: ***
fuck that guy then I am not fighting monsters even despite their disgusting behaviors they are still people to me and don't consider them monsters just assholes and I don't fight them I fend them off I try to get them off my back I respond so I have no regrets later that somone bullied me and I did nothing about it also the weird logic of having sympathy for an aggressor is beyond me so "fighting someone who started shit" is acting like a monster in your book? damn are you sure friedrick neitzche is talking about talking shit in a video game and not about some much serious issue? I know you NA people are a bit overboard with this toxicity thing I once said to NA player "friend" that I was from EUW and he said "sounds toxic" that took me aback a little and i responded as a joke "I am toxic so it's okay" didn't consider myself toxic at that time he gave me a speech about the importance of not being toxic regardless and he sounded too enthusiastic about i never bothered to tell him i was joking... you guys need to chill not really your job to lecture people about the obvious we know reacting is "bad" we just don't care about what you think is right and wrong honestly
Hotarµ (NA)
: > why do I find this very hard to believe? I said "probably" because people have been punished for saying only one or two things in chat before. [Here's an example of someone being punished with only a few lines of chat. ](https://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behaviour-en/ZI6Y1pxx-ban-for-saying-one-word) Not encouraging you to do it, but good luck using those words in a game and not getting punished down the line. Telling someone to drink bleach or wishing death on their family is definitely punishable. If you don't believe me, just keep pushing your luck and see what happens. Don't say I didn't warn you. >that explains why the report system is a failure most of the time banning people only 10% of time and for the wrong or weirdest reasons In my experience (dealing with hundreds if not thousands of punishment posts) the majority of them are always deserved. Please show me _one_ that wasn't deserved that didn't have any negativity, zero tolerance phrases, or gameplay griefing.
the problem is the definition of negativity can be so broad that it's IMPOSSIBLE to be innocent you could stretch it forever and you'd always find a reason why that person got banned but none would agree on a definitive reason why and you'd be dumbfounded by the people who didn't get banned more than the ones who did like for example when i use the toxic sentence and i can bet you money that unless they redo the report system i'll never get banned for saying these words every game theorically so because I wouldn't risk it on my only account left but i did get away with it many many times...like many you'd think I'd get banned the second or third time but nope..nothing that person in your link used two trigger words "kys" popular one and "fa(g)ggot" hate speech/homophobia clearly not one word lmao and obviously are confirmed to be banned by rito but the words i use are not someone said he got banned for asking someone to off themselves but if his exact words were "go off yourself" he wont get banned i did use those words too, he probably said "kys" this knowledge of reporting system loopholes can only get me so far tho because my speech diarrhea is my main reason i get banned and i can't control it sometimes
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=ffat35minute,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7EJsBkNV,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T14:01:01.010+0000) > > Wanna re-read that? Again: Stop being so extremely defensive right from the start. You formed your opinion and then looked for ways to confirm it, rather than looking at things objectively and forming your opinion around that.
I will not re-read that I have an eyesight and I already read the comment twice because it was so messed up mild confusion but in neither times the comment seemed pleasant to me you seem to be the one getting defensive about that specific comment do you you know the person personally? or perhaps you are just eager to 'prove' something or disapprove it like the other gentlemen in the comment section if it's the latter I don't have time for this shit sorry edit: oh oops I accidentally still reread the first sentence and it still seems like a guy I don't know condescendingly asking me to punctuate my shit what did you want me to see exactly? lol
Hotarµ (NA)
: People probably aren't reporting you for those one or two messages. You can get reported (and punished) for any amount of chat, it doesn't matter if you type one sentence or an essay. >it's punishable dude maybe you talk about kittens or balance issues in your essays but arguments that cause friction type of essays are no no's, toxic one sentence is ok tho cause rito logic Yeah, I don't flame my teammates or start conflict, so I don't get punished. There's a fine line between typing a lot and getting into a heated argument that takes your focus off of the game.
this community that's so sensitive to report me almost after every argument are not reporting me after I say something at the peak of toxicity? why do I find this very hard to believe? more like the report system is way too obviously scripted you can't say trigger words that are registered as bannable offenses like 'kys' but you can say the same thing in an other way 'drink bleach' and because it's not in the script rito bots wont detect it and you get away with it any day any time there's little human interference with the instant feedback system except for very extreme cases in riot's eyes (whatever that means) and that explains why the report system is a failure most of the time banning people only 10% of time and for the wrong or weirdest reasons
Hotarµ (NA)
: Frequent typing _is not_ punishable. Source: I basically type essays in game because I can't stfu lol
care to explain to me why the instance i say only one thing that's super toxic like get cancer death to all your family drink bleach but it's only one sentence never get any chat restriction for that never mentioned in my future chat restrictions either or my bans but it's always ALWAYS the time i typed an article with mild to little to even no apparent toxicity that gets me chat restricted/banned every.fucking.time? it's punishable dude maybe you talk about kittens or balance issues in your essays but arguments that cause friction type of essays are no no's, toxic one sentence is ok tho cause rito logic
Mr Elessar (EUNE)
: You talk too much.
