we have that one already {{champion:23}}

aram w0w

this is the kind of shitpost we need more of

not in 2 weeks at least lol

actually the interaction with the other player on lane comes from cs'ing. cs'ing is the thing that forces you to interact with the other player as long as you don't play some stupid shit champ like {{champion:34}}.

he is on the strong side atm, but saying he has no counterplay is just bs

> [{quoted}](name=Seen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3muHAA8o,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-21T22:51:10.077+0000) > > Our lastest batch of champions, Zoe, Xayah/Rakan, Pyke, Ornn, Kayn, 3/6 of them has knock ups and the other 2 has some other disgusting mechanic. Such as pyke have a pull which is an airborne skill and can't be reduced by tenacity either. Even then, combined they still have way more other hard cc than knockups.

> [{quoted}](name=KnightsKemplar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3muHAA8o,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-06-21T22:39:59.080+0000) > > I don't feel knock-ups are really doing a good job at that. They've become pretty frequent. That might not be a problem *except* that tenacity exists. And it's pretty useless against a variety of champs with a lot of cc; Nami was the first one to come out that I remember, but since then we've had many more. Actually if you look at that list: https://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Knockup_champion There are only 31 champions with knockups, and many of those have been around the game for ages. Knockups really aren't that frequent. Almost every champion has some kind of hard cc that isn't a knockup, and even champions with a knockup often have other hard cc in their kits that get affected by tenacity.

Would kind of feel just bullshitty, especially against squishy champions, if you manage to cc them and they just take no damage suddenly. Just wouldn't feel good at all if you can't kill that {{champion:11}} in time while he is cc'ed. Also, it would kind of defeat the whole purpose of knockups, because then knockups would be the same as stuns as long as {{champion:157}} isn't in the game. It wouldn't be hard at all to code the game in a way to make tenacity affect knockups, but the whole point of knockups is the same as true damage, that you cc the enemy for exactly that duration and nothing less. And tenacity isn't useless at all the way it is right now, stuns, snares and all the cc affected by tenacity is still the majority by far. Everytime I don't buy {{item:3111}} it feels like I'm cc'ed for years once one hits me.

> [{quoted}](name=LagzMagee,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=RJnN4Wm4,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-21T15:28:32.146+0000) > > Lmao. So they walk away flaming still? Yes, I love when the worst type of players get away with it! Just start thinking. Maybe there is a reason they walk away while you have multiple accounts permabanned. Apart from the fact you don't even know if they actually got away.

in summer

you could also just use youtube to mp3 and run it with any media player

It wasn't easier before? You got like 100ip per win with the old system. Also, Runes.

yes so bad that they even get played bot now

I agree, delete rito

and still I only see tanks on every lane

yeah sure, there aren't enough tanks running around already

> [{quoted}](name=Judge Arcadia,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7IM9AJdu,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-18T00:01:51.043+0000) > > Do you know how hard you have to throw a 10k gold lead? Especially at that level of play. Well it's still NA LCS

> [{quoted}](name=Darth Karto,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=wKJAiEZb,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-06-16T15:50:04.418+0000) > > d does not have anything associated to ignite or fire you don't always take ignite. D simply stands for Don't put flash here

Left is Championship Zed Right is God King Darius _flies away_

{{champion:119}}

sounds good. doesn't work. if your ADC sucks it's gg. we had this scenario back in season 5. never. ever. again. you literally couldn't do any damage by mid game if your ADC was retarded, and that happens far too often. if this meta comes back, i'm sure as hell outta here.

no, that would mean that a team with 3+ tanks will be way stronger, and we got League of Tanks again.

no, it would make tanks and sustain fighters op and make every fight against a fed tank feel like it's pointless anyway

Like I said, Karma needs them. {{champion:40}} {{champion:117}} were broken long enough. > Shields supports were broken Yes they were? If you want to tell me they were not, don't even bother replying. I honestly don't want another season of seeing them in literally every game, no matter if it's SoloQ or pro play.

