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: > [{quoted}](name=Centerpoint360,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Ic6hFgA,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2017-06-30T05:25:37.835+0000) > > Sivir is the strongest late-game adc, bar none, including Twitch. Any buffs need to be treated lightly. {{champion:51}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:18}} are stronger late game than her.
> [{quoted}](name=ZapMyHeart,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Ic6hFgA,comment-id=000e0002,timestamp=2017-06-30T17:22:00.944+0000) > > {{champion:51}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:18}} are stronger late game than her. lucian?
Jeedos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wilbor,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Ic6hFgA,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2017-06-30T08:23:46.545+0000) > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Riot really careful with buffing/nerfing sivir due to her being the most spammed ADC in lcs when she's meta? I remember in season 6 when Riot buffed her w (now crits) she was either picked or banned (don't recall a game without her) in lcs, the casters actually said "well.. it's sivir" when sneaky got a quadra.. > > don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorites, but once buffed she just dominates in competitive with no contest because she's like made to these kind of games with her utillity and insane waveclear. she was nerfed so many times, I really just think she needs a total rework really.. That's why I haven't proposed buffing her W.
> [{quoted}](name=Jeedos,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5Ic6hFgA,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2017-06-30T11:32:01.561+0000) > > That's why I haven't proposed buffing her W. Thing is her w is still buffed, they nerfed her when she was absolutely ridiculous, when streamers who main adc and hated her still played her because "sivir is hypercarry now".the w crit buff just changed her, she's now a late game carry that once she has 3 items can really stomp teamfights (53% win rate late game) Her biggest problem is getting there, till the 3 items powerspike she's really not impactful, so if you are going to buff her early, she will once again be a problem in competetive. I honestly think her kit is just a mess, she needs a rework, it's one of these champions that is really hard to balance only for solo-q.
Divewing (OCE)
: I'd be lying if I said I wasn't biased, but I personally feel there is no way that a "pull into your team" will ever be balanced
> [{quoted}](name=Saïx,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=R6EkwXfb,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-06-30T08:59:42.364+0000) > > I'd be lying if I said I wasn't biased, but I personally feel there is no way that a "pull into your team" will ever be balanced pull who? blitz can pull only one, and if you, as the carry position yourself right during the mid late game when teams are grouping, blitz will have to either pull nautilus or just be uselss.
Divewing (OCE)
: Best part about Blitzcrank being meta?
People are so afraid of blitz.. I remember I was like that once.. I'm a Janna main, every game vs Blitz is the same... I warn everyone blitz is going to invade I rush to the bush, ward it, go to my lane, see them coming and type in all chat "it's getting old".. and they back off.. lane starts, stay behind minions, he misses a grab the lane becomes 2v1 for more than 10 seconds so we go crazy on the adc. repeat. .. Believe me, Thresh is the one that needs to be nerfed, a champion that truly truly got everything, and with how "mechanically complicated" he is, currently sits on 53% win rate with the MOST play rate of supports, not some squishy melee support that has only one ability and it's a skill shot..
Jeedos (EUW)
: Buff Sivir
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Riot really careful with buffing/nerfing sivir due to her being the most spammed ADC in lcs when she's meta? I remember in season 6 when Riot buffed her w (now crits) she was either picked or banned (don't recall a game without her) in lcs, the casters actually said "well.. it's sivir" when sneaky got a quadra.. don't get me wrong, she's one of my favorites, but once buffed she just dominates in competitive with no contest because she's like made to these kind of games with her utillity and insane waveclear. she was nerfed so many times, I really just think she needs a total rework really..
Leylania (EUW)
: First of all, losing streaks happen. Second of all I just watched over a few of your last games and I don't see where your botlane is in anyway winning, Your adc always has more deaths and basically no kills at all. How is that possible if you are 'winning'? I'm a support main and me and my adc premade (we don't use TS or discord etc so no advantages from that) often face teams where multiple lanes start to feed hard but still we win the game. Because we actually WIN our lane and he often has 4+ kills after 10 minutes and I keep him alive so he can use his lead properly. A good botlane can win a game 2v8, so work on yourself if you want to win.
