: If you look at the PBE her AP ratios are already being looked at.
> [{quoted}](name=ShuyinTheX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jJ8uiYU7,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-03-23T13:07:59.685+0000) > > If you look at the PBE her AP ratios are already being looked at. not by much though
: That damage reduction requires you to build full AP AND you can't do anything during that damage reduction. So it's fine, if you could attack while invincible then there would be a real problem to bitch about.
she has good ap scaling on w + e + r so you will deal a lot of dmg while baiting enemy champs to blow their abilities on you so you can fuck them after that not to mention the cooldown of an AOE stupid hitbox stun that can be spammed every 5.5 seconds with .9 ap ratio LUL
: Fiora does it, i don’t see any reason why full AP irelia shouldnt (dumb build anyway)
fiora long cooldowns + short duration (0.75sec) irelia is way better
: It is hard. You are looking to get a product that costs money for free instead. It's not going to be given away freely.
: Im new and I have an hard time getting more then 20 champs!
yeah i hate the fact that you need to unlock champs in this game they should make all champs free
: it's almost as if you go full ap, you get killed in 0.5 sec once your W is down LUL
she has good ap scaling on w + e + r so you will deal a lot of dmg while baiting enemy champs to blow their abilities on you so you can fuck them after that not to mention the cooldown of an AOE stupid hitbox stun that can be spammed every 5.5 seconds with .9 ap ratio LUL
: and exactly how useful will full ap irelia actually be? how would this be (functionally) any different from alpha dodges, fizz e, or yasuo walls?
because fizz and yasuo aren't cancerous enough for the game to add more
: well at least she's not super mobile, with an aoe stun that's pretty utility in how to cast it.
she can oneshot minions at some point then she gets really mobile + her Q resets more with marks
Kaioko (NA)
: {{champion:114}} already exists dumb comment is dumb. Wait until it's actually released.
the duration of her W is way shorter than Irelia's W and Fiora's w has longer cooldowns
Rioter Comments
INTaliyah (EUW)
: Logged in just to answer this, and I expect you to actually listen and not cry and try to break all my arguments, mainly because I know what I'm talking about. I'm a Jayce OTP, mained him and basically one tricked him for 4 seasons now. Jayce is not unbeatable in laning phase, and he has insane counters in the top lane that completely dumpster him, so listen carefully, as this are the biggests issues that I face when I lane. 1- Abuse his mana costs. His mana costs are high and his mana regen sucks. Stand in between your minnions, and that way you eliminate the threat of an q-e combo, if the jayce still does it, it takes away 100-130 mana from him and pushes the lane practically to your tower, perfect to set up a freeze and w8 for jungle help. If jayce is low on mana, he is forced to go into hammer form, he looses the ranged form advantage in this case, and is a perfect target for your poke, if he engages on you, answer back, even if he uses e, once he uses e, he has to wait 20 seconds and you have the upper hand. If by any reason he changes to cannon because he is scared, he prolly has no mana and will either go back or stay in lane with low health-mana. At this point you already won, because Jayce players that are getting outlaned get very tilted and are likely to go deep for risky plays, where you can punish them. 2- Rush Ninja Tabi, and bramble vest if you are tanky, takes away so much pressure and in the long run dumspters him, as a huge deal of his poke are aa's. 3- His hammer form is risky, screw those extra 5-35 armor, jayce is not a tanky character, he explodes when he goes in hammer form, he has no sustain and no real defensive mobility asides from a 16-20 second cd knockback. 4- Counter picks screw him, as he gets snowballed upon insanely hard, if an irelia kills you in lane, your lane is over, with jayce this is more true than ever, and extends to practically your whole game. As a few counter picks i can name, Malphite (outpokes, outsustains and outscales him). Irelia ( Smart Irelias destroy Jayces, greedy Irelias get stomped by Jayces). Camille, same as malphite. Nunu, same as Malphite. Gnar, teamfighting god compared to jayce, and gets outscaled hard. 5- An even lane is a win, Jayce is designed to win lane, and extend his lead, take that away from him, and he is done. Now as a final point that I give you personally, stop being so negative and such a baby, Jayce thrives vs greedy and uncordinated players, because of how hard he punishes early mistakes. Jayce is one of the easiest champs to counter in the game, but people are too proud and always want to 1v1 and show off, and guess what, Jayce is designed to stomp players like that. Wanna win vs Jayce, be smart, and stop being such a crybaby. Have a good day.
