: > [{quoted}](name=Rester,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jBzYTs3z,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-11T02:56:01.311+0000) > > Personally I'd prefer if it did physical damage instead of true damage, just like how Kog's tank shred is tied to magic damage. Kog’s % damage is also not limited to auto attacking a target 3 times before it comes into effect and can be proc’d in an AoE with Hurricane. While it does have a cooldown, he is also granted extreme auto range. Not to mention Rageblade Kog will do 18% max HP magic damage every 2 shots vs Rageblade Vayne’s 14% true damage every 2 shots, but with the luxury of being able to use Hurricane. Vayne’s true damage is already gated by the fact it’s single target and a 3 hit passive.
But do you know what Kog is limited to though? Standing still. Unless he has {{champion:117}} or {{champion:40}} by his side, {{champion:107}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:84}} are gonna come in and say hello.
: Some classes of champions cannot afford to spare the gold or the item slots for protection against assassins. And, instead, rely on their allies to offer protection. Unfortunately, Riot has toned defense down drastically to the point that even if you build protection against assassins who can and do ignore large quantities of resistances and health through mixed damage, true damage, %health damage, armor penetration, magic penetration, lethality, and %penetration that even a fully built tank may last as long as 2-3 seconds AT MOST against them. The OP's post remains valid. In the past, your advice would have proven effective. In the past, champions who killed any other champion in 0.5 seconds was an immediate target for nerfs so as to provide balance. Nowadays it has become the standard by which RIot continues to churn out monsters with neither explanation nor apology.
Those are nostalgia goggles you're wearing mate. In the past, being obliterated in less than a second didn't result in nerfs at all. {{champion:107}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:92}} have all been capable of 100 -> 0 champions at some point during their existance, and it took a long time for them to receive any relevant nerfs. I am talking release Diana Season 3-4 Riven Season 3 Kassadin (reworked in (mid?)season 4) Release Rengar And Rengar can still delete someone in the blink of an eye 6 years after release.
Moody P (NA)
: Wrong on every count. Riven controls the tempo of the lane
What an excellent counterargument.
: Outplays THEN vs outplays NOW
The only argument I've seen people make when they go "outplays were so much better back in the day" are them linking this same old Faker outplay. We know it's good, but if you want to convince people of your point, at least add some different clips instead of using Zed's Faker again and again. Miss Xpeke
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j8hYulc5,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-07T23:38:12.705+0000) > > Buffing ADC's damage because a tank does too much damage is moronic. > > Fighting fire with fire needs to stop, as this balance philosophy has tossed the game down the shitter in the past years. > > Not gonna lie, that clip is worrisome. OP tries to justify it with some bullshit escuses, but to be honest it falls shorts. > > Years past Alistar top used to build triforce and IE, and he didn't do that much more damage than this one. > > Damage is out of control, especially because it is coming from too many external sources (runes and items). This is especially aggravating when that extra damage is slapped onto kits that are not supposed to have damage at all. ^This is 100% true. Alistar only won the fight because ALL damage in the game is out of control and the ADC died before even getting a chance to fight back. Right before Jhin died he managed to pretty much half-health the Alistar with a single auto. Time for one or two more autos and he wins that fight. A fight with a fricking tank should not be determined by who bursts who first.
Okay, please for a second here, let's just be clear what exactly is burst? Because the way I see it, 9 seconds isn't bursting someone. Jhin lost that fight because he got hard countered, not because he was bursted. He didn't have {{summoner:4}} {{summoner:7}} up, merely 11% lifesteal vs an Alistar with ult on and no defensive stats. According to Dcap, he took 338 damage from other champions and started the fight with 1300 health, meaning he had 992 health vs Alistar. I don't see how taking a champion's full rotation twice, {{item:3050}} and {{summoner:14}} over 9 seconds is unfair, or a form of burst. Swap out {{champion:202}} for {{champion:81}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:67}} in this situation and Alistar would have lost brutally. Jhin was countered.
Poske (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Blåbæret,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mYxokdX0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-12-07T03:31:34.527+0000) > > Which is very sad. When uniqueness becomes a detriment to the nine other people playing the game, that uniqueness is not worth preserving. And how is his uniqueness detriment to the nine other people XD? Also funny how you got stomped by Yasuo and posted this right after
Because Yasuo's uniqueness is to int the fuck out of the game and still be relevant
Neamean (NA)
: {{champion:8}} this guys was the reason for it.
So was this guy {{champion:50}}
: > [{quoted}](name=UVM ZhaoRiTian,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ePGENAA1,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-02T19:18:27.825+0000) > > _<Removed>_ I'm a guy lol
DaisyLazy (EUW)
: Akali's real age
"She left the Kinkou Order between her 17th and 19th year" You mean 18?
