MrHaZeYo (NA)
: Well, Irelia was always meant to be more of a sustain damage dealer and not a burst champion. So these changes should help bring her back to her original playstyle.
> [{quoted}](name=MrHaZeYo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAeL8XlU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:46:03.791+0000) > > Well, Irelia was always meant to be more of a sustain damage dealer and not a burst champion. So these changes should help bring her back to her original playstyle. What original playstyle? Her Ultimate is like nothing anymore, just a slow-shit basic ability.
: can walk to a lane and ward jump to auto you a few times with redbuff and deal dmg with a q might even get a flash or a kill depends its def harder to get a kill with him early in comparison to xin and camille but still easier than the rest
> [{quoted}](name=Öskan,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=l9dAamVL,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:48:21.105+0000) > > can walk to a lane and ward jump to auto you a few times with redbuff and deal dmg with a q might even get a flash or a kill depends its def harder to get a kill with him early in comparison to xin and camille but still easier than the rest Opposite jungler can do the same? Whats the difference?
Eyesack (NA)
: I havent even noticed the jungle changes
It's time to open your eyes if u didn't felt the changes.
: So Here's What Happened Today
In the next episode: How I couldn't flush my shit in the toilet.
: i am glad irelia is losing her scaling magic damage ad passive
If they removed Irelias disarm, then following must be removed: Rengar's passive extra AD of every champ Ornn's items upgrades And other overloaded shit which grants extra bonuses for the champs.
: > [{quoted}](name=WøOxer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAeL8XlU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:37:46.600+0000) > > Can't wait when she will be trash champion like she was before rework. Or they'll make her way too overpowered and they'll have to keep trashing and spending all this time getting her in line while they remake her 3 times a year. Maybe they could just go with slight nerfs until things look OK. That's what I'm saying.
> [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bAeL8XlU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:39:14.864+0000) > > Or they'll make her way too overpowered and they'll have to keep trashing and spending all this time getting her in line while they remake her 3 times a year. > > Maybe they could just go with slight nerfs until things look OK. That's what I'm saying. That's not gonna happen *anymore*.
: Can riot just cool it with this upcoming Irelia overhaul?
Can't wait when she will be trash champion like she was before rework. Because that's what Riot does it's best.
: im surprised you agreed so easy? i thought you were gonna say how stupid my suggestion would be? thats a 1st 0_o
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dO9RELgE,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:33:52.103+0000) > > im surprised you agreed so easy? i thought you were gonna say how stupid my suggestion would be? thats a 1st 0_o Leashing should go from jungles in my opinion. Some jungle champs really getting ahead of a good leash.
: decrease leash exp lvl 1 so gromp has to die next to lvl up then the game can resume like normal instead of over the top nerfs to punish players for getting ahead. no artificial gold decrease bs monster hunter debuff.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dO9RELgE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:29:57.624+0000) > > decrease leash exp lvl 1 so gromp has to die next to lvl up then the game can resume like normal instead of over the top nerfs to punish players for getting ahead. no artificial gold decrease bs monster hunter debuff. That's ok for me.
: Riot made Jungle too impactful and now you are all use to that so are crying about getting put back in your place. Jungle is suppose to be behind in level vs Laners and so needs items to gank and so you would not see a gain until 8-10m into a game. This is how it was (not counting the afk farm 30m then kill everyone of S4)
> [{quoted}](name=XXXMurderPenguin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A5GRG51v,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-25T00:41:07.487+0000) > > Riot made Jungle too impactful and now you are all use to that so are crying about getting put back in your place. > > Jungle is suppose to be behind in level vs Laners and so needs items to gank and so you would not see a gain until 8-10m into a game. This is how it was (not counting the afk farm 30m then kill everyone of S4) Wait wait wait always must be behind in levels? No matter how I am doing my job I still must fall behind? Well ok.
: you dont riot keeps punishing junglers for being good at farming/leveling to maintain fair level of power. you will always be behind if you remain in jungle only way to win is the main A DAMAGE CHAMP always braindead DAMAGE/slows = instant kill/gold champions are the new gold sources now for a jungle.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dO9RELgE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-25T09:24:20.484+0000) > > you dont riot keeps punishing junglers for being good at farming/leveling to maintain fair level of power. you will always be behind if you remain in jungle only way to win is the main A DAMAGE CHAMP always braindead DAMAGE/slows = instant kill/gold champions are the new gold sources now for a jungle. What u mean? If they want to refrain power farming so reduce their XP gains if they are getting ahead of laners maximum lvl or smth. Basically what happens now. I am getting invaded once and thats it, im fking useless till the end of the match.
