: > [{quoted}](name=heartless angel,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TgPEqQHO,comment-id=000c00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T06:21:05.346+0000) > > you should apply to become a riot supporter, because you fail in answering anything, just like they always do. just dodge the question entirely and focus it on what i did, while that was not at all the question. also, i didnt talk about 'who started it', i talked about intention, because thats what rules and punishments are based on, intention. just like in the real world, the rules, laws and punishments accordingly are based on intention, i dont see a single reason why riot wouldnt, yet i always see posts everywhere about ppl getting banned for absolutely nothing, or just because they said 'kys' once because they got flamed and tired of it, but people actually luring out fights, people that just say 'kys', use slurs, and whatever, just to harrass others (or as you call it, they 'start it'), are often left unpunished, even after tickets have been made for them. > > the system is flawed and it is proven again and again, yet people like you who just continuously keep dodging all the evidence, all the question, just everything, keep supporting the system. > > I wouldnt be mad about my punishment or anyone else's punishment for that matter if everyone would be punished in the same way, however that is proven to be not the case. the system is not consistent. when 1 gets instantly banned for apparently 'wishing someone harm', others who actually wish someone harm and do so with the intent to do this, are getting a pass. What question did I not address?
: > [{quoted}](name=heartless angel,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TgPEqQHO,comment-id=000c000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T19:32:35.889+0000) > >honestly whats it with people and not even being able to read and answer questions, nowhere did i ask about myself or did i try to justify myself, 2 reasons to this: my primary concern when I'm answering others regarding punishments is that they not repeat anything that could lead to another punishment, which is why I addressed that. The other reason being that when people come to the boards talking about their punishments, it's common that they bring up others' behavior in game, and often who started the problematic behavior to begin with. I never feel that it's a good idea to focus on any one else's behavior but one's own behavior. I can't speak to why other players were not banned that you feel like should have been banned, even according to what I've said in this thread. Everyone is held accountable for their own actions. Do I think they should have been banned for saying someone should harm themselves and using slurs? Yes. But I don't know why they aren't banned; what I do know is that those things aren't ok to say in League, or anywhere for that matter. Personally, I would put the matter behind you. People that act like that and think they can get away with that behavior are not long for this game.
you should apply to become a riot supporter, because you fail in answering anything, just like they always do. just dodge the question entirely and focus it on what i did, while that was not at all the question. also, i didnt talk about 'who started it', i talked about intention, because thats what rules and punishments are based on, intention. just like in the real world, the rules, laws and punishments accordingly are based on intention, i dont see a single reason why riot wouldnt, yet i always see posts everywhere about ppl getting banned for absolutely nothing, or just because they said 'kys' once because they got flamed and tired of it, but people actually luring out fights, people that just say 'kys', use slurs, and whatever, just to harrass others (or as you call it, they 'start it'), are often left unpunished, even after tickets have been made for them. the system is flawed and it is proven again and again, yet people like you who just continuously keep dodging all the evidence, all the question, just everything, keep supporting the system. I wouldnt be mad about my punishment or anyone else's punishment for that matter if everyone would be punished in the same way, however that is proven to be not the case. the system is not consistent. when 1 gets instantly banned for apparently 'wishing someone harm', others who actually wish someone harm and do so with the intent to do this, are getting a pass.
: > [{quoted}](name=heartless angel,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TgPEqQHO,comment-id=000c0001,timestamp=2019-06-17T23:27:43.790+0000) > > are 'i hope your brother gets raped by 4 14-inch black dick while your mother has you watch this act' and 'kys stupid bushni**er' zero tolerance phrases, because neither of the people that said this to me (for no reason) have been banned, and when i made a ticket for me, all they ever reply is 'we can assure that people will get the punishment they deserve' while we re already a month later and they re still happily playing without any consequences. (or mby a chat-ban, but then i wonder why i get instantly get a 14-day-ban for saying neck yourself to someone who flamed me the whole game, while these two said it without any reason whatsoever.) Neck yourself is a threat and would likely get a 2 week suspension. Thatโ€™s unfortunate that all was said to you, but that never gives you a free pass to be negative back.
first of all, neck yourself is not a threat, its a suggestion. second, the rito supporters labeled it 'wishing someone harm' in my ticket, which is ofc also bs, but ok. anyway, i doubt that you have even read what i asked. since rito says 'wishing someone harm' is an instant 14-day-ban, then tell me why those two quotes i gave you got a pass? tell me, why arent those two banned while they said that without a reason, when i get banned for saying it to someone raging me. tell me, are those two phrases 'zero tolerance phrases'? honestly whats it with people and not even being able to read and answer questions, nowhere did i ask about myself or did i try to justify myself, all i ask is if those two phrases are zero tolerance phrases, and assuming they are, why do i get banned for 'defending' myself with a 'zero tolerance phrase' but those two dont get banned for 'assaulting' with a 'zero tolerance phrase'?