I am very conflicted about this comment because it's so accurate but at the same time that shouldn't be something that's actually bannable like wtf why is typing too much toxic if you are not directly insulting someone it's ridiculous some of us use lol chat as an outlet but report system is quite merciless for serial typers like me and op
TrulyBland (EUNE)
: I think the assumption is that you get defensive very fast and then feel justified in aggressive responses. Reread the post that you replied to. Please show me how this person was not innocent? There is absolutely no statement on you being "all to blame" and quite opposite to defending those players the post clearly says to report them. Nothing of which you are accusing that person is actually true. So it's not an assumption that you act like this around innocent people, it's an observation.
he made a clear passive aggressive statement as an opening to his comment with "I cant read shit please punctuate" a simple opgg google explains his attitude prefectly as he's one of those feeders i described and likely a premade abuser as well he said I was all to blame and then backtracked I don't really care it's ironic that his comment is not in perfect grammar but he has to point out I don't punctuate on the internet
Xidphel (NA)
: So circumstantial evidence.
1st of all i dont need to prove anything to you I know what happened I am too lazy to dig out hundred of emails just to get diaspproved again and get the same copy paste from riot employee said from some random person with "specialist" tag circumstantial evidence? you sound like you just wanted to use that word to sound cool or something because it doesn't make any sense
: I've been banned before for telling someone to off themselves LOL it's not like I don't still want to tell people that I just don't want to get permed I honestly don't agree with most of riot's banning policies but they think their game is being played by 12 year olds so I find ways around the *straight to the point flame* and get at the very least some satisfaction from it
I don't want to get perma'd either but it starts with chat restrictions and it escalates quickly most of these chat resstriction are just arguments and nothing extreme like kill yourself or anything arguments are too much for 12 years olds too? I don't think 12 years olds understand english at all if I am being honest
: ***
LOL that's too funny I might try it if it's some mid-end game shit talking but if it's the beginning of the game when they already don't want me to do this or that..and I am trying to just play my game and avoid their bs and they keep doing it you thought you muted them but turns you didn't and now they angred you way too much to stay silent.. I honestly envy your self control if someone has tortured me for an extended period of time a simple ping won't get my revenge on them but cheers for creativity
: and as understandable as that is, the way you're approaching it is apparently too aggressive in riots eyes. try being extremely sarcastic or passive aggressive
nothing will work I am sure I tried to "reform" but nothing will work as long these jerkheads have the power to cockblock you from playing your game forever for personal differences nothing will ever change I mean think for a second kids who have no clue how to behave can punish you for 'misbehaving' isn't that ironic? it's a hilarious system really also I tried being passive aggressive and sarcastic I am not so unoriginal to call people they are bad and their lives are bad usually (unless their iq level wont let them understand any more complicated insults) and nope still toxic if rito decides you are toxic waste there's nothing you can do about it, no work arounds, nada
: And that being said The *respectful ones* are few and far between in league, just like irl You probably shouldn’t expect people to be respectful just as you wouldn’t expect jimmy who you ran into on the street to be the smartest guy in the world
it's not really about expectations disrespect me in your head all you want but as soon as you voice it you might start a storm of shit I dunno I am just allergic to disrespectful assholes..especially the persistent ones who ignore your first attempts to ignore them
: Bruh if you hate premades it’s not league you hate It’s *people and games in general*
you are not wrong I hate people but not the respectful ones
: For real though, just find someone to play with and talk over discord, you’ll stop caring about this “problem”
oh so you want me to duo queue as a premade and go against my own code of hating premades? but seriously I literally can not I only have my main account left which i don't dare to use an NA account both soon to be banned an eune account that didn't get any high violation yet (surprisingly) but will get eventually banned i am sure I am sick of this game and sick of these annoying kids booting me out of the game like they are the best representatives of the community
zPOOPz (NA)
: I can see why your teammates don't like you very much.