: > [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Y9UyER3H,comment-id=0048000200000002,timestamp=2018-12-01T10:20:53.770+0000) > > I don&#x27;t know this person and I have too much free time. > > &quot;cHeCkMaTe AtHeIsTs wE gOtTeM&quot; you can do better than that. "These people agree, it MUST be one person making four different accounts and leveling them up 50+ times to downvote me!" We're getting downvoted too, does that mean kat is ALSO running three different accounts? {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
These are the LoL boards, you won't find people having discussions here. It's about whoever can scream the loudest, like the chimpanzees. Posts on the front page are the majority of the time a unified group that go together and spam upvote on their post, and then others will follow because it has a high upvote count. Discord servers do it, subreddits do it and other communities do it. It's nothing new and it'll never change. Unless you have an equally large group, you'll be drowned by the supports and your discussion will never see daylight. Like the time the Rengar subreddit wanted a revert, so they made a megathread on the boards and caught Riot Repertoir's attention, which ultimately lead to the rework they wanted.
: Some thoughts on more dated female champions, from a girl
This is actually a really good and intelligent post, though I must confess that I can't support it fully. I definitely know the feeling of being able to relate to a champion, and female players should have that feeling as well, but in the case of some champions, like Nidalee, I think that feeling is reserved for the "general" woman and having a sexual theme is fine. Just like how I can't relate to {{champion:245}} in any way, there are other people that do, and among them there are women that play him because they find him hot (talking from experience). It's the same reason why I'd play someone like Nidalee. Nidalee is a wild huntress, she acts on instinct, so the whole 'in heat' and skinny clothing suits her, and when I play her it feels natural. Other than that, I agree with you, more female champions that female players can relate to is a welcome change.
: He wouldn't be the only jungler in the game who doesn't have a fast way to get onto the enemy laner when ganking…. He can also utilize his empowered and base e to slow/cc the enemy.... If this change was made people would still definitely play rengar since his strengths come from fighting in areas with easier bush access anyway. Its not like it will change his 1 shot from jumping out of his ult potential
What do you mean he can utilize his empowered E, if he doesn't get the jump off he won't generate 4 stacks of ferocity.
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Zouldator,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=npNMoJxw,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2018-11-29T21:53:08.758+0000) > > Removing that would completely change Rengar&#x27;s gameplay flow. So rework entirely this overbroken champ. Because he actually actually jump right to the mid lane from any side of mid lane bushes it's fking insane.
Go play Rengar jungle for a single game, and then come back and tell us what you just said is true.
: My question is why doesn't his leap passive have a cooldown??? It would fit his aesthetic 100x more if 1. he couldn't leap to the people ALREADY IN THE BUSH WITH HIM, 2. He has to be unseen, and 3. He couldn't leap while outside of the bush. Like either have him meet all those requirements or give it a cooldown. I'm sick of Rengar not even once using the bush passive to actually kill anyone from surpise like the sneaky cat he is. He literally just goes and ganks bot and while everyone knows he's in the bush, and while everyone knows he's going to leap, and while everyone knows he's not being sneaky at all, he just flash jumps on you. Like stop ):<
Yes, and let's make Rengar like his release state where he'd go insta invis with ult and give 0 warnings to the enemy team. What a great design.
DankSan (NA)
: Rengar should not be able to leap AFTER LEAVING A BUSH
You guys will complain about anything The effect lasts for 0.25 seconds after leaving a bush. This means that Rengar with 400 ms can off-set his range by 100, mind you that range isn't given instantly, but over 0.25 seconds. If you can't meassure an additional 100 units, which is less than the range of a melee AA, then you deserve to be pounced on.
acrid56 (NA)
: The problem with karthus is that as an enemy, he feels so unsatisfying. It sucks to outplay someone, only to have karthus kill you shortly after. This is true especially early game, where you dont always have zhonyas.
But that is the only part that sucks about Karthus, but likewise it must suck for Karthus to think you finish someone off, but then {{item:3814}} {{item:3157}} happens. Fighting Karthus in actual combat is a decent experience. You can dodge his Q pretty easily, and if you don't you take a fair about of punishment for it, but you can't just dodge his Q forever since his E will wittle you down if you take too long to deal with him.
Rioter Comments
drash79 (NA)
: I can Honest to god confirm that the washer machine is Rengar main {{champion:107}}: tonight we..... WASH!
> [{quoted}](name=drash79,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5WEjxl7Y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-21T06:14:54.949+0000) > > I can Honest to god confirm that the washer machine is Rengar main > > {{champion:107}}: tonight we..... WASH! {{champion:107}}: LEAVE ONLY A TRAIL OF CLOTHES!
Rioter Comments
: I'm here waiting for internet rules to apply.
How do you know it hasn't applied this entire time, but Neeko has just been transformed?
