KingMack (NA)
: You're* - communication isn't needed in league. I climb more without it. It holds your team back when you can actively type. when you type to them, they type back, meaning they are spending time not playing. Pings are the same. They are only used to rage. Try muting, you might climb out of gold. I did.
> [{quoted}](name=KingMack,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=NehbVtqH,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-06-20T14:16:43.305+0000) > > You're* - communication isn't needed in league. I climb more without it. It holds your team back when you can actively type. when you type to them, they type back, meaning they are spending time not playing. Pings are the same. They are only used to rage. Try muting, you might climb out of gold. I did. in low elo yes its a problem but i peeked at master 200lp on a smurf and most of the time in low elo if you dont tell your team what to do they just walk in circles and have no idea how to set up seiges or obj controll.
: I just got perma banned is there no way for a different punishment?
i ask again is this really toxic becuase i dont see why after one game litterly 1 game after 3 months of not being toxic i get a permaban reading through all of the game and reviewing the game it self i feel like this is not toxic at all as compaired to what my team was saying to me and guess what none of them even got a warning or a ban because of this.
: League Of Legends Punishment System NEEDS A CHANGE!
i agree the system needs work i and dont agree with most of the BS they say i made a post and most of the comments where yeah you derserve to get banned without them having full context but apperantly because im perma banned im the one in the wrong.
KingMack (NA)
: Sorry for the ban. I was banned almost 3 years ago. Never had a single warning, chat restriction, low-priority que, or any other kind of punishment. I went straight from a highly honored player (was the old honor system) to permanently banned after 1 game where the bard banned my champion in champ select, told me to kill myself for trying to play Yi, and then stole my buff level 1 and followed me around the jng for the entirety of the 20 minutes until we could ff (was before 15 min unanimous rule). He said things, I said things, but his actions caused the entire thing. My account from then got banned and his is still untouched. I check it every now and then. But, whatever, I was silver then and now I'm plat 2 probably going to be diamond by end of the season (he's still silver, btw). I changed my chat scaling to 0, moved it off screen, disabled enemy emotes, and fullmute all pings, chat, and emotes at the beginning of every game and play the game how I see fit. This is not a disadvantage - ALL information from pings and chat is irrelevant. Chat simply isn't needed. But what about summoner and ult timing etc? Most people in my games range from p3 to diamond 2 and none of them ping summs or ults for me anyway, so I started muting about a year ago. Been steady climbing since. Just play like they have everything unless you see them use it yourself and you will make way less mistakes. When I watch streams, the chat is incredibly toxic and irrelevant for those high elo players. Go watch any challenger streamer or youtuber and pay attention to the chat. Nothing is said that is relevant, EVER. They only rage. Sorry you got banned. Riot needs to work on the automated system they have in place. My ban came down the week they implemented the automated system so I assumed it was over-tuned. They've improved it since then but I haven't received any kind of penalties or restrictions on my "new" account anyway. I say new, but it was a smurf I made in 2014 that I just focused on after the ban. I wasn't toxic then, I'm not toxic now. I had one bad game and Riot wrongfully punished me hard. Maybe this was the case for you, maybe it wasn't. Either way, I think Riot can improve and even profit from a new kind of ban system. Shit, I would have paid to get the account back even with reduced privileges like permanent chat restriction etc. I wish you well whether or not you decide to make a new account and return to us. I would understand either way. Good luck.