lool assuming I'd actually act like that with innocent players in my games that guy tried to convince me i am all to blame and defended the pieces of shit I've encountered before it's inexecusable and therefore he's a piece of shit to me as well
rujitra (NA)
: >I mean this is the same company that will ban you for inting because you died to tower a lot (executed) in a normal fucking game *[citation needed]*
I am the citation you want me to dig dirt for that support email or ticket that will take a while the game itself is lost in match history from how old it was I should have bookmarked it my bad that game was too legendary to not be saved
: first off, punctuation is a must. please. Second, your toxic rant is unsympathetic because its just blaming others for your behavior. if someone else is awful, ask them to stop or report them or both. glaming yourself will never resolve anything
: Japan server, thou ur ping gona be crap.
lol is it less toxic because you can't understannd what they are saying?
Rioter Comments
: Assuming you're talking about the players who ask for reports, then yes, they are. That's why they get punished. But if you're talking about the players who play the game without harassing or insulting and report the players who deserve to be punished, then absolutely not. Because if you're toxic and negative, then there's no reason to be playing this game anyway. Especially when you're just going to lose the account due to your negative attitude.
Zombie Gerbil I wouldn't have a negative attitude if people would just stfu and let me play most harassment i get from retaarded premades who get so pissed i don't listen to whatever they order me to do the gross entitlement then whenever I and enemy team banter and shit talk each other they self insert themselves and agree with the enemy stop supporting such gross players behavior they are not a paragon of justice and no they are still toxic even if they didn't use any trigger words because they are stubborn immature and downright taards but you are not gonna understand that your head up your ass that much and riot the piece of shit company ofc wont inb4 just mute them this is a dumb solution because sometimes people don't say any trigger words so what they say isn't toxic enough to warrant a mute but they are still annoying and maddening that i can't focus anymore maybe i have adhd that i can't zone out of someone insulting me i don't know how do you do it but it infuriates me so much I would throw even my life to make sure a pos like that would stfu irl the dark days of me taking shit from people non stop and doing nothing are over people who have negative attitude invisble to the the report system like a dumbass jungler refusing to help even when the rift is on fire because how much the enemy jungler fucked everything up with constant ganks, ally laner refusing to rotate and help where he should be when enemy laner roams or we have a priority lane and having the mentality of "if i lose lane every lane must lose" is just downright disgusting none of that is reportable riot support staff will say stupid shit like they don't have to! don't stick to the meta! people of higher elo stealing your lane you can't do anything about this one you could have waited 10 games to get your role but it still gets stolen once you get it and have you guessed it? it's a 2 man premade who stole it you can't do shit about it because they are higher elo and using their game knowledge to be a piece of shit and deny you every single minion so it's impossible to just ignore them and stay in your lane so you have to fk off and play nasus mid for fk's sake NASUS in a ranged lane fk this shit ofc that will turn me into a pos myself and i'll int to equally ruin their experience don't even try to convince me that if i played it out normally and reported them they will receive any punishment i know they wont, they know they wont and that's what motivates them to be a pos in the first place I mean this is the same company that will ban you for inting because you died to tower a lot (executed) in a normal fucking game so i won't expect any kind of intelligence from their report system whatsoever
EmilyHime (EUW)
: Good players are rare on EUNE its the server of apes
either apes or "smurfs" that rape your butthole that server is seriously crazy i go against plats in normals and even master and diamond players in urf...(who kinda sucked btw) I am low elo..
: intended. Riot said they did this so you don't just buy a first champ, then reroll all your next skin fragments to get all the skins for that champ. After you got them all you would then buy another champ, and do the same thing (preferably starting with ezreal/udyr/sona/lux to get those juicy ultimates)
I got elemental lux permanent skin shard from a box right away without rerolling
: Annoying teammates who don't listen
when I run into teammates like that I usually flame them I know it won't help the situation but I'll be less angry about my frustration disclaimer: dont actually try that and risk a ban
Rioter Comments
Yenn (NA)
: It's been a couple of weeks since Vel'koz was buffed, and his win rate has not moved
nooo don't buff that retaardedly op champ you want people to get one shot before they come back to their tower? you evil you..