Because half of this posts think the issue gets fixed if you just lower damage by 10%, which is simply bullshit. The reason why damage got so high in the first place is because Riot started power creeping everything.

Because shield supports were broken before and needed that nerf, and Assassins were not despite what the boards say. The only one needing compensation buffs is {{champion:43}}.

You guys prob just got {{champion:127}} ulted.

yes

still no

loool

no

Well he isn't?

Really? Wu has 7.61% pr with 53.72% wr. Lee has 13.24% pr with 46.87% wr. I get that a much higher pickrate usually lowers the winrate slightly. **But the winrate difference is even greater than the pickrate difference** So get your biased bs out here.

Can't believe you actually just called {{champion:62}} weak and {{champion:64}} strong lmao http://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCBiCra4URA

Ok then let's say I did. But for some reason, I can see that Assassins actually have plenty of counterplay even if it isn't obvious.

Not "community" make the same mistake. More like, Riot don't make the mistake again to listen to all these ADC players that instantly cry around the moment their class isn't top tier for a week.

but did I? :P

That's the biggest silver talk I've heard this week.

ah you are one of those "assassins have no counterplay" dudes

> Have you seen how tanks are getting blown up I still have to see any tank that has 1 or 2 armor items and isn't totally behind get "blown up". > And squishes getting blown up by zed and assassins? I mean, that's kinda what the whole point of an Assassin is.

What does wr have to do with anything? His pickrate is higher than 10% in Diamond+ games, and he is only one of the many tankier champs we see on bot now. Doesn't change the fact that we currently have tanks and bruisers going bot. Not complaining that we finally got some diversity, but ADCs just got their long deserved nerfs, and if you now lower total damage on top of that, tanks will become even stronger.

LMFAO fucking orrn bot is meta

it's not like we are already playing tanks everywhere already but ok

How often.. basic knowledge won't help you if your enemy has far _more_ than basic knowledge on that champion. It just has to be one situation where you don't pay enough attention and that could cost you the game already.

But people are idiots and diamond is still nothing special. Especially Diamond 5 is the real cancer of this game, but that's besides the point. It's not enough if you know how a champions kit works on paper. Even high elo players lack experience in playing against some champions that are never picked. You know, if you play against what's often picked over and over again you get experience in playing against them, know what they are able to do in what situations and in which situations you are able to make your move, can calculate their damage and so on. It's the whole point of getting better, you'll get routine in playing against champions. But if now some dude comes with a champion you are not used to playing against minimum every fifth game, suddenly you don't know for sure on what things you have to focus. And if that dude knows his champion while you don't, he is gonna have the advantage. Sure, you know his basics, that he can jump and knockup you and you should dodge that, that he can revive and so on, but honestly, could you just say that you are able to fully understand his damage and his power spikes? That's exactly the point. You, and your whole team, lack experience in knowing that one enemies critical power spikes and possibilities, and that could cause that you neglect his strengths in a critical moment and suddenly get your ass handed to you. It comes from experience to know what you can and what you cannot do against enemy champions. If you want to tell me that you weren't ever aced by a Yi once cause you didn't save your cc for him in a fight while not knowing his position and he suddenly comes and kills your whole team, you are lying. But if that happens a few times, you'll know how to react in that situation from than on. And that's exactly the thing with Aatrox. No one really knows his possibilities from lack of experience. It doesn't matter if you are low or high elo, you'll still have 10 times less experience in handling that champion than against almost every other champion.

you don't get what i'm saying so whatever

Because pretty much only his mains play him. And even in diamond+ there are still people who don't fully understand how to play against him. It's not about the basics of his kit, but when someone who understands the damage and possibilities of their champ plays against enemies who don't you often end up surprising them, and that goes for all elos. Still, he is never picked in pro play and pretty easy to deny if you play against an enemy that doesn't main or one trick him.

Aatrox currently isn't balanced, he is kept in a pretty weak state actually. His biggest strength is that no one knows what his kit does.