Moooose4 (NA)
: Almost positive they didn't do it for you. You're not special.
I am not saying I am, nor that I am the sole reason for this. Many have asked for a Varian/Lo'Gosh skin or chroma, and now we have it. I just wanted to thank them for listening to the community, as this is the only chroma I have really wanted.
: We Need More UpVotes For This. I Would Love For This Chroma To Be Real.
It is now! :D https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GLd-KQuwG0Q/WlUpeIatB3I/AAAAAAAA2eo/fYFP9jiz99kCCblaGPJ0aM84Mog-SkhxQCLcBGAs/s200/86012.png Link to S@20 post: http://www.surrenderat20.net/2018/01/19-pbe-update.html#chroma
: Where is the Single player and multiplayer Campaign mode?
Master Cross Master (MXM) tried to push a campaign and Diablo-like singleplayer with optional multiplayer into a MOBA. That game is now dead. They did not focus on the core game enough, and it became a mess. I think the current approach, where Riot introduces events now and then, is a better way to keep things fresh.
Rioter Comments
: So, we're well on our way to February which means Blood Moon...
Rioter Comments
Vekkna (NA)
: If you dig down really, really deep, you'll find the inner strength to build a bridge and get over it.
That is a weird thing to write... The community should voice their opinions on changes they do not like, not just accept everything. Your ignorance is showing when you do not take into consideration that making an established hetero champion into a gay one is a bad way of adding diversity. It feels as forced as the changes that DC did to Green Lantern, not like the meaningful changes to Batwoman, where the character was switched for a relative, where the U.S. Army's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy" is explored, and where her sexual orientation added interesting elements to the story (Kathy Kane --> Kate Kane = a new character, not changes to an established one).
Vekkna (NA)
: If you look at any thread on these boards talking about gay characters, it's guaranteed to have replies to this effect: * Sexuality doesn't matter to a character * Sexuality doesn't belong in games * Representation is stupid, and it's your own fault that you can't identify with straight characters * We don't need to know what a champ does in the bedroom Just pointing out that these responses are obviously a one-way street, because apparently Varus' sexuality and baby-making matters more than anything to these boards. It's also interesting to see so many heartfelt, angry posts from players saying they no longer identify with Varus anymore now that he's gay. Those posts somehow exist right alongside all the posts saying minority representation is still stupid?
To me, it is not that I don't identify with Varus anymore, it is the fact that they changed **_what I liked about him_**. They way I read most of the angry posts, that is what they mean by stating they "do not identify" with Varus anymore. And this is why people react negatively when Riot changes a lot of lore, without thinking about what the champion was like with the older variant. Gone is his stoic nature, sense of duty, and the rage which makes him break and leave his old nature behind. This made him understandable and relatable. The new story seems so forced to be about gay love, and the motive for going into the well is washed out and weak in comparison - drowned in a music video stereotype of unrelatable, rushed, Hollywood feelings of love. The removed his old motive and the sense of revenge. The revenge part is portrayed in a weak way in the new story, only showed on one page, then downplayed until after the transformation. The story also suffers from "the Spider-Man 3 syndrome": Riot wanted to force in too much: a LGBT love story and how Varus is connected to the Darkin, and forgot about the old story line and just went on with the new additions. The result is, to me, a weaker story with forgettable characters and a more vague sense of revenge.
: Why We Love Lore
And this is why people react negatively when Riot changes a lot of lore, without thinking about what the champion was like with the older variant. This is the very reason so many player are upset about the Varus lore changes. He is no longer the Varus I got to know through the lore. He is no longer the old badass, and is instead a victim of a poor lore retcon with forced LGBT flavour. Gone is his stoic nature, sense of duty, and the rage which makes him break and leave his old nature behind. This made him understandable and relatable. The new story seems so forced to be about gay love, and the motive for going into the well is washed out and weak in comparison - drowned in a music video stereotype of unrelatable, rushed, Hollywood feelings of love. The removed his old motive and the sense of revenge. The revenge part is portrayed in a weak way in the new story, only showed on one page, then downplayed until **_after_** the transformation. The story also suffers from "the Spider-Man 3 syndrome": Riot wanted to force in a LGBT love story and how Varus is connected to the Darkin, and forgot about the old story line and just went on with the new additions. The result is, to me, a weaker story with forgettable characters and a more vague sense of revenge.
