: The problems with balance team is deeper than just some bad decisions, is actually
volibear is good against tanks? what? i mean his not good against anything but he has never really been good against tanks more of a squishy buster really.
: Why you should never consider the match to be over until it's actually over, in one image.
TL;DR: something happened in a extremely low elo normal game therefore you should do this hehexd
: I know asking for Ahri buffs is goddamn near blasphemous on the boards but...
make her w prioritize charmed targets and give it -20% damage against uncharmed targets while giving it +10% damage against recently charmed targets ... now wouldn't that be nice?
: Nice to see the hatred for Riven spewed all over here is alive and well. But it's not about Riven or her win rate. It's about the state of the game, knowing who's going to win 8 min in, top lane having no impact, and the vast majority of top laners stuck dealing with Klepto Nasus, Gangplank, Teemo and Kayle while bot lane and jungle decides who wins.
saying riven isn't horrible = spewing hatred :thinking: oh you are a riven main? well of course then any time anyone mentions riven without claiming she needs buffs is a crybaby hating on her. seriously though i don't see a single post here that could be considered hatred by anyone with a brain
: I've read it and it doesn't matter what they identify themselves as. They're omniscient beings without any other substance than an old tale. Hypothetically, their existence would be pretty questionable in Runeterra, and 'Lamb' obviously isn't obviously an actual Lamb just like the Wolf is a disembodied floating head. She only resembles one through grace much like Wolf resembles viciousness.
it doesn't matter what they identify as? you sexist white cis male
: Technically, the Kindred don't identify as anything. They're just a being. And i never implied that i'm a furry. I only said her rear end is by far 'thiccer' by my standards than FB Irelia's. You better calm down, buddy.
i think its hilarious that you think that my comment implies i was upset
Bârd (NA)
: Zoe counters
TL;DR every champion counters the most broken shit in the game hehexd
: Scarra's Thoughts on Reddit (and Boards by extent) Balance
yeah there are a lot of bs champions that people complain about cause they can't bother learning how to play but playing against shit like gnar, pantheon, jayce, yasuo is aids even when you know how to play against them and do so properly.
: Can Amumu have 1 more base health?
ok sure but why would you build that on amumu?
Rismosch (EUW)
: ***
but you can literally win ai games even when your whole team is passed out drunk ...
: "There is so much ** that needs nerfs I can't believe they didn't nerf anything"
honestly don't think brand will become broken considering how shit he is / was before the patch
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ibxBiiqV,comment-id=000200010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-13T05:43:42.850+0000) > > sorry for assuming that the reward i was promised for bringing 100s of customers to riot would be a reward So you didn't do it to support the company, bring people into the game you liked, show people how much fun they could have while playing it, you did it for the reward, yup, totally not entitled. >for doing so rather than something everyone else gets without doing jack shit and me getting nothing for doing what they are doing :^) i'm so very entitled you are completely right. You don't get it for nothing though, you get it for being an honorable team player enough to get you rank 5 honor. > the part of you going "everyone should get what you got for 10x less work aka i want free shit hehexd" also makes me really entitled and a complete asshole. When did I say I want or care about this skin? I don't care about the skin, never going to likely play either of those champions.
so uhhh ... doing something for something you are promised in exchange of doing it is ... entitled? i don't even know if you are trolling at this point or just don't understand how the world works.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ibxBiiqV,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2018-01-12T23:50:48.568+0000) > > i don't think you understand - when you or anyone else reaches level 5 honor they get a skin reward, if i reach level 5 honor i get nothing because i helped out the game back in the day. not giving someone something in it self isn't a punishment but giving everyone something and leaving a few people out is a punishment. Not really, because you aren't losing out on anything. Definition of punishment: the infliction or imposition of a penalty as retribution for an offense. You didn't do anything negative, you aren't being given a penalty. If you think you should get something new or compensation that is fair, but whining that you are being punished because other people are getting what you get makes you sound entitled as fuck.
sorry for assuming that the reward i was promised for bringing 100s of customers to riot would be a reward for doing so rather than something everyone else gets without doing jack shit and me getting nothing for doing what they are doing :^) i'm so very entitled you are completely right. the part of you going "everyone should get what you got for 10x less work aka i want free shit hehexd" also makes me really entitled and a complete asshole.
: Riot's own stats back that up dude.
riot's stats on this are retarded, + you aren't more likely to lose games where there is flame there's just more likely to be flame in games that are lost.