: [Finally.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/nqNe70bx-now-that-weve-seen-how-tricksters-glass-works-in-game-can-we-have-a-champion-based-on-it) I really hope this is the case. I've wanted a champion that utilizes subterfuge through a more strategic application (positioning, vision, timing) rather than tactical (mechanical skill). Reworked Leblanc was a nice attempt, and Trickter's Glass did a lot to introduce the concept of imitation to League's game from a technical (coding) and practical (how people actually use the mechanic) standpoint.
: I like how riot hq isn't on fire after the akali rework, the one that needed 17 nerfs and still is dominant in solo queue. God bless our firefighters.
I know people don't like truth but... https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/akali/all
: Orange Essence needs to be buffed
This comment section makes me lose faith in people
: Ye i honestly do not know why people want kat buffs. I constantly keep telling "some" users who keep hijacking any assassin thread and turning it into a "plz buff kat" thread. It is genuinely sickening at this point. They think that taking off CAST TIME of an ability is QoL... that buffing CD and slight damage is QoL.... I really hope no one takes them seriously at this point. Some kat players right now are genuinely worse than shaco mains, like let's be honest.
Seems to be the case for... every *insert group of mains here* ever. The {{champion:107}} community received heavy backlash as well when they made the board's first megathread.
: this is incredible! I did not know that this was a voice line. This needs to happen, NOW!
> [{quoted}](name=Marshbouy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=5EFXAgTX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-12T01:04:46.309+0000) > > this is incredible! I did not know that this was a voice line. This needs to happen, NOW! Or make KaraoKayn a reality!
Rioter Comments
: Ok which one of you broke into Riot HQ?
: It's an interesting psychological paradigm here, but the fear of being 'in the minority' leads to people trending towards staying completely out of discussions rather than stepping into them and being ganged up on by the people agreeing with it. As a result, once a thread starts to get popular, dissenting voices stay away OR start their own thread in the hopes they can get people who agree to 'hivemind' with them. This leads to threads not often having a lot of dissenting discussion and a lot of hive-mind threads.
How does one fix this though? Removing the ability to upvote and downvote could be a way of doing it, but I doubt people would want to give up their ability to smite non-believers {{champion:86}} .
weavıle (EUW)
: K/DA Akali updated!
: Ezreal and Kai'sa only go bot lane. IDK why they're in there. Graves can literally not function bot lane anymore because of his AA's and people have been crying for him to get a nerf since the day he became a jungler.
The point was that saying only bruisers get to have diversity is a lie. ADC champs break out of bot lane multiple times, whether it be jungle {{champion:81}}, jungle {{champion:145}}, jungle {{champion:104}}, mid lane {{champion:42}} or mid lane {{champion:110}}. I also have this feeling that when people say bruisers, they mean {{champion:39}}
: To All Of The Recent Ban Recipients
I need a positive person like this in my life
: Role diversity is only important if you play bruisers. Everyone else has to be in their designated lanes. That's what I've learned during this entire push for lane diversity. I mean why else would Viktor top be getting nerfed. :/ how dare a champion find a success outside his designated lane
{{champion:81}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:104}}
Ðïana (NA)
: While it would've been amazing(And I honestly expected a Solar/Lunar eclipse Vs event next year when they work on Diana/Leo), we're getting what we're getting. Not gonna change at this point. Best hope now is to plead for Diana to one day get it IN ADDITION to the current Leona ones. Side Note - (Pre-Lunari) Solari Diana please.
The thing is that there's no point in making a VS event. Diana and Leona are not enemies, infact Leona wants to cooperate with Diana because solar and lunar are two sides of the same coin. I still want to see a Solar Eclipse Diana skin, but making it into a VS event won't make sense.
Zeanix (OCE)
: Eclipse Leona should’ve been used as a VS event
Leona and Diana aren't enemies though. Infact, Leona wants to seek out Diana for cooperation.
: Guinsoo's Rageblade now grants Armor & Magic Penetration
**Stop posting only half the changes!** It lost its AD+AP scaling and no longer grants AP or AD
saltran (EUW)
: If you say that Akali is the best designed assasin except for her W you are saying that she's not the best designed assasin. Because her W is her identity and they will never remove it, maybe nerf it but overall she will be balanced around her W.
: exactly. that's the feast or famine playstyle. way better than focusing early on not letting a specific champion get fed and them still being useful. if an assassin gets behind, they should have to work hard to get back.
That's the fantasy we want to have, but feast or famine is true for any pure damage oriented champions, like ADC, but it's usually either feast or famine, with nothing inbetween. Overbuff an assassin and he becomes feast even if he's behind {{champion:238}} Nerf them a bit and they cross into being famine for most of the game {{champion:35}}
: > catching someone that's out of position for one quarter of a second imo that's what Assassins should be about tho. punishing even the slightest mispositioning, and quickly Assassinating their targets. A champion that just hides in her stupid no counterplay cloud and goes in and out of it all the time is just BS and not even really Assassin'y on top of that. Her whole gameplay pattern definitely isn't fair simply because of how many rules her W breaks. It doesn't even cost energy, but even gives some back.