: Varus being CHANGED to Gay feels wrong for his character
What annoys me is how his stoic and honourable nature, and how he keeps guarding the well, are suddenly forgotten parts of the story. The changes feel as forced and unnatural as those of Green Lantern. It does not make him more interesting or complex, it is just different. I really like the original Varus lore and really dislike the new one, as it fails to represent the character I like and know as Varus. It would make more sense to flesh out the conflict between the human and Darkin instead, and build upon the old lore.
rainbowmain (EUNE)
: Is PBE client/account illegal?
I don't know if I get your question, but it is legal to have a PBE client/account. It is used for testing. You cannot buy one, but must apply for one.
: Blitzcrank Tankcrank Skin
I was inspired by your concept and ideas and made a quick sketch with some suggestions: https://i.imgur.com/cZO5JgM.png He would also turn into a tank with Homeguard, or with his Overdrive [W]. If he uses Rocket Grab [Q] when he is affected by a movement speed boost, he will fire a hook from the cannon instead.
: ok we need a new shen skin
Copy + Paste of two ideas I have posted on the forum earlier: --- I think Shen deserves _at least_ a 1350 RP skin with some unique effects. Even though Warlord Shen has unique AA animations, none of his skins have unique VFX or SFX, which really make them feel less valuable. --- **What I would like the most for a new Shen skin:** **A cool Taunt with new SFX and VFX** Dash sound: https://youtu.be/BfaToo_2dJw?t=55s http://www.mortalkombatwarehouse.com/mk2/screenshots/12.png Something akin to the brutal sound effect of Johnny Cage's Shadow Kick (first sound after the bubbling water), which leaves a trace of green (and sometimes red) silhouettes. The silhouette effect would be really nice, and is easier to implement now that the range is a tad longer than it used to be. **A trace in the ground where the Spirit Sword has been dragged** The sword should leave a trace in its path which is visible to friendly players at all times, but only visible to enemy players if they can see Shen. **Several AA animations, like God Fist Lee Sin has** Shen has a kit that makes it challenging to implement interesting VFX. It would therefore make sense to focus more on his AA animations than for other champions when adding something unique to his more expensive skins: - Cycles through several standard AA animations - Offensive AA animations when he uses Taunt or hits an enemy player with his Spirit Sword - Defensive AA animations when his shield is active, or when he is shielded by an item or a skill This stays true to his kit, and adds a lot of flavour to skills that alone can be considered subtle when compared to other champions. **An ultimate with unique and more advanced animations and VFX** I would really like an ult without the standard circles that form around him, and instead have a more interesting and active animation, like: - Shen summons two spirit ninja, which duplicate his hand gesture before they become one with him and he is teleported to the selected player - Shen is enveloped in a purple fog which snakes around him. His eyes light up as he performs a series of quick sword moves, making it seem like the blades spin like helicopter blades around his body before he disappears with a "POOF!" - Shen throws a purple smoke bomb on the ground. Purple smoke arises as he is transformed into a bigger copy of the Spirit Sword. The Spirit Sword remains for one second after Shen has teleported --- What about **Deadly Shen**? That would give you a lot of room to go over-the-top with his VFX, and the MK dash would fit the theme :) http://img15.deviantart.net/44f6/i/2016/059/d/0/shenpool_visual_update_by_exaxuxer-d9tfd4n.jpg From Exaxuxer on Deviantart: http://exaxuxer.deviantart.com/ (WARNING! Checked his profile, and it's one of those o_O' HIDE YO KIDS!) And for Shen's recall (he has to pay for the ride first, though!): http://im.ziffdavisinternational.com/t/ign_in/news/h/high-moons/high-moons-deadpool-makes-debut-appearance-on-xbox_1am9.640.jpg If you do make this a recall animation he needs to scream "RED ROCKET!" :D The rocket should move slowly back and forth, while making screeching sounds: "Looks like the red rocket needs to be oiled up!" :3 His Spirit Sword could be a giant squeaky toy hammer: http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/222566992/Hammer_toys_sledge_hammer_toys_plastic_hammer.jpg