: a tank with 3000 HP and 200 MR only takes 2089 damage in the end, assuming maximum penetration and lumping in the % current hp with the % max hp because i don't feel like calculating that out.
the highest magic resist of all champions is 53, no one builds 3 mr items to have 200 MR.
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ibxBiiqV,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2018-01-12T23:28:55.093+0000) > > i'm on the side of the fence that i shouldn't be punished for helping the game out back in the day, not only do people get what i have 10x easier now but i also don't get a reward for reaching honor 5 at all. How are you being punished, the skin isn't being taken away from you. That would be like complaining the fancy car you got back in the day has less value now because they re release it. > what's your argument for nor giving the people who helped the game nothing at all though? are you on the side of a fence "i don't lose out on anything so idgaf hehexd" or the "fuck everyone else i get free shit"? I'm on the side of the fence that gives people a chance to get something they have no chance to get. No, I didn't have those skins, however, I have been on this side of the fence before with some of the early halloween skins. I was one of the people advocating for them to return each halloween even though I bought one back when I thought they were limited. You are saying how is it fair to punish you, I ask how is it fair to punish others?
i don't think you understand - when you or anyone else reaches level 5 honor they get a skin reward, if i reach level 5 honor i get nothing because i helped out the game back in the day. not giving someone something in it self isn't a punishment but giving everyone something and leaving a few people out is a punishment.
Naalith (NA)
: SJW =/= playing the game without being an asshole. You can literally say nothing for the entirety of the season and you'll still get the skin, if you so desire.
well yeah that's true, you can even get plenty of honors being a toxic fuck like my self
Jamaree (NA)
: I ask this every single time and have yet to get an answer besides "So I can lord it over people and show how much better I am then them." or "So I can sell my account for more money later." Which side of the fence are you on?
i'm on the side of the fence that i shouldn't be punished for helping the game out back in the day, not only do people get what i have 10x easier now but i also don't get a reward for reaching honor 5 at all. what's your argument for nor giving the people who helped the game nothing at all though? are you on the side of a fence "i don't lose out on anything so idgaf hehexd" or the "fuck everyone else i get free shit"?
: It only takes one to completely trash a game. I have no idea what the scaling is like, but from unraked to your first placement, you're assumed somewhere in middle Silver and go up or down from there. If OPGG's MMR estimation is to be trusted, I won 4/10 placements, meaning I started, say S3, went up to S2 for a few games, had a massive losing streak down to S5, won one, and lost my last 2, to end up in B1. Roughly half of those losses were filled with trolling, flaming, or leaving. No, I am not even sort of exaggerating. It was rough. The only reason I've been playing almost all normals from then on out is the difficulty of supporting when the people at that level have very little team sense/map awareness, and the aforementioned tox. If not for the fact it was ban bait, I'd buy an account in middle Gold. I bet I could maintain that rank.
the fact you consider flaming a factor to losing games tells me you can't be very good at the game tbh
Rioter Comments
: Nah, he could kill a full tank with one round of abilities back with it. Now days he needs to press E and W at least one or two more times to kill a full tank.
a malza combo does 2209 + 45% max health + 14~% of current health, well i guess something like a seju with passive active or ww that gets comboed while his E is active can survive that but that's about it.
: Or have a chain of matches with trolls in them during your placements.
you can still carry those pretty easily tbh famalam, + the chance of you getting trolls in 7 ish games a row is astronomically low.
: And it allowed Malzahar to kill _literally_ anyone with one combo
so the same as now right?
: 4th option: you realize that normals have less shitty people in them and dealing with the overwhelming ranked tox isn't worth a loading screen border and a skin months later
i mean this would be an argument for being unranked but you quite literally have to chimp out to be placed in bronze
Lyricael (EUW)
: Honest Opinion from a High elo Toplaner
Cunky (NA)
: A champion's counterplay shouldn't be the person playing them being stupid
NoLifer2000 (EUNE)
: Brand. He needs some changes.
give him armor so i can actually lane bottom with him without getting aids
Rioter Comments
S92nB (EUW)
: Sorry what? CC Immunity is not skill expression it is quite the opposite. Now the player has to be more careful when using his w because he can be punished for it. Removing his CC immunity will make him harder
eh being able to block CC adds skill and outplay potential into the champions kit while being able to be interrupted by CC adds counterplay.