> [{quoted}](name=KingMack,realm=NA,application-id=GgNYATV4,discussion-id=NehbVtqH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-19T16:20:33.166+0000) > > Sorry for the ban. I was banned almost 3 years ago. Never had a single warning, chat restriction, low-priority que, or any other kind of punishment. I went straight from a highly honored player (was the old honor system) to permanently banned after 1 game where the bard banned my champion in champ select, told me to kill myself for trying to play Yi, and then stole my buff level 1 and followed me around the jng for the entirety of the 20 minutes until we could ff (was before 15 min unanimous rule). He said things, I said things, but his actions caused the entire thing. My account from then got banned and his is still untouched. I check it every now and then. > > But, whatever, I was silver then and now I'm plat 2 probably going to be diamond by end of the season (he's still silver, btw). I changed my chat scaling to 0, moved it off screen, disabled enemy emotes, and fullmute all pings, chat, and emotes at the beginning of every game and play the game how I see fit. This is not a disadvantage - ALL information from pings and chat is irrelevant. Chat simply isn't needed. > > But what about summoner and ult timing etc? Most people in my games range from p3 to diamond 2 and none of them ping summs or ults for me anyway, so I started muting about a year ago. Been steady climbing since. Just play like they have everything unless you see them use it yourself and you will make way less mistakes. When I watch streams, the chat is incredibly toxic and irrelevant for those high elo players. Go watch any challenger streamer or youtuber and pay attention to the chat. Nothing is said that is relevant, EVER. They only rage. > > Sorry you got banned. Riot needs to work on the automated system they have in place. My ban came down the week they implemented the automated system so I assumed it was over-tuned. They've improved it since then but I haven't received any kind of penalties or restrictions on my "new" account anyway. I say new, but it was a smurf I made in 2014 that I just focused on after the ban. I wasn't toxic then, I'm not toxic now. I had one bad game and Riot wrongfully punished me hard. Maybe this was the case for you, maybe it wasn't. Either way, I think Riot can improve and even profit from a new kind of ban system. Shit, I would have paid to get the account back even with reduced privileges like permanent chat restriction etc. > > I wish you well whether or not you decide to make a new account and return to us. I would understand either way. Good luck. sucks to hear that but the only reason that i cared was because this was my first account/ primary account but i guess that if a rioter doesnt help me ill never get my account back which i doubt they will. might take a break from lol until next season or i might move on to other games like dunkey did.
: Rage much?
> [{quoted}](name=GatekeeperTDS,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=juWKZFwd,comment-id=000100010000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T17:24:33.819+0000) > > Rage much? well im not being toxic now am i XD
: > if people really had a bad experience with me i would be on the front page or reddit ??? People had bad experiences with you. People reported you. You got punished accordingly. You can bury your head in the sand and ignore your surroundings all you want, but losing your account is a **you** problem. Try some introspection.
i feel like you guys have never played in EUW so you wouldnt understand also the main point is that i accept responsibility if you cared to read the post you would know that i was asking for a alternative but since you want to not use your eyes let me say this again. I KNOW WHY I GOT BANNED AND I DONT CARE I WANT TO KNOW IF I CAN DISPUTE IT AND IF YOU READ WHAT THE OTHER PEOPLE SAID IT WAS MOSTLY A NO. SO AGAIN GATEKEEPERTD IF YOU WANT TO READ THE WHOLE THING OVER AGAIN then maybe it wont go over your head same thing with you RUJITRA.
: > this account has a lot of memorys Unfortunately, if you've reached permanent ban level, you've given a lot of strangers some pretty bad memories of having to deal with you. There's no place for the type of toxicity that you display in games.
if people really had a bad experience with me i would be on the front page or reddit also most regions are toxic in differnet ways. For example in NA they just stop playing or walk in base, in korea they go afk if they loose at 15 mins and in EUW we flame each other but still play the game. so if truly wanted to be a toxic player i can create a smurf and greif high elo games all day like ratirl or apocalypse. also i have account in 4 different regions so trust me i know how the players are the only reason that i care is because this is my first account.
rujitra (NA)
: “Getting tilted” is not something “natural” that is uncontrollable. If you’re “getting tilted” playing League, you’re putting too much of your care into winning/losing instead of having fun. Regardless, getting tilted is not an excuse for being an ass. Over 80% of players never get a single chat restriction, much less a permanent ban.
"you’re putting too much of your care into winning/losing instead of having fun." so if i have more fun running it down mid every game i guess thats better then actually wanted to win
: > [{quoted}](name=outcastdiagram,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=juWKZFwd,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-06-19T16:03:50.512+0000)but is saying a bad word really worth a perma bann *A* bad word? No. But continuing to behave in that way after multiple warnings that that behavior isn't okay? Then we start to get into "yes" territory. At some point continually ignoring the expected rules of a venue gets you removed from said venue. >...when 80% of the league community flames. This is inaccurate. >lets take taarzan former rank 1 of na in most of his videos hes quite toxic but hes the rank 1 player which means that he is the best at what he does and if someone like me who wants to improve if i copy him and what he does i can be improve my game. "A popular player does X" is not an excuse to break the rules. > i just want this account to not be perma banned i dont mind if riot disables my ranked games or gives me something like a 3 month ban and disables my chat tldr is i just want to apeal and get my account back. Neither of those are punishments Riot uses. I'm afraid that the account is gone. >...also most of it was banter Banter is specifically "...talk or exchange remarks in a good-humored teasing way." It does not include insults to strangers who do not know your intent.
so i guess RIP this account such a shame since this account has a lot of memorys. its no wonder people hate riot for stuff like this especially when i can be playing the game and some idots decide they want to ruin the team aspect of a team based game. also its no suprise that people like ratirl and psz are super toxic and why riot even has a l9 group.