Shxge (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tua1EEso,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-24T16:38:49.122+0000) > > the the entire community of Rakan mains can suck my dick. > > fuck that champion euw player :omegalul:
> [{quoted}](name=Shxge,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tua1EEso,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-24T16:41:45.249+0000) > > euw player :omegalul: eune trash :ultralul:
: Shield 3x dash No mana Low cooldowns Steroids Ranged ult High mobility including over ledges Scales insanely well Easy lane phase, Stun High cc resistance Safe Items/Runes favor her Spammable abilities to engage/disengage easily aswell as dashing out damage FAST. She needs to be tuned down.
> [{quoted}](name=Thaakillah,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZF8Ur4gE,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-01-24T20:46:32.444+0000) > > Shield > 3x dash > No mana > Low cooldowns > Steroids > Ranged ult > High mobility including over ledges > Scales insanely well > Easy lane phase, > Stun > High cc resistance > Safe > Items/Runes favor her > Spammable abilities to engage/disengage easily aswell as dashing out damage FAST. > > She needs to be tuned down. Safe? how she is safe to play as her? She also has hard matchups. High CC resistance? What?... All I see failure Rivens from gold to platinum, none of them hadn't even 1.0 KD. Riven's animations manipulation with AA's is pretty hard, Dope Riven player gonna faceroll u, trash Riven player gonna int.
: The long awaited Sylas login theme
Long waited? I am not waiting this champ to be released at all so neither login screen I want though.
: Jungle was never suppose match levels of laners. They were to be like support always behind.
> [{quoted}](name=XXXMurderPenguin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8vPEVLgw,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-01-24T23:07:20.621+0000) > > Jungle was never suppose match levels of laners. They were to be like support always behind. How u can compare support and jungle role thats like comparing day and night lol.
Naalith (NA)
: Riot: "We're going to nerf level 2 junglers because they're too oppressive"
Jo0o (NA)
: Sounds like you either reached honor 1.0 or got another punishment and dropped to 0.0. You wouldn’t just randomly move to 0.0 for no reason, that’s not how it works.
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sKFxeTfJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-24T18:53:52.737+0000) > > Sounds like you either reached honor 1.0 or got another punishment and dropped to 0.0. You wouldn’t just randomly move to 0.0 for no reason, that’s not how it works. Actually this is not first post I saw ppl complaint about honor reset below 2.
GigglesO (NA)
: I actually like jungle nerfs
Team play? Lol I am setting my self behind in permanent 2 levels, no matter how many kills I get. So I will start just permanently camp the lane and leech the XP, till the laners cries the golden river.
: Is Iron the new bronze, or is iron below bronze?
: > [{quoted}](name=WøOxer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1TAJI2r,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:47:15.521+0000) > > <Removed by Moderation> Again, that has nothing to do with how placement matches work. And it's _expected_ that you'd drop a rank for the new season, especially now that they've introduced another rank.
> [{quoted}](name=DeceasedL0ved0ne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1TAJI2r,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:50:54.505+0000) > > Again, that has nothing to do with how placement matches work. > > And it&#x27;s _expected_ that you&#x27;d drop a rank for the new season, especially now that they&#x27;ve introduced another rank. Nothing changed, actually MMR got pushed up. Bronze gained Silver MMR, Iron gained Bronze MMR So works like this Iron IV = 800 MMR Bronze IV = 1k MMR Iron tier literally gonna make no impact between bronzes. Prove me wrong please.
: > [{quoted}](name=F03,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3BX7IzXZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:19:31.520+0000) > > wait auto fiLL is stiLL a thing? what is the point then ??? Autofill literally means you don't have to try because it does not impact your main positions rank. So if you are a midlaner main and hate playing support you literally can just half ass try if that for the game because it will have no impact on your mid rank. And yes people are not trying on their undesired positions even though others who are on their desired positions are having their games screwed over by it. You are still however forced to play the game meaning you are forced to spend time on something that is not likely beneficial to your main goal.
