Wolfeur (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XKENUckG,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-21T11:27:08.287+0000) > > to anyone with gambling issues it however does not matter whether lootboxes affect gameplay or are purely cosmetic and whether or not they got good or bad drop rates, to them it's gambling just the same so long as you can buy them with money. Yeah, but as I said, I don't like that lootboxes are buyable. But also, people with those needs are rare. On a general standpoint, it's not dickish to put cosmetics behind a paywall, while making the game P2W is.
> [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XKENUckG,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-21T13:26:03.711+0000) > > Yeah, but as I said, I don't like that lootboxes are buyable. But also, people with those needs are rare. On a general standpoint, it's not dickish to put cosmetics behind a paywall, while making the game P2W is. those needs being ''rare'' isn't an excuse, lives are being ruined because of either children spending thousands or adults with gambling addiction spending thousands on them, it can ruin their life and lootboxes are to blame for that and it's scum behaviour, it's the same with me, I got hooked on the gambling lootboxes this game has to get those super special awesome gemstone skins, spent so much money I didn't even have money left to buy food. Ofcourse you can have cosmetics behind a paywall, F2P games have been doing that for years, you pay 5/10 euro and you get a cosmetic item, but that's gone away, now you need to gamble with these lootboxes to get what you want. Having cosmetic gambling is bad and predatory Having P2W gambling is bad, ruins the game balance and is predatory
: [GAMEPLAY] Riven's Q With 100% Consistency Fails to Deal Damage
fix is simple, riven's Q cooldown now starts after casting last part of Q, problem solved and riven got a nerf she needs
Wolfeur (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XKENUckG,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-21T07:06:00.485+0000) > > reminds me of overwatch's release > EA has lootboxes? FUCK EA THOSE EVIL SCUMBAGS > entire communtiy shitting on EA > *activision blizzard releases overwatch with lootboxes* > ''oh I don't know guys it's blizzard, it's optional it's not so bad!'' > seriously fanboys are a plague, they can justify anything, go back several years and activision blizzard could kill a puppy on a livestream and fanboys would still defend them There is a difference when lootboxes are purely cosmetics and drop at a nice rate. I do dislike that you can buy boxes, though (well, not in Belgium anymore, at least)
> [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XKENUckG,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-21T07:38:32.134+0000) > > There is a difference when lootboxes are purely cosmetics and drop at a nice rate. I do dislike that you can buy boxes, though (well, not in Belgium anymore, at least) to anyone with gambling issues it however does not matter whether lootboxes affect gameplay or are purely cosmetic and whether or not they got good or bad drop rates, to them it's gambling just the same so long as you can buy them with money.
: When will inting trash like this ever get dealt with?
this picture shows why people more quickly get banned for language than they do for intentionally feeding, for all we know that karma could have started feeding the moment she got 14 assists, but we may never know, where as with language is obvious when there is a problem.
: > [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XKENUckG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-21T04:25:45.656+0000) > > Yeah League has been a successful and popular game for over a decade now. But people then when Riot changes something in a greedy way, people are like "You know it's a business right how else will Riot make money?!?" > > and I'm like "Idk maybe the same way they have become a billon dollar game company over the course of a decade? I think they are making *plenty* of money as is without some weird new monitization" It's funny how people even defend Riot "chest" saying "RIOT IS GIVING US FREE SKIN". No you stupid morons that's like every loot game they purposely give you little by little to entice you so it looks like they're kind so you will be addicted to pull these loot box. EA/Activision/Valve does this but when Riot does it no one brings this up? Yes it's a free to play game but they already made their money back 100x.