Calabok (NA)
: 12000+ games and you should be ready
lol are you serious you can spend your life playing this game and not complete 12000+ games
: > [{quoted}](name=ffat35minute,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eeNx7ZX5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-12-17T00:27:57.774+0000) > > I find gg ez absolutely hilarious when people say it after a very close match or after enemy team wins due to us having 3 afks or some shit otherwise yeah it's obnoxious as shit I guess it's amusing at that point, but I absolutely detest it and anyone who says it when the game is one sided, or when a person gets their ass pounded but their team carries them.
eh you could mute a winning enemy team before they bm you or remind the ones who shittalk but are just as bad or worse that their kda is still visible in the screen and is still shit only thing you have to deal with is post screen toxicity i especially hate that because i have a slow connection people insult me then leave dont even give me a chance to say something back
: Two supps that had support gold income items. Ahri had more gold than you. Annie probably poked more than you did. Womp womp.
she had more gold true but she spent all her gold on support items/tanky items except for a one needlessly large rod while i went full glass canon ap and we only have 1k gold difference almost still she dealt more damage than me do you get what i mean now annie didn't poke more than me i literally killed her by staying afk in a bush just by auto attacks that's how shitty her damage was early as soon as she finished one item and got few kills somehow she got 80% of my hp with her tibbers stun bs and enemy yasuo only had to last hit that damage scaling is bs and orianna can never one shot people like that so fast even with tons of ap items (at least i cant) either elec is broken or annie is broken or both i reckon annie is broken i kind of "main" her myself but never achieved something like that i am not that agressive esp if i had a bad kda lol
: just saying i know that feeling when people troll downvote and not say anything if only plain downvoting isnt allowed it would have to be supported by a answer with it.
that's such a wonderful rule, if only ...it would make boards and sites like reddit so much less cancerous than they are right now being forced to cherry pick every thing you say to not piss off someone is sure exhausting
: > [{quoted}](name=ffat35minute,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eeNx7ZX5,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-12-17T22:57:03.855+0000) > > yeh I was led to believe euw was the most toxic server guess this is just a myth? then again it's maybe because most euw players don't understand english very well so they wont hang up on your every word or they simply dont care As a long time NA player who has an EUW smurf, EUW is the most toxic thing I've ever played on. I don't think I've sustained nearly as many death threats for making a mistake at any other point in my life lol.
I never received any death threats and euw is like my home server lol oh wait i did i get called a feminist and i should better die by a fizz once but he was toxic the entire game i didn't take him seriously there's a difference between someone being salty and some nasty person bullying you non stop sorry for your terrible experiences in euw i know it's a shithole guess some of us just adapt to it NA kids just piss me off for some reason there are people like them in EUW too you know people who are extremely childish and disrespectful they are for me rarer to see in EUW but that's just me
: honestly NA server is just filled with garbage people completely. They just find every way to piss you off every second for no reason. OP described it pretty well. Im 5/1 Nasus complaining about my feeding team, I get multiple on my team and enemy saying "dont play nasus", "nasus you are the boosted one" yea dude im the reason my team is losing XDDDD I made a new account on EUW and my experience is way way better so far (and levels 1-30 are supposedly the most toxic?). At least when ppl flame its because someone is inting or did something extremely stupid.
yeh I was led to believe euw was the most toxic server guess this is just a myth? then again it's maybe because most euw players don't understand english very well so they wont hang up on your every word or they simply dont care
: > [{quoted}](name=ffat35minute,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=eeNx7ZX5,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-17T00:05:15.055+0000) > > no not really quitting but i just don't feel like playing as much anymore > > same shit every game broken champion x has 20 kills and 0 deaths > > people with no sense of shame self respect or decency feeding their asses off and calling you toxic > > actual jackasses purposefully trolling or calling you names without provocation wont even bother to report them because report system is a failure > > > > the only fun part about this game is gathering enough BE to buy a new champ but it takes forever and you need to suffer more of these games to get any exp at all > > > > i can't even tell if this is just how the game is right now or it is NA server because since i "moved" to NA all the negatives aspects of the games amplified 10 fold but it could be just me > > I know this is hardly the place to post things like this but i felt like i had to voice it somehow this game turned from my favorite game that i had some aspirations for to a game where i feel like killing myself after every match > > oh and please don't forget to downvote this i count on you! If someone is being Toxic to you, you are encouraged to report them. If you don't report them they will never have a chance at getting punished, its as simple as that. It may be prudent to play a little safer if you are ending up with heavily fed champions on the enemy team. Otherwise, make sure to ban them during th ban phase! I'm sorry you are feeling stressed and unhappy about League, players can feel very emotional sometimes due to putting in so much time and effort into it just to end up losing, so I know where you are coming from. You have to protect your health and your heart, so its ok to give it a break and do something else! That Time I Was Reincarnated As A Slime is super cute try watching that to bring you the happies! {{sticker:katarina-love}}
I never see anyone getting banned but me and i wont risk getting seriously banned by spam reporting people
: No...no downvotes today, sir. The community is infamous for having people like that, especially in NA, where the most entitled little rats think that they deserve the win for solocarrying with their 1/15 kda. It's not exclusive to NA, but it's something that NA does in a lot of games. That and "gg ez" at the end of games to make sure you know that they beat your ass and there was nothing you could have done.