: Yes, when threats are detected, they are typically met with a 2-week suspension, thus why it's considered a zero tolerance phrase. I don't know about "r%%%%%" being zero tolerance, tbh.
are 'i hope your brother gets raped by 4 14-inch black dick while your mother has you watch this act' and 'kys stupid bushni**er' zero tolerance phrases, because neither of the people that said this to me (for no reason) have been banned, and when i made a ticket for me, all they ever reply is 'we can assure that people will get the punishment they deserve' while we re already a month later and they re still happily playing without any consequences. (or mby a chat-ban, but then i wonder why i get instantly get a 14-day-ban for saying neck yourself to someone who flamed me the whole game, while these two said it without any reason whatsoever.)
Kei143 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=heartless angel,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9RxqAG43,comment-id=0003000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-03T20:10:08.669+0000) > > also, the fact that you dont want to tell me your reason because you think things will go southbound once you really makes me think that you already know how broken their system is, but you dont want to admit it. If you want to have a discussion about punishment regarding intention over words, start a new thread. Since this will be my last reply to you in this thread, I'll let you know what that reason is. **The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. ** You aren't applying it. AKA you are exaggerating and/ or lying.
quite a bold statement there, but i can assure you that everything i have said in this thread, and everywhere for that matter, is nothing but the truth. everything i write are examples of things that have already happened to me or close friends, those zero tolerance phrases that i asked you to justify i did not make up, no, they were actually used against me or friends of mine. I am a man that listens to logic and proof, if i would lie, then what would be the meaning of all of this, to proof a lie? no im here for justice and an equal system. as for 'start a new thread', this is a thread for people that think they were unfairly banned, since the a lot of people get banned because riot doesnt ban you for your intention, but for your choice of words, then i think that's unfair and absolutely not equal, therefor it would fit perfectly here. This is even more so the case when you realize that people that start the game by flaming, so with the intention to provoke/hurt, or flame needlessly because they got destroyed by their opponents, dont get banned, because of 'leniency', but when you make one mistake by retaliating to a troll/flamer, then it's an instant ban for you. (talking only about zero tolerance phrases) point is, riot has to either start distinguishing between intention, or get rid of zero tolerance phrases and either threat and ban all swearwords in the same manner, or dont ban them at all, but to make distinguish within one group that means one and the same thing online, that's just nonsense, we re online on a gaming platform, we are not on social media, not real life, we dont know you or anything about you, so fact stay that here, all swearwords, be it %%%%%% or kys, r%%%%% or idiot, all mean the same, namely nothing, theyre just words chosen based on your origin, used to express frustration or anger. (and for all of those that think that things like kys should be punished harder, because of depressed people, do you really think that when you are depressed, that it matters which swearword is used? no matter which swearword is used against them, they will feel belittled, it will make them feel like they re worth even less, and eventually push them to the edge of suicide. its not a matter of word choice, its a matter of negativity.)
Kei143 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=heartless angel,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9RxqAG43,comment-id=00030001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-03T17:32:44.256+0000) > > first of all, there shouldn't be two parts to the verbal system, we are online here, noone will say %%% and mean 'homosexual', noone will say %%%%%% because they think you re black and want to demean you for that. here, %%%, %%%%%%, kys, whatever, theyre all just the same meaningless swearwords, theyre all substitutes of each other Hate speech, slurs and encouraging others to harm themselves is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRR from swear words. If that's your mindset, then be careful, that mindset will get you into deep deep DEEEEEPPP trouble. > > how do you justify someone saying 'stfu %%%%%%, i hope your family gets raped by 14 men while you have to watch' and someone else saying 'kys stupid bush%%%%%%' not getting a 14-day-ban while they are clearly 'Zero Tolerance phrases'? that's what i mean with inconsistancy, i know they go hard on their 'Zero Tolerance phrases' thats why i only follow people that clearly use those, but i still have yet to see one of them banned. They call it "zero tolerance", but as I've said before, there's SOME leniency. So it's not really "ZERO" tolerance. It all depends on your behavioral history. > > Also, you talk about meters and bars that fill, whatever, and that depending on how full that bar is that you get more easily banned, or get warnings, but how do you explain that i haven't gotten a single warning in over 5 years Define a warning. My definition of a warning is a Chat Restriction, and I've already answered why you aren't getting chat restrictions. > As for the last reason you gave (the one you didnt want to say), i can guarantee you he doesn't know anything The specific reason (which I didn't want to say) doesn't have anything to do with your friend. I still don't want to say it as I know it'll instantly turn this discussion southbound. > > lastly, i d love to know how you know so much about how the system supposedly works. Been in Player Behavior for 5 years now. You read through every article and red post pertaining to PB. You get to pick up alot of stuff here and there.