> [{quoted}](name=LegendmakerGTX,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XKENUckG,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-21T04:47:51.319+0000) > > It's funny how people even defend Riot "chest" saying "RIOT IS GIVING US FREE SKIN". > > No you stupid morons that's like every loot game they purposely give you little by little to entice you so it looks like they're kind so you will be addicted to pull these loot box. EA/Activision/Valve does this but when Riot does it no one brings this up? Yes it's a free to play game but they already made their money back 100x. reminds me of overwatch's release EA has lootboxes? FUCK EA THOSE EVIL SCUMBAGS entire communtiy shitting on EA *activision blizzard releases overwatch with lootboxes* ''oh I don't know guys it's blizzard, it's optional it's not so bad!'' seriously fanboys are a plague, they can justify anything, go back several years and activision blizzard could kill a puppy on a livestream and fanboys would still defend them
Rioter Comments
: Your post is too long and a tad too politicized. Not two people will agree on politics even if they come from the same ideological background (personally i believe all this trash labeling socialist, communist, whateverist is going to become obselete real soon). Just leave out the politics and speak about your opinion man. Seriously.
> [{quoted}](name=Xalasmeni Banana,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3e2r1Iyw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T10:17:53.276+0000) > > Your post is too long and a tad too politicized. Not two people will agree on politics even if they come from the same ideological background (personally i believe all this trash labeling socialist, communist, whateverist is going to become obselete real soon). > > Just leave out the politics and speak about your opinion man. Seriously. I can honestly tell you I barely know anything about politics, I never watch tv, I never watch politics, couldn't tell you a single politcal candidate/member of my country don't know of any political words, by that I mean words like: leftist, republican, SJW, democrat, libertian, words like those, I've seen them, 0 clue what they mean, that's how low or near no nexistant my political knowledge is, so if there's too much politics in it I honestly didn't realise that as I never watch politics.
Rioter Comments
yeulx (NA)
: *Eternals related* Riots getting more greedy
they got greedy the moment they implemented the gambleboxes into the game and tied progression to it
: Hail of blades not a primary rune? *ap shen* gottem!
> [{quoted}](name=bluefire mark 2,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ddb4nOGb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T09:09:39.460+0000) > > Hail of blades not a primary rune? *ap shen* gottem! wait so does that mean after years they finally made it so hail of blades works with shen's Q?
: You know why people bring up winrates? Because you cant objectively balance a game based on if you "feel" something isn't fun. League is an esport, and you can't just be making balance changes unless you have a real reason for doing so. I personally really don't like Caitlyn or LeBlanc, but that doesn't mean they should be nerfed.
> [{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lYKEVehG,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-12T02:42:12.679+0000) > > You know why people bring up winrates? Because you cant objectively balance a game based on if you "feel" something isn't fun. League is an esport, and you can't just be making balance changes unless you have a real reason for doing so. > > I personally really don't like Caitlyn or LeBlanc, but that doesn't mean they should be nerfed. riot has nerfed and reworked champions purely because they weren't fun to play as/against
: unpopular opinion: i would rather have a permanent pve mode in the way of odyssey than TT
it's sad how everything now needs to have some sort of ''progression'' added to it, even in games like starcraft 2, got people saying ''well I reached max level no reason to play anymore'' is the concept of playing the game because it's fun such a foreign concept? do you really NEED some sort of progression to enjoy a game? if so then I suggest you cookie clicke,r infinite never ending progression.
: Invulnerable to any aa focused champions an invulnerable isnt the same my friend
> [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Airlines,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EOEvk31t,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-08-07T19:59:45.023+0000) > > Invulnerable to any aa focused champions an invulnerable isnt the same my friend unless you're a champion who's damage for the vast majority comes from autoattacks in which case it might as well be the same
Lugg (NA)
: Agreed. ALL hyper carries should have bad laning phases, that's the trade off. If you pick a hyper, you should expect to lose lane (unless you are versus another hyper) and just play to scale.
> [{quoted}](name=Lugg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=800EwBx5,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-07T17:35:31.715+0000) > > Agreed. ALL hyper carries should have bad laning phases, that's the trade off. If you pick a hyper, you should expect to lose lane (unless you are versus another hyper) and just play to scale. funny thing is pretty much all adc's are hyper carries come late game due to how much damage they can deal with right clicks and yet we see people yell in horror when a ADC gets beaten by some other class early game
: Galio was viable for like 2 whole years or something? How long have Jax and Lux been viable in the last 2 years? Come on, you're the biased one here.
