Rïvêń (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OFL6U5tL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:22:40.090+0000) > > Skins aren't a part of the character itself. > > Not saying I dig the white hair, but I'd prioritize more armor over blonde hair any time. Quite positive the first skin at the top he posted is literally just "Unmasked Kayle" as in, that's what her hair is normally suppose to look like under the helm though, I am interested in how they change it however.
> [{quoted}](name=Rïvêń,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OFL6U5tL,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T17:10:07.530+0000) > > Quite positive the first skin at the top he posted is literally just "Unmasked Kayle" as in, that's what her hair is normally suppose to look like under the helm though, I am interested in how they change it however. Sure, it's supposed to represent her without a helmet, but it technically still isn't canon.
: The status quo is playing the game through to the end. That is endangered more frequently with fewer votes needed to surrender.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZJG1Eak,comment-id=0001000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T17:05:11.879+0000) > > The status quo is playing the game through to the end. That is endangered more frequently with fewer votes needed to surrender. Well, good point. But it still ain't quote on quote "true" democracy.
Wofye (NA)
: Her ambiguous generic armor and dull colors reflect non of her prestige or fervor. The new designs white color can make her be seen as a puritan, with bright magenta coloration and gold edges scream "im better than you". Her new iterations bright colors can be seen as a statement. Her current design is again, ambiguous, something kayle as a character is definitely not. Kayle slowly undressing or being bare to the world is a design archetype and is used for many things. It can imply shamelessness, purity or fearlessness. All of these things you can describe kayle as. Kayle is not inheritely a defensive character to begin with. She is an attacker.
> [{quoted}](name=Wofye,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cX9cyVNp,comment-id=000600010000000000000001,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:56:21.888+0000) > > Her ambiguous generic armor and dull colors reflect non of her prestige or fervor. And skin tight suits certainly don't either. > The new designs white color can make her be seen as a puritan, with bright magenta coloration and gold edges scream "im better than you". Her new iterations bright colors can be seen as a statement. And gold doesn't convey the same? > Her current design is again, ambiguous, something kayle as a character is definitely not. Ambigious? In what context exactly?
: I think it's more of an "as the game continues her divinity and drive to deliver justice grows, so she cares less about protecting herself with mortal armor" sort of thing.
> [{quoted}](name=I love cowboys,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cX9cyVNp,comment-id=000600010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:47:29.346+0000) > > I think it's more of an "as the game continues her divinity and drive to deliver justice grows, so she cares less about protecting herself with mortal armor" sort of thing. That just doesn't make sense in a realistic scenario.
: Requiring a larger majority to change the status quo doesn't make it less of a democracy, it just makes the democracy more stable.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZJG1Eak,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:41:57.075+0000) > > Requiring a larger majority to change the status quo doesn't make it less of a democracy, it just makes the democracy more stable. Sure, it's more stable in practice, but we're talking about a voting system in a video game here. The status quo isn't endangered all of a sudden.
Wofye (NA)
: A character is mostly composed of its archetype and writing. Not its looks. I dont see where you get this from.
> [{quoted}](name=Wofye,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cX9cyVNp,comment-id=0006000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:37:10.072+0000) > > A character is mostly composed of its archetype and writing. Not its looks. I dont see where you get this from. The look they have is supposed to visually reflect who they are as a person. Aatrox is very angry and spiteful, so he's a big red demon dude. Evelynn is seductive and lustful, so she has a curvy body and wears very little clothing. etc. etc. Kayle wearing skin tight clothing and slowly undresses more and more of her army as she grows powerful doesn't really support the archetype she's trying to be portrayed as.
: Toggle. +10/s means toggled.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=pEnFhtAc,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:24:50.731+0000) > > Toggle. +10/s means toggled. Weird for a toggle to have a cooldown for almost half a minute.
Wofye (NA)
: Neither is her armor from her classic skin. Your point?
> [{quoted}](name=Wofye,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cX9cyVNp,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-02-19T15:50:19.048+0000) > > Neither is her armor from her classic skin. Your point? The base skin is what the character itself is derived from.
Wolfeur (EUW)
: Try making a Kayle skin without wings, we'll see if skins don't reflect identity
> [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cX9cyVNp,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:55:32.897+0000) > > Try making a Kayle skin without wings, we'll see if skins don't reflect identity Making a Kayle skin without wings wouldn't be possible without making major changes to her model itself.
: > [{quoted}](name=King Braum,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=KNuGtsjv,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:01:37.203+0000) > > I agree, she actually looks weirdly demacian now. Way to much. She is an angel, not a demacian.
