: Either fully push Karma into support, or fully push her into mage.
What's the issue with Karma being a complete hybrid? She's been played in casual, ranked and professional play on these two roles, and that's great
: why is swapping out secondary runes so fucking counterintuitive
Put it in grid. The behaviour for which rune is changed has been thought with the grid view in mind.
: Does this make me a Sith? :o
Pretty much, yeah. Purely emotional, no actual reflection. It feeds on anger and rage.
: "If crowd control is the only way to counter a champion, then its design is bad."
The statement is too absolute to even be remotely practical.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AV07Y0co,comment-id=00120001,timestamp=2018-06-20T09:56:48.774+0000) > > This shows how little people think sometimes… > > It has to be either a skillshot or a targeted spell, so it's irrelevant, or if anything, a downside most of the time. It's also colliding, so you can use minions to protect against it. Wrong. example is Garen’s Q > And very short range otherwise How many other abilities in the game extend themselves if it ends in a wall? Not many. example is Cait’s Q > Once you're hit by a CC, it's kinda logical that it's unavoidable… Plus, it gives you time to reposition, and prepare any kind of cleanse. Lolz, so if you are hit by a slow it is logical that you will get stunned unavoidably? Nope. example is Jihn, he slows then has to hit you to get the stun > So the softest CC in the game So soft that people burn their flashes to avoid it... > So an easily wasted CC because no one ever dies after the first hit they take while being stunned... > Deals damage equal to the hitting spell, up to the initial bubble damage, so the true damage part is irrelevant, because one way or another, your resistances count. smelling a zoe main here. so defensive. doesn’t even understand the point of the original post. it’s overLOADED not overPOWERED
I've played Zoe once, in one-for-all… My point is that it's not overloaded. It just *looks* overloaded because it has a very peculiar behaviour. If I take the same spell, increase its range, double its damage and change the CC for an actual stun, and remove the range extention and bonus damage, this is what we have: "Zoe lauches a projectile that damages and stuns the first enemy hit", basically Xerath's E. Everything else (except the trap, which I didn't argue about) is just purely _lowering its power_: range is situational, CC is not instant and more easily cancellable, and full damage is not guaranteed. It's a complicated spell, but it's NOT overloaded.
: Guys I'm literally crying right now
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Let us thank Him for making metal noodles to transfer our data!
: Zoe's E i dont even wanna get into all the stuff it has, but here i go skillshot extends range if over a wall if it hits nothing forms a trap deals Magic dmg 2 types of CC, and 2nd is unavoidable (outside of an item, or spell shield) - a slow - a stun that stops on dmg dealing dmg to a stunned target deals true dmg Not sure if she still reduces her CD if she hits a target but ill be happy if thats not the case Also Yasuo's passives 2x crit chance but crit dmg is reduced gains shield from moving shield blocks dmg from attack that proc'd it and continues to shield after being proc'd Also anyone try to dissect Kai'sa's passive?
This shows how little people think sometimes… >skillshot It has to be either a skillshot or a targeted spell, so it's irrelevant, or if anything, a downside most of the time. It's also colliding, so you can use minions to protect against it. >extends range if over a wall And very short range otherwise > deals Magic dmg Yeah, like almost every spell in the game, it deals damage… > 2 types of CC, and 2nd is unavoidable (outside of an item, or spell shield) Once you're hit by a CC, it's kinda logical that it's unavoidable… Plus, it gives you time to reposition, and prepare any kind of cleanse. > a slow So the softest CC in the game > a stun that stops on dmg So an easily wasted CC > dealing dmg to a stunned target deals true dmg Deals damage equal to the hitting spell, up to the initial bubble damage, so the true damage part is irrelevant, because one way or another, your resistances count.
: pretty sad when an ability that can target allies or enemies with different effects ({{champion:117}} E) is extremely simple and not overloaded at all. anyways, {{champion:202}} passive is basically an entire research paper. perhaps the longest ability description in the game, just explaining jhin's auto attacks. the four shots, fixed attack speed, crit and %hp damage on 4th shot, movement speed on crit, attack speed converted to ad and crit movement speed. it's a shit ton of information.