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JVXoiX0n,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-08-06T21:29:12.059+0000) > > Galio was viable for like 2 whole years or something? How long have Jax and Lux been viable in the last 2 years? > > Come on, you're the biased one here. lux support has been viable and strong for years. I honestly can't think of a point in time where jax is weak, maybe not picked as much but by no means weak
cabbysb (NA)
: Katarina absolutely, positively, does not need a damage buff in ARAM
Katarina is either garbage or winning teamfights 1 vs 5, if you get unlucky and get a team with almost no CC, yeah no Katarina will reck your shit and you will lose, if you got allot of CC however she usually gets foderised
Cloud273 (NA)
: "Jax enters a defensive stance"
better question is why can jax attack while using his E? while using his E he is invulnerable to any AA focussed champions, yet such similar mechanic was removed for kayle, apparently her being able to attack while invulnerable in her ult wasn't fair, yet jax is doing the same
YOU NWAH (NA)
: > Overwatch popularized the lootbox system Team Fortress 2 actually. Hextech Crafting makes them money, but the point is that people who play without spending money benefit. I've had opportunities to own many epic skins for free. Some of them I crafted into permanents. They could find a way to make money while benefiting everyone else with Practice Mode. I don't think Blue Essence was a thing when Hextech Crafting rolled out either. I think the game still used IP at that point. Blue Essence, especially only getting it from disenchants, came later. It was not an initial fault.
> [{quoted}](name=YOU NWAH,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EyZAGjqf,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-06T21:21:29.787+0000) > > Team Fortress 2 actually. Hextech Crafting makes them money, but the point is that people who play without spending money benefit. I've had opportunities to own many epic skins for free. Some of them I crafted into permanents. They could find a way to make money while benefiting everyone else with Practice Mode. I don't think Blue Essence was a thing when Hextech Crafting rolled out either. I think the game still used IP at that point. Blue Essence, especially only getting it from disenchants, came later. It was not an initial fault. team fortress 2 had it for years it was only after Activision Blizzard released Overwatch with lootboxes that games started implementing a ton of lootboxes in their games. There's nothing stopping them from making chests not be purchasable with RP, they have been succesfull for years with the simple system of you pay X money you get Y skin, sure the new system gets some people free skins but should it really come at the cost of the lives of some people? since lootboxes are quite the real gambling addiction it can ruin people's lives. Practise mode should be a standard feature of a game, and if it doesn't have it it should be up th the developer to either put one in for free or not put it in at all, or are we fine with riot becoming even more greedy? if they were to reach the level of having to pay for a ''full'' practise mode they'd be on the level of nintendo where you have to pay money for more save slots in your game.
YOU NWAH (NA)
: Riot is willing to make "compromises". Years ago, people were suggesting IP purchases for skins. This was a ridiculous suggestion, but then years later, Hextech Crafting let you craft skins for free. What allowed them to do this was knowing they could compensate with crate and key sales — especially during events. Riot could do the same with Practice Mode. I'm not very imaginative, but they could make all champions available in Practice Mode, as a basic feature, and then charge maybe $5 for "Additional Practice Mode features" which would let you do things like swap champions without making a new lobby, trial skins, invite other players, record video, etc.
> [{quoted}](name=YOU NWAH,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EyZAGjqf,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-06T20:16:27.075+0000) > > Riot is willing to make "compromises". Years ago, people were suggesting IP purchases for skins. This was a ridiculous suggestion, but then years later, Hextech Crafting let you craft skins for free. What allowed them to do this was knowing they could compensate with crate and key sales — especially during events. > > Riot could do the same with Practice Mode. I'm not very imaginative, but they could make all champions available in Practice Mode, as a basic feature, and then charge maybe $5 for "Additional Practice Mode features" which would let you do things like swap champions without making a new lobby, trial skins, invite other players, record video, etc. haha, the lootboxes got put into the game to prey on whales and people with gambling addictions, nothing what the player base asked for or suggested went into this new system, the only reason it got implemented is because Overwatch popularized the lootbox system and riot saw how preying on gambling addicts can make you millions if not billions. And speaking as someone who has just such problems, I don't even earn any IP anymore, know why? because it's all limited to the gambleboxes now, and you can be damned sure if I have to open lootboxes in order to progress in this game I'm going to get hooked on them and start spending money, it's happened before.