I find gg ez absolutely hilarious when people say it after a very close match or after enemy team wins due to us having 3 afks or some shit otherwise yeah it's obnoxious as shit
: season 8 and it looks like season 9 just suck total ass.
seems like I joined the game at the worst time possible wish I listened to my friend who invited me to play in 2009
Rioter Comments
Levgre (NA)
: Is MF's ultimate imbalanced/OP?
it's op imo because standing even in the smallest tip of it will still deal 100% of damage and late game mf will one shot you with ulti so fast without you realizing how much damage it dealt before the screen is already grey
: if you ever struggle at farming...
wow i love these cowards who downvote without saying anything what is it did i strike a nerve because i criticized electrocute or annie?
: that's a clear misconception of what damage is : minions = gold <= items <= more damages why did i use the symbol <= ? because is minions effectively are equals to gold income, you're not forced to take item, therefore minions are only a POSSIBILITY : if you have 100000 gold but no damage , that is completely possible because your damages are correlated to your aggressiveness, not exactly your gold income. you might now say that it is useless to have gold if you never attack your opponent , and that is wrong , it's a pvp game where waveclear is equally important, and are a viable way to destroy enemy nexus: when you think about it, killing an enemy is just making sure they can't defend, that's the only reason you want to kill an enemy , otherwise , it's kinda useless (that's why inting sion works). If orianna focus on minions clear, that's completely healthy that she doesn't do as much damages as ahri or annie that focused themselves on hurting their opponent. if you want to analyse deeper try to put these equally important data too into your analyse : damages% (compared to team), damage to turret%, damage to turret, damages to minions,damages blocked. these are the important information you need to know , to be sure they used item effectively.
inting annie works apparently as well because you can be (aggressively) stupid the entire games and once u get one item u one shot people with tibbers and electrocute no comment on the ahri with a half ap item..
Rioter Comments
: Would you rather they give no blue essence like they did at the start of the season?
i dont think it would make a big difference i was waiting for first win of the day to get just enough BE to buy a champ and i was short of 25 BE useless..leveling up is the only way
: When does the punishment system reset
few months but i advice you to not play at that account at all its hard to not be toxic once you are already that deep and the consequences are permanent if you must play dont chat
Chermorg (NA)
: I live in a very conservative part of the country and it's **still** considered socially acceptable to say those things, in any form, in public. That's the key word **in public** - what you do with your friends/in private is none of my concern. What you subject up to 9 other people to? Yes, you can be punished for it because it *is* offensive to *many* people.
so you say public doesn't include 9 years olds why 9 years olds are the supposed main playerbase of a teen rated game who are you guys lying to??
Rioter Comments
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: When I play on EUW I just mute everyone. I don't need to do that on EUNE tho. Of course if I see a psychopath, that is really funny I don't mute him.
you dont meet many toxic people if you learn how to control yourself except the casual trash talkers who think they are way better than you at the game they are in every server I just met a bunch of them in enemy team in NA supposedly "the least toxic server" they are all the same
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: Low elo has its own rules. If the enemy is fed, it doesn't matter, because you are playing a champion that can 1v9. For example if you are playing Jax and you have 9/0/0, you will carry. 4 of enemy can have 9/0/0 as well and it doesn't matter, coz u are Jax. You will hard push and carry. You can do something different with Anivia. When you are fed you can prevent enemy from ending and make the game longer, so that your team can gather items. Her ult can defend a tower 1v5, so you don't need your team for the most of the match, but then you have to protect the game from ending and win when your shitty team gets some gold. The thing is that in low elo they have a lot of kills, but if you have a perfect farming score and kills, they cannot do anything against you. You will have crazy damage, coz gold wins games. When I have 200cs in 20min on Shaco, I kill people with 1 aa. They cannot do anything at all. I am just running and killing. But that is what happens in low elo. If you know how to dominate you dominate.