> [{quoted}](name=Irelia Bot,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3BX7IzXZ,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:23:49.805+0000) > > Autofill literally means you don&#x27;t have to try because it does not impact your main positions rank. So if you are a midlaner main and hate playing support you literally can just half ass try if that for the game because it will have no impact on your mid rank. And yes people are not trying on their undesired positions even though others who are on their desired positions are having their games screwed over by it. > > You are still however forced to play the game meaning you are forced to spend time on something that is not likely beneficial to your main goal. As I saw video if u loose the game on off-role your LP loss will be split so it also touches your main role.
: > [{quoted}](name=WøOxer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1TAJI2r,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:36:18.263+0000) > > Lol no I tested yday queueing Flex, did few games before season reset climbed to bronze I, played the game started in Bronze I, so your statement is wrong. **_"Before season reset."_** It makes no difference.
> [{quoted}](name=DeceasedL0ved0ne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1TAJI2r,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:39:24.946+0000) > > **_&quot;Before season reset.&quot;_** > > It makes no difference. Learn to read. You said *Your first placement game shows you the absolute minimum rank you could possibly get after all eight games.* but I got actually last rank in first game.
: other than jg nerfs. im generally happy with the changes (note on that. dear laners. as jg. we are nerfed to high heaven. im generally not a greedy jungler, and see value in team taking some when needed. but, when we are behind, please STOP taking all our jg. we dont get much xp in lane, and now less in jg. its infinitely harder to help you when our own team is taking our jg. dunno why thats a thing today. maybe just bad luck in my matches. but if you reading this, is the player doing it, please stop)
> [{quoted}](name=keccak256,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FyYIHaOn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-25T05:06:36.703+0000) > > other than jg nerfs. im generally happy with the changes > > (note on that. dear laners. as jg. we are nerfed to high heaven. im generally not a greedy jungler, and see value in team taking some when needed. but, when we are behind, please STOP taking all our jg. we dont get much xp in lane, and now less in jg. its infinitely harder to help you when our own team is taking our jg. dunno why thats a thing today. maybe just bad luck in my matches. but if you reading this, is the player doing it, please stop) Irelia's nerfs are not addressed right. Jungle changes are just absolutely garbage.
: The number of people not reading the fucking changes is astounding. Your first placement game shows you the absolute minimum rank you could possibly get after all eight games. Being placed against silver opponents while your allies are bronze will net you more LP or wins, meanwhile losses don't _lose_ you any LP during your placements.
> [{quoted}](name=DeceasedL0ved0ne,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=q1TAJI2r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-25T06:35:24.598+0000) > > The number of people not reading the fucking changes is astounding. > > Your first placement game shows you the absolute minimum rank you could possibly get after all eight games. Being placed against silver opponents while your allies are bronze will net you more LP, meanwhile losses don&#x27;t _lose_ you any LP during your placements. Lol no I tested yday queueing Flex, did few games before season reset climbed to bronze I, played the game started in Bronze I, so your statement is wrong.
: "it can't get any worse than season 6 dynamic queue" - player base in season 7 and 8
This season gonna be even worse than season 8, amazing.
: Star Guardian Sona <3
I dont want to see this weeb-o skin line anymore it's fking cringe.
: thats a good thing, junglers shouldnt be rewarded with ignoring everything and afk farming for 30 mins. nobody should.
> [{quoted}](name=True Ðamage,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8vPEVLgw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-24T11:08:08.528+0000) > > thats a good thing, junglers shouldnt be rewarded with ignoring everything and afk farming for 30 mins. > nobody should. So then afk farming laners also should be punished like getting less XP as well...
: Patch 9.2 notes
Seems I will be kicked out of jungles this season. Thanks Riot for an amazing season start.
: Honor level
Make a ticket make them burn!
: Season 2019 Starts Now!
Welcome to another shitstorm season.
: RIOT NO LONGER HAS A CINEMATIC TEAM
Source? How do you know that?