I wouldn't say it's overloaded, it's just very long to explain.
: Game duration and internet cafes
> It is said that RIOT People sure say a lot of stuff about Riot where you're from. Nothing of that sort has been said. And I'm telling you that for both of your posts.
: Can we not make the terms Marksman and ADC synonymous, i mean with the current turn of events its obvious that ADC doesn't always mean Marksman. Maybe when they return to being sustain damage dealers versus dealing huge amounts of burst in a small amount of time they will find a place again.
> [{quoted}](name=FlameHalbrdOkido,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=YjKoRX4K,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-20T05:02:10.487+0000) > > Can we not make the terms Marksman and ADC synonymous, i mean with the current turn of events its obvious that ADC doesn't always mean Marksman. > > Maybe when they return to being sustain damage dealers versus dealing huge amounts of burst in a small amount of time they will find a place again. So many people already fusing role and position, and you want to ask them to differentiate role from class?? You're asking too much of them. ADC is a role Botlane is a position Marksman is a class
: Wow, that's such an improvement
I like it. More accent on the heart, refined armor that feels more organic, it's great. I liked the previous one as well, but this new one is definitely better. Feels more "finished".
Hayaishi (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=J8hId99B,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2018-06-17T20:31:57.331+0000) > > *pops electrocute* > > *says it's one ability* He popped it with one ability....
You know you can't pop electrocute with one ability, right? (Or you want to make me believe he AA'd twice?)
Hayaishi (NA)
: Lmao lose over half HP in one ability. Very balanced.
*pops electrocute* *says it's one ability*
: Can Order vs Chaos stop being Totalitarism vs The Cool Guys?
I don't think that's really possible due to anarchy being a "cool" idea in theory. People will always prefer freedom over duty…
: What happened to morello ?
He's on the R&D for future games from Riot.
Dr Mercy (NA)
: Darkin aren't a Force of Nature anymore.
The different emotions in new Aatrox' VO: * Joy * Anger * Amusement * Rage * Bitterness * Annoyment * Excitement * Doubt * Loathing All with either sarcasm, laughter, scream or determination. "new Aatrox just jokes and screams lul"
Ifneth (NA)
: (SPOILER) The Varus taunt still has me laughing. Varus! V A R U S!
Rioter Comments
333lom (EUNE)
: That's not Aatrox though. That's an entirely different character.
: Whatever his new VO is it's not what I liked about Aatrox's personality. What he felt not being conveyed through his lines, his mood and emotions being a mystery if existent, was what I loved the most about him besides his appearance. Aatrox was either unreadable or saw everyone around him as nothing more than ants, or both. And that's one of my favorite traits when it comes to fictional characters.
Not bashing your tastes, but I find this archetype utterly uninteresting. That's a primary reason for my aversion towards shonens.
: I find it funny how they made Mastery Roasts in his VO, and the fact they turned the double A thing discussion from boards into a joke. Yes it takes time to understand few words he says, but that doesn't stop me from laughing at his wide collection of edgy jokes.
: I personally really love when he gets *really* angry. Like personally I wouldnt have minded even if they kept his soft-spokenmes but when faced with the Aspect of Twilight he is filled with hate at the stealing of his people.
I like that he shows a lot of emotions. Excitment, jubilation, thrill, amusement, anger, rage, annoyment
GreenLore (EUW)
: So the darkins were summoned by the shurimans to fight the void,but then went rogue and tried to conquer runeterra themselves,but the aspects gave the humans the means to seal the darkins away. Feels a bit cluttered with all these different factions involved,but also shows just how dangerous the darkins really were. Though I dunno whats the deal with Kayle and Morgana,he mentions that Kayle is not worthy of ascension,which made me think that these 2 might be ascended,but then he mentions that Morgana bound herself to this realm(and that she has some sort of bound flesh),which sounds more like they are more similar to aspects.