Imo that's a VERY narrow way of seeing assassins. Assassins don't HAVE to be insta gippers. Infact, an assassin can provide so much more to a team than just burst damage. Unique assassin traits are distruption through vision {{champion:56}}, CC and setups {{champion:555}} or pressure that forces the enemies to take their eyes off of your team or be punished for it {{champion:84}}. Of course every assassin should be rewarded for catching someone out of position, but if that's the only thing they provide, they become champions that are either relevant by being so overtuned that no defence in the game can counter them, or they won't burst hard enough to be of any relevance to a team. Usually this is the case for {{champion:121}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:55}} etc.
: Scuttles HATE Him, See how Kled Jungle could be meta with just one change
Didn't Riot remove courage gain from jungle mobs because they didn't want him to be a jungler?
: I wouldn't say her W breaks the rules of the game. Normal sight can't see through normal stealth; it only makes sense true sight can't see through true stealth. But it is an exception to a previously exceptionless rule, so it does feel wrong in a way. But just imagine Akali with normal stealth. The healthy kill pattern you described wouldn't be possible if simply picking ignite or a champion like Morgana would completely remove the safety of her W. Without the safety of her W she would need faster kill times to function, especially in late game. And then we'd just have another "catch someone out of position for one quarter second" champion.
Not exactly true. True sight reveals true invisibility, {{champion:121}} ult for an example, and camouflage can be revealed by normal sight, though with a range condition. Sight granting abilities like {{summoner:14}} doesn't break through neither. Obscurity on the other hand, is an entirely new category of stealth, which is just even better than true invisibility, as it just ignores all forms of reveal (even towers). The issue about adding 'true sight' and 'true invisibility' is that one of them lies and have to surrender. It's the unstoppable force vs the immoveable object concept. At the very least I don't think it should ignore tower aggro.
Rioter Comments
: You can still dodge it, have you never dodged things with longer slows? You've never dodged, lux's q after she slows you with her e? It makes it easier but it doesnt mean you cant dodge it. Honestly I dont agree with op at all nor does duskblade make him any easier now after constantly being nerfed. Zed isnt graceful for new players, compared to other champions, just because he has a last hitting mechanic doesnt mean he is any easier.
Sure I have dodged CC while slowed before, but the difference between your Lux example and Zed slowing you with Duskblade, is that Lux doesn't fire it at you from point blank range. If I received a 0,25 sec slow from 700 units away, I could probably still dodge, but in melee range it's a different scenario entirely.
: How long is it? Oh right .25 seconds, not that hard to side step man.
With an almost equal long cast time and then you gotta move your hitbox enough to not be hit by a shuriken width.
: Zed's a high skill ceiling champ, but I feel his kit is graceful for bad players.
{{item:3147}} 99% slow into guaranteed shurikens is what's putting his skill floor low atm. Also the overbuff he received
: > [{quoted}](name=Kelg,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0X0vljiX,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-11-03T13:55:31.491+0000) > > {{champion:79}} {{champion:6}}
> [{quoted}](name=SSJMike,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0X0vljiX,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-03T17:53:32.797+0000) > > {{champion:6}} {{champion:3}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Jaspers,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6UX1cMIF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-03T19:00:45.274+0000) > > &quot;Evelynn is very mysterious about her **diet **and workouts and usually declines to comment on her routine.&quot; > > She eats them? A girl has to eat
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Limrick (NA)
: Yeah that's great and all, but her waveclear is already bad, the problem is she does too much damage to champions for her amount of safety. Her waveclear being slightly worse when it's already not good isn't changing the fact that she is far too safe and does far too much damage.
You are right, but at the same time if they make her wave clear worse, then that means she can't shove the lane as hard, and therefore can't roam as much, which will make her snowball potential worse.
: I didn't say he was stupid. I said he's a coward. Don't use google to counter my points. It's like you're looking up the definitions, written down by other people because you can't come up with an explanation yourself. An AI didn't create these nor did God. As for the second part, that is like saying "How is X champion not restricting you? They kill you and you're dead. Totally broken!" I don't want to talk to you. Seriously. Goodbye.
Now this is some top notch irony. I don't recall saying you ever said any champion was stupid. Besides, linking you the definition of a word from a dictionary is called a "source" and is not because I can't explain the word to you myself :) Sources are often more effective than simply coming up with words yourself, or in some cases people would even refer to them as "facts" rather than opinions. And you are totally right my friend; claiming that a champion restricts your gameplay, because they can outrange you, and maintain that gap between you with a knockback and high movement speed, is exactly like saying somebody restricts you because they kill you and you're dead. What an excellent comparison.
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