they are far more than swearwords? maybe in the real world where you can your 'opponent's' race, gender, sexuality, whatever, but here, where everyone is equal, the swearwords are equal too, as i already said, noone here uses a racial slur because its a racial slur, they use it because its a swearword. lets say they DO mean it in that way, then i can almost assure you that their intention is different from most 'flamers'. most people that get banned get banned for retaliating to a troller/flamer/whatever. its hate towards a person behaviour in the game, not hate towards their race, gender, sexuality, whatever, like you riot thinks it is. However when you start raging out of nowhere, for no reason at all, then it goes without speaking that their intention is different too, namely just to troll/hurt people. It is much more likely that they idd do mean what they say, and their slurs are in fact slurs and not just swearwords, but even then, that is not always the case, because we cant see one's race online, we cant know one's gender or sexuality, fact is, online, you will use whatever swearword you are most familiar with, and if you associate it with a slur, then so be it, but to treat it different from the other swearwords is absolute nonsense. As i already said, riot shouldn't distinguish between words, but rather between intentions, was their intention to hurt, to provoke, or to retaliate? as for the zero tolerance phrases that you were not able to justify at all; 'some leniency'?! you want to tell me that it is ok to start off a game with 'stfu %%%%%%' and then tell them you hope their family gets raped while you have to watch, only because someone said hi? you want to tell me that that should go unpunished because 'you dont know if they have been toxic before' but when someone retaliates and uses a zero tolerance phrase, they get banned instantly? as for me, i know my history, i know im definitely super calm, however i do know my chat every game looks approximately like this: 'pls stay away. go away. cant read? fuck off. tax or int, just fuck off' needless to say im talking to my jungler who completely fails every time he comes, so i prefer them not in my lane, but they never listen, but in the case that they actually do succeed, i will gladly say 'ty' or 'gj', but i guess saying 'fuck off' filled my bar enough for an instant ban after one zero tolerance phrase hm. :) also, the fact that you dont want to tell me your reason because you think things will go southbound once you really makes me think that you already know how broken their system is, but you dont want to admit it.
Kei143 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=heartless angel,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=9RxqAG43,comment-id=000300010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-02T23:38:37.335+0000) > > in your example, all verbal toxicity is equal, just like it should be (with the exception of death threats directed directly to someone.) **riot however does not have this policy, where everything is equal. ** The bolded part is correct. The formula the behavioral system uses is Punishment = consistency x severity. Upon being reported, it will flag the system to review the game and grade the toxicity within the game. You can be found to have 0 toxicity, or have extreme toxicity. Mildly toxic things like asking for reports or saying ggez is like .. a toxicity score of 1/100. Saying mildly toxic stuff multiple times within the same game will increase the toxicity score. > You will not get a warning for saying 'kys', '%%%', %%%%%%, the list goes on, > > whereas if you were to use something 'lighter' you will get a warning (which is also not always the case, since riot is inconsistant af, same counts for the 'extreme' cases where noone gets banned.) before you get banned or chat restricted, while both these two 'extreme' and 'light' variants are in essence the same, namely you being 'rowdy'. There's actually 2 parts to the verbal system. One part deals with Zero Tolerance phrases, and the other for regular chat. Whatever I mentioned is mainly for the regular chat. But in general, Zero tolerance doesn't have warnings, or rather, the 14-day ban is the warning. Although Zero Tolerance phrases has *some* leniency. > I myself for instance have receiver several 14-day-bans already, however i have yet to receive my first warning or chat restriction, all because they don't see verbal toxicity, or in this case written toxicity as equal. > Also as i mentioned, they re inconsistant as hell, i have been banned for saying 'neck yourself' once, Once you get to the 14-day ban phase, your next punishment will be a permaban unless you drop punishment tiers. You drop punishment tiers by playing lots of games. For a player with average game time, it takes around 3 months to drop a punishment tier. Once you drop a punishment tier, your next punishment will be a 14-day ban instead of a permaban. If you want chat restrictions instead