: Each auto shreds 8% of your max hp per auto... THAT IS 2X THE AMOUNT OF A LEVEL 1 SHEN Q FOR EVERY FREE AUTO!!!!! DO THE MATH YOU HAVE 100/8 it would take 13 autos without the added base dmg or even crit dmg to kill anyone... fucking idiots man
> [{quoted}](name=WeeningWeiners,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JUoEaNmx,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-01-22T11:32:50.618+0000) > > Each auto shreds 8% of your max hp per auto... THAT IS 2X THE AMOUNT OF A LEVEL 1 SHEN Q FOR EVERY FREE AUTO!!!!! DO THE MATH YOU HAVE 100/8 it would take 13 autos without the added base dmg or even crit dmg to kill anyone... fucking idiots man Check the thread creation time, bonker.
Exıtus (NA)
: I think Riven looks perfect. Just like how I pictured her. Excellent job Rito. I'm happy she finally gets a cinematic and it does her justice. <3
> [{quoted}](name=Yoseii,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wInvEeiL,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-21T20:16:38.490+0000) > > I think Riven looks perfect. Just like how I pictured her. Excellent job Rito. I&#x27;m happy she finally gets a cinematic and it does her justice. &lt;3 The whole video is perfection with the details.
ShySoda (OCE)
: Banned for 2 words
Another showcase how this system is mediocre trash.
: I'm getting a similar problem with my FPS at near the exact time. I'm wondering if it is a bug with the patch. Hmm.
> [{quoted}](name=FelixFurry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ITElAPzh,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-22T10:14:09.844+0000) > > I&#x27;m getting a similar problem with my FPS at near the exact time. I&#x27;m wondering if it is a bug with the patch. Hmm. Its their bug I guess, cuz it's happening since I started playing the game. (after very long break).
: Strange Bug at 12 min
Rito games, there is always a screen freeze for me at 11.5X minute.
englich (EUW)
: the esport watch rewards not working
disabled adblock it worked for me.
: Season 2019: A New Journey
Wtf did I just watch.
: Why was mid Pyke nerfed?
Idk how we can call Pyke support literally "Assassin bot lane" that's all. He havent anything supportive, besides that his ult gives a cut to the assistant player.
: Aweken is way too childish for a 13+ game
I have no idea which part made you think it's childish. They synchronized fight scenes with the music. So prove your point how it's childish because it doesn't make sense for me.
Dynikus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mounting Dread,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3kvazuEI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-22T07:30:23.339+0000) > > Also, didnt he do Zed? Which was actually the best designed assassin in the game (sometimes ruined by itemization but that&#x27;s not the Champion&#x27;s fault) He had virtually no part in zed's design. He threw out an idea or two in casual conversation, but didn't actually have any real part in his design. Also best designed assassin in the game? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3kvazuEI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-22T07:34:47.885+0000) > > He had virtually no part in zed&#x27;s design. He threw out an idea or two in casual conversation, but didn&#x27;t actually have any real part in his design. > Also best designed assassin in the game? > {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Yeah kinda best assassin because all he have to do is press R and AA the adc to one shot him.
LTK KoRo (EUW)
: I don't know how Kha fares in soloq, but in the first day of LPL/LCK/LEC he was kind of terrible.
> [{quoted}](name=LTK KoRo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0UjqTANW,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-22T07:19:59.748+0000) > > I don&#x27;t know how Kha fares in soloq, but in the first day of LPL/LCK/LEC he was kind of terrible. Comparing pro scene and solo Q? You clearly ignoring these facts that they have 5 man communications via voice chat.
: Only Vayne and Fiora have it. Vayne is destroyed early, and Fiora can’t deal the true damage if she doesn’t hit those marks. Mundo and Volibear would run rampant if they did get rid of % true damage.
> [{quoted}](name=The entire team,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BiwtyRuo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-21T17:01:38.725+0000) > > Only Vayne and Fiora have it. Vayne is destroyed early, and Fiora can’t deal the true damage if she doesn’t hit those marks. Mundo and Volibear would run rampant if they did get rid of % true damage. Only vayne and Fiora has true dmg, literally every champ who benefits from Conqueror and Infinite Edge lol.
: Such a logical and well-reasoned post, with many convincing arguments.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZRFWObxB,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-22T07:01:53.262+0000) > > Such a logical and well-reasoned post, with many convincing arguments. What arguments are needed, when they buffed his Q instead of taking of his issue? "Oh well lets buff his dmg, lets give a bruiser who can sustain, build tank and still 2 shot everything in his path".