grr i hate jax i dont play him specifically because hes so fucking broken especially when you build hybrid as ap/ad I solo carried twice with jax first timing him starting coin as first item and laning not even jungling that's how broken he's (i dont even know how to do the stupid ward hop trick) never needed it but hopefully when they bring neeko into euw server they dont nerf her too hard so she becomes my 1vs9 champ i don't mind how broken she's <3 rocking with her in NA rn anivia is squishy dude focusing her is easy when she's locked to her ult position i did that turtling trick once and didn't win :p
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: If you want to learn Shaco you should watch ChaseShaco on Youtube. He is the best Shaco at the moment. Also WhiteCrow, Shaclone, Pink Ward, ShaGod, IWillDominate and InfernalShaco are all great. IWillDominate started as a Shaco main, but can play anything now. He is great at Shaco, but doesn't know all the tricks. He is just a good jungler. WhiteCrow can show you how to use tricks. Shaclone is a toxic shaco player that I like. He isn't using too many tricks, he is just good at ganking as shaco. Pink Ward is a god. ShaGod is one of the best shaco players. In my opinion he can get even better. He can carry with any build and runes. Infernal Shaco is quite good at all parts of Shaco playstyle, but can get better. ChaseShaco is the best. He has a deep understanding of this champion and jungle. I would prefer you to learn from him. His box setup is quite good, but situational and he should do better at explaining why that is stuational (for example he loves to start with 2boxes on red and 2 on krugs, when the enemy starts on blue, because he can go for crab then and get lvl 3 fast and gank). Shaco sucks at laning, but Pink Ward can use it that way anyways. If you want to do a lot of damage you need to be good at this champion, because Shaco is a trash champion xd You need to main him to do damage. Learn from ChaseShaco, his build is the best and meta on Shaco. The thing is that on Shaco you must be the most efficient mother fucker in the universe, if you are not efficient then you are too weak to do damage. Which means, that you need to know how to clear your camps and gank. I prefer doing my red, then going for enemy blue, when he is on red. I can always do his blue, before he gets there. Then I am taking the crab and he has no mana for a gank xd You need to know where he starts to do that. So you need to look at lanes at lvl 1 and then if there is nobody on top lane, because he is leaching and there are 2 people bot lane, you can just go there are pick up blue for free. Building tank isn't bad. You can build anything if you are good. I prefer building damage, because I know that I can get ahead pretty easily if I do my route. In my experience Eune is easier because Euw is full of toxic psychopaths, that want to ruin your game.
more like EUW and OCE are full of toxic psycopaths that never shut up and want you to GET BANNED yeah people who dc on purpose for no good reason to make you lose is a thing in euw too
HÔPÊ (EUW)
: > something else i wanted to mention i dont know how people play in your rank or mmr or whatever but here (i mostly play normals tho) people constantly try to harass you in lane and get as much poke damage as possible on you while trying to farm it's like enemy laner priority is dealing damage to you while you farm not farming itself Hahahaha, I know right? They only fight xd When I was smurfing through low elo I played champions that can carry alone, so that I didn't have to bother with this shit. In low elo you can have fun and go killing people and get fed in almost every game. Or you can pick up a champion that farms well from a distance like Orianna and just farm up 200cs in 20 min and then be an absolute monster. People in that elo cannot farm, they will never be able to fight Ori with 200cs in 20 min. You can also set an example by playing agressive in first 2 min of the game. If you get him lower on hp and he is forced to respect you, he should stop attacking you. You can also come up to a dying minion to last hit him and then get back behind minions and always stay behind range minions, so that if he attacks you, your minions will deal a lot of damage to him and you would probably win that trade without doing anything. I have a friend that is in gold now, just because he was 1v1 me every time I was online. If you have somebody from higher elo in your friends, go and 1v1 them, it is a great learning experience.