of a 14-day ban, then you'll need to drop at least 2 punishment tiers. On a side note, your positive honors progress is not an indication of whether you've dropped punishment tiers. We've seen people been awarded a new honor level and then punished the next game. > whereas a friend of mine says it every game and has gotten honor level 5 with it and still hasnt received a single penalty for it. Regarding your friend, there are 4 possibilities to why he isn't punished. * He's not getting reported; * he's using other accounts to spread out the toxicity * He's hiding stuff from you * there's one more reason contributing to him not getting punished (many, and I might even use "99%" instead of the word "many", complainers actually use this strategy), and I won't say what that reason is right now, but I'm sure alot of the regular PB members know what I'm talking about. > ofcourse one example isn't enough to call it proof for their inconsistancy, but believe me when i say that i ve been tailing a lot of toxic people who have gone and said a lot of things that should go against riots 'no-tolerance-policy', yet they still haven't been banned. also, there are more than enough video's only about people inting/trolling/flaming without consequences. > > anyway, point being, your example is nice, and i wish that would be the case with riots system, but it just isn't because they don't view everything as equal, and even within their own standards, they're still inconsistant. Lesser about inconsistency, more about lack of clarity. You don't know about other people's behavioral history and where other people are on the toxicity meter. You also don't know what toxicity score the system assigns for someone's chat. Meaning you wouldn't know whether their chat will get them punished. If people knew those two things, then "inconsistency" would never be part of the conversation. But inorder for people to not question the consistency, ** Riot first has to increase the player's knowledge of how the system works as well as the transparency and clarity of how the system. **
first of all, there shouldn't be two parts to the verbal system, we are online here, noone will say %%% and mean 'homosexual', noone will say %%%%%% because they think you re black and want to demean you for that. here, %%%, %%%%%%, kys, whatever, theyre all just the same meaningless swearwords, theyre all substitutes of each other, and depending on where you grew up, which environment you grew up in, you choose one of these swearwords to flame, and depending on which swearword you pick, you get a ban as warning, or an actual warning as warning, which makes no sense. riot punishes people their choice of words with this, not the actual intention as i already said. About me needing to talk less about inconsistancy, you have said it yourself, 'Zero Tolerance phrases' have no warnings, so how do you justify someone saying 'stfu %%%%%%, i hope your family gets raped by 14 men while you have to watch' and someone else saying 'kys stupid bush%%%%%%' not getting a 14-day-ban while they are clearly 'Zero Tolerance phrases'? that's what i mean with inconsistancy, i know they go hard on their 'Zero Tolerance phrases' thats why i only follow people that clearly use those, but i still have yet to see one of them banned. Also, you talk about meters and bars that fill, whatever, and that depending on how full that bar is that you get more easily banned, or get warnings, but how do you explain that i haven't gotten a single warning in over 5 years (not even one of those notifications in your client that say 'you ve been reported for bad behaviour, try to watch it' or whatever it says) which would indicate that my bar wasn't filled that much at all, yet i was banned instantly for saying 'neck yourself' once. When you answer with 'its a Zero Tolerance phrase' then keep in mind that all the examples (which i sadly didnt even make up) are all also by that standard Zero Tolerance phrases but have not been banned. As for my friend, i can guarantee you that he does not hide things from me, as we both openly laugh about rito's flawed system, also, lets say he does hide things from me, i have seen with my own eyes that he hasnt been banned (suspended or chatbanned) since i play with him frequently. He also doesnt have other accounts, because he doesnt care bout this game to make more accounts and if he were to make another account to spread toxicity, then that would fail to suffice as proof of how flawed rito's system is, hence we cant ridicule it. As for the last reason you gave (the one you didnt want to say), i can guarantee you he doesn't know anything about that since he's not the brightest, so your last available reason is that he didnt get reported, but in all honesty, thats also very unlikely, since he doesnt only flame. but also trolls a lot. My only explaination would be that the system is flawed as fuck. lastly, i d love to know how you know so much about how the system supposedly works.