AngeIo (EUW)
: did you guys get rekt in silver to agree on this? Tristana is just safe. She's nowehere near to broken early/mid game. She was so bad lately that they even buffed her. where did you get this opinion from? did you have a bad game against a tristana who got fed? jesus.
> [{quoted}](name=AngeIo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=korb2xAH,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-01-22T07:02:53.299+0000) > > did you guys get rekt in silver to agree on this? > Tristana is just safe. She&#x27;s nowehere near to broken early/mid game. She was so bad lately that they even buffed her. > where did you get this opinion from? did you have a bad game against a tristana who got fed? jesus. Pretty much this. She isn't broken she just have strong late game.
: Tristana is ranged Lee Sin practically.
> [{quoted}](name=Qrown,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=korb2xAH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-21T12:22:07.651+0000) > > Tristana is ranged Lee Sin practically. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} Elaborate your comparison please.
: Potential Future Champion Teaser in "Awaken"
Claws? Seems an assassin for me.
Ralanr (NA)
: Probably never. The MMORPG market is kind of on a decline, at least here in the west. Too expensive to make for the risk.
> [{quoted}](name=Ralanr,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=KJeO1HrY,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-21T18:18:45.802+0000) > > Probably never. The MMORPG market is kind of on a decline, at least here in the west. > > Too expensive to make for the risk. Pretty much true.
Kioshek (EUNE)
: Well I don't believe Zoe's kit is toxic. :shrug: And never will... (And no, I am not Zoe main... ^^)
> [{quoted}](name=Kioshek,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AVuEmtjz,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-21T12:17:20.004+0000) > > Well I don&#x27;t believe Zoe&#x27;s kit is toxic. :shrug: And never will... > > (And no, I am not Zoe main... ^^) Zoe's kit actually broke the terms of game rules, ask your self why Nidalee has been reworked, due the same reason, but oh lets release a champion with the same gazillion one shot range.
Moody P (NA)
: You have multiple options at every stage of this interaction. - dodge E and go in - bait R and then leave; without R she is helpless, especially if your jungle is involved - go in as soon as she Es, even if she's going to hit you; she can't burst combo if she's CC'd before she can move again, and given that every fighter in the game has means of attacking multiple times in quick succession, whether it's AA resets, ability combos, or just high attack speed, she will have very little time to try to fish for double-hits, if you didn't erase the spirit entirely; when laning is considered, Illaoi can not fight you without landing E unless she has a 3 tentacle nest around her. - Illaoi isn't a threat even if she landed E without at least one additional tentacle near her prior. Her hitting an empty E with no passive backup is a free kill in laning. - If you can't do any of this then you picked a tank and you're not supposed to beat a champion who's dedicated to stomping tanks. Don't put yourself in a position to eat Es all day and back up if you get hooked. The Vessel minigame doesn't do anything. I don't know if you're misinformed or deliberately lying, but Illaoi can never put you in an unfair situation on her own.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cnyloLXp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-21T11:36:10.288+0000) > > You have multiple options at every stage of this interaction. > > - dodge E and go in > - bait R and then leave; without R she is helpless, especially if your jungle is involved > - go in as soon as she Es, even if she&#x27;s going to hit you; she can&#x27;t burst combo if she&#x27;s CC&#x27;d before she can move again, and given that every fighter in the game has means of attacking multiple times in quick succession, whether it&#x27;s AA resets, ability combos, or just high attack speed, she will have very little time to try to fish for double-hits, if you didn&#x27;t erase the spirit entirely; when laning is considered, Illaoi can not fight you without landing E unless she has a 3 tentacle nest around her. > - Illaoi isn&#x27;t a threat even if she landed E without at least one additional tentacle near her prior. Her hitting an empty E with no passive backup is a free kill in laning. > - If you can&#x27;t do any of this then you picked a tank and you&#x27;re not supposed to beat a champion who&#x27;s dedicated to stomping tanks. Don&#x27;t put yourself in a position to eat Es all day and back up if you get hooked. The Vessel minigame doesn&#x27;t do anything. > > I don&#x27;t know if you&#x27;re misinformed or deliberately lying, but Illaoi can never put you in an unfair situation on her own. So how I supposed to get rid off her tentacles? If I try to touch her tentacles she literally can freely poke me.
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