Or a similar toy sword. It makes different sqeuaky sounds depending on if it is summoned or if it hits an enemy. --- Kindlejack did like the first suggestion, so there is hope: "_This is some cool stuff! I agree Shen is definitely one of those few champs that hasn't gotten a skin in 3+ years. He had a mid level rework but that's been done for a while now. I'd love to do something really solid for Shen - something that makes his spirit sword interesting as that's now a huge part of his visual design._" Original thread: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/tFLqnHcY-the-next-ultimate-skin-part-2?comment=00020003
Rioter Comments
: Hi DrCyanide - ** Why do they look so bad?** This isn't useful for us when parsing feedback. It's absolutely okay to say you don't like something, something sucks, etc., but please tell us why. We aren't able to make changes or have a direction to move in with your feedback otherwise. I'm happy to hear you out if you have specifics on what you don't like. #Zed **Nothing feels spooky or scary, it just looks confusing and distracting.** What would you change to make it spooky or scary? ** I look at his pink claws and think he messed up his Wolverine cosplay (maybe Zed's color blind, IDK** Do you dislike them as a whole, is the color the issue? #Katarina **When I look at the color scheme, I'm pretty positive you're just trying to recycle either a Neon Strike Kat skin or an Arcade Kat skin, maybe a Death Blossom Kat skin.** We aren't, but what stands out as the larger issue - the hair, the blades? What color scheme would you suggest/tweaks would you make on the existinf color scheme?
100% scarier Katarina: https://i.imgur.com/PkpKRW1.png **New features:** - Huge, open, evil mouth - Snake tongue - Red eyes - Red gem --- I also made a slight edit of Viktor: https://i.imgur.com/VvVtDZ6.png **New features:** - Lighter colour for his hands to make them more visible - White light added to the eyes and mouth of the mask --- I almost gave up on Zed. That skin is just a mess in my opinion. There are too many edges and colours clashing with each other. The mask has too small details for them to be visible at all. I cannot see the face at all when viewing him at his natural angles. I can barely see it when he stands up to perform the recall animation. This is an issue for a lot of Zed skins: the mask/face is hard to see. You could add a new kind of helmet, or a more complete helmet instead. The hair does not add anything worth mentioning to the skin, so just drop it. Here is a small edit to show what I mean: https://i.imgur.com/rLrHZOM.png **New features:** - New helmet - Blue, glowing eyes - Hair removed I think Riot needs to reconsider how one approaches Zed skins, because all the details get lost because of the angle of his head. Just add some massive helmets, hoods or interesting details to get around the problem.
: Tbh I really dislike the Zed skin.
It's too messy when it comes to details, and it is also too messy when it comes to colouring. It's just a big, blue heap of metal with claws. It is really disappointing considering the quality I know Riot usually has. The Q and the ult mark also need work.
Almighty (EUNE)
: Blackthorn Morgana is NOT worth 1350RP.
I bet it will be worth 1350 after her VU :D
: The only [skin](http://apollo-na-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/1420625272877/Battlecastvoli.png) Volibear would ever need.
Needs more striking colours in the form of awesome chromas though.
Fozza (OCE)
: When I'm not playing HotS, I sleep soundly knowing there's always Warring Kingdoms Garen to keep Varian spiritually with me
Hehe! I see that Photobucket has ruined my pic. Added it to Imgur instead, so it works now. What I like the most is playing him in URF when one hits mid-to-late game. You can spin continually with the dragon up all the time, making you a living Beyblade :P I would love if Riot added a Lion for this version. That would be really cool.
Doomatie (NA)
: WORST $300 SKIN EVER
It is really weird that Riot has not done anything unique or extra appealing with her skills to make more people want to pay for it. It feels like a 975 skin at the moment. Not even a proper recall. I have seen several 975 skins with higher quality, like the Challenger and Championship skins, or Bewitching Morgana.
: Does he have an orange chroma that makes him the hobgoblin? Otherwise, I'm uninterested.