: Is this a dream? Riven nerfs?
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hfYeKPXv,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-08-05T23:41:54.973+0000) > > Is this a dream? Riven nerfs? don't get too excited now, they considered the previous changes to her a ''nerf'' as well even though it made her basically stronger
mark6028 (EUW)
: Everyone hates non interactive point and click bullshit supports that "outplay" you by pressing polymorph and dropping a 600 strength shield+ardent.
> [{quoted}](name=mark6028,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Xw9VfRez,comment-id=00100001,timestamp=2019-08-05T12:10:23.495+0000) > > Everyone hates non interactive point and click bullshit supports that "outplay" you by pressing polymorph and dropping a 600 strength shield+ardent. know what else is non interactive? ADC right clicking, assassins killing you in 1 second or under and yet that is still in the game and riot apparently loves
: Pyke In ARAM Is Annoying Beyond Belief
also doesn't help you can't poke him down, he might as well have a built in warmogs
: I love League, I played it for 10 years. But you make me want to quit.
you know what I like? shield supports, you know what riot hates? shield supports, fuck me and my shielding life
afmghost (NA)
: Just in: Riot under fire for removal of bot preserve.
there are already a ton of bots in ARAM, untill you reach I wanna say summoners level 15 what ARAM basically is is which ever side has the least amount of bots win, seriously try taking new accounts into ARAM, you will frequently find yourself in matches with 8-9 bots
: Here's how I deal with Riven as Yorick -Don't fuck with her and farm under tower the whole Laning phase -Ask your jungler not to gank lane -Don't give her kills or else she'll ruin not only your Laning but also the entire game for your team -Once she gets bored and leaves lane to roam, you ward then pull out ghouls and destroy the tower as fast as possible I win everytime against her because by the time she comes back to top all the towers are destroyed
> [{quoted}](name=0cean Mann,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LAhecANk,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-03T18:41:45.472+0000) > > Here's how I deal with Riven as Yorick > > -Don't fuck with her and farm under tower the whole Laning phase > -Ask your jungler not to gank lane > -Don't give her kills or else she'll ruin not only your Laning but also the entire game for your team > -Once she gets bored and leaves lane to roam, you ward then pull out ghouls and destroy the tower as fast as possible > > I win everytime against her because by the time she comes back to top all the towers are destroyed so in other words, make laning so boring that you do not interact with the enemy at all turning it basically into a PVE, god that sounds boring
: Can we stop looking at TFT balance, and talk about how predatory buying Little Champs are?
sadly it actually is worth it because do you know what riot is hunting for when it comes to hextech gamble skins, 100 euro chroma skins and little legends? they're hunting for **whales** they're hunting for the people who spend hundreds if not THOUSANDS on a a single game in possibly a month time, they either got too much money to care or they can't resist their gambling addiction and fall victim to the gambling system that got put into this game
Mr Meat (OCE)
: Riot is being mismanaged.
sssshhhh...do you hear that sound? sounds like WHAAAAAAALES, that's what riot their goal is with all these gamble box skins and 100 euro chroma's, they're targetting the whales, so what if it pisses of players? whales can possibly spend hundreds if not THOUSANDS a month
hoganftw (NA)
: Dota 2 has Custom Maps/Game Modes
you could argue, and I would, that valve has an unholy amount of money to not care about the costs of it...but then we'd be ignoring smite which from what I know has DAILY rotating game modes
Sukishoo (NA)
: Dragon Oracle Udyr and Hextech Rammus incoming alongside Pantheon!