> [{quoted}](name=Quinn Is Bae,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=KNuGtsjv,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T16:02:21.100+0000) > > Way to much. She is an angel, not a demacian. She is placed in Demacia on the official Map of Runeterra though.
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=00000002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:44:06.633+0000) > > She's currently in Demacia and her armor has the same aesthetics. > > Regardless, Targon is supposed to be Greco-Roman. They didn't really have tight skin suits there either. At CURRENT she's in Demacia, but that was pre-rework. Her rework seems to indicate she's Targonian, so we can't make assumptions about her design based on where they lumped her when she had nowhere else to go. Morgana was placed in Demacia too... Also, below are images of Leona and Diana, where you can see the skin tight suits that their outfits incorporate. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c2/Diana_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20140927165601 https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Leona_0.jpg > > I mean, it's not like you are physically incapable of "bending and twisting" just because you wear armor. You're not, but from a computer graphic design perspective, if you have a character built with a large breast plate as part of their chest, certain movements will stretch and bend that piece of armor in ways that it physically shouldn't be able to stretch, which people will notice. So for instance, in the gif below, if there was an armor plate on the bicep, when it flexed, that plate would bulge like in the gif, which is not what armor should be doing. http://facweb.cs.depaul.edu/sgrais/images/Squash%20and%20Stretch/arm.gif
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=000000020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:51:25.030+0000) > > At CURRENT she's in Demacia, but that was pre-rework. Her rework seems to indicate she's Targonian, so we can't make assumptions about her design based on where they lumped her when she had nowhere else to go. Morgana was placed in Demacia too... They are both in Demacia on the official Map of Runeterra, and it's very, very obvious that Kayle's new armor design is similar to the design seen on the Temple of the Lightbringers. Her color palette, with the exception of purple, is also the colors predominately shown in Demacia. > Also, below are images of Leona and Diana, where you can see the skin tight suits that their outfits incorporate. > > https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c2/Diana_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20140927165601 > https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/img/champion/splash/Leona_0.jpg Okay, well, yeah, I guess I made kind of a moot point. The point still stands though. Leona and Diana have been in skin tight suits since their inception. Kayle wasn't. > You're not, but from a computer graphic design perspective, if you have a character built with a large breast plate as part of their chest, certain movements will stretch and bend that piece of armor in ways that it physically shouldn't be able to stretch, which people will notice. So for instance, in the gif below, if there was an armor plate on the bicep, when it flexed, that plate would bulge like in the gif, which is not what armor should be doing. > http://facweb.cs.depaul.edu/sgrais/images/Squash%20and%20Stretch/arm.gif When has realism ever stopped anything? Why should artists be restricted by what is physically possible in our world when we're in a fantasy world?
Tedo58 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZJG1Eak,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:51:47.836+0000) > > You can't really compare not surrendering in a video game to real-life terrorism. There are different forms of terrorism who says mental one is not real terrorism?
> [{quoted}](name=Tedo58,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZJG1Eak,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-02-19T15:26:12.363+0000) > > There are different forms of terrorism who says mental one is not real terrorism? terrorism for terrorism /ˈtɛrərɪzəm/Submit noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims. Not surrendering in a video-game is neither violence, intimidation, nor is it in pursuit of political aims.
: It's called needing a super majority, and it's a pretty common part of democracies.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZJG1Eak,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:48:52.158+0000) > > It's called needing a super majority, and it's a pretty common part of democracies. It's not true democracy if outcomes aren't always based on what the majority thinks is right.
: https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-unmasked.jpg https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-battleborn.jpg https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-aether-wing.jpg I'm not asking for Riot to get rid of her helmet, but the hair she has in this rework of hers is disgusting! https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ffixlkmb.jpg%5B%2FIMG%5D&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=425
> [{quoted}](name=SitPoopyPants,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OFL6U5tL,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:47:17.013+0000) > > https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-unmasked.jpg > https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-battleborn.jpg > https://www.mobafire.com/images/champion/skins/landscape/kayle-aether-wing.jpg > I'm not asking for Riot to get rid of her helmet, but the hair she has in this rework of hers is disgusting! > https://media.lolusercontent.com/api/embedly/1/image/resize?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ffixlkmb.jpg%5B%2FIMG%5D&key=a45e967db0914c7fb472fd4381e6c85b&width=425 Skins aren't a part of the character itself. Not saying I dig the white hair, but I'd prioritize more armor over blonde hair any time.
: representation matters, having a character that is powerful that you can also relate to isn't THAT small a thing, especially when its already in the game. It already WAS that way, so why change it?