> [{quoted}](name=Leylania,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=y8WcgEk7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-25T13:23:02.625+0000) > > First of all, losing streaks happen. Second of all I just watched over a few of your last games and I don't see where your botlane is in anyway winning, Your adc always has more deaths and basically no kills at all. How is that possible if you are 'winning'? I'm a support main and me and my adc premade (we don't use TS or discord etc so no advantages from that) often face teams where multiple lanes start to feed hard but still we win the game. Because we actually WIN our lane and he often has 4+ kills after 10 minutes and I keep him alive so he can use his lead properly. A good botlane can win a game 2v8, so work on yourself if you want to win. Ok unless i made a mistake i see u play a lot of janna and soraka. Can you tell mw how u win that hard with janna in lane that ur adc has 4+ kills in 10 min? Im srsly asking lol i want to learn what im doing wrong
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: >Supports are not real Tanks Depending on the champ i can't agree with this > nor do they need to fulfill the role of a frontline. Yeah. Btw u don't always need a tank nor an ap (low elo need to understand this, my elo inclued). >Support items don't give you the same stats a tank solo laner gets, and you don't really want the support to be in the frontline cause it just means your adc or apc is left alone in the back with 0 peeling, and ofc, he doesn't survive for long like let's say sejuani, zac, etc.. I don't agree. usualy u don't team fight before 3 rd items (before its just skirmish), by this time support items are enough depending on ur champ. {{item:3109}} this is really strong imo, and its just one example. >Support items don't give you the same stats a tank solo laner gets Tank top aren't tankier because items (only) but because they have a lead in xp and they start building tankiness since the first back. >Am I wrong thinking that? Like I really don't think supports should fulfill this role, yes if there's no other choice, that might us well pick a more "tankish" support, but it still puts you in a disadvantage while the others are pleased thinking their comp is now perfect. Yes... u are wrong : - thinking support SHOULD'N fill is role. This role as toplane is really flexible. - thinking u SHOULD pick x because of ur mate. u pick either what u want to (or what's u know to play) or what's YOU thinks is better for this game. from what i see, u are a {{champion:40}} main... What's would be better than this pick atm ?? (except {{champion:117}} ). don't listen to them. Just play, make ur choice and build ur experience
> [{quoted}](name=Ryuumoku no koke,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xKaEK0EE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-06-20T18:45:42.754+0000) > > Depending on the champ i can't agree with this > > Yeah. Btw u don't always need a tank nor an ap (low elo need to understand this, my elo inclued). > > I don't agree. usualy u don't team fight before 3 rd items (before its just skirmish), by this time support items are enough depending on ur champ. > > {{item:3109}} this is really strong imo, and its just one example. > > Tank top aren't tankier because items (only) but because they have a lead in xp and they start building tankiness since the first back. > > Yes... u are wrong : > - thinking support SHOULD'N fill is role. This role as toplane is really flexible. > - thinking u SHOULD pick x because of ur mate. u pick either what u want to (or what's u know to play) or what's YOU thinks is better for this game. > > from what i see, u are a {{champion:40}} main... What's would be better than this pick atm ?? (except {{champion:117}} ). don't listen to them. > > Just play, make ur choice and build ur experience I agree with your general point! maybe i'm a bit misunderstood. 1. I'm not saying supports can't be tanks, I mean that if you really want a tank they can't contest the likes of sej, zac, voli and such who can really stay in the fight more than any tanky support would. 2. and my main point is - if the support needs to fill the frontline role, cause no one picked it, it means that either you will have to be the frontline and your carry won't have any peel that game, or you will play peeling role but your team still has no frontline champ. and again - this is NOT a post against tanky supports, while I do main Janna, I also main Taric and think he is a beast (and against an AD team he is more than a tank late game - almost immune) but it's either now I will have a frontline so I can peel for my adc with his e and ult, or I would have to be the one that engage with my flash+e and well good luck with shaco in the back cait =P
Escheton (EUW)
: I think you are a couple of patches behind. With the exceptions of certain OP picks, Support tanks perform better at the role than Top lane tanks now.
> [{quoted}](name=Escheton,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xKaEK0EE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-20T17:58:11.984+0000) > > I think you are a couple of patches behind. With the exceptions of certain OP picks, Support tanks perform better at the role than Top lane tanks now. I have no problem with picking tank supports! I'm saying that if it's the only champ in the match that can be in the frontline, whos going to peel for the carries?