Zxall (NA)
: ARAM AFK Players
if an afk player gets replaced by a bot all the bot will do is feed the enemy gold, this game has worthless bots
: Think of it like this: Since this champ doesnt get bonus HP, his HP powerbudget is transfered onto his W. It needs to be strong to make up for his missing health pool. So when he has 100 hp left, it is equivalent to 200-300 hp for a "normal" champ. Im not saying he is balanced, fun or even fair to play against, but specifically this part of his kit seems fine. Edit: _ I have never said anything about the state of his armor or hp stats, just stating the fact his hp is fixed other than lvl growth. Maybe he needs some tuning here and there, but his grey health mechanic by itself seems fine to me._
> [{quoted}](name=RustyMachete,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=opEN1dxf,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-23T23:56:58.137+0000) > > Think of it like this: Since this champ doesnt get bonus HP, his HP powerbudget is transfered onto his W. It needs to be strong to make up for his missing health pool. So when he has 100 hp left, it is equivalent to 200-300 hp for a "normal" champ. > > Im not saying he is balanced, fun or even fair to play against, but specifically this part of his kit seems fine. oh no my assassin can't build HP, what a disastrous downside! at least I can still play my warmogs + randuins zed!
: Wtf is this Renekton buff
so we get shield duration nerfed with no compensation to shield strength and now we get a mechanic which just removes shields altogether, does riot just have a hate boner for shield supports?
: When did riot become so money hungry?
3 years ago when they put lootboxes into the game
: Can we get an option to not be matched with premade groups?
the reason you've ''only had negative experiences'' with premades is because good premades don't tell you they are premade and just go about their day and play the game
rujitra (NA)
: The shape of it is such that it’s very hard to aim and very easy to dodge. Pyke cannot gain more max health thus he remains one of the squishiest champions in the game who can be focused down at the beginning of a fight if you’re worried about him.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nu1bgyQk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T19:36:00.657+0000) > > The shape of it is such that it’s very hard to aim and very easy to dodge. > > Pyke cannot gain more max health thus he remains one of the squishiest champions in the game who can be focused down at the beginning of a fight if you’re worried about him. oh yeah that really sucks, normally I buy a ton of health items on my assassins but I can't on pyke, such a massive downside!
: Nerf Pyke
I see people saying him not being able to build health like it's a downside, since when do assassin's want to build health?
: > [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ebVMTwzp,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-12T06:16:25.418+0000) > > shocking, a bot can more easily catch someone being an asshole in chat than ingame behaviour, how outrageous! > > No but seriously do you not understand the simple logic that it is a million times more easy for a bit to see if someone is being an asshole in chat than it is for them to figure out if someone is griefing ingame? Do you understand the simple logic that someone calling you a dipshit in-game has infinitely less impact on the outcome of the game than someone intentionally ruining the game via running around griefing their team mates? The fact that so much time and effort went into punishing a harmless, yet annoying, behavior by completely rational human beings who're upset over shit happening in a competitive game designed to antagonize them instead of trying to weed out people who are ruining games left n' right because of some sense of self-entitlement is ripe with stupidity and bad decision-making. I've said it a billion times. I don't care if someone calls me a piece of shit in-game as long as they're trying to win. What I care about are people who are throwing games because they feel irked by something that's happened or said in the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Forge God Ornn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ebVMTwzp,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-12T07:49:36.981+0000) > > Do you understand the simple logic that someone calling you a dipshit in-game has infinitely less impact on the outcome of the game than someone intentionally ruining the game via running around griefing their team mates? > > The fact that so much time and effort went into punishing a harmless, yet annoying, behavior by completely rational human beings who're upset over shit happening in a competitive game designed to antagonize them instead of trying to weed out people who are ruining games left n' right because of some sense of self-entitlement is ripe with stupidity and bad decision-making. > > I've said it a billion times. I don't care if someone calls me a piece of shit in-game as long as they're trying to win. What I care about are people who are throwing games because they feel irked by something that's happened or said in the game. Do you not graps the simple fact that B being worse then A does not make A ok to do? just because one is worse than the other doesn't mean both shouldn't be punished. So you don't care, good for you, just so happens not the entire world is like you and others do care and to others flaming is enough to make them lose the game or at the very minimum ruin the experience.
: Shocker, another griefer not getting banned because he didn't call me an asshole in chat.
shocking, a bot can more easily catch someone being an asshole in chat than ingame behaviour, how outrageous! No but seriously do you not understand the simple logic that it is a million times more easy for a bit to see if someone is being an asshole in chat than it is for them to figure out if someone is griefing ingame?
: Hextechboxes are losing you money RIOT cuz I'm smart now
LeoiJw (NA)
: Hey Riot, why isn't there a"Select #" option for redeeming tokens? Why the unnecessary repetition?