> [{quoted}](name=MalrothDragonia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Vm89sHYK,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-18T18:19:29.950+0000) > > representation matters, having a character that is powerful that you can also relate to isn't THAT small a thing, especially when its already in the game. It already WAS that way, so why change it? You relate to people based on whether or not they hold something in one hand or the other? I'm not supporting the change, but what?
: "They wanted to make Kayle more fan-servicey" really isn't the reasoning behind Kayle's new design.
Wolfeur (EUW)
: That's not the point. Even with skins, the identity is there. People weren't complaining about Aether Wing Kayle not having armor because armor is, in the end, not the important part of Kayle's visual identity.
> [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cX9cyVNp,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:46:37.840+0000) > > That's not the point. Even with skins, the identity is there. People weren't complaining about Aether Wing Kayle not having armor because armor is, in the end, not the important part of Kayle's visual identity. Nobody was complaining about Aether Wing Kayle not having a lot of armor ***because it's a damn skin.***
Wolfeur (EUW)
: "Armor is an integral part of Kayle's identity"
Skins aren't reflective of the character's identity.
: The removal of Kayle's armor makes sense. (Sort of)
I understand the reasoning, and you make a pretty decent point. But come on man. It's not like putting Kayle in less armor is suddenly going to help new players just starting out by a large margin. If Riot really stands by this reasoning, why do they even bother making skins like Marauder Ashe or Warden Sivir, which puts carries in heavy armor? Or are skins exempt from this rule?
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:37:17.158+0000) > > Well, yeah, Runeterra as a whole is a mish-mash of all kinds of different time periods. > > But Demacia itself is supposed to be very medieval-esque, and Kayle's new design just looks weird in that context. > Kayle isn't Demacian. The blurb on the main page about the teaser movie indicates that she's a part of the Celestial Aspect of Justice in Targon. > Going by that logic, Kayle shouldn't have been in heavy plate armor from the beginning. Maybe not, but when Kayle was initially conceived, they didn't have the technology to make champions as fluid and mobile and acrobatic as they have in recent years, so her movements were always stiffer because of that. The issue of bending and twisting and all of this as part of her animations was never really a thing before.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=0000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:41:17.468+0000) > > Kayle isn't Demacian. The blurb on the main page about the teaser movie indicates that she's a part of the Celestial Aspect of Justice in Targon. She's currently in Demacia and her armor has the same aesthetics. Regardless, Targon is supposed to be Greco-Roman. They didn't really have tight skin suits there either. > Maybe not, but when Kayle was initially conceived, they didn't have the technology to make champions as fluid and mobile and acrobatic as they have in recent years, so her movements were always stiffer because of that. The issue of bending and twisting and all of this as part of her animations was never really a thing before. I mean, it's not like you are physically incapable of "bending and twisting" just because you wear armor.
: I saw a few days ago the trailer of Frozen 2 and I thougth "hey, why do I haven't seen the og Frozen yet" I watched it and it's amazing
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=vg1XJPVy,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:28:14.188+0000) > > I saw a few days ago the trailer of Frozen 2 and I thougth "hey, why do I haven't seen the og Frozen yet" > > I watched it and it's amazing Yeah the movie is okay but commercialism ruined it.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ofF47pbK,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:16:38.079+0000) > > Straight up banning other languages seems a bit extreme though. straight up filling the chat with some random language is hella annoying tho I COULD just start creaming in the chat in my own language but i don't because it's dumb and i understand that it would annoy others
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ofF47pbK,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:20:56.278+0000) > > straight up filling the chat with some random language is hella annoying tho > I COULD just start creaming in the chat in my own language but i don't because it's dumb and i understand that it would annoy others I see your point, but establishing a penalty system simply for the usage of another language probably wouldn't be taken as that popular of a decision.
