: I will maybe say something controversial but unless she is fed and/or did a very good set-up with her ultimate, Akali burst isn't... insane? At least I never played or fought an akali with one or two item thinking "Wow I am gonna die so fast that I will go kiss a rengar/leblanc main". Same with her mobility, she has a small jump back with her E and the MS with her shroud... that is all? If Akali use her ultimate to gain mobility either to engage or disengage, I feel it is honestly very fair? Shroud never felt bad for me because of obscurity but because I can't properly retaliate, it is why the current changes on the shroud are actually big shift for her. Before, akali would dive, freaking Q you and you can't even throw a spell/AA, then she go invisible, then she AA you and she is out again. Not you can actually punish her for each trade she try to make under tower. It mean you can also properly CC her under turret and she can't cancel spell, it also mean that if she ever try to make a longer trade she WILL get tower shot for sure. Then we gained shiver to also help skillshot and positionning, I honestly feel people want to freak out about obscurity because it is satanic to have a mechanic that defy the code but the problem isn't that she break the code, it is that the way it is done isn't well made. Also old akali was pure cancer, and I don't say that lightly. Old akali was one of the dumbest, spammiest champion in the game and I say that because I loved to play her to just rollface as long as I tried to not be a full monker. How can you compare point & click multiple dash with point and click Q with big regen and stuff to her needing to use her Q, move out, move back in, aim her E to be able to dash to you without her ultimate, that her ultimate can be flashed, etc.
: I think the only real problem is, originally, the BIGGEST crit ever was like 1800 damage from a Nasus in a bot game where he farmed for half an hour.
We're not talking about one crit, we're talking a full burst from one of the highest-burst characters in the fucking game.
: 3228 in 0.28 seconds
I understand why people have trouble with damage, but complaining that a fed Assassin building lethality does a lot of damage to a squishy armorless mage is dumb…
: Toxic Chat: Overwatch got it right
People will find a way. Riot shouldn't waste their time trying to prevent the unpreventable and focus or punishing and helping reformable players.
: If Iron tier was where Permabanned players had to play, how do you think that would go?
"Hey, you're toxic? Here, play with the dumbest monkeys. That'll sure make you keep your calm :D" "Hey, you're bad at the game? Here, play with the most toxic people. That'll sure make you love the game :D"
: The most frustrating part of this game is that all the high burst champions ARE SO GOD DAMN SAFE
3 assassins and 1 fighter who's not a burst champ = "all the high burst champions" Got it!
LTK KoRo (EUW)
: And... he is.
I wasn't implying he wasn't
: Are Prestige edition skins becoming overglorified/overpriced gold chromas?
Prestige edition skins are made to reward two types of players: * Those who keep the game financially successful * Those who dedicate their lives to it They're technically not chromas, as they're entirely separate skins.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jinto,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nBwfKXVg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-06T12:05:38.999+0000) > > He's literally just an assassin advertised as a support. hes an assassin whos advertised as an assassin who can play from the support position.
He's supposed to be a hybrid Assassin/Catcher according to Riot's classification
: > [{quoted}](name=Full Brain,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MWQMs6ll,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-06T09:52:11.463+0000) > > Yeah I didn't bother telling anyone in that thread about it since stupid people just believe whatever they want It sure would have been nice to know cause I bet you anyone that doesn't play urgot seen these interactions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpeTmSECQTg With how bad the balance team is it wouldn't be a shocker if that's how his ult actually worked at all times. Anyways it's a 300 hp heal when executing 2000 hp targets (which is what all squishy champs have by late game) so using it on champs stacking hp is still going to give an decent amount of hp back.
> With how bad the balance team Are you really implying the programmers are part of the balance team??
Vonler (EUNE)
: "Neeko is everything Leblanc was supposed to be" ... Other than the concept of deception, I don't see how. In the old lore she could pretend to be anyone, but not in game. Leblanc has her own niche as a deceptive champion. Riot could definitely improve upon that, but shapeshifting is out of the picture. I'm sure Riot tried the shapeshifting mechanic on LB during her rework but decided it was a mismatch... I remember them stating they tried 'something' on LB but ultimately thought the mechanic would be more fitting on a new character.
