ban Irelia instead. {{champion:38}} (Same as Fizz, but he's actually tankier and less annoying) {{champion:55}} a little understandable because she's near impossible to deal with if you don't know what you're doing {{champion:141}} w a t ? {{champion:11}} ????? {{champion:56}} **???????** #{{champion:5}} ?????????
Ok let's see {{champion:63}} Try laning against his 9999 range W with tons of damage {{champion:105}} Gets one or two kills somewhere, now everytime he sees you, you gonna die in teamfight with no chance to fight back unless you have the balanced boizz {{champion:40}} {{champion:117}} with you. Also His E is a waveclear. {{champion:3}} With him in mid, you cannot dive, nor push nor let them shove you and on top of that have to chose your fight timing very wisely. {{champion:40}} One of the most cancerous shieldsluts out there, Requires very litte effort to play and so much effort and teamwork to deal with, and im not even talking about bruisers, Im talking about laning phase, (support/adc). {{champion:24}} If this boi gets ahead hell be unstoppable no matter what. {{champion:38}} He gets a bit ahead, and he is a terror to deal with in the midgame, you can't go do anything because you know he'll be there waiting for you. {{champion:55}} you can be 2 screens away from her and she still can get to you. {{champion:141}} A good kayn will leave you no way to dodge his ganks. {{champion:11}} I'm sorry what ? you really don't understand why yi is on the list ? Maybe this will help you out {{item:3124}} {{champion:56}} He's not really op, but his ult damage is a bit silly in the early game, and you can't flash away from his fear. {{champion:5}} try 2vs1'ing that guy
: I can't ban them. Because I can't ban all of them {{champion:35}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:114}} ######graves/morg are counterpicks for what i play, rest are either OP or I just don't feel like dealing with uninteractive gameplay.
my list {{champion:63}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:238}}
: Btw there isn't anything in the Universal Rules that mentions rank-shaming. Top kek.
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ej9ztFrj,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-05-05T22:12:29.372+0000) > > Btw there isn&#x27;t anything in the Universal Rules that mentions rank-shaming. Top kek. ikr XDDD
: ADCs where abusing every single item made for other classes. Why it's okay for them to be able to do it and it's immediately not ok for other classes to use items for ADCs effeciently? ADC main much?
what items for other classes adcs abuse ?
: honest rune keystone
This was so funny to read, thank you for sharing this.
: Why do Janna players have to be "e-girls"?
found one of them my boiz{{sticker:darius-angry}}
: late game is 20-25 minutes into the game, when you compare it to better times though it would still be considered mid game
: They're temporary
: Is this really okay?
Apparently its..
Rioter Comments
: because they're in desperate need of changes. a class that is supposed to be a late game monster is hitting spikes on one to two items, while being insanely tanky with shielding and healing supports. as an assassin its pretty toxic to fight imo
You know very well that there is no such a thing as "late game" this season
: > you guys say bs like this then i start a game and rengar/khazix So 2 assassins being "broken" means the rest of the class is doing good? Also do you realize he was mainly talking about assassins that goes to the mid lane? Because i thought it was clear that the only viable assassins is those that go into the jungle for pro games.
a single adc is broken and suddenly the whole class is op as hell ://{{champion:145}} meanwhile everyone turns a blind eye to the real reason {{champion:117}} {{champion:40}}
: those situations,where rengar oneshots you, are as rare as me getting laid
: adc mains will never stop complaining and I laugh every time I see it
That's weird, everytime i open boards its people complaining about adcs :O
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Squishie,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yAwbo8Ek,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-23T06:50:43.661+0000) > > you guys say bs like this then i start a game and rengar/khazix can oneshot me before i can even flash away Rengar is dogshit for the rest of the match if he doesn't get an insane lead in the first few minutes of the game. Kha has been shoulders above all the other assassins for quite a while. So it's not like we should just take him as all the other assassins.
wildfox99 (EUW)
: because it's what an assassin is supposed to do,they don't do anything else if you are an isolated target out of positioning or you are overextending you MUST die for them,there shouldn't be a big room for "counterplay" in that case,the counterplay is either being a nice 1vs1 champion like a bruiser (with some defensive item),or grouping with your team,in THAT case they shouldn't be able to kill you so easily,and honestly i've never seen one of them jumping on 5 guys,oneshooting someone and running away unless they were fed like a pig or they had a perfect timing on their engage,except for rengar,but he's rengar not "all assassins" and "hybrid assassins" ({{champion:103}} {{champion:142}}...) it's this mentality that ruined this class and gave all this power to ADCs,idk about you but i see many people playing squishy champions like ADCs or control mages trying to 1 vs 1 an assassin and complaining for getting deleted (ie. a vayne that Q in on a zed for autoattacking him gets oneshooted and then call him broken),as a mid main (i play and main both mages and assasins) i can tell that really a lot of people do that (even in elo like high plat) and it ends up that assassins must be nerfed because they have no counterplay and kill you too fast while you only had to give them the respect they deserve not to mention assassins actually have windows where they can kill you and windows when they are vulnerable,sure if rengar ult and engage you you are going to die,but if you see him let's say farming top and you engage him,all he can do is flashing away and ulting for escaping (supposing he's not fed),ADCs have always their AA up (AAs have no CD) and you can't play aroud it (the only "counterplay" is being out of their AA range),supports as well only have to pint click with instant abilities for peeling their ADC and you can't play around that with that i mean some assassins don't have all this counterplay ({{champion:105}} ),but as long as their targets have literally 0 counterplay if not being more fed than them you can't expect anything else
I don't know about you, but my experience in soloq is getting one shotted by these champions regardless of who is with me, there is no stopping that first auto burst that leaves u with 20 hp sometimes nothing. also what is the "window" when khazix is vulnerable ?
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