: because they cannot stand the fact that certainlyt was able to do a good rework, so they have to create rumors about that certainlyt was not under any suppression or restrictment, but he was forced to keep warwick extremely easy to play instead of making him mechanically complex, and this is what he said when he reworked him also, he never said that he hated the rework
well he did say he didn't enjoy the rework as it limited his creativity
: You effectively forced nidalee and elise from toplane into the jungle because of playstyle
remove gnar and jayce from the game and i can play top lane again
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=d8HcNeyO,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-01-03T19:07:41.120+0000) > > "Kog'Maw fares pretty well against enemies when he can auto attack so we figured it would be good for his state if he could auto attack more so he can now auto attack while dead." > > memes aside i'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to happen. It's a bug that sometimes occurs but it always seems to only deal the base damage on his autos and not any of the ad he built or on hits.
nah it deals normal damage and you can actually reproduce the bug every time you die if you put some practice into it
: Isn't this related to the basicattacking while resurrecting from Hellbent/GA bug? That also happens that you basic attack in the resurection state.
if that's the case i have just learned how to get a free auto in when i build ga
Mimr (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9srwILEU,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-03T04:47:05.295+0000) > > the average game lenght after diamond is the same for masters and challenger so pretty much 25 minutes and baron is actually taken more often in high elo games than in low elo games despite the slightly shoter games. Well, currently the meta is KILLKILLKILL. Get a small lead, snowball off of that because damage is overtuned, then activate full freight train mode to crush the opponents' base in one fell swoop. Well, yes, objectives do matter, but not in the right way. - Earth and water dragon are almost irrelevant because winning through methodically gaining small advantages/ sustained siege and attrition is not viable. - Blue only matters in the first 5 minutes of the game. Beyond 2nd blue it might as well not exist for about 90% of the champion roster. - Baron is now routinely taken at <25 minutes while that should be a massively risky proposition because teams should lack the raw dps to down it quickly enough for the other team not to notice combined with the still relatively short death timers at that point in the game. Taking Baron that easily that early in the game should only be realistically feasible if you have at least 2 earth dragons IMO. - Rift Herald is too strong. I like the concept of an earlygame toplane objective but it probably should give some different and less powerful bonus. - Smart wave/ lane management is greatly reduced in value once you get a kill advantage because having a kill advantage is too impactful.
xding intensifies, you have a point on why SR is in a shitty state right now but all of the things still require strategy. the part about earth, water dragons and blue buff are just bullshit though.
: That one auto did maybe 50 damage to you.
actually i was the kog and i was ap but that's besides the point
Rioter Comments
Lakega (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9srwILEU,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-01-02T20:53:57.320+0000) > > i&#x27;d very much like to see someone that&#x27;s actually good at the game claim this so i could take it a little bit more seriously. > > let me get this straight, a game with 4 objectives requires more strategy than a game with 17 main objectives, multiple more smaller objectives, lane control, pathing choices, lane matchup choices ... well i could go on with this list forever. Why you can't think for yourself? need your high elo masters to think for you?
Divewing (OCE)
: Actually if anything it's MORE relevant in low elo. The higher you go, the shorter games. Challenger are <20 mins. Thats baron as an objective COMPLETELY removed. So yeah, it's pretty irrelevant
the average game lenght after diamond is the same for masters and challenger so pretty much 25 minutes and baron is actually taken more often in high elo games than in low elo games despite the slightly shoter games.
Divewing (OCE)
: Right now? Yes, because 1/2 of the shit you've listed is made borderline irrelevant by "Teh Meta"
it's not irrelevant it's irrelevant in low elo
: At a general level, it does. Up until competitive play, everything on Rift can be done on a flowchart. However, because kills really don't mean shit on Ascension and it damn near encourages TDMing because of the nature of the gamemode, and it requires a lot more on-the-fly thinking. However, this may be the result of it not being a solved gamemode as it isn't hosted daily.
i'd very much like to see someone that's actually good at the game claim this so i could take it a little bit more seriously. let me get this straight, a game with 4 objectives requires more strategy than a game with 17 main objectives, multiple more smaller objectives, lane control, pathing choices, lane matchup choices ... well i could go on with this list forever.
: I Think Ascension is most balanced game mode right now
ascension has more strategy than SR ....? you must be silver ... right?