> Other than the concept of deception, I don't see how. Well, Leblanc's title is _The Deceiver_…
XeroKimo (NA)
: Bard's ult does do 1 true damage, it's not a bug
XeroKimo (NA)
: And bard was after elise
Yeah, so that might be a bug, and not due to legacy code
: So I got my boyfriend into league like a week ago
Terchio (NA)
: I don't think this is quite accurate. As an example, Elise Cocoon will not damage an enemy, and will not draw tower aggro. However, Cocoon will give assists if that's all that's landed, because of the snare. I've done that a number of times on sure kills that I want to feed my team while assisting, and in the other case on tower dives that I want to setup strong before the tower starts to fire. To compare to Bard, damage from ultimate might proc tower aggro, but I didn't think it did. If so, it'd be like the other 1 pure damage ticks, which are not in place to give assists, but instead to draw said turret aggro and disrupt overly safe diving mechanics, such as Trundle Pillar (when he tanks up hardcore) or Zilean Bombs (extremely safe poke with next to no chance of aggro without damage on land). On the other hand, if Bard doesn't draw tower aggro on ulti, it's not damage, and DH is actually procced on non-damaging spells. Not sure which is true there.
Elise was after Anivia and Trundle. They got the technology™ in the meantime
: We want to know what’s best for you! With this first run, universe will have free versions. The paid versions on Comicology will have a TON of extra content. Concept art, character designs, storyboards/thumbs, scripts, glossary of terms, frelordian culture stuff, and possibly even a very long short story. The physical book will include all the extras from comiicology plus possibly even more bonus content. Soooo... It’s really a question of how much u personally want to pay, how long you wanna wait, and how much u care about bonus content etc...
Would you have an idea how easily available those comics will be in Europe? We don't have much American comics usually (though they can be found), but I'd like to get them.
: This season's starting to feel like a No Man's Sky level bait-and-switch
> Want a longer laning phase? 3 minutes added to laning with sacks of gold added to tower damage Well, yeah, 3 minutes is a lot in this game… > Want less snowballing? First tower now worth 1100 gold That is just plain wrong. First tower was giving 400g, now it gives 300g. The supplementary gold is not reserved to the first tower. > Want less damage? Dark Harvest makes most level 4 champions capable of 100-0ing you in a single combo It's been nerfed twice already and will probably be more in the future > Want Irelia and Akali nerfed? Lol b a r e l y They said they'd work on them more in the near future > Want more rune options? The 3 stat options you have now are sure to be better than the 30 you had The old runes had the exact same problem, they just disguised it as more customizable but in the end it was always the same thing > Want matches to be longer with more thought out strategies? Game's even shorter Yeah, it's preseason, matchmaking is a mess and snowball is hard to control as people learn to play with the new changes… > Want tanks to not have all their resistances constantly shredded by arbitrary (true) bonuses? Stop asking What resistance shred has been added with preseason, exactly? > Want to be able to play independently again and not have to roam the map with your whole team constantly 5v5 deathballing every objective on the map? Nope It's a team game. Deal with it.
iBox360 (EUW)
: MEME : Neeko Real Identity
Perfect choice of music
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: "We have more plans for Akali and Irelia"
Riot: *works on something* "WTF, Akali and Irelia are a problem, fix it ASAP!" Riot: "We've got plans for them, we're going to work on it." "WTF, they get too much attention, give some time to older champs!!!!!" You just can't win…
: Technically they could, with Locket of the Iron Salami {{item:3190}}, but it would be incredibly inefficient to only proc shield bash once every 120 seconds XD At that point it would indeed be better to get literally any other rune lmao
> Locket of the Iron **Salami** Beautiful
: Indeed, it feel odd playing Leona and not being able to use shield bash.
The only character to have an *actual* shield bash ability can't use the rune, and I find that infuriating.
: LoL sorely needs more Elderwood/Death Blossom skins now though.
Well, the Coven skins are coming, so there's that
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r7BAA5k9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-21T11:21:09.905+0000) > > Go back 8 seasons behind and you'll find the same posts. > > "Blabla meta", "can't play x champion", "no diversity", "OP or lose", etc… > > All the data tend to suggest that we're leaning to more and more diversity each season. Each Worlds, we see more different picks than before. It's just you. Worlds are a small fraction of playerbase. Please, don't compare Pro meta to regular old Joe meta.
Pros show that the issue is often not the champion's power, but the player's skill. We should strive to be as good as the pros. Obviously, we can't all be, and Riot is doing its best to give a balance that works for mid elo as well as pro-play.