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Aspects are connected to the sun-disc magic in Runeterra, making the Aspects and the Ascended somewhat related in terms of magic source.
: I feel like 90% of his lines could be said by Veigar and still make sense. He tries so hard to be a badass inmortal thing and then gets angry with a little girl... (Sure, she is OP in the lore but still funny) He is like the typical villain of a saturday morning cartoon who is sure that he will win, but he wont. https://youtu.be/V1j7lyRnxVE
I don't think he tries to be anything. It feels very genuine, really.
Jaspers (EUW)
: I like the voice over, it's good work but there isn't enough "I'm the best, now die." to me, it's more of a "Here's a diss, now fight me.". Shame about his gameplay and his wings not being out all the time.
I don't think his goal is to be the best, or show he's the best. He just genuinely think he is and wants to fight, but I don't think there is glory involved in his needs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=b2F286zK,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-12T21:27:40.899+0000) > (And guys, people have accents in real life, they can have accents in a game…) Except why would a War driven blood shedding spirit trapped in a sword talk like he's had nothing but Vodka in his system all his life and wears a tracksuit.
He's jubilating! He's eager to fight, that's all he is, a combatant.
Rioter Comments
Feel Apathy (EUNE)
: The missing flat/scaling MR from the old rune system might bring some "Stability"
Who the fuck is complaining about mages?? Everyone loses their shit over AD damage dealers…
: How long til displacements are reduced by tenacity?
Actual displacement need to stay the same, but (most) knock-ups should be changed to suspensions
: I've found what will kill LOL
> The first step of fixing a problem is admitting that there is one and it's high time that riot (or tencent) face the fact that there is one. Because Riot is completely unaware of this problem, since they're obviously complete idiots… /s
OHminus (NA)
: I would rather see laneswaps (a strategy that was used mostly by only pros) than 4 man bum rushes (a strategy that everyone uses and is annoying to play with and against)
The laneswaps made the first 5-10 minutes of the game constant tower pushing. There were 4 towers down and probably a dragon before first blood.
Velasan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SayoriWantsToDie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JrE3EwzY,comment-id=000300000002,timestamp=2018-06-06T15:35:45.827+0000) > > Scuse me but us anime fans would rather play someone like kayn(shadow) and zed or annie/zoe That's strange. I like anime, but some of my favorite characters are Shen, Fiddlesticks, and Swain. Does Vel'koz count as anime? :P
: Buff bottom tower
They purposefully made the bottom tower weaker to prevent constant lane-swapping
: So, League is a great first aid tool
Also, you can use your subsequent salt to sanitize the wound.
: Ok. That still doesn't make it any less of a dick move to hold teammates hostage.
Queuing is making the oath to play the game until the end. You're not being "held hostage", you accepted to receive responsibilities and duty towards your teammates.
: You make good points. I'll point out that the slow on an ability that is executing you anyway isn't relevant (death is a harder cc than a slow), but i had forgotten about the fear.
The slow is actually very powerful. I've killed people thanks to that slow, just because it allowed me to hit them so that they reach the execute threshold. Never underestimate a 4-sec slow.
: Urgot's ult isn't also mobility that resets. I haven't played this patch yet so i don't have an opinion on pyke but if you're making the comparison to urgot ult pyke ult is overloaded.
Urgot's ult is 25% max HP, Pyke's ult is a flat amount. Also, how is the mobility great for Pyke? Blinking to a dead enemy is not always what you want… Pyke's also doesn't slow, and has a VERY short range compared to Urgot's. Urgot's also has an AoE fear.
: Ignore shields is terrible mechanic on pyke's ult
Did you complain about Urgot's ult?
KoKoboto (NA)
: Holy moly shield spam is finally being ADDRESSED
You say that like it's a surprise
Bern (NA)
: Domination is an unattractive tree unless you're an assassin, period. If you can't benefit from sudden impact, you probably don't want to be in the domination tree.