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=0000000200000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:59:55.996+0000) > > Unless they're "pulling inspiration" from games that exactly do make their angels sexualized to rake in cash, nobody that've tried to portray angels seriously puts them in tight skin suits. > > Also, why would they be applying "modern aesthetics" and "costume design" to a game that takes place in pseudo-medieval ages? Because they've always modernized costuming to some degree, as does pretty much any game that's trying to be sheer entertainment and less of a historical fiction. Costumes like Sona's, Zoe's, and Lux's aren't "pseudo-medieval," and god knows Camille, Vi, and Caitlyn aren't wearing "pseudo-medieval" costumes. Even Ezreal's and Tahm Kench's outfits don't adhere to the same "pseudo-medieval" design, and are more akin to modern designs. So you can't really make the point that League is somehow missing the mark for historical accuracy, when none of their designs are intended to be completely period accurate. This isn't to say I completely agree with her costume choice though, I was just pointing out how from a game character design aspect why she may have been put in more flexible clothing instead of heavy armor.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:22:18.933+0000) > > Because they've always modernized costuming to some degree, as does pretty much any game that's trying to be sheer entertainment and less of a historical fiction. Costumes like Sona's, Zoe's, and Lux's aren't "pseudo-medieval," and god knows Camille, Vi, and Caitlyn aren't wearing "pseudo-medieval" costumes. Even Ezreal's and Tahm Kench's outfits don't adhere to the same "pseudo-medieval" design, and are more akin to modern designs. So you can't really make the point that League is somehow missing the mark for historical accuracy, when none of their designs are intended to be completely period accurate. Well, yeah, Runeterra as a whole is a mish-mash of all kinds of different time periods. But Demacia itself is supposed to be very medieval-esque, and Kayle's new design just looks weird in that context. > This isn't to say I completely agree with her costume choice though, I was just pointing out how from a game character design aspect why she may have been put in more flexible clothing instead of heavy armor. Going by that logic, Kayle shouldn't have been in heavy plate armor from the beginning.
Rako (EUW)
: No i dont mean Thunderlord, i mean the old Electrocute. They nerfed it damage and lowered the cooldown. It was a big mistake.
> [{quoted}](name=Rako,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kianyzRI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:18:19.311+0000) > > No i dont mean Thunderlord, i mean the old Electrocute. They nerfed it damage and lowered the cooldown. It was a big mistake. This ain't it chief.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ofF47pbK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:07:15.398+0000) > > Ye same. > > It only makes communication between people more convoluted than it needs to be. I wish we had an english only server in europe which -like it's name tells us- was english only, no other languages in the client or in the chat
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ofF47pbK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:14:54.087+0000) > > I wish we had an english only server in europe > which -like it's name tells us- was english only, no other languages in the client or in the chat Straight up banning other languages seems a bit extreme though.
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QykV4Jpq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:39:08.060+0000) > > I think you should've specified *allied* Darius. > > Letting an enemy Darius get his ult off is not a good decision. I'm gonna be honest with I was gonna tell you to STFU because their is no way anyone could be that stupid that they would have to be told to not let an enemy Darius ult them but then I remember where I am.
> [{quoted}](name=The Stripy Bag,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QykV4Jpq,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:06:25.069+0000) > > I'm gonna be honest with I was gonna tell you to STFU because their is no way anyone could be that stupid that they would have to be told to not let an enemy Darius ult them but then I remember where I am. You don't have to be a meanie about it :/
: Please no more releasing RGMs for an entire month.
Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to play ARURF if you don't enjoy it.
: @Riot: Reksai still needs more love to bring her into play without making her OP
Give her her old ult if she has below 100 Rage, and give her her new ult if she is at 100 Rage.
Rako (EUW)
: Can we revert the Electrocute nerf/change since Adc's are superior again and almost unkillable?
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: i honestly don't understand why we need other languages than english
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ofF47pbK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:54:44.518+0000) > > i honestly don't understand why we need other languages than english Ye same. It only makes communication between people more convoluted than it needs to be.
: Yet another fix kayle thread
The only problem is that I highly doubt Riot will actually change anything major, the model already looks pretty much finished (her neck is a bit disturbing though). As for her skins, it's anybody's game really. The only skins that are below today's standards would be Viridian, Silver, and Unmasked. Viridian will probably be turned into the Elderwood skin line since it's the one it fits the most with, but the rest are unknown. Someone suggested turning Unmasked into a Traditional skin with Kayle's old armor design, but like I've said, there's nothing really concrete about how Kayle's skins are going to look.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear in my point. My reply was meant to point out that it will be universally on average better for AP users since they will "even if slightly" benefit from both. while quite a lot of AD users (especially later releases) have next to no magic damage integrated into their kit And of course that hybrids drool over both stats
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AwUA5EMK,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:59:24.241+0000) > > Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear in my point. > > My reply was meant to point out that it will be universally on average better for AP users since they will "even if slightly" benefit from both. while quite a lot of AD users (especially later releases) have next to no magic damage integrated into their kit > > And of course that hybrids drool over both stats I mean, they could change it to Adaptive for all I care. I don't exactly see any hybrid champions abusing this rune, much less anyone that has actual dashes in their kits.
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-02-19T07:19:20.272+0000) > > Pretty sure Biblical Angels don't wear latex suits. Well no shit, but Riot isn't remaking the bible into a video game. They're pulling inspiration from lots of sources, while also applying modern aesthetics and costume design.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2sNsG9xe,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:53:39.753+0000) > > Well no shit, but Riot isn't remaking the bible into a video game. They're pulling inspiration from lots of sources, while also applying modern aesthetics and costume design. Unless they're "pulling inspiration" from games that exactly do make their angels sexualized to rake in cash, nobody that've tried to portray angels seriously puts them in tight skin suits. Also, why would they be applying "modern aesthetics" and "costume design" to a game that takes place in pseudo-medieval ages?