I see hard to make them repsect me because i usually play mages that are shit early game but that's a good point just let me farm in peace dammit for 1v1's i can do that but i've been kinda avoiding it because the "1v1 scene" seems more toxic than the actual game itself for example when i made a random custom game 3v3 to test out pyke in pbe enemey kindred who was dominating me was spamming "EZ" "NOOB" when my bot brand killed her lmao oh in low elo games something 'funny' also happens doesnt matter if you are fed because if you are fed chances are 4 of your enemy team are fed as well because your teammates dont care about dying and doing stupid things so being fed is useless or when enemy zed or annie or yasuo leave lane and get a triple kill how do they do that? why don't i get shit when i roam mostly even if i win lane i'll stay useless for the entire game because enemy get fed so easily even when they are trash and i can not
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: > why do you think preseason 9 to be tilting especially? I feel like I had more control over the match in previous seasons. Everything feels random. There is also too much damage in the game. It doesn't feel right even for me when I play an assassin. > this might sound stupid but i find it too boring and tedious to learn how to farm with most champs except annie and fizz because they have targeted farming abilities that reward you for last hitting I was the same. Annie is really easy to play. It is not a bad thing tho. If you like her then play her. It is just that you won't learn how to farm properly with Annie. I started to play Anivia thanks to Froggen being Froggen :) I didn't even know how hard it is to farm with her in early game, but that probably helped me a lot. > champs i do well with in normals are almost always useless in ranked maybe because enemy camp the shit out of me to prevent any kind of advantage or because people make no fucking mistakes in ranked it sounds like i am lying or exaggerating but that's the way i see it People make a lot of mistakes. You will see more when you get better. There is a lot that you have to learn. Enemy is camping you for a reason. You might control a minion wave badly, then he has a free gank on you. Warding is only a temporary answer to ganks, you need to know how to make ganks impossible. Search for wave manipulation of Dopa in YouTube. It should help. The evil demon lord is the best teacher. > people even go as far as predicting all of your moves; so all my skillshots miss, I am constantly zoned, enemies will take all objectives they want and you don't/can't do anything about it, and every "mistake" you make you get one shotted for it It comes to experience and overall knowledge of the game. If you know a lot about the enemy champion and its combos and outplays you can predict them. For example against Zed you know that when he ults you it is better to flash or dash. Zhonia can counter him. You need to make his ult useless, then he is no harm. If you want to hit abilities more often then I would recommend to use tricks like using skillshots when the enemy is stunned, is near a wall (he has one path blocked at that moment and 3 of choices that he still has are up, down and left, from which up and down gives him nothing) and using the minion wave (minions can do the same as wall, they can block one way of escape and then he is out of options). Sometimes it is better not to use stuns, because you can engage or disengage with it. When somebody sees that you used your dash or ult, he will gank you. So without it you need to play safe. > flashing away from zed after his R animation will make his R fail since he wont be doing a lot of damage to you (unless hes a really good zed) Oh, so you know about it. It is always better to have more than one way of survival. After you flash his ult you can get ganked easily. > it's really hard to find a decent build that work with a certain champion for certain runes and fits my play style so dont expect me to ditch a trusted build amidst a match i am trying to win and go experimental mode It is not experimental. You need armor vs ad and mr vs ap. If they have a normal team I would use a normal, optimal build that I always use, but when they go heavy ad or both enemy laner and enemy jungler are ad, I would go armor most likely. If they are both ap, i would go mr. It doesn't matter that I do more damage if I am dead. > for example archangel's stuff is a MUST for every mage because it provides me with tons of mana to spam my abilities that's why i build it almost every game last game i didnt build it because i had early advantage so i didnt need tons of mana to survive in lane etc I build it only on Anivia xd I prefer to farm by not using abilities too much but with Anivia I need to farm with ult. It is easier to go for Echo Luden on most mages. Orianna uses it especially well. > dont really know what you are implyiing with building the same set of items every game i could build iceborn gauntlet and frozen heart instead for mana but they are not as efficient on lux and karma because they are not tanky champions? and damage is better You are right that some champion build only damage. Lux is a good example. She doesn't build anything but damage. All she needs is damage. Even tho Shaco can just walk up to you can kill you with one aa if you have no armor. Sometimes you need more armor or mr, even tho you don't want it. Find the best player of your champion and learn from him. Also watch Dopa, he is a master of this game. The True Demon Lord.