The most likely reason is that they purposely don't implement such a feature so that you won't go through the trouble of convertign them all to BE, afterall the less BE someone has the more likely they are to spend money on somethng they want.
DalekZec (EUNE)
: I can't blame people being toxic anymore
Been playing since 2009, never been toxic, flamed or trolled, got 0 warnings and 0 bans, if you get ''toxic'' from playing that's on you
: Skill also has nothing to do with the difference between assassin and diver. The difference is literally just that divers get to be tankier, have leftover DPS after their burst, and have weak or no escape. Diana matches this exactly - Her W makes her surprisingly tanky, her passive gives her decent DPS, and she has no real escape outside of running like hell. Those are the exact traits of a diver. Skill has nothing to do with this. It's all based on what their kits have. It doesn't matter if their kit is simpler than Udyr's or more complex than 10 Rivens put together.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Iuei0FjR,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-08T05:47:54.266+0000) > > Skill also has nothing to do with the difference between assassin and diver. > > The difference is literally just that divers get to be tankier, have leftover DPS after their burst, and have weak or no escape. Diana matches this exactly - Her W makes her surprisingly tanky, her passive gives her decent DPS, and she has no real escape outside of running like hell. Those are the exact traits of a diver. > > Skill has nothing to do with this. It's all based on what their kits have. It doesn't matter if their kit is simpler than Udyr's or more complex than 10 Rivens put together. guess we'll call rengar a diver as well then
: BOTS in Aram are back ??
Back? Back? when did they ever go away, you just notice them less as your summoner level gets higher as the game probably starts matching bots with bots
HàrrowR (EUW)
: People still complain about ADCs?
ADC's will always remain a problem so long as crit is in the game, no one likes being right clicked by a fed/late game ADC and in dying in 1 or 2 seconds. Everyone always goes on about lack of counterplay but the only counterplay to an ADC is to kill them before they can even attack you or play jax who can dodge autoattacks
Aamano (NA)
: does anyone else miss Banner of Command?
it was an unfair item though, if you use banner of command vs an ADC/AD champions it wouldn't do anything, if you use it vs a mage they can stand there for a minute very slowly autoattacking the buffed minion to death as it was immune to magic damage
: You can't compare item RNG to cardgames like Magic or Hearthstone...
you see the thing is from what I've read in TFT you can lose simply because the enemy gets more items early on, so pure RNG factor In hearthstone you can lose simply because the other players draws better, also pure RNG factor you could say it's the same, getting items is like drawing card, both players get the same amount of card sure but RNG still decides it, there have been tournament hearthstone games won and lost purely based off of not only drawn card rng but rng from the card effect itself as well
: Yeah? Bcs they are stupid and uninteractive?
> [{quoted}](name=DGAGAAsharpAGD,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KMEBQgVE,comment-id=001c0000,timestamp=2019-07-02T06:17:52.341+0000) > > Yeah? Bcs they are stupid and uninteractive? lots of things are stupid uninteractive because there's no way around it, assassin's instant burst, ADC's right clicking you to death, but at the end of the day it's still in the game
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: 9.14 changes according to Riot Repertoir (Blitzcrank, Leona, Akali, Lux, Tahm kench)
so we gets the strength of shields nerfed, we get the duration of shields significantly nerfed and now we are getting even more champions that just flat out remove shield, does riot just absolutely hate shield supports with a passion?
Mártir (EUW)
: So Qiyana cant get her Water element at all, in 3v3 mode.
ZaFishbone (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PjxhEUwL,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-27T15:54:37.946+0000) > > years ago on EU you could have to wait upwards of a day in order to even just login to the game and it took riot years before they did anything about so going by past experiences it seems unlikely riot will do anything any time soon I've been playing since the end of season 2 and I don't remember that. WHEN was this?
> [{quoted}](name=ZaFishbone,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PjxhEUwL,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T07:44:06.906+0000) > > I've been playing since the end of season 2 and I don't remember that. WHEN was this? 2011-2014, first it was EU servers having long login times and then after the split it was EUW having long login times
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