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ut9tA58Z,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:30:15.806+0000) > > At the expense of the consumers of his product. You mean at the expense of a few people who whine on the boards.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ut9tA58Z,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:54:27.973+0000) > > You mean at the expense of a few people who whine on the boards. I.E, consumers of his product. Love the boards or despise them, they are still customers. Besides, it's not just "oh look, the boards are complaining again". The Kayle mains sub-reddit itself wants Kayle to be more armored.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Everyone benefits from lethality because if you aren't weaving autos in your rotations you are doing it wrong. And sure, some champs don't benefit at all from m-pene but some benefit from both almost equally. So, I ask again, is this rune _intended_ to be more attractive to hybrid champions? Or is it simply an oversight?
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AwUA5EMK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:52:51.750+0000) > > Everyone benefits from lethality because if you aren't weaving autos in your rotations you are doing it wrong. And sure, some champs don't benefit at all from m-pene but some benefit from both almost equally. Which is why I said ***heavily,*** not just "benefits". > So, I ask again, is this rune _intended_ to be more attractive to hybrid champions? Or is it simply an oversight? Oversight probably.
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: What is it? Big, crazy, insane and a doctor?
> What is essential to his character in any aspect you can think of that must be kept? His sillyness.
Tedo58 (EUNE)
: 21st Century Terrorism.
You can't really compare not surrendering in a video game to real-life terrorism.
: Looks like someone is having trouble accepting democracy. https://i.postimg.cc/d1bXt39j/GD5Gp5g.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=TinkerTantrums,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oZJG1Eak,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-19T12:42:32.366+0000) > > Looks like someone is having trouble accepting democracy. > > https://imgur.com/GD5Gp5g It's half-assed democracy because 3 v 2 votes don't go through.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Sudden impact
Anyone that benefits heavily from Lethality usually doesn't benefit very well from Magic Penetration, and vice versa.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Then he abuses grasp like gp or slows for 40% with mallet.
> [{quoted}](name=FireDrizzle,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A819uN96,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:44:44.197+0000) > > Then he abuses grasp like gp or slows for 40% with mallet. Well is one or the other. Either he gets to have good itemization, or he doesn't.
: Let it go
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=vg1XJPVy,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:40:42.331+0000) > > Let it go I'm going to stop you here before you do something you're going to regret.
: If you see a Darius about to ult
I think you should've specified *allied* Darius. Letting an enemy Darius get his ult off is not a good decision.
Done25 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A819uN96,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-19T07:54:41.403+0000) > > All of those champions don't have 3.00 Attack Speed. They also don't have really shitty itemization.
> [{quoted}](name=Done25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A819uN96,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-19T13:34:21.301+0000) > > They also don't have really shitty itemization. Hey, I'm all for Urgot counting as a melee champion.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Riot please give us this Kayle
And make a chroma turning the purple into red and it's all good.
: They are not gonna do this to Morde tho
> [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bqTBZWOs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-19T12:57:18.447+0000) > > They are not gonna do this to Morde tho Which is biased.
: Kayle Rework/Update Looks Bad
I agree with the armor, but "long blonde hair" has never been a core part of her character.
: I'd love to see a new defensive summoner spell.
Barrier just needs to be more useful.
Madjack01 (EUW)
: Gotta praise that man for good taste! He knows what he wants and goes through with it, despite the inevitable heat.
> [{quoted}](name=Madjack01,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Ut9tA58Z,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-19T12:26:57.978+0000) > > Gotta praise that man for good taste! > He knows what he wants and goes through with it, despite the inevitable heat. At the expense of the consumers of his product.
: https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/es/#match-details/EUW1/3936115763/24439834?tab=overview I just had this game using Project Ashe AND listening to Frozen soundtrack to have a full immersion. I would have feeded to oblivion if I was using Marauder Ashe, that's proof enough for me.
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=vg1XJPVy,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T12:20:33.195+0000) > > https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/es/#match-details/EUW1/3936115763/24439834?tab=overview > > I just had this game using Project Ashe AND listening to Frozen soundtrack to have a full immersion. > > I would have feeded to oblivion if I was using Marauder Ashe, that's proof enough for me. Fake news. That Sylas was win-trading.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Oversexualising Kayle is unnacceptable
Kayle was the only person who stuck her neck out for BP.
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