Kei143 (NA)
: Not sure why people have to resort to the more extreme examples when trying to use real life as examples. Try using something that is a closer representation of verbal toxicity instead, like you getting rowdy in a restaurant or movie theater. They would first tell you to settle down a few times and if you kept up the rowdiness, then they'll throw you out of the establishment and eventually tell you that you aren't welcome in the establishment.
i agree, however, in your example, all verbal toxicity is equal, just like it should be (with the exception of death threats directed directly to someone.) riot however does not have this policy, where everything is equal. You will not get a warning for saying 'kys', '%%%', %%%%%%, the list goes on, whereas if you were to use something 'lighter' you will get a warning (which is also not always the case, since riot is inconsistant af, same counts for the 'extreme' cases where noone gets banned.) before you get banned or chat restricted, while both these two 'extreme' and 'light' variants are in essence the same, namely you being 'rowdy'. I myself for instance have receiver several 14-day-bans already, however i have yet to receive my first warning or chat restriction, all because they don't see verbal toxicity, or in this case written toxicity as equal. Also as i mentioned, they re inconsistant as hell, i have been banned for saying 'neck yourself' once, whereas a friend of mine says it every game and has gotten honor level 5 with it and still hasnt received a single penalty for it. ofcourse one example isn't enough to call it proof for their inconsistancy, but believe me when i say that i ve been tailing a lot of toxic people who have gone and said a lot of things that should go against riots 'no-tolerance-policy', yet they still haven't been banned. also, there are more than enough video's only about people inting/trolling/flaming without consequences. anyway, point being, your example is nice, and i wish that would be the case with riots system, but it just isn't because they don't view everything as equal, and even within their own standards, they're still inconsistant.
: > since that again proves that you could go on a raging spree for hours, as long as you dont use any of the words No, that doesn't prove any such thing. lol What kind of logic are you using here?
sry, that is ofc half of the proof, the other half would be the fact that you dont get banned when you use 'lighter' swearwords, like idiot, or moron. I also want to say btw that when they say things arent allowed, no matter the circumstances, they also make exceptions for that, i can name a lot of them, but i think the best one for now is my friend who got honor level 5 while starting off everything single game with 'kys i hope your family dies' in all chat. anyway, again, what kind of proof do you want?
: > rito admitted they made a mistake once when they banned me for saying %%% about my own champ, got banned 14-days instantly without warning, but they reversed it While I don't think you have any reason to lie, I don't know you. Proof or it didn't happen. You aren't allowed to use homophobic slurs in chat to describe **anything**.
" You aren't allowed to use homophobic slurs in chat to describe anything." is again bollocks, since that again proves that you could go on a raging spree for hours, as long as you dont use any of the words on their instant-ban-list. either ban everything or ban nothing. anyway, in what form can i provide proof? for as far as i know, noone else but me is able to see my tickets, and if i quote whatever they said to me, you could also say that i made that up too. btw, i might have worded it wrong, rito didn't admit they made a mistake, they 'finalised their investigation and decided that the punishment was not applied correctly.' (also, maybe because i didn't mean it in a homophobic way, they went light on me? just thinking out loud tho (said it about ww, i dont think anything thinks he's homosexual.)
: The point I was trying to make is that "fair" is a subjective word defined by the person being punished. Was the guy in your example unfairly punished? Was it fair for everyone who had to deal with him unilaterally deciding how things were gonna go down and upsetting everyone that got teamed with him? Riot ultimately gets to decide what's fair. Show me an example where they said the ban was a mistake and reversed it. And as far as your "one of those guys comments," yeah, I'm the guy who follows the rules when I'm in someone else's house. If I had a problem with Riot's rules, I'd talk with my time/money and move on.
rito admitted they made a mistake once when they banned me for saying %%% about my own champ, got banned 14-days instantly without warning, but they reversed it. however, i can guarantee you that when you get banned for saying smth to another summoner, that there is no way to reverse it, because idd rito gets to decide what's fair or not. that's also the reason they use vague terms like 'extremely' and 'excessive'. It doesn't matter what you said, they will lable it as smth bad and you ll get banned for it. does whatever you said mean nothing? doesnt matter, rito will quote you the urban dictionary! did you make the same mistake twice? rito will lable the same mistake under two different categories. point is that rito will do, say, and make up anything to justify their bans. (also if you ask anything that might prove them wrong (or anything at all for that matter,) they will just ignore the question.)