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Wilbor (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Hallbuster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:33:33.084+0000) > > A lot, and a lot of Vladimir, 300+ games with him so far while I have around 270k mastery points on that champion. well first of all - what is a lot? you want 2 champs max! and I mean it. you are not a smurf. you're in a elo (so am I btw, gold isn't that better) where you don't really play a smart macro game. pick two champs (and you need them to be the "right" champions for your level) and just spam them and you will go out. playing too many champs will just make your game inconsistent.
> [{quoted}](name=Wilbor,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:35:59.747+0000) > > well first of all - what is a lot? you want 2 champs max! and I mean it. you are not a smurf. you're in a elo (so am I btw, gold isn't that better) where you don't really play a smart macro game. pick two champs (and you need them to be the "right" champions for your level) and just spam them and you will go out. playing too many champs will just make your game inconsistent. if you want a general advice - if you play mid, or can play mid. go annie, spam annie. she's one of the best elo boosters champ in the game. easy, strong and reliable all stages of the game. I'm a support main myself, and climbed quite a lot in silver with Zyra (although I ditched her as Janna is just too good right now). In general you want to play champions that are easy, that you don't need to focus so much on mechanics, but on the game itself and then you will finally be able to notice your mistakes. EDIT: quated my own post by mistake ^^
: > [{quoted}](name=Wilbor,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:31:34.710+0000) > > In my honest opinion, as someone who was in the same situation as you. in that elo, it's more about the champs you pick. who are you maining? A lot, and a lot of Vladimir, 300+ games with 270k mastery points. I considered replacing him with Swain after a particularly frustrating losing streak, but in the end, I still decided to stick with him.
> [{quoted}](name=Hallbuster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:33:33.084+0000) > > A lot, and a lot of Vladimir, 300+ games with him so far while I have around 270k mastery points on that champion. well first of all - what is a lot? you want 2 champs max! and I mean it. you are not a smurf. you're in a elo (so am I btw, gold isn't that better) where you don't really play a smart macro game. pick two champs (and you need them to be the "right" champions for your level) and just spam them and you will go out. playing too many champs will just make your game inconsistent.
: > [{quoted}](name=dim2a,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:22:32.728+0000) > > Depends on skill and luck. > If you have gold-level skill, you should be out of S5 within 30-40. If plat-level skill, then 15-20. It depends a bit on the role you play. > > If your skill is mid-silver though, it can take a very long time if stars don't align just right. I'm good with last hitting: 160+ CS in 20 minutes on average, wave control, map awareness, and trades. I'm bad with overextending, warding, and positioning in a team fight. So..... is this good for my division?
> [{quoted}](name=Hallbuster,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:26:55.048+0000) > > I'm good with last hitting: 160+ CS in 20 minutes on average, wave control, map awareness, and trades. > > I'm bad with overextending, warding, and positioning in a team fight. > > So..... is this good for my division? In my honest opinion, as someone who was in the same situation as you. in that elo, it's more about the champs you pick. who are you maining?
: Ahri "supposed" to be easy?
why are you guys downvoting the guy? I don't get the toxicity of these boards. the guy is new to the champ, comes to ask for help/tips and needs to see people downvoting his post. ffs..
ananke (NA)
: how about no and also fuck off
> [{quoted}](name=woodpecker3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pt5dQqyZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-19T22:17:43.289+0000) > > how about no and also fuck off Triggered :3
Jo0o (NA)
: I spent some RP so that I can get missions but also not be part of the faceless masses =P
> [{quoted}](name=Jo0o,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pt5dQqyZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-19T21:58:16.114+0000) > > I spent some RP so that I can get missions but also not be part of the faceless masses =P lol yeah I mean those riven and yasuo summoner icons that everyone got for the 1 game win. someone with that summoner icon downvoted XD
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Rexxiee (NA)
: Jinx rn could use that W crit buff that was on pbe a bit ago
Jinx is probably the most balanced ADC in the game right now XD she's not trash, and she's not broken. shes got the perfect game scaling. meh early, good mid and god late. don't compare her to Twitch. Twitch needs to get the nerf bat ASAP. I ban him every game. Draven is over the top too. Ezreal is weak. you get the drill. Jinx is in the perfect state a champ needs to be. EDIT: And By the way, I once saw a video from the PBE with that w crit thing. it was just toxic really, it wasn't even cool, it killed enemies with almost half hp, it doesnt make sense.