something else i wanted to mention i dont know how people play in your rank or mmr or whatever but here (i mostly play normals tho) people constantly try to harass you in lane and get as much poke damage as possible on you while trying to farm it's like enemy laner priority is dealing damage to you while you farm not farming itself it's a bit annoying but unless i harass them back they will bully me out of my lane i didnt meet many passive laners they all want to kill me or kick me out of lane as soon as i set foot in lane even if they werent obvious about it they all want to get a kill and snowball none really cares about farming this is why i need a lot of mana to defend myself and keep farming as much as possible as i said before if i were playing fizz or annie i would much rather farm the entire game it's just sooo fun to farm with those champs also farm=more gold=more damage when needed in a fight but you know most enemy laners or jungler won't just let you do that regardless of their skill level or damage they deal to me compared to mine they are always trying to bully me out of lane every single game sometimes (rarely tho) i can 'outplay' them both in ranked i have no chance to do that for obvious reasons or if i am not playing something at optimal damage and runes i get bullied in lane so easily 9/10 of times
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: > why do you think preseason 9 to be tilting especially? I feel like I had more control over the match in previous seasons. Everything feels random. There is also too much damage in the game. It doesn't feel right even for me when I play an assassin. > this might sound stupid but i find it too boring and tedious to learn how to farm with most champs except annie and fizz because they have targeted farming abilities that reward you for last hitting I was the same. Annie is really easy to play. It is not a bad thing tho. If you like her then play her. It is just that you won't learn how to farm properly with Annie. I started to play Anivia thanks to Froggen being Froggen :) I didn't even know how hard it is to farm with her in early game, but that probably helped me a lot. > champs i do well with in normals are almost always useless in ranked maybe because enemy camp the shit out of me to prevent any kind of advantage or because people make no fucking mistakes in ranked it sounds like i am lying or exaggerating but that's the way i see it People make a lot of mistakes. You will see more when you get better. There is a lot that you have to learn. Enemy is camping you for a reason. You might control a minion wave badly, then he has a free gank on you. Warding is only a temporary answer to ganks, you need to know how to make ganks impossible. Search for wave manipulation of Dopa in YouTube. It should help. The evil demon lord is the best teacher. > people even go as far as predicting all of your moves; so all my skillshots miss, I am constantly zoned, enemies will take all objectives they want and you don't/can't do anything about it, and every "mistake" you make you get one shotted for it It comes to experience and overall knowledge of the game. If you know a lot about the enemy champion and its combos and outplays you can predict them. For example against Zed you know that when he ults you it is better to flash or dash. Zhonia can counter him. You need to make his ult useless, then he is no harm. If you want to hit abilities more often then I would recommend to use tricks like using skillshots when the enemy is stunned, is near a wall (he has one path blocked at that moment and 3 of choices that he still has are up, down and left, from which up and down gives him nothing) and using the minion wave (minions can do the same as wall, they can block one way of escape and then he is out of options). Sometimes it is better not to use stuns, because you can engage or disengage with it. When somebody sees that you used your dash or ult, he will gank you. So without it you need to play safe. > flashing away from zed after his R animation will make his R fail since he wont be doing a lot of damage to you (unless hes a really good zed) Oh, so you know about it. It is always better to have more than one way of survival. After you flash his ult you can get ganked easily. > it's really hard to find a decent build that work with a certain champion for certain runes and fits my play style so dont expect me to ditch a trusted build amidst a match i am trying to win and go experimental mode It is not experimental. You need armor vs ad and mr vs ap. If they have a normal team I would use a normal, optimal build that I always use, but when they go heavy ad or both enemy laner and enemy jungler are ad, I would go armor most likely. If they are both ap, i would go mr. It doesn't matter that I do more damage if I am dead. > for example archangel's stuff is a MUST for every mage because it provides me with tons of mana to spam my abilities that's why i build it almost every game last game i didnt build it because i had early advantage so i didnt need tons of mana to survive in lane etc I build it only on Anivia xd I prefer to farm by not using abilities too much but with Anivia I need to farm with ult. It is easier to go for Echo Luden on most mages. Orianna uses it especially well. > dont really know what you are implyiing with building the same set of items every game i could build iceborn gauntlet and frozen heart instead for mana but they are not as efficient on lux and karma because they are not tanky champions? and damage is better You are right that some champion build only damage. Lux is a good example. She doesn't build anything but damage. All she needs is damage. Even tho Shaco can just walk up to you can kill you with one aa if you have no armor. Sometimes you need more armor or mr, even tho you don't want it. Find the best player of your champion and learn from him. Also watch Dopa, he is a master of this game. The True Demon Lord.
thanks for the replies and tips could you help me learn how to play shaco properly? i play him sometimes on an eune account but i kinda suck at him i know good shaco's are scary I just met one at ranked game i was ashe i get one shot before i even have the chance to flash when i play him i dont deal nearly as much damage (i dont like jungling tho so i take him in lane) he kinda lacks farming tools in his kit to be a laner ik but i still try to play him bot as support or something my damage with him is mediocre lol never been good enough to get a full build match but i start lethality he's also awfully squishy and get cc'd and one shot so easily late game forcing me to build tank shaco sometimes anyways but that's eune server and from my experience eune is crazier than euw but also kinda easier
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