: So the fact someone feeds allows you to be homophobic ?
last time i checked i can be afraid of whatever or whoever i want yes :^)
: The OP is Gold 1 lol
well yeah i guess it doesn't happen there but could have been hitting up some normals or something
Diego03 (EUNE)
: I just got a 14 day ban for this
eh I got banned for 14 days for calling someone a %%%got that was running it down mid and telling our whole team to kill themselves, riots report system is a meme but if you misspell your cuss words you won't get banned.
Rendrex (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=nice table,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Qi7nH3G3,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2018-01-02T13:43:30.202+0000) > > I find your statement really idiotic, it&#x27;s not as evident anymore but back in the day there were champions that countered certain team comps hard (trundle vs a single tank, vayne vs many tanks, gp vs non aggressive laners, galio vs heavy magic damage teams, malphite vs triple ad etc.) and if any of these champions would actually have been viable to be picked into team comps they weren&#x27;t good against they would break the game, much like vayne is now. Vayne design is old and obnoxious with the usual excuse of 'requiring skill to pull off' I can't remember a meta where she used to be actually weak.
i member vayne sitting at a 43% win ratio in dia tbh famalam
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EIEih4YM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-02T08:57:04.084+0000) > > It&#x27;s funny. If Rioters didn&#x27;t want the boards to be mad at them, perhaps fixing the main issue rather than censorship would be more effective. I can understand blocking the CertainlyT posts because they tend to lack context or intelligence. If someone made an argumentative post saying a Rioter or Live Design should be fired, I think that post should be allowed. To contrary, if someone said X should be fired without any real context or substance, I completely agree that shouldn&#x27;t be allowed. I would put examples, but you get the idea. > > You aren&#x27;t fixing the issue by censoring people. If you truly wanted to foster communication, you need to have Rioters willing to talk about real issues within the game and you need to have a community that doesn&#x27;t hold a grudge because of shitty balance. The issue is Riot doesn&#x27;t listen to what the community says while also talking about irrelevant things. Example: Top lane is still bleeding post 7.24b, but Meddler is talking about buffing Yi and Tryndamere. That makes people mad. We dont want to censor people, just be constructive. Saying "fire this guy he's shit at designing" isn't very helpful. Providing constructive, well thought out feedback as to certain things you think could be improved upon in their work is fine. Just be respectful about it. You can have issues with the Rioters while still being mature with what you write. ("You" not necessarily meaning you-you but just as in anyone posting.)
when you repeat the same point for a year you usually get tired of explaining it every time, it's kind of like telling a child "stop throwing rocks at other kids they also have feelings and it's good to care for your peers" and when they keep doing it for another 100 times you start beating the shit out of them instead of explaining what they did wrong.
: I find that statement really idiotic. If some champions aren’t allowed to be meta then there is an issue with the game.
I find your statement really idiotic, it's not as evident anymore but back in the day there were champions that countered certain team comps hard (trundle vs a single tank, vayne vs many tanks, gp vs non aggressive laners, galio vs heavy magic damage teams, malphite vs triple ad etc.) and if any of these champions would actually have been viable to be picked into team comps they weren't good against they would break the game, much like vayne is now.
: The whole post is extremely cringe. He's trying to make it out like ADCs dont understand how relic shields work and actually yell at their supports for using it which is 100% complete bullshit. It's extremely cringe seeing all these "ADCs are big meanies!!!!!! :((((((((((((( but supports are victims and everyone should know how awesome we are!!!!!! :)))))))))" threads and comments. Like they expect that we dont actually play the game and know that supports probably get flamed the least. The whole is pretty is pretty pathetic and extremely cringey imo
i mean to be fair in bronze there are plenty of adcs who actually don't know how relic shield works though
: top 10 winrates top lane at plat + consist of 8 tanks, teemo, and kayle Support is also being dominated by tanks in the top 10. 7/10 which are tanks. With {{champion:44}} being the highest winrate champion in league of legends right now with a staggering 54+% winrate While at jungle the top champions consist of {{champion:102}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:113}} Not sure how this doesnt conclude, AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT, that we are in a tank meta.?> Every role where a tank can do well, (top, jg, sup) they are dominating.
shyvana, udyr and warwick are tanks btw hehexd
saltran (EUW)
: Dear Boards, which ADC dou you want to be meta?
The problem isn't that we don't actually like the adcs that are meta, the problem is that the whole role is broken as fuck so if something in it is meta it's extra, extra broken and shits on everything.
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