: it took me more time to get out of silver 5 than it took to get from s4 to gold, that place is litteral hell to play in everyone is toxic as hell and tilt is as common as cs
> [{quoted}](name=doodlebob666,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmOAdUQ6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-19T21:35:06.004+0000) > > it took me more time to get out of silver 5 than it took to get from s4 to gold, that place is litteral hell to play in everyone is toxic as hell and tilt is as common as cs I agree so much lol! I was stuck in Silver 5 for so long it was a joke. after I got out of it I climbed in ultra speed to gold. something about silver 5 is cursed
: What is the problem here?
Anyways.. Riot disabled ranked games during our games because some issues.. so the winning team got only 10lp to make it fair (they say it impacted the game).
: Ahri "supposed" to be easy?
well, in lane, with ignite and ult on, u can definitely get a kill if you hit the charm. but I think people say she's easy for two reasons: 1. she's not mechanically heavy champ.. it's just skill shots, she's like lux it that regard. shes very straightforward. 2. your charm is A LOT easier to hit when teams start to group up during the mid to late game, and thats why shes so good. she just makes easy picks with her e and the guy is dead. edit: and btw!! I hope you understand that your ult is mainly to make you hit the charm easier right? you are supposed to ult into the target and then e. if you didn't know that then maybe thats why she feels a bit clunky.
Endrycio (EUW)
: Ranked bug
I got it too, I have a just fine mmr, get 20lp for a win, just finished a game now with 10lp for the win... (and it was a really hard and long game too ): )hope riot fix it
: What is the problem here?
I got 10 lp too just now!! after 20lp for every match! my mmr is just fine! what it that someone knows??
: Twitch isn't dominate like Lucian is. Twitch has no reliable escape, has to plan his engages, and only has autos and e for damage. Lucian is super mobile, bursty, and keeps dps.
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XfO5Jeip,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-14T17:19:05.557+0000) > > Twitch isn't dominate like Lucian is. Twitch has no reliable escape, has to plan his engages, and only has autos and e for damage. > Lucian is super mobile, bursty, and keeps dps. Twitch is dominating the game right now
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: Is Vel'Coz supposed to 100-0 me with just his ult?
People just tend to forget when the issue first came up during season 6 - - Damage is still too high this game since then, everyone apart from adcs deal too much damage too soon. it started in season 6 and it's still a problem.. remember when leblanc was "unique" for her infamous early burst? well, shes definitely not special anymore..
Aniohn (NA)
: The clown
Honestly, not talking specifically about shaco or any other champ, Invisibility is a VERY strong abillity in solo-q.
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: http://champion.gg/champion/Caitlyn She sits at 51%
> [{quoted}](name=A Doorknob,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pLUqHvZc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-28T13:33:45.052+0000) > > http://champion.gg/champion/Caitlyn > > She sits at 51% but champion.gg itself says the data is not up to date yet \=
SrbLud (NA)
: She didn't get nerfed per se. Changes to the game in general for the past couple of months forced her to be weaker.