Zombie Ward, Ghost Poro, Eyeball Collection, Ingenious/Relentless/Ultimate Hunter are great for a wide range of Champions, notably Supports.
Danjeng (NA)
: It's much harder to max out stats on Ultimate Hunter than on Ultimate Hat. It's dependent on you getting a kill/assist. On Karma, you used to be able to get max stacks before 6 no effort. It's definitely a nerf.
Tell that to Karthus… Stacking Ultimate Hat was shitty.
Risen29 (NA)
: Ultimate Hat change was a terrible idea
Gosh, I hate being able to select Manaflow Band AND Ultimate Hunter at the same time! Fuck you Riot, I was so happy having to choose between these two!
mosaickle (OCE)
: Why is Pyke's ultimate called 'Death from Below' when he stabs the area from above??
He jumps, dives under the ground and emerges on the X. Look at how he ends his animation, the dagger points upwards.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4AGTBxa0,comment-id=000600020000,timestamp=2018-05-31T19:48:58.899+0000) > > Angle brackets? {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}} Yup. {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4AGTBxa0,comment-id=0006000200000000,timestamp=2018-05-31T19:52:22.707+0000) > > Yup. > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} No respect for typography! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4AGTBxa0,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-05-29T19:41:06.270+0000) > > < > angle brackets > () parentheses > [] square braces > {} curly braces Programming uses these a lot, and this is how most programmers I've run into refer to them (braces/brackets interchange).
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4AGTBxa0,comment-id=00060002,timestamp=2018-05-31T16:48:51.859+0000) > > Programming uses these a lot, and this is how most programmers I&#x27;ve run into refer to them (braces/brackets interchange). Angle brackets? {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
: There's a certain irony to how some of the simpler champions are actually harder because you need to try and make their kits work against people with a bunch of flashy toys at their disposal. TFate's the epitome of this.
> TFate's the epitome of this. What a weird way to spell {{champion:161}}
: Hey Riot, thanks for listening to us and nerfing turrets
It's only inhib/nexus turrets. Outer turrets are unchanged, and these are the ones people complain about, so for this problem there is technically no change.
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Baron was finally in a reasonable spot... for two patches.
>* VORACIOUS CORROSION: Baron Nashor's basic attacks apply a debuff that reduces the target's armor and magic resistance by 0.5, stacking up to 100 times for a total of 50 maximum reduction. * VOID CORRUPTION: Baron Nashor's basic attacks deals 60 (+ 20% AD) bonus magic damage. This can occur every 0.75 seconds. This also applies a stack of Voracious Corrosion to the nearest champion with the lowest number of Voracious Corrosion stacks. Baron's damage increases exponentially with time. With Baron health up quite substancially, that was a lot of damage going with it, since it took longer to kill. Plus, it also means increasing the damage of the enemy team, so Baron HAD to deal less damage by itself. There are a lot of details that most people don't know about, or don't take into account when pseudo-theoricrafting the changes. The game is very complex, and the slightest change can destabilize the balance way more heavily than it looks.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4AGTBxa0,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-05-29T22:34:00.210+0000) > > I&#x27;m pretty sure they&#x27;re just grave accents. JS fools me for using them for multiline strings
> [{quoted}](name=Awesomeasf ck,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4AGTBxa0,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2018-05-30T03:27:24.591+0000) > > JS fools me for using them for multiline strings JS fools everyone
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5A9E9a79,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-05-29T15:45:02.970+0000) > > Stop complaining that you don&#x27;t get enough stuff… > > No one was complaining about not having enough free skins before they introduced OE. Now people think they&#x27;re entitled a ton of free stuff for no reason. > > You don&#x27;t have to buy chest, and you knew what you bought, you should have thought better. Yea, in a game with thousands of skins god forbid we get a couple free ones.
> [{quoted}](name=Cloud273,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5A9E9a79,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-05-30T05:47:10.368+0000) > > Yea, in a game with thousands of skins god forbid we get a couple free ones. You're proving my point. You're not entitled to any free stuff…
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