you came here only to flame lol gtfo i don't need your comments
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=xGunna1,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bWvBLdmj,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-09T13:21:46.848+0000) > > mao and cho are MELEE he is ranged he can poke them so bad and he can rush black cleaver and shit on them anyway cho and mao out sustain jayce, they just heal up all if any of the damage he does to them
> [{quoted}](name=Call Me Steiner,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=bWvBLdmj,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-03-03T04:09:54.240+0000) > > cho and mao out sustain jayce, they just heal up all if any of the damage he does to them you mean they take like 100 dmg and heal for 20 ? is that great ? lol while he just AA them to death
: When the fed Ivern catches you trying to kill his friends
Ivern is so useless that you can't notice if he is fed or not because he has shitty dmg and shitty tankiness all he has is a basic stun and daisy that deals more damage than him
: the problem with "just lowering everyone's damage"
the game will never be balanced if you nerf dmg tanks will be good if u nerf tanks others will be op there is always op category
RIlakas (NA)
: I've been told to kill myself, and that women are disgusting human beings, and all this other stuff. But I make a joke and get banned. Great service, right? o3o
> [{quoted}](name=His Universe,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=977LE1fU,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-02-27T00:50:47.105+0000) > > I've been told to kill myself, and that women are disgusting human beings, and all this other stuff. But I make a joke and get banned. Great service, right? o3o i'd rather face someone that spam kill yourself all game than facing a feeder insulting shouldn't be bannable because there is a mute button but you can't stop a feeder from feeding riot don't ban feeders cuz they say they only play bad "kappa"
Abibyama (EUW)
: Locket changes on the PBE
all i want to know is about Zoe's Q buff
Rioter Comments
RIlakas (NA)
: Unfair Ban
why riot so salty hitler jokes are just jokes
: > [{quoted}](name=xGunna1,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=04c55jTz,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-26T20:18:52.960+0000) > > the problem is that certainlyT didn't designed all champs > > if he did the game will be balanced because weak and unfun to play champs like ashe and garen and sivir are the problem > > > for example yasuo can counter zoe or zoe can one shot yasuo if played correctly so both of them having fun playing the champs > > but playing stupid noob champion like ashe and garen not only make you not having fun to play them but also their kits are worse for skilled players Did you know that for almost 5 years, League's champs were relatively simple? You don't have skill just because you have more tools by default. You have skill when you can use your unique set of tools better than someone with a comparable, yet unique, set of tools.
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=04c55jTz,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-02-26T20:27:58.858+0000) > > Did you know that for almost 5 years, League's champs were relatively simple? > > You don't have skill just because you have more tools by default. You have skill when you can use your unique set of tools better than someone with a comparable, yet unique, set of tools. games evolve to the best not anything old is good
AmazoX (EUW)
: CertainlyT & Yasuo lore.
the problem is that certainlyT didn't designed all champs if he did the game will be balanced because weak and unfun to play champs like ashe and garen and sivir are the problem for example yasuo can counter zoe or zoe can one shot yasuo if played correctly so both of them having fun playing the champs but playing stupid noob champion like ashe and garen not only make you not having fun to play them but also their kits are worse for skilled players
: I can't recall a game where Garens Villain mechanic has made a difference
Rioter Comments
: You're already wasting time playing a videogame. Deal with it.
> [{quoted}](name=BestJhinUniverse,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MUKyb2jn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-26T12:22:35.019+0000) > > You're already wasting time playing a videogame. Deal with it. fun times are always worth it whether in video games or something else
: @Riot Make a different map for PVP
cool if they made a circle map and 6 lanes leads to the center and each lane has 2 people for max 12 players per game each lane has bosses and towers and different creeps and there are jungle between lanes to gank each others whoever kill the last inhib wins
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=PeachyPosterior,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XJglj5tX,comment-id=0006000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-02-26T02:49:47.136+0000) > > Her damage was amazing. Really. Every game with her I had the absolute highest damage, unless I accidentally fed. Her KDA was easily 10:1. Easily. > Maybe you didn't know how to play her right, but for those that did she was crazy strong. I hate to admit it because it was a lot of fun to play as, but it really just wasn't fair. Your anecdotes or performance doesnt make her broken, you can look up high elo stats on her and she wasnt broken by any metric. Not kda, damage, winrate, etc.
she was busted i was spamming her before the nerfs n normal games and had a lot of fun who can compete her ? veigar ? he has long cooldown to one shot so annie or syndra .. she had a long cooldown ult dmg on 4.3 seconds Q i was having fun playing her but it was so busted that i want riot to rework her abilities from the start i suggest replacing her ult with her E but her Ult doesn't go back but gets a reset to leap again in another direction if she AA the champ and her Q Dmg to champions is the same now but buffed against minions more her W has 30 to 22 secs and empowers her R (which is now her Sleep buble but with 70 seconds cooldown the empowered version can sleep three champs ) and Q (deals the same dmg before the nerfs) but her R now can sleep 3 champs at once (if they get caught in baron it's gg)
Sanngriðr (EUNE)
: You argued about Zed in a comment above. Zed can't survive more than 1 second in a teamfight with equal items. Only way he will survive is if he is 10-0 and people are afraid to touch him. The keystone is only good for divers and juggs because they wanna stay in the fight assasins slayers dont wanna stay in the fight they get oneshotted.