No, as I have made the Green Goblin chroma myself, but it does NOW: http://i.imgur.com/lJdUCSz.png :P
: Hey everyone! First off, I want to thank you guys (and grills) for leaving your feedback in this and other threads on the boards. We had a discussion around the color of the dress after we debuted her on PBE. We saw feedback both for and against the color change, which is why we wanted to get together and take a look at her again. **TL;DR after our discussion:** We're going to roll with keeping her dress as-is Basically, this is what we would have made Pentakill Sona look like if we had designed her based on the standards we have today. When we were working on her, we decided a blue tint was better because this is a semi reflective fabric, whether it's velvet, satin, or taffeta, the black would be reflecting color off. Also, the dark, dark blue separates everything and makes her an easier read in game; her etwahl and chains don't blend into her model and muddy things up from game height. I realize this isn't the answer everyone is going to be hoping for, but I did want to provide some context, as having things change without any kind of reasoning (especially when it's something you like) sucks.
**_Basically, this is what we would have made Pentakill Sona look like if we had designed her based on the standards we have today._** Then how do you explain Pentakill Kayle? She is all black, save for some very dark grey and some neat highlights where there is not actual metal. Why can't you do the same for the rest of the skins? I would be fine with Sona's skin if you gave her a black dress with blue or purple highlights in the form of reflections, but you chose a blue dress. It looks out of place. You simply fail to deliver on the theme. I am extremely dissatisfied with your direction. It is as weird as making a Shadow Lord Shen skin, and have it bright pink. Do you not see the problem? It is too bright and colourful. The dress looks good if one views it objectively, but it does not fit the skin theme, and thereby looks bad in that context. **_When we were working on her, we decided a blue tint was better because this is a semi reflective fabric, whether it's velvet, satin, or taffeta, the black would be reflecting color off. Also, the dark, dark blue separates everything and makes her an easier read in game; her etwahl and chains don't blend into her model and muddy things up from game height._** The problem is that It is not simply a tint, but an all blue dress. I get no impression that black is involved at all. As stated above: why not use highlights in the form of actual reflections instead of all blue? It would make it more interesting too. And if you want to separate everything better, why on earth did you choose a hue for the chains that is so close to her dress'? They should be greyer or have the same kind of shiny highlights that you used for Pentakill Kayle's wings. **_I realize this isn't the answer everyone is going to be hoping for, but I did want to provide some context, as having things change without any kind of reasoning (especially when it's something you like) sucks._** You could at least make some all-black chromas for the Pentakill skins? That way you earn more money and satisfy all. Why do you choose to make a change that goes against the theme? That is my question, because I know the artist team is skilled enough to do some changes that maintain both the black theme and clarity.
Finclbricas (EUNE)
: ar urf sucks bring back normal urf
Would be nice if you added a poll so we can see what the community thinks :) 1) I prefer AR URF 2) I prefer regular URF 3) I like both and would like both versions to be in the rotation I personally prefer AR URF as there are so many champions that have a higher pick rate that the games become dull in regular URF, and too many instalock and troll.
: Endless cycle of restoring to previous version of LoL and patching error, am I the only one?
Try a total uninstall of League of Legends with one of these programs: - IOBit - free: http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php - Uninstall Tool - free trial or about $25 for a license: https://www.crystalidea.com/uninstall-tool If you can afford it, I would recommend getting Uninstall Tool. I have several friends who had problems with the new client, but the problems went away after a clean install with one of the programs above. I also had problems after the migration to the new client. They went away after I used Uninstall Tool :) This very specific issue you are having was an issue a friend had. She does not have that issue after using IOBit. She did not want to use money on such a program, so she went with the free, albeit ad-infested, option. Please reply directly to this post after you have tried it :)
: No Butcher Urgot Border for the OG's ?
Would be cool though. What about something like this?: Red Border http://imgur.com/xx7ZL1m Green Border http://imgur.com/i0Z2ko9
: Kayle's Helm
Let us just wait for a Project skin with a cool helmet and toggleable visor :) Best of both worlds!
: Why is the client still buggy?