: I agree, her sexual preference is indeed irrelevant. What's not irrelevant is how often she shoves her sexual preference in your face through her dialogue. From a design perspective, this was poorly executed.
> What's not irrelevant is how often she shoves her sexual preference in your face through her dialogue. Which is: not much
Sukishoo (NA)
: They said she can charge it while stealthed, being if she's out of view or while she is disguised. Because while in disguise you don't see the begining of the charge
Well, we never see the AoE centered around unseen targets, that's nothing new. And the disguise is not really "stealth", you're visible and targetable.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HXdJrkjE,comment-id=000600000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-21T11:53:00.565+0000) > > Tenacity AND cleansing abilities. Cleanse, QSS, Mikeal's, GP's orange, Olaf's Ragnarok, Alistar's ult, Rengar's Roar. Cleanses are technically just 100% Tenacity for X duration. > > Yeah…because the game is filled with knock-ups, rendering it useless… I do not think Neeko's release alone will render building Tenacity anymore viable. If anything, Ornn's release should've since he has the ability to increase all CC, and yet Tenacity is still a borderline troll stat.
> Cleanses are technically just 100% Tenacity for X duration. In a sense, yes, but your point was making it look like only tenacity as we see in the game was relevant to the point, so it makes it feel less important than it is. > I do not think Neeko's release alone will render building Tenacity anymore viable. Neeko alone, no. But it's a good trend to follow, and we should make that heard.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HXdJrkjE,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-21T11:23:31.177+0000) > > It's a 3 second root, for one champion if you hit at least 2 others before… > > And people weren't complaining about CC, they were complaining about knock-ups specifically, which is *very* different. The only difference between normal CC and Knock-ups is the fact that one is affected by Tenacity and the other isn't. And people very rarely build/optimize for Tenacity.
> The only difference between normal CC and Knock-ups is the fact that one is affected by Tenacity and the other isn't. Tenacity AND cleansing abilities. Cleanse, QSS, Mikeal's, GP's orange, Olaf's Ragnarok, Alistar's ult, Rengar's Roar. > And people very rarely build/optimize for Tenacity. Yeah…because the game is filled with knock-ups, rendering it useless…
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HXdJrkjE,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-11-21T11:12:20.748+0000) > > What's your point, exactly? There is no knock-up there. And it's not really "stealth", she's still visible. Not a knock up, but a 1.25 second stun with a up to ~~4.5~~ 3 second root duration right after. And yes, it's not stealth, I know.
It's a 3 second root, for one champion if you hit at least 2 others before… And people weren't complaining about CC, they were complaining about knock-ups specifically, which is *very* different.
: Forced to play meta?
Go back 8 seasons behind and you'll find the same posts. "Blabla meta", "can't play x champion", "no diversity", "OP or lose", etc… All the data tend to suggest that we're leaning to more and more diversity each season. Each Worlds, we see more different picks than before. It's just you.
: I agree. This new system is stupid and only a money gimick for Riot. And it's a slap in the face to all the veteran players. This whole season 8 would have been so much better with the old system.
> money gimick for Riot What???
: Yeah let's *conveniently* forget the Nunu ult that she can charge while moving and in stealth.
What's your point, exactly? There is no knock-up there. And it's not really "stealth", she's still visible.
: Fun Fact: Neeko means "Fuck Him" in Arabic
Also resembles the verb "niquer" in French, which means "to fuck".
: Neeko is a lesbian: Let's please calmly discuss it.
I think her lesbianism is just something that came up by itself when they were writing her interactions. Here is (overly simplified) how I picture the process: "So, what interactions do we give her?" "Well, she can morph, we could give her lines when she does." "Yeah, maybe give comments on the copied ally's appearance." "She's naively honest, we could make her taunt them with that." "How would you feel like if you morphed into someone of the opposite sex, though?" "I don't know, I might be grossed out, at first." "Yeah, I can imagine her not liking morphing into a man. Like saying they stink or something." "So maybe she doesn't like men's anatomy…" "We could go all the way and just make her not like men. She could like girls, they would feel more like her." "So making her a straight-up lesbian?" "Why not? We haven't confirmed Diana yet, so we may as well do it." "Plus it'll give us some representation point." "That's always nice to have." "Ok, so we got a clearer idea of her character. But how do we convey her sexuality." "I don't know, make her flirt with a couple of characters. Overall, just make her be more positive with female champions." "That sounds logical to me. Let's do it."