> [{quoted}](name=SrbLud,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pLUqHvZc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-28T13:29:22.816+0000) > > She didn't get nerfed per se. > Changes to the game in general for the past couple of months forced her to be weaker. can you tell me what kinds of changes? sorry Im just not so up to date. I just don't understand what kind of changes could've hurt this kind of an adc putting her below sivir vayne and such
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Alex 7w7 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wilbor,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5EbfHf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-14T22:47:08.086+0000) > > as a sivir player, shes not "secret op", but shes" secret VERY strong adc" right now. people just don't know her powerspikes I believe. she stood steadily on 50% win rate in patch 6.24, and now according to op gg she rose to the 7th place (with ziggs in the 1th) leaving adcs like jhin and jinx behind. her late game aoe is insane i can tell u that. her early game is extremley weak and a lot of players can't find the way to play around it. when she gets her 3 core items (ER, PD, IE) good positioning in teamfights with her w is like twitch ult just no cd. You are right but by the time she gets her 3 core items (expensive af) its usual that other champs will be far ahead so I'm looking for an early buff or just a general buff 😭 I want her to be more umm playable I think than just farm for 30 minutes until the 3 items are build xd
> [{quoted}](name=Alex 7w7,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aq5EbfHf,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-01-14T22:58:30.397+0000) > > You are right but by the time she gets her 3 core items (expensive af) its usual that other champs will be far ahead so I'm looking for an early buff or just a general buff 😭 I want her to be more umm playable I think than just farm for 30 minutes until the 3 items are build xd u are right that her "hypercarrying" powerspike is late, with three big items. BUT two things about that: 1. Sivir is probably the greatest wave clearer in the game, she farms like no other, meaning, that even when shes not fed, or even when behind, she is farming so good that she can get her items in somewhat easier way than others. 2. and that's about what I said in my last post, about people not really knowing her powerspikes. yes, her big one comes when her 3 items are completed, and she has 70% crit chance, 30% cdr, and lots of damage. BUT, there is one, during the laning phase too. when sivir gets a bf sword she is probably one of the best adcs to combo with a "killing" support - morgana, blitz, thresh, leona etc. not many can give this much of burst damage with q - w+auto reset - aa this early before lvl 6. try to play really deff early, farm to 1300 gold, come back with a bf sword, let morg hit a q, and u gonna get a surprising burst damage. and btw I didn't even mention that sivir is one of, if not the safest laners of all adcs. not even the ones with mobillity can make me feel safer then sivir. just don't fall for "Spell shield baits" ^^ and Yes, shes an horrible duelist (so as other teamfighting adcs such as jinx minus the passive), and if your team won't group it can get difficult.
Alex 7w7 (NA)
: Sivir needs a buff
as a sivir player, shes not "secret op", but shes" secret VERY strong adc" right now. people just don't know her powerspikes I believe. she stood steadily on 50% win rate in patch 6.24, and now according to op gg she rose to the 7th place (with ziggs in the 1th) leaving adcs like jhin and jinx behind. her late game aoe is insane i can tell u that. her early game is extremley weak and a lot of players can't find the way to play around it. when she gets her 3 core items (ER, PD, IE) good positioning in teamfights with her w is like twitch ult just no cd.
Wilbor (EUW)
: Sivir in bronze elo
When I think about it maybe it's the spellshield.. I can't lose lane with sivir in bronze so maybe it raises the chances
: Because bronze is way more about how well you play than the OP OP champions. You're more likely to lose in Bronze due to playing bad than you are to a champion being weak.
But I couldnt win consistently in order to get out of bronze with other champions like I did with sivir, and it happened twice, shes like my secret weapon or something for climbing super fast from bronze.
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iLLp (NA)
: i just finished a ranked match where i out damaged a late game vayne and everyone else in the game
It's mainly because of the fact that he is a poke champion. the spam of his q's... Ezreal, zyra etc tend to have the most damage dealt at the end of the game graph, it doesnt mean much. When I play sivir I tend to do most damage because of the spam of her w. believe me, sivir didn't do more damage than vayne that game ^^
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: We need to talk about bottom lane.
Agreed. Honestly now, adcs are just left out without a job, who needs them to take objectives when u got an apc (ziggs) that one shots a tower? in this meta they are absolutely useless in terms of damage there is a reason we have a freaking apc playing as adc and owning the win rates charts. things gone a little out of control and needs to be balanced. Not only that, but can we just stop with the items that gives u tank stats AND ad?
: First blood tower needs to fucking go already
Agreed. The game is already allowing crazy snowballing, the first blood turret just makes things worse. and where is the best place to try and get it? the bot lane, which already suffers from high focus because of the dragon and the fact that there's a good setup for jungler to gank because of the supports cc. not only that buf adcs already suffer right now. I really do think that early snowball should be a thing, but it should be limited, a team needs to have a good chance for comeback, I remember season 5 I had so many exciting games where the momentum changed every 5 minutes and it was a matter of one mistake to win the game, now we encounter in stomps that the stomping team just get aced and they don't care because they know they will win anyways. I think it needs to be limited, and the first blood turret is absolutely where riot should start.
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