Try a total uninstall of League of Legends with one of these programs: - IOBit - free: http://www.iobit.com/en/index.php - Uninstall Tool - free trial or about $25 for a license: https://www.crystalidea.com/uninstall-tool If you can afford it, I would recommend getting Uninstall Tool. I have several friends who had problems with the new client, but the problem went away after a clean install with one of the programs above. I also had problems after the migration to the new client. They went away after I used Uninstall Tool :)
Sukishoo (NA)
: You're the one that's wrong or else they wouldn't have made it the color they did cause it's not black in the current splash and it wasn't in the old either.
That does not make sense and is not true. Her dress is clearly black with the scene lights giving it a purple highlight in the old spash art. The dress has always been black in-game until the recent changes. You can get a wrong impression of Hextech Annie's hair too, because of the lighting - it is the very same "problem". Sona has no where near a blue dress in the newest splash either - it looks like a black leather dress with some highlights. They went with the more colourful colour scheme to make the different parts easier to discern from each other. Explain the Pentakill Kayle then... It is all black, save for highlights and some really dark grey. Why would they want to make that black and the rest not? It looks like a proper metal skin, the other's don't.
StigtriX (EUW)
: Battle Boss Brand Chromas
Thanks for all the positive comments! Anything you want to see changed or added? Other colours you would like me to experiment with? **EDIT:** Added a yellow version
Joxcab (NA)
: You realize Braum himself is the one that has to willingly choose to die by doing that, right?
In general, you jump in front of a low health ally as Braum, so in busy teamfights I dare say it will happen a lot without the intention being sacrifice.
Joxcab (NA)
: That's hardly relevant, considering it's still balanced.
I would not dare say it is "balanced", but there are a lot of criteria that need to be met in order for the interaction to happen.
TehNACHO (NA)
: And I don't either, I actually address this in my first comment. I also don't care how other people feel until people like you start writing like a middle schooler to get their attention with sensationalist fluff. EDIT: Good to see the post rewritten.
No need to be rude. Point taken with your first post. I might word it differently, but the same message remains. EDIT: OP rewritten.
Joxcab (NA)
: Because that only happens if he intercepts the second projectile. Urgot's R2 executes whoever it kills instantly. However, that's balanced by the fact he can only activate it in the first place at a certain health threshold. However, you can consider Urgot's R2 to do 100% maximum health true damage. By intercepting R2 and being the one to be dragged instead, Braum bypasses the health restriction (since R2 was reactivated on the low health target) and thus takes the damage himself of said full 100% maximum health.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but I do not agree with it staying this way.
TehNACHO (NA)
: >When was it ever OK to one-shot a champion without any effort? Urgot had to ult somebody that low. Expending your Ultimate ability as well as (most likely) fighting a guy to low health is not the same as "one-shot a champion without any effort". The counterplay is to either dodge or bodyblock his Ultimate's FIRST shot, or don't pick dumb fights that will leave you low and executed. EDIT: Good to see the post rewritten.
I still do not think it justifies the current interaction. Sensationalist or not, that is how a lot of player feel about this. I meant "without any effort" vs. Braum. It feels weird that he gets one-shot just like that with full health.
: Why this is happening
When you are playing placement games, the system tries to place you in the league it thinks you belong in. If you have never played ranked before, it might be a rough ride. It will even out eventually, so just keep playing games and read guides, watch streamers or watch YouTube guides made by pros. Good luck! :)
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Sukishoo (NA)
: It looks much more like the Splash art now. Cause that is NOT black in the splash http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fFYsgWbgiKI/U4ePjGuWfLI/AAAAAAAAQow/ftcJDmaAPE0/s1600/Karthus_Splash_4.jpg
No... Just because they have chosen to colour them that way, it does not mean it should stay that way. They are supposed to be a metal band, not a colourful one. Their original skins were all black. You do not seem to know the history of the skins. And as you can see in my comment below: it is just the scene lights that make her dress seem purple/dark blue.
Sukishoo (NA)
: This was the original splash http://www.leaguesplash.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pentakill-Sona.jpg it looked horrible. The chinese one was a tad better http://www.leaguesplash.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pentakill-Sona-Ch.jpg
That's the lighting from the scene lights. Look at her in-game skin: http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/formatted/342012/f57b86f5-ae7a-48b6-b998-5dee3578224f.jpg Why do you insist on being right when you are wrong?