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Z5M26UGR,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-11-20T08:15:13.740+0000) > > I don't think her backstory is the important part of her character .....Backstory is the important part to _every_ character
No, it's not. Some characters are interesting through their present, not their past.
: A few thoughts on Neeko from a first impression
> 3: The idea of being the last of your kind has already been done by both Fizz and Alistar, so I can't give points for originality. Fairly mediocre lore. I don't think her backstory is the important part of her character
HellBell (EUW)
: Unpopular opinion: Neeko’s character feels kinda offensive.
I think you got it backwards. She's a young, relatively immature girl who doesn't seem to find boys attractive, which makes sense for her to say *as she's taking their appearances*. That also has for consequence that she doesn't feel attracted to them. She's not talking like that *because* she's a lesbian. She's talking like that because her character is to talk like that, and being lesbian is just something more about her.
: https://twitter.com/Spideraxe30/status/1064613963227455489 Yup, she's a lesbian.
I don't understand the "identifies". I mean, if you're a woman who likes women, you're a lesbian… There is no identification to make. You are by definition…
: I can already tell you. Group A will be celebrating for some LGBT representation. Group B would simply acknowledge it & move on with their life. Group C would be like "Why does it matter?" & wonder why is her sexuality such a big deal. Group D would think "Ew, Riot giving into these SJW Tumblr freaks."
I'm like "oh hey, that's cool", so kinda the middle between A and B, I guess?
: Ribs don't break out of human chests, they tend to stay in rib-places. So. Next followup? Where are you now and what are you doing? what does xxenomorph mean?
> [{quoted}](name=Displicity,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7jnTesa6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-11-19T01:50:36.480+0000) > > Ribs don't break out of human chests, they tend to stay in rib-places. > > So. Next followup? Where are you now and what are you doing? > > what does xxenomorph mean? This is the xenomorph http://www.scified.com/articles/ridley-scott-wants-replace-xenomorph-alien-covenant-2-49.jpg
: So what's fun about LoL right now?
Summoner's Rift is why you should want to play. If it doesn't bring you joy, take a break from the game…
: Leblanc isn't a problem because of her damage RIOT it's how she delivers it.
Hmm, it's almost like they should rework her so that her damage isn't instant and so reliable…
: Yes, just like PROJECT, and Dark Star, and all the other skin lines they release new skins for around the same time every year. It would be really fucking stupid of them to cancel one of their most popular skin lines in the same year they're outed as a piece of shit company internally.
And yet, Dark Star only has 7 skins (if you consider Rhaast as one), and PROJECT has 12, only 2 more than Star Guardian for 3 batches instead of 2. Star Guardian already has plenty, and there is only so much Riot can do. The Leona skins must have been very long to make, and the **_5_** Pajama skins are nice to have while not requiring much less work than fully new Star Guardians.
: Hear me out. Instead of Perma-banning people for toxicity
Is that even complying to the Geneva Conventions?
: yes, because every skin is an alternative star guardian skin released around the same time of year the real Star Guardians would be released lmao
We've got two batches of star guardian skins, so now it's supposed to be an annual thing?? Come on, we've got 10 of them already, that's more than most skin lines…
: that they're most likely replacing ACTUAL Star Guardian skins this year maybe?????
By that logic, every skin that is not a Star Guardian skin is replacing a potential Star Guardian skin.
Yraco (EUW)
: Idk which champ you're referencing but most of his champs tend to be annoying to deal with, even if they aren't the strongest. {{champion:122}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:142}} and nobody can forget {{champion:157}}
The Darius rework was from someone else, so I'm not sure if that counts
Màv (NA)
: Meh, Ashe is still hotter.
> [{quoted}](name=Màv,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e8ZeVdrL,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-11-13T08:16:20.127+0000) > > Meh, Ashe is still hotter. Ashe × Ashe is hottest
: I think League has lost its main selling point.
League hasn't changed. You've changed. The novelty aspect is gone.
: Riot, does the "Ready" button REALLY need to be so obnoxiously complicated???
Do you have any idea how complicated something as simple as that can be? There is a lot of back-end work that has to be done. And no, the fanciness of the button does not change that.
: Alright so going in on akali isn't a thing you get to do. Even if she doesn't have smoke screen, she still has a dash and a slow to get away.
That is another issue, and I don't plan on going that way. I'm just defending the point of smokescreen restoring energy.
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