Kei143 (NA)
: I wasn't expecting that I needed to explain the system in a meme thread, but here goes. Think of the behavioral system like a health bar (or tension meter) in music games. When you hit the note at an off beat, your tension meter increases. When you completely miss a note, the meter increases by alot. When you hit the note at good timings, it reduces the meter. Riot's behavior system works the same way, as in we all have a toxicity meter attached to our accounts. When players are mildly toxic, it goes up a tad. When people use hate speech, it pretty much fills up the meter. of course, clean games reduce the meter. It is possible for playerA to get punished and playerB not to, even though playerB was waaayyyyy more toxic . Let's say playerA started the game with the toxicity meter at 95% and playerB's at 35%. Ingame, playerB said some pretty nasty shit and playerA responds with some shit as well. After the game, playerA gains 10% toxicity and playerB gains 50%. Now playerA is at 105% toxicity and gets punished, whereas playerB is at 85%, and not punished in that specific game, even though playerB was found to be 5x more toxic than playerA in that game.
although i don't want to believe this since riot supporters have told me many times that they have a 'no-tolerance-policy' for a lot of things and that those things will get instantly banned (like for instance racial slurs or suggesting self-harm (even though they don't even call it that themselves, they have called it 'wishing someone harm' or 'issuing a death threat' whenever they talked to me about it (talking about 'kys))), but when i look at my own experiences, people who have said 'stfu %%%%%%, i hope your family gets raped while you have to watch' to me when i said hi in chat don't get banned. same counts for people that have said 'kys stupid bush%%%%%%' because they got ambushed. But when i say 'neck yourself' to someone who flamed me all game, then that apparently fills my bar completely because i also continuously keep telling my junglers to 'fuck off out of my lane' because all they ever do is int. this all leads me to believe that there may be a grain of truth to your story. lets just assume that your story is true, and the system is indeed like that and that there is a bar that you need to fill, then that is complete and utter bullshit. Imagine this shit happening in real life, that you only get punished after you have assaulted someone 5 times in a short timespan. you could assault someone and nothing would happen. you could assault someone every month as long as you always keep enough time between your assault. In what world would a system like this be ok? why do people even accept a system like this? well tbh i dont think a lot of people do, but we dont have power, and riot couldnt care less. they already have our money so they don't care anymore. their client is still laggy and buggy af, for years, morde had over 180 bugs which they refuse to look into, and now they just 'delete' him so they dont have to fix them, loot system still not working properly in a lot of cases, rp purchases also not working properly, etc. Let's also not forget about the scandal inside the riot offices, about how apparently most men there are sexist and use a lot of the words they said they do not tolerate themselves (like the n-word.) Slowly riot is looking more like a corrupt country with a broken law than a company, where they serve 'justice' as they see fit, however for themselves, it is 'everything goes'.
Vegito101 (EUNE)
: U see there is a problem.First what they need to do since they do not have good system to detect inters and trollers is to publicly admit it. And second selective justice is not good justice. IF they can't detect trolls and inters then they should have more understanding towards those who suffer from inting and trolling .It is not fair that people suffer because of incompetence from Riot...
the selective justice already starts with the 'insta-banlist' that riot has. In most cases you don't even get banned for raging or flaming, but for the words you use to do so. Two people could have the same bad intention, namely flaming/raging/retaliating/whatever but since they grew up in different invironments, they will use different swearwords to do so, so let's say one of them says %%% and the other one just say idiot, then only the one saying %%% will get banned because it's a 'homophobic slur' while their intention is one and the same.
: actually it has been proven that stuff like kys and any other term for someone to commit suicide can almost guarantee being banned/restricted riot suicide stuff really gets on riots nerves for some reason
ye i have noticed that, but there are so many problems with that, because they don't ban you for flaming, they ban you based on which words you use to flame (which is in most cases directly related to where you grew up.) Either ban everything or ban nothing. Also, like i have said before, people who said the same as i, or worse, without any actual 'reason' (like getting flamed) don't get banned, and when you make a ticket for it with hard proof like screenshots, riot just completely ignores you, which angers me beyond belief. (btw, a friend of mine also proved that you can actually get honor 5 by starting the game by saying 'kys, i hope all your families die' in all-chat, so good job on that one rito)
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