: permanent ban
i agree with you being toxic to people who initiate it on them selfs should not get you banned but then again i got perma banned for saying the f word to a bot lane duo that ran it down all game but apperantly im at fault because i wanted to win.
Julevi (EUW)
: Gatekeeping pretty much? How about my opinion, can I agree with Rujitra and is it valid then?
i understand what its my fault i just want to know why are they so strict on this account after i got banned once i climed back to honner level 3 and then got banned again so by that alone you can see im not toxic all the time but if i have a bad day and things people say get under my skin im the one that should be perma banned?
: Riot attempted long-term chat punishments in the past, and found that -- in an unacceptably high number of cases -- players simply reverted to other forms of toxic behavior that were harder to detect. As a result this policy is not longer in effect, and has been replaced by the current system. Whether you're trying to win or not, behaving poorly to other players is not permitted.
understandable but is saying a bad word really worth a perma bann when 80% of the league community flames. furthermore streamers and content creators in every video they put out most of them flame or get tilted and people watching those videos pick up on their behaviour and we the average viewer or people who want to get better at the game want to listen to what they have to say to improve. lets take taarzan former rank 1 of na in most of his videos hes quite toxic but hes the rank 1 player which means that he is the best at what he does and if someone like me who wants to improve if i copy him and what he does i can be improve my game. i just want this account to not be perma banned i dont mind if riot disables my ranked games or gives me something like a 3 month ban and disables my chat tldr is i just want to apeal and get my account back. also if the people who where in my games read this just to let you know nothing personal everything i said in game can stay in game also most of it was banter
: So the sad answer is nobody in this community at this point gives a shit about anybody else and already assumes you deserve anything that happens to you. Realistically what happened is your account had a history and even though you probably tried to change the system is so backwards that if you get reported in 5 games straight and didn't even do anything you're very likely to get banned. Most of these pieces of shit don't play very often or have slimy friends that they play with so they don't get reported or type as often. Solo players are much more likely to get banned. Remember you're pretty much renting these accounts so don't put any money you don't have to they can decide at any time what you did was toxic and I'm so tired of people pretending that most people in league games are upstanding citizens who do everything in their power to be positive when literally last game my bot lane told my mid to get aids and my mid told the bot his dad should have given his mom an abortion. This company is fucked and they're going to realize it in the years to come
i agree with you but because the banning system is so backwards players can get away with playing for the first 5 mins then grouping mid and inting or wintrading and the system will never suspect a thing because they quote on quote played the game.
rujitra (NA)
: Two wrongs do not make a right. If someone else is making the game less fun for you, you don’t get the right to “bring them down to your level”. You also are not the judge, jury, or executioner. You do not have the right to determine if they are even violating the rules or not - that right falls solely with Riot. The OP is completely at fault for his/her actions - as are each of us for our actions taken in game - regardless of what else is going on. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to troll, grief, or be toxic in chat. You are fully responsible for your actions.
hold up so your telling me that people like daddyperma can get away with being perma banned because they are in high elo and known for being toxic as well. but if i on the hand get perma banned there is no way for me to apeal becasue im not known in the community. also yes i do accept what i did was wrong but cut me some slack if 3 people on my team just run it down and i tell them stop and they dont im the one that gets punished for telling them to fucking stop. so what shall i do insted go afk so they can report me for that or shall i just walk in circles and open mid?
: > [{quoted}](name=outcastdiagram,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=juWKZFwd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-19T15:19:14.881+0000) > > i understand that but when 3 of the 4 players on your team flame you all game of corse your gonna get a bit tilted especially when im trying to win Should’ve just muted all and kept playing
i did but because i got tilted at 25mins of the 35 min game i got banned which is acceptable but i would rather that i get a chat ristriction insted of a perma ban as if riot decides to look at all of my chat loggs they can see that it mainly me getting tilted and typing back thats the issue. but insted i just get banned for being a euw player (and yes we are the most toxic region thats just fact) and them not fixing or correcting my behaviour they just say no more league for you like cut the bs if you want a player like me to reform just tell me that i type too much and take that away from me because if i actually play and win my games what differece does the chat make.
rujitra (NA)
: “Trying to win” means nothing if you’re making the game less fun for 4 other people.
i understand that but when 3 of the 4 players on your team flame you all game of corse your gonna get a bit tilted especially when im trying to win
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