Selegun (NA)
: That blue pops out a bit more compared to the old black. I'm also liking the darker chains as it blends everything to gather without causing the color to fight for your attention.
But it makes them almost invisible, something that ruins the clarity.
: Not just black, they must be blacker than the blackest black, times infinity.
METAL AF! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Sukishoo (NA)
: Was never black in any of the splashes so shouldn't be in-game. End of story. http://www.leaguesplash.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pentakill-Sona.jpg http://www.leaguesplash.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Pentakill-Sona-Ch.jpg
That's the lighting from the scene lights. Look at her in-game skin: http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/formatted/342012/f57b86f5-ae7a-48b6-b998-5dee3578224f.jpg Why do you insist on being right when you are wrong?
Sukishoo (NA)
: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fFYsgWbgiKI/U4ePjGuWfLI/AAAAAAAAQow/ftcJDmaAPE0/s1600/Karthus_Splash_4.jpg enough said.
No... Just because they have chosen to colour them that way, it does not mean it should stay that way. They are supposed to be a metal band, not a colourful one. Their original skins were all black. "Enough said" is such poor argumentation, especially when you do not seem to know the history of the skins. And as you can see in my comment below: it is just the scene lights that make her dress seem purple/dark blue.
: An edited picture how the updated Pentakill Sona should look like
Yes! I borrowed your picture for the thread where all criticism against the colouring of the Pentakill skins are gathered (and gave you cred): https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/AkM8wKYE-my-feelings-about-the-non-black-colours-of-pentakill-skills
: The new Blitzcrank/Corki chromas so sweet! So is Pentakayle!
I really like most of them, but I do not think the neon pink mustache fits with the badass shark bomber: https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-LdWoItxvN9k/WXeVwuephZI/AAAAAAAAp8Y/bwU1TiV4hJE7mnhvQE5DdCrl76kHGAEIACLcBGAs/s1600/88e6837b3ff176cf.png
Aryasex (NA)
: Darius Chroma Skins
An outrageous price (and a weird on at that :P) for the worst chromas the game has to offer. They should be redone or removed. They look like Riot just hit a slider for all colours of the skin, saved a few versions and called it a day. They do not live up to the modern standards at all.
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: > [{quoted}](name=StigtriX,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cHMZjBAM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-07-26T12:23:19.323+0000) > > I have the same opinion about Karthus, Mordekaiser and Yorick too: they go too far away from the all-black metal look. I am baffled that they went with a dark blue colour, and made the chains so dark that they are hard to discern from her dress. They also made her bracelets brown... Brown?!? Really? It ends up looking medieval instead of metal. The new Pentakill Kayle skin is executed well in all-black, so why go away from that for the rest of the skins? The band suddenly looks like members from different groups. I thought you were all about clarity and staying with themes for skins. I must say the Pentakill skins are the most disappointing ones regarding staying with the theme. > > Bring them back... BACK IN BLACK! > **#PentakillBackInBlack** THANK YOU. Like yes the blue is a pretty color and the texture of the skin is new but that shade of blue isn't for a metal band. LIke wtf ?! Just make it a lighter black and add the details that they added to the blue dress to the black one instead. I like that they made her tattoo more visible though. But bluuueuueueee????? ;-; **#PentakillBackInBlack**
Made this thread to gather all criticism: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/AkM8wKYE-my-feelings-about-the-non-black-colours-of-pentakill-skills
  Rioter Comments
: PENTAKILL SONA TEXTURE UPDATE??!? BLUE?
I have the same opinion about Karthus, Mordekaiser and Yorick too: they go too far away from the all-black metal look. I am baffled that they went with a dark blue colour, and made the chains so dark that they are hard to discern from her dress. They also made her bracelets brown... Brown?!? Really? It ends up looking medieval instead of metal. The new Pentakill Kayle skin is executed well in all-black, so why go away from that for the rest of the skins? The band suddenly looks like members from different groups. I thought you were all about clarity and staying with themes for skins. I must say the Pentakill skins are the most disappointing ones regarding staying with the theme. Bring them back... BACK IN BLACK! **#PentakillBackInBlack**
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