zed ultimate 20% of its dmg is converted to true dmg they should make true dmg only on AAs
: You forgot the part where it refreshes only for melee champs which is HUGE. No squishy is gonna wanna stay in a fight for more than 4 seconds.
in league teamfights take like 4 or 6 secs to finish 4 seconds is enough zed is = melee but assassin
: Zoe is supposed to be a hard to master champion. To have a 50% win rate off the hop IS a bit extreme. She was also very unfun to play against in lane. They gutted her this patch, unfortunatly, but they are already looking to add some power back into her kit. This way she can be fun to play as and fair to play against.
what is hard in this champ ? QQR combo spam all game not that hard
Kukiel (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Vaermina,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PsnRBw9g,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2018-02-23T12:55:01.207+0000) > > If you can counter pick then {{champion:80}} hard counters him Indeed! When I have the chance to counter pick, I pick Pantheon, so good! However, my former question was meant for the times I pick before them. Loving the feedback, thank you!
blind pick jayce he has 0 counters
Rioter Comments
: >Don't play Melee champs >So play Akali top {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
i meant by default unless if there is a counter pick akali is so busted in solo q if you play safe until lvl6
: Quinn Changes Coming Soon - Strike from the Sky!
so you consider 7 ad late game is actually a buff ? lul you need to change her Kit she is useless in late game has short range and when she get closer she get blown up easily if Riot made me in your place in balance team i would buff her range and buf her Q animation speed and give true sight on her W and last 4 seconds and her R skystrike deals 300% more dmg to minions
: huh wtf, like i know skill shots are weird in LoL in a way that they're 'above' the terrain so I think Kayle is slightly below where she looks, and the skillshot is slightly above (i think), but how narrow is Zoe E that doesn't look right
next time when i have this problem i will clip it here
Kukiel (NA)
: How to lane against Teemo as melee champion?
don't play melee champs in top by default in solo q .. junglers don't care about you so play something like jayce or gnar.. or main akali top because she is op teemo can be countered by olaf if you throw the axe on him and follow him to kill him early very easy
xGunna1 (EUW)
: this found on youtube something like that happened to me a lot
xGunna1 (EUW)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2BibF1pSLs
this found on youtube something like that happened to me a lot
: Any evidence at which we can look?
Rioter Comments
: You could say that about Zoe's E, except zoe's E is quite fast. And stuns you. Which can set up for an instant kill, or a ton of damage. And utilizing her ult, She doesn't even need to risk anything if she wants to kill you. Meanwhile Kai'sa's W moves at about the speed of an Ashe E, and when she hits it she gets to teleport to you. And puts herself at a lot more risk then a Zoe would.
that's why only good kai sa players will choose the weakest targets to snipe
iiSey (NA)
: Kai'sa could be broken. (Not surely, we'll wait for it on PBE)
i think u made her a bit balanced the actual champ will be surprisingly OP and broken based on the direction riot is taking for new champs/reworks
Samdei (NA)
: Not so subtle Scarlett Johansson crush...
Kaisa has a pig nose they should fix it
: I could agree if her W had the speed of Jhin's W, but I believe it even slower than Morgana's Q, so if you have vision on her casting it, you should really have no trouble dodging that!
it's not that slow though especially if you hit someone behind walls like zoe's E
: She needs a plasma stack to dash though, not like Akali I believe
: Gratz on making a 2nd vayne that is actually better than vayne.
long a$$ dash (teleport?) from fog of war : check
: You forgot to mention that she can auto attack you. Literally no other champ can do that.
she can teleport from mile away to you lol is this akali 2.0 ?
: Kai'Sa isn't even on PBE yet and all of the QQ here is unreal
Well you can know how overloaded this champ just by looking at her revealed abilities
: Ehh. Im feeling the opposite. Her Q locks her in place for a second in which time you could easily pop. Her W is slow. Could be dodged from a mile away and from the looks of it requires ap to make really effective so one or the other until shown otherwise. Her E is nice in the sense you could dodge shit or escape/surprise people but you cant auto which is good as we already have champs that can auto from stealth and thats dumb. Atleast riot is realizing that being able to attack from stealth is dumb and as such did that to her E. Her E feels very anti adc as she has to wait to auto so she isnt doing her job. Her R really doesnt make sense for an adc as she ults IN, getting up close and personal with whoever just to suicide into the enemy team. TLDR: She seems like an ranged {{champion:121}} with {{champion:67}} W. I dont think she will be good on release. Infact I would almost say she will be hot garbage as people complain her ratios are garbage cause riot didnt want a busted champion and then buff her within the first 3 weeks and then nerf her after she sees competitive play showing what strengths she has if she has any.
yeah we need to see her numbers and cooldowns first i hope her R is not like Akali's
xGunna1 (EUW)
: well yasuo is so weak vs nasus in top akali also shits on yasuo
teemo is annoying + jayce and panth.. the worst is jayce so make sure to ban him or play ranged champ in top lane
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